What does "stuck in an incident" mean?

MissWog

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I was reporting tweets about #stafflife and got a msg via twitter to stop.. The person said..

#stafflife Misswog, stop reporting all my tweets. You are clearly stuck in an electronic incident.

what does that mean? I will stop reporting their tweets, I understood that part :)
 

Dulloldfart

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In Scienoworld, it means you are dramatizing (acting out) a long-ago incident, a traumatic one with "electronic" force-fields say. So the person you see in front of you is not Bonnie Goodgirl, Scientology staff member, but Fangs McKracken about to skewer you with a red-hot lance, and your comments about Bonnie's irrational actions can be ignored as you are really (in your addled mind) talking to Fangs and not Bonnie.

Paul
 

MrNobody

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In Scienoworld, it means you are dramatizing (acting out) a long-ago incident, a traumatic one with "electronic" force-fields say. So the person you see in front of you is not Bonnie Goodgirl, Scientology staff member, but Fangs McKracken about to skewer you with a red-hot lance, and your comments about Bonnie's irrational actions can be ignored as you are really (in your addled mind) talking to Fangs and not Bonnie.

Paul

In other words: "I'm a [STRIKE]fully[/STRIKE] highly trained Ron-Bot and I'm pouring all my deerly-paid TRs all over MissWog, which will certainly shut her up." :duh:
 

Gadfly

Crusader
As usual, Hubbard turns somewhat true ideas and behaviors into non-metaphorical realities.

On the one hand, yes, some or many people DO suffer from some degree of stuck attention, or fixated attention, often on what are viewed as traumatic experiences.

I much prefer the models that describe such stuck attention as residing in the "subconscious mind" - where it can and does cause difficulties to the person.

It is a METAPHOR to say a person is "stuck in an incident", but as is so common in Scientology, these metaphors are viewed as detailed facts. If a person were actually "stuck" in an "incident", fully, he or she would see and experience ONLY that, and have no contact with current physical reality. So, almost nobody is "stuck in an incident", except for possibly a drooling psychotic curled up in a ball in some corner of a psychiatric ward, imagining some fantasy or phantasm as reality.

Obviously, past events can and do very much cause adverse effects on people. These past "incidents" don't actually "cause" the problem though - the person causes and perpetuates the problem by managing to submerge the relevant feelings and thoughts into his or her subconscious. There is a factor of "being stuck". Modern therapies deal with this all of the time.

Some studies into cancer cases have shown that certain types of cancer (for instance bladder cancer), have a "cause" rooted in being or feeling "stuck" and unable to move out of some situation, event or set of circumstances. It does "sound like" aspects of Scientology, but it is surely NOT at all.

The solution in many therapies involves going over the submerged information, but NOT to "erase it". The aim is to release pent up emotions, and to get the person to LOOK IT ALL OVER consciously, in whatever way aids in resolving the issue and bringing all thoughts, feelings and decisions into conscious awareness. In the end, many modern therapies hinge on coming to ACCEPT and FORGIVE all involved - mostly YOURSELF! Scientology's approach in all of this is largely useless. Why?

Because, the ideas and practices of acceptance and forgiveness (and LOVE) are non-existent in Scientology. Those very real PRACTICES never enter into any form of Scientology therapy.

The acts of acceptance and forgiveness come from the spirit or heart. The power to heal from past traumas resides in PRACTICING these - on self and others. With all Hubbard's endless anal-retentive yapping about the "nature of the spirit", he sure fucked up BIG TIME by leaving out these key basic factors of acceptance, forgiveness and love. Whether he did so knowingly is debatable.

Nobody can ever be glad that his daughter was raped or her brother died of a drug overdose, BUT one CAN come to accept and forgive. THOSE are the true powers involved in healing and growth. One doesn't ERASE incidents, as is pretended to be done in Scientology. In fact, as I learned from personal experience, this act of "erasing" with superficial "repetitive procedures" often BURIES the pain and trauma DEEPER into the subconscious, where it can quietly wait for years to rear its ugly face. Erasure is a DUMB idea. A much better idea is to bring all information to consciousness, by careful viewing and consideration, practice the acts of acceptance and forgiveness, assimilate the information that now takes on new feeling of far less meaning and significance, and MOVE ON.

