Where is LRH?

[Pascal]

Where is LRH?

To ex-SO, etc... What are the rumours about LRH?

I just can't think he would blow the planet and leave morons in charge to clear it.

If you want something done, you do it yourself. To hell with PR crap about groups, "we come back", and the rest of the BS to get lesser thetans on board and feeling important.

 

[svonhatten]

"Church" officials drugged up LRH with psych drugs and made him sign a last will and testament benefiting David Miscavige quite a bit. They probably killed him. Who injects 10 shots of psych drugs into their buttocks anyway?

LRH was probably a little looney by that time, but sometimes even the greatest minds can't handle all that truth. I'll bet that's what set him over the edge. That, and I've heard people say that LRH used to take drugs. That's plenty possible, and if LRH was truly insane (paranoid schizophrenic), then that probably had a lot to do with it.

DM and other church officials probably got rid of LRH so as to not cause an incident and make LRH out to be a martyr.

In any case, if he IS out in the universe somewhere, I'm sure he's come to terms with what he had discovered here on Earth, and probably "continuing his research." ... maybe...

 

[Pascal]

"Church" officials drugged up LRH with psych drugs and made him sign a last will and testament benefiting David Miscavige quite a bit. They probably killed him. Who injects 10 shots of psych drugs into their buttocks anyway?

LRH was probably a little looney by that time, but sometimes even the greatest minds can't handle all that truth. I'll bet that's what set him over the edge. That, and I've heard people say that LRH used to take drugs. That's plenty possible, and if LRH was truly insane (paranoid schizophrenic), then that probably had a lot to do with it.

DM and other church officials probably got rid of LRH so as to not cause an incident and make LRH out to be a martyr.

In any case, if he IS out in the universe somewhere, I'm sure he's come to terms with what he had discovered here on Earth, and probably "continuing his research." ... maybe...

What drug? What is it used for? How do you know? Where is that will?

Maybe LRH left the body long before that and the COS kept it around for a while until it died.

 

[svonhatten]

Hubbard died at his ranch on 24 January 1986, aged 74, reportedly from a stroke. Scientology attorneys arrived to claim his body, which they sought to have cremated immediately per his will. They were blocked by the San Luis Obispo County medical examiner, who ordered a drug toxicology test of a blood sample from Hubbard's corpse. The examination revealed a trace amount of the drug hydroxyzine (brand name Vistaril). Vistaril is commonly prescribed as a sedative for symptomatic treatment of anxiety or neurosis or as an adjunct in non-related diseases in which anxiety is apparent. It is also useful in treating allergic pruritus such as chronic urticaria and atopic and contact dermatoses. After the blood was taken, Hubbard's remains were cremated.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard#Later_life
Copy of original: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Toxicology_Report_Hubbard.gif

Some interesting testimonies about LRH's death:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/hubbardcoroner/

LRH's Wills:
http://home.earthlink.net/~snefru/deathoflrh/#wills
http://home.earthlink.net/~snefru/deathoflrh/1986.html

The last one was drafted the day before his death.

 

[Zinjifar]

The last one was drafted the day before his death.

The signature on Hubbard's 'will' has never been validated, and, the 'Church' has been known to go so far as to drop lawsuits when it appeared the 'will' might be questioned.

Zinj

 

[Pascal]

The signature on Hubbard's 'will' has never been validated, and, the 'Church' has been known to go so far as to drop lawsuits when it appeared the 'will' might be questioned.

Zinj

Where are these "wills"? I get dead links only.

OSA told me LRH says buh-bye on a RJ but I heard he never did his hat write up, nor power-change.

 

[Zinjifar]

Where are these "wills"? I get dead links only.

OSA told me LRH says buh-bye on a RJ but I heard he never did his hat write up, nor power-change.

http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/sigfraud.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~snefru/deathoflrh/1982.html
http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/documents/1986-01-23will.html

...of many

Zinj

 

[Pascal]

http://www.factnet.org/Scientology/sigfraud.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~snefru/deathoflrh/1982.html
http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/documents/1986-01-23will.html

...of many

Zinj

Thanks man.


What a confusing mess.

Pat Broeker seem to be the key to all this.

Where is this document giving him power?

Where is he? His wife? Who was he?

 

[Zinjifar]

Thanks man.


What a confusing mess.

Pat Broeker seem to be the key to all this.

Where is this document giving him power?

Where is he? His wife? Who was he?

Pat is apparently alive and well and staying off the radar.
Annie is remarried (or, at least renamed - divorces are rampant) and playing the tom tom for the galley slaves at Int Base.

Zinj

 

[Little Bear Victor]

In a galaxy far, far away...

Just for your edutainment, I have a great explanation that DM could use in his next LRH Birthday Event to alleviate the concern of the Faithful people who might have the same question in the back of their minds.

Take a gander at what the Hubble telescope has revealed :

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2007/10/

This is the news release on the twentieth anniversary of the supernova that was discovered in 1987, incidentally shortly after LRH departed. It has the distinct look of an Int Event pyrotechnic show, this time on galactic scale... and what is that symbol that has taken shape in the center, if not the Scn symbol?! For improved authenticity, it is also surrounded by the easy-to-recognize intergalactic navitional double-rings, a welcomed sight for anyone familiar with the CST "crop circles."

