Thanks Albert. A fat older guy. That's respectable enough. He might then still be on post.
Mike Ellis was IJC a few months ago anyway. it'd be interesting to know if he's a fat old guy or a pimply teen. Just for curiosity sake.
Zinj
Thanks Albert. A fat older guy. That's respectable enough. He might then still be on post.
Mike Ellis was IJC a few months ago anyway. it'd be interesting to know if he's a fat old guy or a pimply teen. Just for curiosity sake.
Zinj
Uhm... I thought Albert just told you the answer: a fat older guy. Is there more than one Mike Ellis?
Not to be too sceptical, but, I don't know Albert Or, if there is more than one Mike Ellis.
I'm thinking back to earlier discussions as to the Ellis family etc. and just recognizing conflicting data.
Anyway, either there will be confirmation, one way ot the other, or there won't, and, I'm not in a huge rush.
Zinj
Hi Chuck,
Per my data, which is very recent, there are 6,500 SO members worldwide. The number of recruits could be up to 500 per year (meaning those who sign the SO contract whether they ever arrive or not, although my personal guess would be its closer to 250. I didn't have much to do with recruitment lines and don't know the actual stats.). Probably 100 of them stay for any length of time. Based on these estimates, I would say your guess that there is 35,000 ex-SO is pretty accurate.
With some 55,000 active Scientologists, it won't be too long until there will be more ex-SO in the world than active Scientologists.
Would that be the "break" part of the make-or-break point?
If you include the ex-Mission and ex-Org staff, plus ex-public that did major courses - the numbers out would greatly exceed the numbers in.
When you also realize - in destroying the Mission and Field Auditor network in 1982 - you destroyed the major source of the masters of ARC break handling of the public.
Thus the amount of upset with Scio people is in the 100,000s - at least 500,000 - just my network of ex-staff and ex-students exceeds 250,000.
This amounts to an incredible counter-force to the future of Scio.
Too make matters worse the SO recruitment is composed mainly of completely unhatted new people.
It is an incredible mess of long-term lousy destructive idiotic leadership.
Alan
I found when working in Scientology & even today that it is an established bureaucracy having a central administration with dominating officials. The bureaucracy of Scientology is full of red tape requiring having rigid controls over the churches & franchises around the world keeping staff members in their places or posts. It has a big brother purpose always looking out for what threatens the religion never seeing how the religion itself as a bureaucracy is a threat to its own members. The policies of Scientology are its political purpose policed by its ethics police. In more simple terms Scientology is a control freak requiring controlling the lives & purpose of its members. This shows a tendency to be paranoiac in safeguarding the grand illusion of its purpose of world salvation. As with all bureaucracies despite all their laws & regulations & policies they are an administrative confusion never having their civil servants ever doing their posts properly always overwhelmed by the excessive red tape that underlines their positions. Always looking out for enemies that can threaten their survival not ever understanding that by their bureaucratic tendencies they continue being the enemy. The reason I personally would not like Scientology to become in a position of power as it has inherrantly been established is that it can easily become a greater oppressive totalatarian bureaucracy. As with civil servants in a bureaucracy the continual turnover of staff & members in Scientology is how it expects their staff & members to give total loyalty, obedience & service to its bureaucracy without giving the same loyalty & service to its staff & members.
I flicked through a few of these pics... amazing, there is not one person even coming close to smiling (if you find one, let me know... it must be very bad in to look as unhappy as these people)
Well, it's true... these poor people do not look like happy campers.
No doubt, a few years back, these folks were smiling.... feeling all spacey after a few potent therapy sessions.... all those endorphins racing through their system.
Now years later... It's pretty sad. All these decent folks putting forth their good efforts to a cause that they would laugh at if they the half of what's really going on....
Mike Ellis from 9 December 2008 in Los Angeles:
He is Dramatizing L Ron hubbard !