Note: Moving on and forward means NOT "being stuck".

The concept of being stuck is real (has actual correlations to various mental and physical conditions) - Hubbard's way of defining and describing it, and of dealing with it, was pretentious, simplistic and juvenile. But some people are attracted to such nonsense . . . . :confused2:
 
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Two handy references to the idea of "stuck in an incident":

1) History of Man: Hubbard's 1950s book that lists the "incidents" that happened over the past 76 trillion years that you need to audit out (erase). In fact the original title to the book was "What To Audit".

2) The infamous video made by our good friend Axiom142 here on this site... (in first minute OT VIII George has much to say about the critic's "incident"). LOL


[video=youtube;6KMa60UsIWo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KMa60UsIWo[/video]



Here are some of the "incidents" that you should be concerned about. . .

Hubbard stressed that these incidents are not limited to the list below: for example, he notes "there are many steps and incidents between the Birds and the Sloth". The list simply arbitrarily names some incidents that Hubbard found particularly worth commenting on:


  • The Atom, "complete with electronic rings". According to Hubbard, "There seems to be a 'hole in space' immediately ahead of the Atom", which generates a particular state of mind in a person.

  • The Cosmic Impact, based on the premise that "As physicists tell us, cosmic rays enter the body in large numbers and occasionally explode in the body. Very early on the track the impact of a cosmic ray and its explosion is very destructive to the existing organism."

  • The Photon Converter, essentially an early photosynthetic organism such as an alga or plankton. Hubbard deemed the Photon Converter to be responsible for fears of "light and dark, the storms of the sea, the fight to keep from rolling into the surf."

  • The Helper, an incident of mitosis (cell division) in some unnamed organism which was "a confusing area for the [genetic entity] which therein has much cause for misidentification."

  • The Clam, one of a number of incidents between The Helper and The Weeper. The others include seaweed and "jellyfish incidents [which] are quite remarkable for their occasional aberrative force". Encounters between jellyfish and cave walls are held to be responsible for the emergence of "a shell as in the clam." The Clam itself is "a deadly incident" involving a "scalloped-lip, white- shelled creature" which suffered from a severe split personality or "double-hinge problem. One hinge wishes to stay open, the other tries to close, thus conflict occurs." According to Hubbard, the hinges of the Clam "later become the hinges of the human jaw" and the Clam's method of reproducing usingspores is said to be responsible for toothache. In one of the most famous passages of the book, Hubbard advised that
Should you desire to confirm this, describe to some uninitiated person the death of a clam without saying what you are describing. "Can you imagine a clam sitting on the beach, opening and closing its shell very rapidly?" (Make a motion with your thumb and forefinger of a rapid opening and closing). The victim may grip his jaws with his hand and feel quite upset. He may even have to have a few teeth pulled: At the very least he will argue as to whether or not the shell stays open at the end or closed. And he will, with no hint of the death aspect of it, talk about the "poor clam" and he will feel quite sad emotionally.
He goes on to warn the reader that "your discussion of these incidents with the uninitiated in Scientology can cause havoc. Should you describe the "clam" to someone, you may restimulate it in him to the extent of causing severe jaw pain. One such victim, after hearing about a clam death, could not use his jaws for three days."
  • The Weeper/Boohoo incident deals with a mollusk that rolled in the surf for half a million years, pumping sea water out of its shell as it breathed, hence its name. Weepers had 'trillions of misadventures', prominent among them the anxiety caused by trying to gulp air before being swamped by the next wave. 'The inability of a pre-clear to cry,' Hubbard explained, 'is partly a hang-up in the Weeper. He is about to be hit by a wave, has his eyes full of sand or is frightened about opening his shell because he may be hit.'

  • The Volcanoes occurred at several points - violent volcanic eruptions which choked the genetic entity's host organism with choking sulphurous smoke. Hubbard suggests that these eruptions hastened the progress of evolution, "for there is a lack of real reason why this evolution should not be continuing on even today." Volcanoes, believed by Scientologists to be used by Xenu to murder billions of thetans, are a prominent symbol frequently used in Scientology.

