What if it doesn't die?

[George Layton]

And earlier you posted :-

"Has it occurred to you that auditing may have harmed in in ways which you are unable to see at the time and are unable to see now?"

To quote the sage of Nazerath:-

" Why do you notice the sliver in your friends eye, but overlook the timber in your own? How can you say to your friend, "Let me get the
sliver out of your eye", when there is that timber in your own? You phony,
first take the timber out of your own eye and then you'll see well
enough to remove the sliver from your friends eye."

You give me ad hom, make wrong, wrong item, wrong indication
and a determined effort to introvert.[/QUOTE]

That last part there, is that the EP of scientology?

 

[Bill]

Not in the least upset.

Just indicated some weird viewpoints.

Yeah, I knew you weren't upset. That's why I put "get upset" in quotes. I saw that it was just for show.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

...

There have been other holocausts.

The mass killing of upwards of 1.5 million Christians by Muslim Turks, beginning in 1915, served as a model for Hitler's later program. He figured that if the Turks could get away with it, then he could too.

The Ukrainian genocide of the 1930's killed up to 7.5 million.

And then there's the systematic eradication of Christians in Muslim lands that has been happening in the last few decades.

. . . and there's also the systemic eradication of overpopulation thetans in the Galactic Confederation.

While one can question Hubbard's poorly crafted syntax and resulting ambiguity about how many beings were killed--either 250 billion per planet, or the more likely 178 billion of 250 billion living on each of the 76 planets--we can nonetheless easily calculate that Xenu's Holocaust murdered countless trillions of innocent people.

Well, actually let's run the math so we know how many exactly perished in the great galactic holocaust.

Using the lesser number (178 billion per planet):

178,000,000,000 x 76 (planets) = 13,528,000,000,000.

That's 13.53 Trillion murders.

By comparison, Nazis only killed 6M, so Hitler and his crew weren't nearly as dangerous!

And, Scientology has murdered way less than Nazis, so do you finally see what I've been saying all these years, people!? That Scientologists are really not bad at all.

 

[Elronius of Marcabia]

...



Exactly! I've had that discussion with Indie Scientologist here on ESMB several times, over the years. It goes something like this. . .

SCIENTOLOGIST
I am clear.

EX-SCIENTOLOGIST
No you're not.
There are no clears.

SCIENTOLOGIST
You're saying I am lying about clear.
Thus, you're saying I'm a liar.
That's ad hom.

EX-SCIENTOLOGIST
I'm just saying there is no clear.

SCIENTOLOGIST
Besides ad hom, now you are attacking me too.

EX-SCIENTOLGIST
How did I attack you?

SCIENTOLOGIST
First Ad hom! Then attacking me!
And now Q & A with non-standard
squirrel questions designed to spin me in.
What are your crimes, cocksucker?!​

Scientologists: They're the friendliest people in the world. Unless you disagree with them.

Yep real sweethearts untill they shed they Edgar suit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9puHtVcU5o

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

...




. . . and there's also the systemic eradication of overpopulation thetans in the Galactic Confederation.

While one can question Hubbard's poorly crafted syntax and resulting ambiguity about how many beings were killed--either 250 billion per planet, or the more likely 178 billion of 250 billion living on each of the 76 planets--we can nonetheless easily calculate that Xenu's Holocaust murdered countless trillions of innocent people.

Well, actually let's run the math so we know how many exactly perished in the great galactic holocaust.

Using the lesser number (178 billion per planet):

178,000,000,000 x 76 (planets) = 13,528,000,000,000.

That's 13.53 Trillion murders.

By comparison, Nazis only killed 6M, so Hitler and his crew weren't nearly as dangerous!

And, Scientology has murdered way less than Nazis, so do you finally see what I've been saying all these years, people!? That Scientologists are really not bad at all.

That means Tommy Davis, Anne Archer, Tom Cruise and the like are intergalactic holocaust deniers.

 

[Anonycat]

...




. . . and there's also the systemic eradication of overpopulation thetans in the Galactic Confederation.

While one can question Hubbard's poorly crafted syntax and resulting ambiguity about how many beings were killed--either 250 billion per planet, or the more likely 178 billion of 250 billion living on each of the 76 planets--we can nonetheless easily calculate that Xenu's Holocaust murdered countless trillions of innocent people.

Well, actually let's run the math so we know how many exactly perished in the great galactic holocaust.

Using the lesser number (178 billion per planet):

178,000,000,000 x 76 (planets) = 13,528,000,000,000.

