sorry smil, my last post was abreviated as my computer time at the library was in it's last seconds.
ahh...
semantics
i know you do have experience. "you don't have my experience" is not tendered in the sense that i am expeienced and you are not but rather that you do not have my particular experience. i certainly don't have bragging rights on esmb. i'm a CLIV HGDS, arc straightrazor release who spent a little less than two years on staff and his board is host to CLVIII OTVII's who spent more than a quarter century in the sea org. my - our - old friend mystic did nearly thirty thousand hours of auditing AND is the person who originated the concept of bypassed charge. but he today utterly renounces all things ron. as do many of these others whose experience is far beyond my own. they have far more experience but they do not have mine.
How is Mystic these days? I'm missing his presence. I like him.
i think the key difference is that i developed a personal integrity before which i would not compromise and mystic and others are in hindsight so appalled at, for instance, accepting the planet helatrobus as certainty and even worse must repent of their part in the various abuses.
Maybe that's right, maybe it isn't - it would need to come from them.
now to expand briefly on "yes and long story", it is true that i believe his general condition was enhanced by what i did drawing on my auditor training and there is an intangible aspect to this that allows your challenge that i cannot properly claim to know rather than believe to stand. honest and correct dialogue recognizes the challenge stands but not only am i personally certain of the effect on general condition there were specific acts and results were as tangible to me as fastening two pieces of an erector set together with a nut and a bolt