  • Being Eaten is the next class of incident on the list. "In that so many fish and animals were equipped with so many teeth, it is inevitable that somebody somewhere on the track would have been eaten." And so it is. for there are a great many "being eaten" engrams. Technique 80 is recommended by Hubbard for dealing with these problems. "Few auditors, in the absence of Technique 80, have been able to run these incidents".

  • The Birds were a traumatic incident caused when "birds of a very crude construction developed a taste for clams". As a result of bird attacks on ancestral clams, modern man suffers from "falling sensations, indecision and other troubles."

  • "The Sloth", says Hubbard, "is a chain of incidents and misadventures" covered under this general name. According to Hubbard, the Sloth was "slow and easily attacked and he had bad times falling out of trees when hit by snakes, falling off cliffs when attacked by baboons."

  • The Ape is the name of the next incident, by which time the genetic entity was inhabiting an "agile and intelligent" host. "The Ape is usually an area of overt acts against animals and incidents of protecting young". (pg.54)

  • The Piltdown Man was "a creature not an ape, yet not entirely a Man." It was not "the real Piltdown Man" but had some similarities. It resulted in a variety of psychological conditions in modern humans, including "obsessions about biting efforts to hide the mouth and early familial troubles." The Piltdown Man was characterized by "freakish acts of strange 'logic,' of demonstrating dangerous on one's fellows, of eating one's wife and other somewhat illogical activities. The PILTDOWN teeth were ENORMOUS and he was quite careless as to whom and what he bit and often very much surprised at the resulting damage."

  • The Caveman was the final stage of evolution prior to modern man. The genetic entity's host still had marital trouble, though not quite on the level of "eating one's wife". Instead, "one crippled one's woman to keep her [at home] or poisoned one's man for having kept her there." Memories of this era were responsible, in Hubbard's view, for "any condition of interpersonal relationships" such as "jealousy and overt acts around it, strangling, smashing in heads with rocks, quarrels about homes, tribal rebukes, pack instincts."
Hubbard also described numerous incidents of "implanting" by hostile alien races which caused traumatic memories in the thetan. This formed part of what soon became an elaborate cosmology of alien civilizations, interstellar dictators and brainwashing implants - collectively, matters that Hubbard described as "Space opera". It is important to realise that the being at one point of his existence could be giving the incident, and at another, receiving it.

  • The "Halver" gave sexual compulsion mixed up with religious compulsion.

  • Facsimile One "when audited out of a long series of people, was found to eradicate such things as asthma, sinus trouble, chronic chills and a host of other ills".[SUP][6][/SUP] Facsimile One is described as closing down the Pineal gland which Descartes described as the "principle seat of the soul"[SUP][7][/SUP] and is also associated with the third eye in Hinduism.


And don't forget to sign up for auditing on the "GORILLA GOALS IMPLANTS". That'll come in handy on your CV when seeking an executive position at a major company. They'll put your resume on the top of the heap when they realize that you won't be dramatizing your incident that happened 319 quadrillion years ago. LOL.

Feeling masochistic? Here ya go. . .

Before Earth and Before MEST "There is a Before Earth and a Before MEST Universe in all banks. The incidents are not dissimilar. They consist of the preclear being summoned before a council, being frowned down, being sent elsewhere than where he was.... the council's intent is to reduce the person downscale in order to get a more obedient colonist." (A History of Man, 1988 edition, pg. 107)

Body Builder Incident[edit] The Body Builder Incident originally took place around fifty million years ago and variants of it are said by Hubbard to have recurred often on the "whole track". The thetan was put into a special field which forced him to fight with his own "attention units" and build a MEST body from them. (A History of Man, 1988 edition, pg. 114)

Bodies in pawn Bodies in pawn result from an ancient "very gruesome experience" in which:

a fellow is grabbed, hypnotized, shoved into an electronic field, and then told he is somewhere else. And so he departs—most of him—and goes to the new location while still being under control of the implanters. He picks up a MEST [physical] body in the new location and starts living a life there, while still having a living body somewhere else. The implanters can keep his original body alive indefinitely, and control the thetan through it. If the thetan tries to flee, the hypnotizers simply cause pain to the original body, still alive in a vat of fluid, and he is immediately recalled. That's a BODY IN PAWN. It's a second body you may have, living somewhere else, right in present time. But the second body is not under YOUR direct control.
(Source magazine #105, pg.39, 1997; see also Hubbard, Research and Discovery Series vol. 10)


