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Why Has Mike Rinder Never Revealed A Crime?

Discussion in 'Life After Scientology' started by Alanzo, Aug 11, 2019.

  1. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

  2. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    The FBI IS enforcement.

    What would you do to bring down Miscavige once the FBI failed to act?

    I only quoted Marty as you had mentioned him in your post.

    If you look at the petition as written by Graham Berry you'll see it reads:
    "...the FBI has 300+ recent complaints of Scientology crimes and atrocities — human trafficking, forced abortions and civil rights violations, and the IRS has evidence of private inurement violations justifying intermediate sanctions, and existing evidence on hand meets RICO statutes..."
  3. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    I'm pretty sure that was me.

    I edited out a few insults from HH's posts
    I told the truth that I called Karen a "control freak"
    Jeffrey does whatever Karen says.
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  4. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    He said he did.

    11 years ago. And we still have no idea what he told them even tho Mike has had a blog and a TV show this whole time.

    But Mike Rinder was the head of OSA for 22 YEARS for David Miscavige.

    Why would you believe this guy on his word alone - and no evidence?

    Serious question - not rhetorical.
  5. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    OK, wouldn't it be better to end ESMB on a happy note?
  6. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Because I have no reason not to.

    I also have an understanding of how the legal system works.

    In 1993, the CoS was given tax exemption for being a religion which it is not and you think that if Mike gave them all DM's crimes they would want to prosecute him?

    They probably have enough evidence on their own but they haven't done anything with it.

    So Mike tells you everything and you think you will go to law enforcement and bring the whole thing down. Good luck with that.
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  7. Tanchi

    Tanchi Patron with Honors

    If I were a man, I think I would have a problem letting the person who called my wife a prostitute on his blog, back on this board. Not to mention implying they manipulated Franks. It's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff with Alanzo.
  8. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    That's fair.
  9. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Why are you ignoring questions directed at you?

    You keep ignoring the question about what YOU would do differently to bring Miscavige down, other than your comment about "focus on the crimes", and "go to law enforcement".

    Many people went to law enforcement. The Tampa Bay Times spoke to 15 of them that talked to FBI agents.
    And that is from just that one federal investigation. It wasn't the only one.

    If you're the former CO OSA INT and you're intent is to bring down Miscavige, how will you handle it if the Feds don't act on the reports of recent crimes? You're highly critical of Rinder's failure to bring down Miscavige, so why don't you lay out in detail how you would go about it.
  10. Alanzo

    Alanzo Bardo Tulpa

    There is no slut shaming here.

    I just posted information that connected the dots between what Karen told me personally on the phone, and what she herself revealed on her LinkedIn page, and those photos, and those emails.

    If you want to see them, go to my blog.

    Much more importantly, Karen is a liar.

    And I will be showing that over the next few weeks.

    You will have an open court to rebuke what I show - right here on ESMB
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
  11. Tanchi

    Tanchi Patron with Honors

    Court. Seriously? Court.
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  13. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    I doubt I have ever seen a more fitting post reply in my life.
  14. The_Fixer

    The_Fixer Class Clown

    I kinda saw it that way too.

    I was also waiting with bated breath to see how soon this all was going south....

    Looks like I didn't get time to take the popcorn out.
  15. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Here's the big question for Alonzo:

    "Do you oppose the Church of Scientology as being a group which is destructive to the well being of most of its members?"

    We're fine with Free Zone people. Friends of David Miscavige have no business being here.
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  16. xenusdad

    xenusdad Patron with Honors

    Oh dear. The answer is rather obvious. Alanzo, go ask Mike Rinder your questions. Nobody else need bother to answer as all the questions are as to what Mike did or didn't say, think or do, they really ought to be addressed to him. And nobody else.
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  17. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Not being a GOT fan I have not a clue what that represents except a battle. I just don't watch it, not that there is anything particularly wrong with it.
  18. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    The dragon queen is telling her dragon to "burn it down". It's funny because my avatar is the same dragon queen, and I imagine that's what people think I'm doing to ESMB.

    Well I thought it was funny anyway.
  19. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    You kind of alluded to this in your Emma's gone Mad post that you're sick of both SCientology and Anti Scientology and no one wants to take the board.

    I guess Alanzo is a perfect pick with Musical Threads.
  20. Emma

    Emma Con te partirò Administrator

    True. But I don't want to burn it down. Go out with a bang maybe.