Lol, consider the source! You seem very enamored of the more ridiculous misinformation about scientology on the internet.According to Mike McClaughry, Marty is doing Black Ops.
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The nuttier, the better? 
Lol, consider the source! You seem very enamored of the more ridiculous misinformation about scientology on the internet.
The nuttier, the better?
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Really? Do tell.Yea, "misinformation". McClaughry blew some covers here at ESMB.
Yea, "misinformation". McClaughry blew some covers here at ESMB.

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Just caught up on this thread. I am impressed with the reasoned and civil responses to some wacky theories being floated. Thus I have nothing of value to post at this time.
If the tone level of this thread plummets and the title changes to "What exactly Reguerra and Cuitlahuac are doing?" I may be back.

Do we really need a new thread to discuss that? I think it's pretty obvious![]()

According to Mike McClaughry, Marty is doing Black Ops.
You mean like getting his wife to sue DM?
I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.
How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.
So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?
I stone the crows, the way you understand and get conclusions about Scientology Technology is unbelievable.I can say, having partially studied the Data Series, there is at least one piece of applicable information: The correct why will correct the situation. That I have used a lot in my life. I was going to say knowing there could be an "ideal scene" that one strives for or could exist is another useful bit of data, but as I started to write it, I realized, there are likely situations for which there are no ideal scenes. Take Scientology - I used to think it could be fixed, by removing Hubbard's crazy ideas, and achieve an ideal scene. A version of Scientology that would actually help people. But, if the practice of Scientology is mainly conditioning, thought manipulation, self hypnotism and faith healing, is there really an ideal scene to be achieved? Mimsey
Hey now no fairsies, I was just gonna introduce him to john! What a cocktail party this would be!Cuitlahuac, have you met Rich?
Those are both really good points and things I think about every day. The ones with the most influence on those who are inside are..... trusted people on the inside. But as soon as they show their hand and speak out they trigger the same ultra-defensive response those of us on the outside do. The story of Sara Goldberg and her daughter's disconnection is a stark reminder of that.
John raises a valid point. People on the inside, or many of them, have no idea. My spouse believes every word that screams off an event screen. =]S/he is convinced the future of scn is assured as far as one can imagine into the future. S/he would not dream of watching any of the upcoming news shows, reading a newsstand tabloid, or even peeking at verboten internet scum. How do we reach those people? How? How?? How???
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Mike and his "group" [ whoever they] are do not need to grab Scn tech.
Many years ago he announced that he and Virginia were the only standard tech
auditors on the planet, and they got sessions from LRH in their garden shed.
There is a "black market" for tech? Who'd of thunk it?
I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.
How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.
So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?
you asked the exact question that puzzled me - there isn;t even a "white market" for the "tech"

I stone the crows, the way you understand and get conclusions about Scientology Technology is unbelievable.
I can understand if you are Spanish, French Canadian, German but American and English speaking and Ex-Scientology is not real.
One of the most approved person in this subject has problem with Ideal Scene, another has a similar problems.
But, never come to your mind that be, do, have, maybe could help you on this little problem of the application of this horrible non working stupid data series.
I have not reviewed the details on what Mike black ops might be. But if the data that Virginia is to sue COB DM is true, if it is true, then mike and his group are planning to grab scientology tech for their benefit.
How many groups are assembled to grab the tech and sell it in the black market? COB DM, McClaughry et al, the IRS/USA, Marty? I know of no others.
So, is Marty working for COB DM or wants to go "independent" for the benefit of another group?