They can apparently cause major problems for people undergoing medical operations, as "pain, an anaesthetic or a serious accident cause him to change to the other area with a shocking impact on the other body. The other body quite commonly dies or is deranged by the sudden impact." This gives the patient a repressed feeling of having died and leaves him "very, very badly disturbed." (Scientology: A History of Man)


Fly Trap (Bubble Gum Incident)
The Bubble Gum Incident was an important early incident "where you are hit with a motion and finally develop an obsession about motion". It was the first incident on the "whole track" which included words.[SUP][2][/SUP]
Hubbard openly acknowledged the silly sound of the name he chose to give this incident, sarcastically noting "I wish you to carefully note these very technical terms like bubble gum", to which the audience laughs heartily.[SUP][3]
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In his book A History of Man, Hubbard referred to the Bubble Gum Incident as "The Fly Trap": "Very, very early on the track, a long time before the present populace came into being, there was a theta trap called the Fly Trap. It was of a gummy material... also called the 'Bubble Gum' incident, because every time a thetan pushes against it, it pushes back and it finally gives him an obsession about motion." (1988 edition, pg. 116)

Coffee Grinder[edit][/h]Hubbard gave the name "The Coffee Grinder" to the MEST aspect of the Fourth Invader Force's Fac One, which he termed "an outright control mechanism, invented to cut down rebel raids on invader installations". It was "originally laid down in this galaxy about one million years ago", says Hubbard, and consists of "a two-handled, portable machine which, when turned, emits a heavy push-pull electronic wave in a series of stuttering 'baps'."
"The invader gratuitously left these machines around for the yokels. Believing that the treatment was vital to get to heaven or some such thing, the yokels practiced on each other, found new victims and generally spread the implant around." (A History of Man, 1988 edition, pg. 105-107)

Ice Cube Incident[edit][/h]A Xenu-like story in which alien invaders in flying saucers "plant" living entities. Says Hubbard in A History of Man, "Here is an intriguing incident which, if your preclear demands, should be audited. This is evidently a method of transportation of beings to a new area. The being is packed in ice, is taken to the new area and is usually dumped in the ocean. Your preclear, if he has this one in restimulation, has very cold hands and feet chronically."
Hubbard also notes: "The new crew in the area is later quite surprised to find that their planted beings, so carefully dumped in the sea from a saucer, are being picked up between lives and given "treatment" by an old, established invader whose methods of political control are long since established." (1988 edition, pg. 109)
Jack-in-the-Box[edit][/h]According to Hubbard, "here we have an invader trick, a method of trapping thetans." The alien invaders trick the thetans into gathering an endless loop of facsimile pictures and confusing themselves, ultimately ending in an explosion. Hubbard warns auditors, "You will find a preclear with this in restimulation to be very curious about cereal boxes which have pictures of cereal boxes which have pictures of cereal boxes." (A History of Man, 1988 edition, pg. 98-99)

OT III Incidents in the material for Operating Thetan level III and are audited on that level.

Incident I Incident I is set four quadrillion[SUP][4][/SUP] years ago and provides a cosmological explanation of the origin of all universes. The unsuspecting thetan was subjected to a loud snapping noise followed by a flood of luminescence, then saw a chariot followed by a trumpeting cherub. After a loud set of snaps, the thetan was overwhelmed by darkness. This is described as the implant opening the gateway to this universe, meaning that these traumatic memories are what separates thetans from their static (natural, godlike) state. The incident is described in Operating Thetan level III (OT III), written in 1967.