That's 13.53 Trillion murders.

By comparison, Nazis only killed 6M, so Hitler and his crew weren't nearly as dangerous!

And, Scientology has murdered way less than Nazis, so do you finally see what I've been saying all these years, people!? That Scientologists are really not bad at all.

Of the many drug-addled writings and talks, this has always been a favorite of mine. And not because it's the reason for auditing. Okay, the point is, that the DC-10 has a maximum seating capacity of 380 bodies, on this planet.

As we know, the terrain was not hospitable on this planet, 75 million years ago. Least of all, to land a DC-10. Oh ... I just said "a DC-10". Let's see, with a capacity of 380 frozen bodies, you'd need around 10,526,315,790 DC-10s to transport just 4 trillion peep-sicles. Wow, that's a lot. And there would of course have to be that many spacecraft available to Xenu and his false tax audit scam. And then you'd need pilots, and I'd think, have to feed and compensate them. Come to think of it, how do you kill trillions of people without anyone noticing and getting suspicious, and ultimately, reacting to it?

Clearly, Hubbard saved mankind with his awesome bullshit. BRB, gotta go get some of Xenus' victims off my bod. Prison Planet FTW!

 

[programmer_guy]

Of the many drug-addled writings and talks, this has always been a favorite of mine. And not because it's the reason for auditing. Okay, the point is, that the DC-10 has a maximum seating capacity of 380 bodies, on this planet.

As we know, the terrain was not hospitable on this planet, 75 million years ago. Least of all, to land a DC-10. Oh ... I just said "a DC-10". Let's see, with a capacity of 380 frozen bodies, you'd need around 10,526,315,790 DC-10s to transport just 4 trillion peep-sicles. Wow, that's a lot. And there would of course have to be that many spacecraft available to Xenu and his false tax audit scam. And then you'd need pilots, and I'd think, have to feed and compensate them. Come to think of it, how do you kill trillions of people, without anyone noticing, getting suspicious, and ultimately, reacting to it?

Clearly, Hubbard saved mankind with his awesome bullshit. BRB, gotta go get some of Xenus' victims off my bod. Prison Planet FTW!

It doesn't matter if it makes any sense.
All that matters is if the PC gets cog, VGIs, and F/N.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Of the many drug-addled writings and talks, this has always been a favorite of mine. And not because it's the reason for auditing. Okay, the point is, that the DC-10 has a maximum seating capacity of 380 bodies, on this planet.

As we know, the terrain was not hospitable on this planet, 75 million years ago. Least of all, to land a DC-10. Oh ... I just said "a DC-10". Let's see, with a capacity of 380 frozen bodies, you'd need around 10,526,315,790 DC-10s to transport just 4 trillion peep-sicles. Wow, that's a lot. And there would of course have to be that many spacecraft available to Xenu and his false tax audit scam. And then you'd need pilots, and I'd think, have to feed and compensate them. Come to think of it, how do you kill trillions of people, without anyone noticing, getting suspicious, and ultimately, reacting to it?

Clearly, Hubbard saved mankind with his awesome bullshit. BRB, gotta go get some of Xenus' victims off my bod. Prison Planet FTW!

LOLOL

Yeah, and exactly how many people have to be in on the genocidal conspiracy in order to "call in" 13,528,000,000,000 individuals for a "tax audit"?


Lemme just picture how that scene will play in the movie. . .


INT. TAX AGENCY RECEPTION- MORNING

In walks Mr. Smithers in his brown double pleated suit. He signs in, removes his matching brown fedora and takes a seat with all the other identically dressed men already waiting.

RECEPTIONIST
So you're here for the------tax audit?
​

Smithers suddenly notices the receptionist's cheeky grin on those last two words. He pauses, almost frozen for a few beats, as if he senses something is terribly wrong. Then he shrugs it off and happily returns to reading his magazine.

 

[Jump]

Of the many drug-addled writings and talks, this has always been a favorite of mine. And not because it's the reason for auditing. Okay, the point is, that the DC-10 has a maximum seating capacity of 380 bodies, on this planet.

As we know, the terrain was not hospitable on this planet, 75 million years ago. Least of all, to land a DC-10. Oh ... I just said "a DC-10". Let's see, with a capacity of 380 frozen bodies, you'd need around 10,526,315,790 DC-10s to transport just 4 trillion peep-sicles. Wow, that's a lot. And there would of course have to be that many spacecraft available to Xenu and his false tax audit scam. And then you'd need pilots, and I'd think, have to feed and compensate them. Come to think of it, how do you kill trillions of people, without anyone noticing, getting suspicious, and ultimately, reacting to it?

