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shanic89

Patron Meritorious
Hello Emma

First off I think that there has been some serious over kill in sending armed police to recover hard drives, I would look into who gave that particular order and then make it public knowledge.

Second I am a software developer and have friends in the computer forensic field here in New Zealand. If you wish I can ask who would be good for you to contact over there to see what advice they can give you.

Stay strong.
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Why has Emma been arrested and David Miscavige is walking around free?? incorrect info no arrest, no charge, just investigation - administrator

Law enforcement can search a family's house, take their computers away, haul a mother down to be arrested before she can take her daughter to school, but David Miscavige, WITH DOZENS OF PEOPLE ILLEGALLY UNDER FALSE ARREST, DEFRAUDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, COERCING WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS, DESTROYING FAMILIES THROUGH ENFORCED DISCONNECTION...

He walks around in designer jets, free.

Nice world we live in.

Time to change it.
 
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Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Reporting for duty, Sir!

This isn't a billion year contract, or some nebluous and foggy "clear the Planet" crusade.

No.

This campaign has one finite VFP:

David Miscavige arrested, tried, and convicted in a court of law.

Then we all go home and enjoy our lives right here, as humans, on Planet Earth, with one less criminal walking around.
 

OliviaZero

Patron with Honors
Much love and support going out to you, Emma. It totally sucks, but I hope this shitstorm will pass over soon. <3
 
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Terril park

Sponsor
Why has Emma been ... edited... and David Miscavige is walking around free??

Law enforcement can search a family's house, take their computers away, haul a mother down to be arrested before she can take her daughter to school, but David Miscavige, WITH DOZENS OF PEOPLE ILLEGALLY UNDER FALSE ARREST, DEFRAUDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, COERCING WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS, DESTROYING FAMILIES THROUGH ENFORCED DISCONNECTION...

He walks around in designer jets, free.

Nice world we live in.

Time to change it.

Good post!
 

hartley

Patron with Honors
On the 2008 DDOSing:

DDOSing is using special programs to keep sending requests for webpages, pictures etc to a website in such numbers that the server is unable to cope and either crashes or has to shut down. Think of everyone in town trying to buy a Big Mac at the same time. It should not be confused with 'hacking', which involves getting past passwords and security systems to steal stuff and/or cause disruption.

The Anonymous DDOS in Jan 2008 was not a massive one, it disrupted scientology.org etc for a short while. The CoS quickly hired a reputable security company and put their websites behind a firewall.

By that time the Old Guard had condemned the DDOS, notably via a YouTube video by Mark Bunker. Neither the CoS nor the Old Guard had resorted to attacking each other this way because it would have been bad publicity.

Since then the FBI have been pursuing the perps, and IIRC three have so far been caught and convicted, all of whom said they were not the organisers.
The DDOSing would not have been done by many people, obviously the Anonymous who joined the cause afterwards were not responsible for it.

There was no indication that anyone other than Anonymous from the Chan boards were responsible. On the contrary, both the cult and its critics appeared to be taken totally by surprise by the appearance of Anonymous.

Plus, lots of sympathy for Emma and family. With Scientology, always expect the unexpected!
 

Feral

Rogue male
Hartley wrote;

On the 2008 DDOSing:

DDOSing is using special programs to keep sending requests for webpages, pictures etc to a website in such numbers that the server is unable to cope and either crashes or has to shut down. Think of everyone in town trying to buy a Big Mac at the same time. It should not be confused with 'hacking', which involves getting past passwords and security systems to steal stuff and/or cause disruption.

The Anonymous DDOS in Jan 2008 was not a massive one, it disrupted scientology.org etc for a short while. The CoS quickly hired a reputable security company and put their websites behind a firewall.

By that time the Old Guard had condemned the DDOS, notably via a YouTube video by Mark Bunker. Neither the CoS nor the Old Guard had resorted to attacking each other this way because it would have been bad publicity.

Since then the FBI have been pursuing the perps, and IIRC three have so far been caught and convicted, all of whom said they were not the organisers.
The DDOSing would not have been done by many people, obviously the Anonymous who joined the cause afterwards were not responsible for it.

There was no indication that anyone other than Anonymous from the Chan boards were responsible. On the contrary, both the cult and its critics appeared to be taken totally by surprise by the appearance of Anonymous.

Plus, lots of sympathy for Emma and family. With Scientology, always expect the unexpected!



Hardly a destructive crime when you put it that way Hartley.

I know an Anon was sentenced in the US for that attack.

But why?

Is it more serious, than .. say imprisoning your staff for months or years because they want to quit, or forcing your staff to work around the clock on beans and rice?

What about forcing newly married teenagers to have abortions?

Is it harmful like that, or say fraud, or assault?

I don't know much about computers so I want to know why Detectives and the FBI are concerned about DDOSing.

What's the actual harm in DDOSing?
 
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TheSneakster

Guest
Why has Emma been ... and David Miscavige is walking around free??

Law enforcement can search a family's house, take their computers away, haul a mother down to be arrested before she can take her daughter to school, but David Miscavige, WITH DOZENS OF PEOPLE ILLEGALLY UNDER FALSE ARREST, DEFRAUDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, COERCING WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS, DESTROYING FAMILIES THROUGH ENFORCED DISCONNECTION...

He walks around in designer jets, free.

Nice world we live in.

Time to change it.

On this, we can agree. :thumbsup:
 
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Carmel

Crusader
Why has Emma been .... and David Miscavige is walking around free??

Law enforcement can search a family's house, take their computers away, haul a mother down to be arrested before she can take her daughter to school, but David Miscavige, WITH DOZENS OF PEOPLE ILLEGALLY UNDER FALSE ARREST, DEFRAUDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, COERCING WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS, DESTROYING FAMILIES THROUGH ENFORCED DISCONNECTION...

He walks around in designer jets, free.

Nice world we live in.

Time to change it.
Yep, bloody infuriating!

Mind you, the "law enforcement" which did *this* isn't a "law enforcement" which has jurisdiction over DM..........It's a shame that the bastard wasn't in Oz (it'd be him at the cop shop, not Emma), but his time will come.

I've no doubt that this will all turn out to an advantage, but at such huge expense to Emma and her family.......Horrid stuff!

Boxing gloves are out of the cupboard this end, and the wraps are on......Just waiting for the nod.
 
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