R6 Implants (Incident II) The R6 Implants were the work of the Galactic Confederacy's tyrannical leader, Xenu, 75 million years ago. According to Hubbard, Xenu blew up his billions[SUP][5][/SUP] of captured subjects during Incident II by dropping them into volcanoes and then attacking them with nuclear weapons.[SUP][6][/SUP] The subjects were also forced to watch a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for thirty-six days. This implanted pictures "contain[ing] God, the Devil, Angels, space opera, theaters, helicopters, a constant spinning, a spinning dancer, trains and various scenes very like modern England."[SUP][7][/SUP]

Routine 3N Incidents Aircraft Door Goals The Aircraft Door Goals were implanted between 315 trillion[SUP][1][/SUP] years ago and 216 trillion[SUP][1][/SUP] years ago aboard the fuselage of an aircraft, with the thetan held motionless in front of the aircraft door. Hubbard writes that "the goal items were laid in with explosions". The specific goals given in this implant were variants of the command "to create." ("Routine 3N: Line Plots", HCOB 14 July 1963)

Bear Goals
The Bear Goals were very similar to the Gorilla Goals (see below) with the same set of goals, except that "instead of a mechanical gorilla a mechanical or live bear was used, and the motion was even more violent." They were implanted by "a group called, I think, "The Brothers of the Bear" and were the ancestors of the Hoipolloi." ("Routine 3N: Line Plots", HCOB 14 July 1963)

Gorilla Goals

A black
gorilla was said byHubbard to have been used by the Hoipolloi to implant the Gorilla Goals.

According to Scientology, the Gorilla Goals were a series of implants created by invaders from Helatrobus "between about 319 trillion[SUP][1][/SUP] years ago to about 256 trillion trillion[SUP][8][/SUP] years ago".

They were
given in an amusement park with a single tunnel, a roller coaster and a Ferris wheel ... The symbol of a Gorilla was always present in the place the goal was given. Sometimes a large gorilla, black, was seen elsewhere than the park. A mechanical or a live gorilla was always seen in the park.
This activity was conducted by the Hoipolloi, a group of operators in meat body societies. They were typical carnival people. They let out concessions for these implant "Amusement Parks." A pink-striped white shirt with sleeve garters was the uniform of the Hoipolloi. Such a figure often rode on the roller coaster cars. Monkeys were also used on the cars. Elephants sometimes formed part of the equipment.

("Routine 3N: Line Plots", HCOB 14 July 1963)

The Hoipolloi used "fantastic motion" as well as "blasts of raw electricity and explosions" to brainwash the thetans into accepting the Gorilla Goals. The goals themselves were a series of simple tasks intended to trick the thetans into limiting their inherent abilities, with the goals including "To End", "To be Dead", "To be Asleep", "To be Solid", "To be Sexual" and so on.


Invisible Picture Goals[edit][/h]The Invisible Picture Goals were implanted by an early race of alien implanters some time between "110,000 trillion trillion[SUP][8][/SUP] years ago or earlier to 390 trillion trillion[SUP][8][/SUP] years ago". They comprised brainwashing of captive thetans by showing them pictures of diametrically opposed goals such as "Wake, Never Wake, Sleep, Never Sleep", as well as invisible pictures to confuse the thetan. The other pictures would "consist usually of a scene of a cave, a railway, an airplane, a view of a sun and planets".[SUP][9][/SUP]

Train Goals Devised by the Marcabians and implemented between "hundreds of years ago to hundreds of thousands of years ago", the Train Goals were a series of implants given in a huge train station. The thetan was put into "a railway carriage quite like a British railway coach with compartments" and subjected to a barrage of "white energy". During the implant sequence:

a face may come up and say "You still here? Get out. Get off this train. We hate you." And from the speakers "This happened to you yesterday, tomorrow, now. This is your departure point, keep coming back. You'll be meeting all your friends here. When you're killed and dead keep coming back. You haven't a chance to get away. You've got to report in. This happened to you days ago, weeks ago, years ago. You don't know when this happened to you. We hate you. Get out. Don't ever come back."
[SUP][10][/SUP]

Black Thetan Goals The Black Thetan Goals, also known as the Glade Implants, were implanted between "390 trillion trillion[SUP][8][/SUP] years to 370 trillion trillion[SUP][8][/SUP] years ago". According to Hubbard, they were "in a glade surrounded by the stone heads of "black thetans" who spat white energy at the trapped thetan". The goals included such things as "To End, To be Dead, To be Asleep" and so on.

