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I got into $cientology in 1979 was only active for about 3 years, but until 5 months ago I knew nothing about the Xenu story, still thought OT's had special powers and beleived $cn version of Hubbard's life.
I remember sayings like
" no discussing case", ..and
"thats confidential".
That meant that apart from a few stories about people being able to go exterior and visit others parts of the world, remember past lives, I actually had never discussed with anbody what they had experienced from the 'oh so wonderful auditing'.
It still seemed like a magical way of becoming:
'Cause over life'
'Cause over matter energy space and time'
In fact the grade chart as it then was, really impressed me, although I noticed few people around me had gone very far on it.
On staff I experienced NOTS completions coming into the Qual. depmnt. and attesting, giving a speech to a crowd of enthused listeners.
It beacame very obvious that nobody was going to mention anything 'confidential'.
The OT's there seemed like normal people, in fact some I found rather dull and mediocre.
Did I expect too much of them?
Then there was the sayingmaybe quoted not quite right), which seemed to explain everything.
"A cleared canibal is a cleared canibal'
Or when a public OT seemed less able:
"he hasn't done the training side of the bridge, which is just as important!"
Anyway back to where I started, I think that a lot of the CULT's intention is to keep as much as possible in a 'secret' 'mystic' area.
By not even being allowed to discuss what you experienced in auditing it makes the whole thing a mystery, dont you think?
Why not publish a book in $cientology of all the successful 'engrams' that had been eradicated thru 'auditing'.
A book on all the special powers people had developed thru the OT levels, with the people saying who they were, so we could contact them and admire them.
$cientology does like its success stories, so why not do it?
Why not a book about real 'pastllives'?..... or a programme like we have in the UK on TV called 'who do you think you are?',
where they delve into the family tree of people, going back hundreds of years.
Surely this would just make critics like us just dissolve like an aspirin in water.
If people are paying huge amounts of money for these 'abilities', then why not just get some clears together and prove to us that it really exists, surely its not so difficult.
If I said to you I had developed thru yoga the ability to levitate my body, you would say,
"ok, show me!"
Why are these questions not being asked?
In the books of LRH the abilities are listed and on the grade-chart (as I remember it) they End Phenomen is also stated for each level.
Am I just a twit for thinking up such a tool for finding out the 'truth'?
I remember sayings like
" no discussing case", ..and
"thats confidential".
That meant that apart from a few stories about people being able to go exterior and visit others parts of the world, remember past lives, I actually had never discussed with anbody what they had experienced from the 'oh so wonderful auditing'.
It still seemed like a magical way of becoming:
'Cause over life'
'Cause over matter energy space and time'
In fact the grade chart as it then was, really impressed me, although I noticed few people around me had gone very far on it.
On staff I experienced NOTS completions coming into the Qual. depmnt. and attesting, giving a speech to a crowd of enthused listeners.
It beacame very obvious that nobody was going to mention anything 'confidential'.
The OT's there seemed like normal people, in fact some I found rather dull and mediocre.
Did I expect too much of them?
Then there was the sayingmaybe quoted not quite right), which seemed to explain everything.
"A cleared canibal is a cleared canibal'
Or when a public OT seemed less able:
"he hasn't done the training side of the bridge, which is just as important!"
Anyway back to where I started, I think that a lot of the CULT's intention is to keep as much as possible in a 'secret' 'mystic' area.
By not even being allowed to discuss what you experienced in auditing it makes the whole thing a mystery, dont you think?
Why not publish a book in $cientology of all the successful 'engrams' that had been eradicated thru 'auditing'.
A book on all the special powers people had developed thru the OT levels, with the people saying who they were, so we could contact them and admire them.
$cientology does like its success stories, so why not do it?
Why not a book about real 'pastllives'?..... or a programme like we have in the UK on TV called 'who do you think you are?',
where they delve into the family tree of people, going back hundreds of years.
Surely this would just make critics like us just dissolve like an aspirin in water.
If people are paying huge amounts of money for these 'abilities', then why not just get some clears together and prove to us that it really exists, surely its not so difficult.
If I said to you I had developed thru yoga the ability to levitate my body, you would say,
"ok, show me!"
Why are these questions not being asked?
In the books of LRH the abilities are listed and on the grade-chart (as I remember it) they End Phenomen is also stated for each level.
Am I just a twit for thinking up such a tool for finding out the 'truth'?