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If you check over old posts at VV, you'll see that there was endless nattering by a pro-scilon troll, about the backpage site and Tony, even though Tony had nothing to do with it. The company he worked for also owned backpage, there was no more to it than that. The first major online attacks on Tony started appearing as this was going on, though the very weak link to backpage was almost all the ammo they had.

Then Tony stopped working there, and VV spun off or sold backpage last year.

By now the relationship between Tony and backpage is so remote that I'm not sure that even OSA's silly enough to try to get any mileage out of it.
well, i only just saw that whois page on tony yesterday, and then hearing this big npr piece on backpage today just sort of freaked me out.
stupid "church" is stupid. they should correct their smear page.
 

kate8024

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Someone should start making whois sites about the whois sites, eg whoiswhoistonyortega which corrects information on the whois site.
 

ClearedSP

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well, i only just saw that whois page on tony yesterday

Before that he was being routinely attacked in comments by known sci-trolls, but also the first smear pages on him went up on (not gonna link to it) villagevoicepimp dot com, which was triumphantly unveiled in one of those comments. VVpimps also showed up on twitter and, in various forms elsewhere. Jim Lynch then started his "investigation" of Tony. It looked pretty orchestrated, as some noted at the time.

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miscaveat

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I could be wrong, but based on what I've been reading, I think the attacks on Tony before he started working at VV and were actually started by a man named Bruce McMahan: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/10/memo_to_bruce_m.php & https://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/time-for-new-times-greatest-tabloid-story-ever_b2877 & http://tonyortega.xxx/

McMahan apparently hired a guy named Burt Kozloff to run a smear campaign against Tony & VV, and I think it's this Kozloff guy who started the Village Voice Pimp website, because Kozloff looks like the person who first started using the Backpage angle to bully Tony: http://thedailycannibal.com/category/village-voice-deathwatch/ & http://thedailycannibal.com/2011/01...he-vv-mcmahan-storyextortion-pure-and-simple/

So if these guys were the ones who first started these smear tactics against Tony, could be that the cult spin doctors got in touch with them to synchronize their efforts.

Whatever is going on, it's obviously very bizarre when they can get away with that sort of thing in the US. Tony should really be given one of those press awards for taking risks in breaking these types of stories. I'd think that activist groups like Reporters Without Borders & PEN would be interested in all of this.
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
That's such a straw man of my position. Sorry, but it is. Do I think it's acceptable that they fly Cruise and Travolta in to schmooze the Florida judges? Fuck no! It's their standard modus operandi, which is why auditors make reports to OSA files of any useful contacts in the first place, let alone the fact that they have a network of spies rivaling the FBI per Ted Gunderson, so they are already infiltrating the areas they want to influence for their own purposes. I can't believe I am having to explain this to anyone.

I think it sucks that they get away with this is all. It really sucks. I'm sure that Fox has a lot of people of other religions on that show as well, but nobody shies away from reporting on abuses in those institutions.

But, yeah, burqas, apartheid - that's what I'm saying?? Really??

As mentioned previously, I was being satirical. Satire is not a word for word or intrinsic recreation of the earlier commentary. But it can and does make certain points.

I thought- and not necessarily just based on your commentary but also others' comments- that there possibly may be a thought that if someone is a member of a toxic organization or movement (including but not limited to Scn) that the individual could or should not be trusted to hold certain positions.

I went through the same thing with a friend who opined that Jenny McCarthy should not appear on that Oh So Beloved in America (what the FUCK has happened to my beloved country, anyway?) Hen Party "The View" because of her stance on vaccinations causing autism (a truly specious and disproven theory). And I was like, really? It's not like they hired her to be on a medical panel. Why should she be pilloried for having a bullshit theory? If she says anything like that on that Hen Par- I mean The View, she'll get shouted down by the other rocket scientists on there. And who's to say she even would?

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