Heaven Implants
The Heaven Implants were given "43,891,832,611,177 years, 344 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds from 10:02½ P.M. Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963." They comprised two series of views of Heaven, the first of which was quite positive: Hubbard compares Heaven to "Busch Gardens in Pasadena". In the second series, Heaven had become a lot shabbier:

The place is shabby. The vegetation is gone. The pillars are scruffy. The saints have vanished. So have the Angels. A sign on one (the left as you "enter") says "This is Heaven". The right has a sign "Hell" with an arrow and inside the grounds one can see the excavations like archaeological diggings with raw terraces, that lead to "Hell".


Hubbard reported that he had encountered no "devils or satans". Heaven was, however, not quite as conventionally depicted, and took the form of a town which "consisted of a trolley bus, some building fronts, sidewalks, train tracks, a boarding house, a bistro in a basement where there is a 'bulletin board' well lighted, and a BANK BUILDING." Hubbard described how the second series of Heaven implants depicts:

a passenger getting on the trolley bus, a "workman" halfway down the first stairs of To Forget "eating lunch" and in To Be in Heaven a gardener or electrician adjusting an implant box behind a hedge and periodically leaping up and screaming.
("Heaven", HCOB May 11, 1963)

After being ridiculed in the Anderson Report (an Australian public inquiry into Scientology), this bulletin was withdrawn from circulation.

Helatrobus Implants These were implanted by the inhabitants of the planet Helatrobus, some "382 trillion[SUP][1][/SUP] years ago to 52 trillion[SUP][1][/SUP] years ago". The Helatrobans were motivated by a fear of free thetans and sought to restrain them by capturing and brainwashing thetans in order to weaken them. In a series of lectures, Hubbard goes into some detail about how this was done:
Planets were surrounded suddenly by radioactive cloud masses. And very often a long time before the planet came under attack from these implant people, waves of radioactive clouds, Magellanic clouds, black and gray, would sweep over and engulf the planet, and it would be living in an atmosphere of radioactivity, which was highly antipathetic to the living beings, bodies, plants, anything else that was on this planet. And so planetary systems would become engulfed in radioactive masses, gray and black. And the earmarks of such a planetary action was gray and black – gray towering masses of clouds. These Magellanic clouds would not otherwise have come anywhere near a planetary system.
("State of OT")


When a planet had been engulfed, the Helatrobans would attack it with "little orange-colored bombs that would talk" and the clouds themselves would talk: "And here you'd have a gray cloud going by and it'd be saying, 'Hark! Hark! Hark!' you see? 'Watch out! Look out! Who's there? Who's that?'"

Hapless people on the planet's surface would be kidnapped using a small capsule "placed at will in space. It shot out a large bubble, the being would grab at the bubble or strike at it and be sucked at once into the capsule. Then the capsule would be retracted into an aircraft." A victim would then be implanted for up to six months and the Helatrobans would "fix him on a post in a big bunch of stuff ... put him on a post and wobbled him around and ran him through this implant of goals on a little monowheel. Little monowheel pole trap. And it had the effigy of a body on it." ("State of OT")

Obscene Dog Incident In the "Assists" lecture of October 3, 1968, Hubbard described a surreal cosmological event said to take place shortly after Incident I (the creation of the universe): "There's the incident called "The Obscene Dog" with its just a little bit later than Incident One. And sometimes actually by running it, why you can get the PC into Incident One. The Obscene Dog was a sort of a brass dog in a sitting position and anybody who got around to the front of the dog got caught in some electronic current and passed through the dog to the dogs rear end and spat out. Thetans didn't like this."[SUP][11][/SUP]


Any other questions on how otherwise normal people who became Scientologists went insane? LOL
 

Lermanet_com

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I was reporting tweets about #stafflife and got a msg via twitter to stop.. The person said..

#stafflife Misswog, stop reporting all my tweets. You are clearly stuck in an electronic incident.

what does that mean? I will stop reporting their tweets, I understood that part :)

It is psychological warfare disguised as "tech" to help people.
Scientologists emulate a psychopathic personality - the type of ilk that holds no responsibility for their own actions, blaming everything upon others.
Projecting their own situation upon others.
You sometimes see it in drug addled teenagers...