Check out also the movie showing how the symbol has developed over its 20-year life span.

Thought you should know. Just don't take me seriously -- or tell DM, otherwise we will be seeing it at the next event!

V

 

[Voltaire's Child]

AFAIK, Vistaril is an antihistimine w/ mind altering characteristics.

 

[svonhatten]

Just for your edutainment, I have a great explanation that DM could use in his next LRH Birthday Event to alleviate the concern of the Faithful people who might have the same question in the back of their minds.

Take a gander at what the Hubble telescope has revealed :

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2007/10/

This is the news release on the twentieth anniversary of the supernova that was discovered in 1987, incidentally shortly after LRH departed. It has the distinct look of an Int Event pyrotechnic show, this time on galactic scale... and what is that symbol that has taken shape in the center, if not the Scn symbol?! For improved authenticity, it is also surrounded by the easy-to-recognize intergalactic navitional double-rings, a welcomed sight for anyone familiar with the CST "crop circles."

Check out also the movie showing how the symbol has developed over its 20-year life span.

Thought you should know. Just don't take me seriously -- or tell DM, otherwise we will be seeing it at the next event!

V

Oh my gosh!!! That's amazing!

 

[Veda]

Oh my gosh!!! That's amazing!

Off topic, but this is as good a place as any - Your sig line has the quote from HCOPL 15 Nov 1968, "Since we can now handle all types of cases, disconnection as a condition is cancelled."

This quote is either from the disingenuous "Reform Code" presented for public consumption in 1968, or from a related "Policy" issue.

The "Reform Code" of 1968, the "cancellation" of "Fair Game," of "Security Checking," and of "Disconnection" were display "policy," used for PR purposes.

There was a "PR flap" over these areas of Scientology at the time, and the "cancellation" was to quell that flap. It wasn't sincere.

 

[svonhatten]

Off topic, but this is as good a place as any - Your sig line has the quote from HCOPL 15 Nov 1968, "Since we can now handle all types of cases, disconnection as a condition is cancelled."

This quote is either from the disingenuous "Reform Code" presented for public consumption in 1968, or from a related "Policy" issue.

The "Reform Code" of 1968, the "cancellation" of "Fair Game," of "Security Checking," and of "Disconnection" were display "policy," used for PR purposes.

There was a "PR flap" over these areas of Scientology at the time, and the "cancellation" was to quell that flap. It wasn't sincere.

Well, if you think about, we as Scientologists have the keys to get along with ANYONE and handle them. There's no reason why we shouldn't get along with critics AND church members. Not doing so, we might end up like Jerry Falwell or something.

 

[Zinjifar]

Well, if you think about, we as Scientologists have the keys to get along with ANYONE and handle them. There's no reason why we shouldn't get along with critics AND church members. Not doing so, we might end up like Jerry Falwell or something.

Most 'critics' are too aware of the manipulation to be easily 'handled'. As, for that matter, are many 'wogs', who just happen to be hip to 'head games'.

Scientologists are 'easier' to handle, because they actually think it's 'Ethical' to go along with the gag...

Zinj

 

[svonhatten]

Most 'critics' are too aware of the manipulation to be easily 'handled'. As, for that matter, are many 'wogs', who just happen to be hip to 'head games'.

Scientologists are 'easier' to handle, because they actually think it's 'Ethical' to go along with the gag...

Zinj

When it was written, I wasn't aware of any overts the cof$ had committed.

Not sure about your other remark.

 

[Veda]

Well, if you think about, we as Scientologists have the keys to get along with ANYONE and handle them. There's no reason why we shouldn't get along with critics AND church members. Not doing so, we might end up like Jerry Falwell or something.

I'm not a Scientologist.

Disconnection was not "cancelled"; the statement was a lie, told by Hubbard, to "handle" a PR flap.

If anyone wishes to use a misleading PR statement by Hubbard, then he or she won't be the only one. The Freezone is full of people who take Hubbard's disingenuous PR lines seriously.

That's just the way it is. No point in dwelling on it.

 

[svonhatten]

I'm not a Scientologist.

Disconnection was not "cancelled"; the statement was a lie, told by Hubbard, to "handle" a PR flap.

If anyone wishes to use a misleading PR statement by Hubbard, then he or she won't be the only one. The Freezone is full of people who take Hubbard's disingenuous PR lines seriously.

That's just the way it is. No point in dwelling on it.

That may be, but at least they aren't destroying families and actually being ethical... something some "church" I know seems to have a VERY difficult time with accomplishing... can you guess what church?

 

[Zinjifar]

That may be, but at least they aren't destroying families and actually being ethical... something some "church" I know seems to have a VERY difficult time with accomplishing... can you guess what church?

They *are* destroying families; now more than ever, and, as for 'Ethical', the only 'Ethical' in Scientology is Scientology Ethics, which is defined as 'Whatever's Good For Scientology'.

Zinj

 

[Alan]

Take a gander at what the Hubble telescope has revealed :

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2007/10/

Check out also the movie showing how the symbol has developed over its 20-year life span.

Thought you should know. Just don't take me seriously -- or tell DM, otherwise we will be seeing it at the next event!

V

The super-nova phenomena is almost the exact similar phenomena as you get when you have an Ascension Experience.

There is a lot of data about AEs on this thread.

http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=327

Alan