Elronius of Marcabia
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Depends how you define a Scientologist ?
"one who taps the phone of your wife to break up your marriage" ?
"one who taps the phone of your wife to break up your marriage" ?
380 'Scientologists' in East Grinstead
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strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
Yes, 26,135 out of every 26,136 people in the UK are not scientologists!
Edit: Give or take... I couldn't be bothered with the decimal point in the calculations.
Axiom142
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East Grinstead is a small provincial town - total population (including attached villages) is about 29,000. On the face of it, 380 sounds like a respectable proportion of the total. Most of the staff (Sea Org) live a few miles down the road in Crowborough at the Walshes Manor nesting site, in the Wealden district, where John has very helpfully counted another 361.
741 Scientologists might sound like quite a lot especially in such a sparsely-populated area, until you realise that East Grinstead is cult central. There is no other concentration of Scilons in any other area of the UK.
For the 2001 census, people had the opportunity to enter their ‘religion’ for the first time. Only 1781 stated ‘Scientology’. I’m guessing that this caused a bit of a flap with the cult hierarchy as they were lobbying the Charities Commission for ‘full religious recognition’ around this time and proof that they were lying about having 120,000 members probably didn’t go down very well. I’m sure that a significant number of Scilons didn’t want to declare their cultic allegiance and the true number would be more like 4 - 5,000.
Although I left in 2008 so can’t verify it, I’m willing to bet that OSA actively encouraged all UK Scilons (and remember that this includes all foreign nationals resident in the UK at the time – most of Saint Hill’s customer come from abroad) to declare their allegiance on the census in 2011. So, although the number has apparently gone up in the intervening 10 years (from 1,781 to 2,418), the reality is that there are far fewer Scilons now than there were a decade ago. I’d be surprised if there were much more than 2,500 in the UK now.
Axiom142
741 Scientologists might sound like quite a lot especially in such a sparsely-populated area, until you realise that East Grinstead is cult central. There is no other concentration of Scilons in any other area of the UK.
For the 2001 census, people had the opportunity to enter their ‘religion’ for the first time. Only 1781 stated ‘Scientology’. I’m guessing that this caused a bit of a flap with the cult hierarchy as they were lobbying the Charities Commission for ‘full religious recognition’ around this time and proof that they were lying about having 120,000 members probably didn’t go down very well. I’m sure that a significant number of Scilons didn’t want to declare their cultic allegiance and the true number would be more like 4 - 5,000.
Although I left in 2008 so can’t verify it, I’m willing to bet that OSA actively encouraged all UK Scilons (and remember that this includes all foreign nationals resident in the UK at the time – most of Saint Hill’s customer come from abroad) to declare their allegiance on the census in 2011. So, although the number has apparently gone up in the intervening 10 years (from 1,781 to 2,418), the reality is that there are far fewer Scilons now than there were a decade ago. I’d be surprised if there were much more than 2,500 in the UK now.
Axiom142
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
And those mailing lists probably include people who died 30+ years ago.
At an org I was at, there was never any money to do an "address correction" mailing (where the post office notifies the sender if the mail recipient moved or the mail is undeliverable). I would guess that a large percentage of the address list was no good.
But actually deleting the bad addresses would reduce the size of the mailing list, and lower the "bulk mail out" statistic. Can't have that.
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
If you want to have some fun, go to the Scientology org locator at www.scientology.org/churches/locator.html
and get a list of orgs and missions. Try actually calling a few during normal business hours and see how many actually have anybody answering the phone. Or where the numbers even are in service.
ThetanExterior
Gold Meritorious Patron
If someone does answer the phone, tell them you want the abilities of a Clear, as defined in the Dianetics book, and ask how much it will cost.
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Enthetan
Master of Disaster
If someone does answer the phone, tell them you want the abilities of a Clear, as defined in the Dianteics book, and ask how much it will cost.
Nah, they will just tell you to come in for a tech estimate. The question fits the patter.
Now, if you ask to speak to somebody there who has ALL the attributes of a Clear, that's another story.
strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
New Scn Documentary
Advance notice! I've just seen a trailer for a documentary on Scientology to be broadcast next Monday (24th) at 9.00pm on Channel 5. I don't know anything else about it, I just caught the trailer while watching the Test Match highlights.
Advance notice! I've just seen a trailer for a documentary on Scientology to be broadcast next Monday (24th) at 9.00pm on Channel 5. I don't know anything else about it, I just caught the trailer while watching the Test Match highlights.
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Panda Termint
Cabal Of One
ThetanExterior
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Re: New Scn Documentary
Yeah, I saw the trailer. It's about Scientology and also Jehovah's Witnesses.
I think the title is: "Inside Scientology and Escaping Witnesses".
Yeah, I saw the trailer. It's about Scientology and also Jehovah's Witnesses.
I think the title is: "Inside Scientology and Escaping Witnesses".
strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
Maybe Elron was telling the truth after all...
Source
View attachment 11134
Note: This publication is registered as a 'newspaper'. I never buy it or read it, but if the above is what it is selling, the owners should be prosecuted under the 'Trade Descriptions Act' IMO.
Actually looking at those headlines I might just buy a copy for the shits and giggles.
strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
Why do that? Just click on the link and save yerself a quid or whatever they charge for their horrible rag!
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
Why do that? Just click on the link and save yerself a quid or whatever they charge for their horrible rag!
That's 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
The science section is even weirder than the weird section. That's one paper that's even worse than I remember from decades ago. Utter bollocks, great dangling ones! But the good news is that I didn't waste money to see photos of ghosts seen in outer space, or any of the other stuff I have already forgotten. People actually buy it and buy it again the next day, perhaps there's no hope for mankind!
The Express is relatively sensible there are worse ones! The Daily Star has a photo of what David Cameron and other politicians would look like with a beard, and they must have spent at least 3 minutes on the photoshopping.
strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
To be quite honest I didn't even bother to read any of it, I simply saw the headline and thought it would make an amusing post.
I think the quality of this 'newspaper' has gone right down the pan. 50 years ago my mother used to read the Daily Express regularily. She was an intelligent woman and wouldn't have wasted her time on it if the paper in those days contained any of the drivel it currently peddles.
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
Stratty you've really changed your image! and back again!
strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
Dolly P. eat yer heart out!
Actually it's just gross. I don't know how long I can keep it as my avvy.
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
Dolly P. eat yer heart out!
Try not to explode!
strativarius
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
It's pretty extreme isn't it? A woman who does that to her body has to be part of some deviant sect no? I know some men do like 'well endowed' ladies, but there's nothing attractive of seductive about her IMO. Simply gross!
For the benefit of readers who chance upon this page when I've reverted back to my standard avatar, this is what L4 and I are talking about.