$cientologists are the ones stuck in the incident...

A trance not of their own making contrived by a psychopath to use them like cattle.
 
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Knows

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I was reporting tweets about #stafflife and got a msg via twitter to stop.. The person said..

#stafflife Misswog, stop reporting all my tweets. You are clearly stuck in an electronic incident.

what does that mean? I will stop reporting their tweets, I understood that part :)

When a Scientologist tells you that you are "stuck in an electronic incident" - it means that they don't know what else to say - so they blurt out these Blubbardism's.

It is part of the justification of their overt acts - "being a Scientologist". The truth is that they are actually stuck in an incident - the "Scientology Incident"!!:omg:

It will contribute to a huge CRINGE when they get out and see the truth!!

Keep posting MissWog - it helps!! :yes:
 

Operating DB

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I was reporting tweets about #stafflife and got a msg via twitter to stop.. The person said..

#stafflife Misswog, stop reporting all my tweets. You are clearly stuck in an electronic incident.

what does that mean? I will stop reporting their tweets, I understood that part :)

Thank you MissWog for starting my day off with a big guffawing laugh.
Those scientologosits are one funny bunch of comedians! Sadly they don't know how hilarious they are.

I attended an LGBT ComedyFest in Detroit last night and during her routine, the first comedian, Julie Goldman, made a joke about scientologists. It was obvious the crowd knew what she was talking about as they all laughed their asses off.

Scientology is the laughing stock of the world.
 

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The entire concept of "INCIDENTS" (Xenu, Gorilla Goal Implants, et al) is one of my favorite examples of the Hubbard Law of Commotion.

Hubbard, while stating emphatically that an auditor "must never evaluate for the PC", wrote sacred scripture that simultaneously lists out a vast number of INCIDENTS that must be audited out on that PC. These are not minor things on "The Bridge to OT"--they comprise the essential core of Grade VI, the Clearing Course, OT II, OT III, OT IV, OT V, OT VI and OT VII.

And, how does the PC find out about these INCIDENTS?

ANSWER: Evaluation.
 
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The entire concept of "INCIDENTS" (Xenu, Gorilla Goal Implants, et al) is one of my favorite examples of the Hubbard Law of Commotion.

Hubbard, while stating emphatically that an auditor "must never evaluate for the PC", the sacred scripture of Scientology simultaneously lists out a vast number of INCIDENTS that must be audited out on that PC. These are not minor things on "The Bridge to OT"--they comprise the essential core of Grade VI, the Clearing Course, OT II, OT III, OT IV, OT V, OT VI and OT VII.

And, how does the PC find out about these INCIDENTS?

ANSWER: Evaluation.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

So very true. This "covert evaluation", which occurs at every step of Scientology indoctrination, forces every Scientology member into a cookie-cutter paradigm of "what is true for them". Hubbard's entire system of Scientology foists a HUGE detailed content of mental events onto each member. What is interesting, is that a person can imagine just about anything to be true (even when it is not). Hubbard KNEW that, and he used that fact to manipulate and trap the followers by getting them to AGREE with his convoluted mental/spiritual paradigm.
 

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The description given here are accurate and you will find them in Scientology materials but I found that there are incidents in Scientology you can be "stuck in" that aren't listed in the materials.

One is the "getting off course incident".

This is where, as a public, you get off course and you are "greeted" by staff and "herded" into the reg office. You are seated in a chair away from the door, on the other side of a desk. At the door are [STRIKE]posted[/STRIKE] staff who attend the "interview". They are there to [STRIKE]keep you from leaving the room[/STRIKE] get anything you might need such as coffee or something so you don't have to get up and "interupt" the "interview". This is stuck in an incident.

Another one is where you are invited to attend a "briefing" to be informed on what is happening on the external fronts of Scientology, the ones you don't know about and are "protected" from by not reading newspapers or watching TV.

Here you are seated in a room.

I remember being "invited" to a CCHR (Citizens Commission on Human Rights) "briefing" where we were to be "briefed" on what was happening with the psychs and what CCHR was doing about it. I was assured that it wasn't a reg event. It was in a Hotel in a long narrow room with a conference table with chairs and one door.