Clearly, Hubbard saved mankind with his awesome bullshit. BRB, gotta go get some of Xenus' victims off my bod. Prison Planet FTW!

Dr Hubbard stated that it was the DC-8 which was selected as his intergalactic passenger transport of choice on this planet. That aircraft had a seating capacity of around 200, and up to 260 in its highest capacity mode.

I was going to KR you, but the outpoint will come up in auditing.

ML

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

What if it doesn't die?

ANSWER: It is dying. Think of Scientology like a soldier on the battlefield, critically injured by multiple gunshot wounds. They might still be able to fire off some last shots--before they run out of bullets or blood, whichever occurs first.

Maybe a graphic would help?

Okay, I chose to graph out Scientology's vital signs since 1950 to present, using a chart normally employed to make stock trades with. Rather than a linear graph, it uses "candlesticks" which indicate the highest and lowest number on a particular date.

I also picked this chart because it depicts one of the classic indicators that a stock is about to crash, LOL. It is the "head & shoulders" pattern. Here you go. . .

SCIENTOLOGY'S DWINDLING SPIRAL

​

So, the surge in the 1960s was St. Hill and the release of the OT Levels.

The next up-surge in the 70's paralleled the release of countless new "rundowns" (e.g. Expanded Dianetics, PRD, Method 1 Word Clearing, Expanded Grades, et al)

Then we have the peaked out 1980s with the release of NOTS, new OT IV, new OT V, new OT VI and new OT VII. That's the "head" of the head-and-shoulders pattern.

Later in the 90's (see 2nd "shoulder" before the crash) there were other "minor breakthroughs" and stat pushes, but by then all of the folks who dreamed of attaining the state of OT over the decades began to figure out that the tech didn't work. Thus the dwindling spiral began with former true-blue kool-aid drinkers beginning to return to the world of buying houses, paying for children's college and upgrading their beater "I'm paying for my bridge!" cars for something new and shiny.

The "dwindling spiral" grabbed untold traction with the INTERNET and BLOWN INT EXECS, tell-all exposes, books, magazines, television and award winning documentaries. And the unthinkable--CELEBRITIES blowing and calling out the cult publicly!

We are right around "A" (chart above) now. The COS blew any (and every) chance it had to reform and/or redeem itself--by continuing to lie and attack others in sociopathic/criminal fashion.

The public hates and mocks Scientology now.

All that remains is the cult's last gasping, dying lies and feigned bravado.

After that, there is only The Joy of [STRIKE]Creating[/STRIKE] Schadenfreude.

I liked what you did with this. What do you think a graph would look like with separate plot lines for:

• Revenues
• Real Estate Assets
• Active Membership
• Services Delivered

 

[lotus]

See what happens with verbal tech ????

The tek is modified and then people claims it doesn't work :confused2:

 

[Anonycat]

LOLOL

Yeah, and exactly how many people have to be in on the genocidal conspiracy in order to "call in" 13,528,000,000,000 individuals for a "tax audit"?


Lemme just picture how that scene will play in the movie. . .


INT. TAX AGENCY RECEPTION- MORNING

In walks Mr. Smithers in his brown double pleated suit. He signs in, removes his matching brown fedora and takes a seat with all the other identically dressed men already waiting.

RECEPTIONIST
So you're here for the------tax audit?
​

Smithers suddenly notices the receptionist's cheeky grin on those last two words. He pauses, almost frozen for a few beats, as if he senses something is terribly wrong. Then he shrugs it off and happily returns to reading his magazine.

Well, that would be a lot of phone calls or knocking on doors, or whatever!

Okay, you'd need a pilot and co-pilot, presumably at least a few staff to watch the condition of the bodies with the souls trapped inside. Then there's the millions of tons of food and the food preparation/catering supplies. And a medical department with supplies. And sanitation equipment. And magnetic-fucking-ribbons to suspend over volcanoes to trap souls for delivery to the amazing brainwashing theater. Right, the theater has to be transported, too. Oh, gotta bring all those bombs. With the trillion people it would take, and man-hours I'm too lazy to calculate right now, it's insane. It would take generations.

You'd also need an eternal force-field, and a huge army. Because that's how the story ends.

I guess you'd need to transport a huge army, arms, more medical provisions, a communication station dedicated to that, a headquarter, and millions of more tons of food and provisions to provide for the staffing. And millions of more staff ... and DC-8s.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

...




