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What exactly Marty and Mike are doing?

HelluvaHoax!

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Just caught up on this thread. I am impressed with the reasoned and civil responses to some wacky theories being floated. Thus I have nothing of value to post at this time.

If the tone level of this thread plummets and the title changes to "What exactly Reguerra and Cuitlahuac are doing?" I may be back.

:giggle:
 

Emma

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Just caught up on this thread. I am impressed with the reasoned and civil responses to some wacky theories being floated. Thus I have nothing of value to post at this time.

If the tone level of this thread plummets and the title changes to "What exactly Reguerra and Cuitlahuac are doing?" I may be back.

:giggle:

Do we really need a new thread to discuss that? I think it's pretty obvious :biggrin:
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Do we really need a new thread to discuss that? I think it's pretty obvious :biggrin:


:hysterical:

Agreed! Besides, it's wayyyy more entertaining this way where certain posters believe they are "getting in good two-way-com and handling" over-restimulated posters on ESMB. LOL
 

cuitlahuac

Patron with Honors
You mean like getting his wife to sue DM?

I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.

How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.

So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?
 

Terril park

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I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.

How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.

So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?

Mike and his "group" [ whoever they] are do not need to grab Scn tech.
Many years ago he announced that he and Virginia were the only standard tech
auditors on the planet, and they got sessions from LRH in their garden shed.

There is a "black market" for tech? Who'd of thunk it?
 

john reguerra

Patron with Honors
I can say, having partially studied the Data Series, there is at least one piece of applicable information: The correct why will correct the situation. That I have used a lot in my life. I was going to say knowing there could be an "ideal scene" that one strives for or could exist is another useful bit of data, but as I started to write it, I realized, there are likely situations for which there are no ideal scenes. Take Scientology - I used to think it could be fixed, by removing Hubbard's crazy ideas, and achieve an ideal scene. A version of Scientology that would actually help people. But, if the practice of Scientology is mainly conditioning, thought manipulation, self hypnotism and faith healing, is there really an ideal scene to be achieved? Mimsey
I stone the crows, the way you understand and get conclusions about Scientology Technology is unbelievable.
I can understand if you are Spanish, French Canadian, German but American and English speaking and Ex-Scientology is not real.

One of the most approved person in this subject has problem with Ideal Scene, another has a similar problems.


But, never come to your mind that be, do, have, maybe could help you on this little problem of the application of this horrible non working stupid data series.
 
Those are both really good points and things I think about every day. The ones with the most influence on those who are inside are..... trusted people on the inside. But as soon as they show their hand and speak out they trigger the same ultra-defensive response those of us on the outside do. The story of Sara Goldberg and her daughter's disconnection is a stark reminder of that.

John raises a valid point. People on the inside, or many of them, have no idea. My spouse believes every word that screams off an event screen. =]S/he is convinced the future of scn is assured as far as one can imagine into the future. S/he would not dream of watching any of the upcoming news shows, reading a newsstand tabloid, or even peeking at verboten internet scum. How do we reach those people? How? How?? How???

Blanky

by doing auditing and auditor training better than CoS does it

the subject is superb. it is only those who know this who can be effective in undoing abuses. to oppose it you can keep CoS from getting large numbers of new people in, as appears to be happening but the true key will always just be to do the thing right

which can be done...

i did it right at fcdc. i saw to it that others did it right. the academy filled. the hgc filled and my wife and i made enough from staff pay to have a pleasant two room apartment
 

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Mike and his "group" [ whoever they] are do not need to grab Scn tech.
Many years ago he announced that he and Virginia were the only standard tech
auditors on the planet, and they got sessions from LRH in their garden shed.

There is a "black market" for tech? Who'd of thunk it?

you asked the exact question that puzzled me - there isn;t even a "white market" for the "tech"
 

HelluvaHoax!

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I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.

How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.

So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?


If it's not too much trouble, would you mind using THIS LINK please?
 

HelluvaHoax!

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I stone the crows, the way you understand and get conclusions about Scientology Technology is unbelievable.
I can understand if you are Spanish, French Canadian, German but American and English speaking and Ex-Scientology is not real.

One of the most approved person in this subject has problem with Ideal Scene, another has a similar problems.


But, never come to your mind that be, do, have, maybe could help you on this little problem of the application of this horrible non working stupid data series.


I read your post 3 times. That didn't help. . .

Just a wild guess, but do you happen to earn your income from eBay selling clay?
 

Anonycat

Crusader
I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.

How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.

So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?

All the crap you call tek, is available for free on the internet. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
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