I was seated at the end of the table as far away from the door as you could be. They didn't have to give the whole briefing before I realized it was a fund raiser. I got up out of the chair and headed for the door. I had to literally squeeze by all the others seated at the table. I was [STRIKE]cautioned [/STRIKE]told not to leave until the "briefing was finished. I just said this was a reg event and I was told it wasn't and I'm leaving. I didn't encounter as much resisitence on getting to the door as I expected but as soon as outside I was[STRIKE] accosted [/STRIKE]surrounded by staff. They [STRIKE]warned[/STRIKE] insisted that I should attened the rest of the "briefing". I just looked straight at them and said No, I'm leaving and did. I think someone, a public, wrote a KR but that was all. It was then that I found that I didn't have to be stuck in an incedent. :biggrin:
 

kate8024

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Another one is where you are invited to attend a "briefing" to be informed on what is happening on the external fronts of Scientology, the ones you don't know about and are "protected" from by not reading newspapers or watching TV.

There is a telephone-based version of this too where they get like 4 or so staff on the phone with you at the same time and reg the hell out of you under some vague false pretense (like "I have some really awesome news to give you! Can you give me a call this afternoon?"). In theory you can just hang up, but that means being rather rude to everyone on the call which I imagine many people don't want to do so they end up caving in.
 

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Scientology runs out every incident except Scientology.

People attempting to run out the Scientology incident are sent to ethics.

In ethics, they demand that you show them where Ron makes any mention of a Scientology incident. After you cannot do that, you only have to write up your crimes and then you can go back on your bridge to total freedom.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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There is a telephone-based version of this too where they get like 4 or so staff on the phone with you at the same time and reg the hell out of you under some vague false pretense (like "I have some really awesome news to give you! Can you give me a call this afternoon?"). In theory you can just hang up, but that means being rather rude to everyone on the call which I imagine many people don't want to do so they end up caving in.


That's wonderful that you are so completely aware of the manipulation in the COS. Otherwise one might get duped into paying them money and doing extension courses.

Please keep us informed of any other tricks that Scientology is trying to pull on us. Much appreciated!
 

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I am well familiar with the "stuck in phone incident".

Oddly enough, you will find more and more people dramatizing this incident today to the point where it could be called the "stuck in IPhone incident"

I've nearly hit a few people who are dramamtizing this incident while crossing streets.:yes:


There is a telephone-based version of this too where they get like 4 or so staff on the phone with you at the same time and reg the hell out of you under some vague false pretense (like "I have some really awesome news to give you! Can you give me a call this afternoon?"). In theory you can just hang up, but that means being rather rude to everyone on the call which I imagine many people don't want to do so they end up caving in.
 

MissWog

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I don't know if this person is still a Scientologist.. If you look at the thread about #stafflife, you will see what they tweeted (and what pasted here and on WWP) was pretty damning to DM.. If they are still in they can't be very happy about it.

But they did see me copy and paste their tweets from Twitter to here and to WWP.. And they did nit like it. So I apologized and won't do it again... All their other tweets are in Arabic so I'm not trying to stalk them and translate or anything. They used the #stafflife hashtag, so anyone can see their tweets but I will stop bc they asked me too.. Although now it doesn't sound like they were asking very nicely :eyeroll:
 

DagwoodGum

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There is a telephone-based version of this too where they get like 4 or so staff on the phone with you at the same time and reg the hell out of you under some vague false pretense (like "I have some really awesome news to give you! Can you give me a call this afternoon?"). In theory you can just hang up, but that means being rather rude to everyone on the call which I imagine many people don't want to do so they end up caving in.

Try what I used to do, talk for a few minutes and then ring your doorbell telling them "just a minute I have to see who's at the door". Then turn the TV up just loud enough to make it seem like you have company. 20 minutes later hang the phone up laughing yourself silly about how long they must have hung on the line waiting for you to come back. If they ever call you again apologize for how you got so busy with company that you forgot they were still on the line, then do it again... If they like wasting lots of time they'll keep calling back though. Rude yes, but it's giving them a taste of their own rudeness by gang reging you over the phone no less.
 
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