. . . and there's also the systemic eradication of overpopulation thetans in the Galactic Confederation.

While one can question Hubbard's poorly crafted syntax and resulting ambiguity about how many beings were killed--either 250 billion per planet, or the more likely 178 billion of 250 billion living on each of the 76 planets--we can nonetheless easily calculate that Xenu's Holocaust murdered countless trillions of innocent people.

Well, actually let's run the math so we know how many exactly perished in the great galactic holocaust.

Using the lesser number (178 billion per planet):

178,000,000,000 x 76 (planets) = 13,528,000,000,000.

That's 13.53 Trillion murders.

By comparison, Nazis only killed 6M, so Hitler and his crew weren't nearly as dangerous!

And, Scientology has murdered way less than Nazis, so do you finally see what I've been saying all these years, people!? That Scientologists are really not bad at all.

"Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent." - George Orwell

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

LOLOL

Yeah, and exactly how many people have to be in on the genocidal conspiracy in order to "call in" 13,528,000,000,000 individuals for a "tax audit"?


Lemme just picture how that scene will play in the movie. . .


INT. TAX AGENCY RECEPTION- MORNING

In walks Mr. Smithers in his brown double pleated suit. He signs in, removes his matching brown fedora and takes a seat with all the other identically dressed men already waiting.

RECEPTIONIST
So you're here for the------tax audit?
​

Smithers suddenly notices the receptionist's cheeky grin on those last two words. He pauses, almost frozen for a few beats, as if he senses something is terribly wrong. Then he shrugs it off and happily returns to reading his magazine.

And no internet to electronically file your returns.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

FIFY.

"[STRIKE]Never[/STRIKE] Always use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word even if you can think of an everyday English equivalent." - George Orwell

I think poor old tubs hubbard may have misunderstood that particular sentence.

 

[Anonycat]

And no internet to electronically file your returns.

And remember to buy stock in glycol, alcohol, and syringes.

 

[Anonycat]

Dr Hubbard stated that it was the DC-8 which was selected as his intergalactic passenger transport of choice on this planet. That aircraft had a seating capacity of around 200, and up to 260 in its highest capacity mode.

I was going to KR you, but the outpoint will come up in auditing.

ML

Yes ... yes. I just watched an interview clip with Larry, or someone, and they said: 10. I thought to myself, that's wrong, it's 8. Then ... I wrote it.

 

[Jump]

Yes ... yes. I just watched an interview clip with Larry, or someone, and they said: 10. I thought to myself, that's wrong, it's 8. Then ... I wrote it.

Oh damn DC-10 is probably GATII.

I'll be enroling myself for the RPF right now.

 

[Some Random Guy]

And earlier you posted :-

"Has it occurred to you that auditing may have harmed in in ways which you are unable to see at the time and are unable to see now?"

To quote the sage of Nazerath:-

" Why do you notice the sliver in your friends eye, but overlook the timber in your own? How can you say to your friend, "Let me get the
sliver out of your eye", when there is that timber in your own? You phony,
first take the timber out of your own eye and then you'll see well
enough to remove the sliver from your friends eye."

You give me ad hom, make wrong, wrong item, wrong indication
and a determined effort to introvert.

What I fail to understand is that you come to this forum as a champion of Hubbard and his tech whilst knowing full well that most who frequent here are critical of the Great OT.

Then you seem suprised at comments and replies to you?

Don't you think that you are choosing a rod for your own back?

 

[I told you I was trouble]

As far as I can tell most Indie/Freezoners were booted out of the cofs or they left willingly (but in a huff) because they couldn't have their own way and were in constant "ethics" trouble. They often see themselves as rebels.

So, many of them land here (ESMB) and seem to hope/imagine that we are all in a similar frame of mind to them (hate the dwarf/still loyal to hubbard ... or one of the many variations on that theme) but we're not. Most people here seem to have done with the whole thing, want to hear no more cultspeak and are basically just laughing scientology out of their lives with like minded people and regaining a sense of themselves minus all that tedious cultic bunkum.

Freezoners/Indies have placed themselves in the middle of two groups of people with (mainly) opposing views and neither side want anything the Freezone/Indies are trying to sell and that doesn't seem very clever to me.

Most Freezoners/Indies (again, as far as I can tell) seem to be elderly old timers who are still thinking through a wall of crazy tehk and should perhaps consider taking up train spotting now instead of planet saving (they're very similar in many ways) ... I'd happily contribute to buying them all anoraks and authoritative looking clipboards and pencils.