Sorry, I had to ask. The term "goals problem mass" was used over and over again by Hubbard when I studied his "tech" but as well as I can recall he never really gave a simple and exact definition of it. I recall on an upper level training film I saw starring lron himself he had a table covered with pieces of modeling clay and I believe he was calling it a GPM. Then he babbled about sitting on a hill top in Greece and seeing some black mass (GPM) in the valleys below. Really. I mean WTF did he expect people to make of that? Was he just making shit up to make fools of one and all as usual? Got to know. Thanks in advance.
Was there ever a specific definition for GPM?
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AnonyMary
Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
This is a good question. I actually happen to have my old Tech Dictionary near my desk because I pulled it out of the storage area to look up a definition of a term I was not sure about anymore because it had been so long.
I went and looked it up and there are 5 definitions in there, which really are not definitions now that I look at them. So 5 examples from different references that are supposed to explain what they are but are really only quotes from him discussing GPMs.
From the gist of what is written, GPMs are supposedly mass that comes from goals one has that are opposed by engram force or valences one has taken on, thus causing a problem. They create mass when the PC tries to reach the goal, whatever it is, thus giving up or letting it take over their thinking. 2 opposing forces that create a mental when the goal is thought of or attempted, especially in auditing from what I gather this is about. ( I don't believe a wit of this when it comes to mental mass but just explaining what I just read)
I will go now to scan and post the 'fair use excerpt' from the Tech Dictionary to this thread so you can see them for yourself.
Ok, here is the best I could do
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You have to click the box and then it opens up for you to see enlarged.
I went and looked it up and there are 5 definitions in there, which really are not definitions now that I look at them. So 5 examples from different references that are supposed to explain what they are but are really only quotes from him discussing GPMs.
From the gist of what is written, GPMs are supposedly mass that comes from goals one has that are opposed by engram force or valences one has taken on, thus causing a problem. They create mass when the PC tries to reach the goal, whatever it is, thus giving up or letting it take over their thinking. 2 opposing forces that create a mental when the goal is thought of or attempted, especially in auditing from what I gather this is about. ( I don't believe a wit of this when it comes to mental mass but just explaining what I just read)
I will go now to scan and post the 'fair use excerpt' from the Tech Dictionary to this thread so you can see them for yourself.
Ok, here is the best I could do
. You have to click the box and then it opens up for you to see enlarged.
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lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Gave a look a the tech dictionnary (I still own)
Goals problem mass:
1- the goals problem mass is made up of past selve or ''valences'' each one grouped and more or less in a group. Therefore, the characteristic of the part (the valence) is the characteristic of the whole, the collection of the valences known as the goals problem mass (HCO PL 17 jan 1962)
2 - What is one of these GPM's anyway but a method of limiting the pc's ability to intend ? And that is the whole idea behind implanting or anything of that nature. The whole idea is that if he intends positive he gets negative. If he intends negative he gets positive. So therefore he cannot decide. That is his mind kicking back at him which is simply a positive\negative proposition there, of two poles.
End of definition.
OMG I'd forgot about that !
Goals problem mass:
1- the goals problem mass is made up of past selve or ''valences'' each one grouped and more or less in a group. Therefore, the characteristic of the part (the valence) is the characteristic of the whole, the collection of the valences known as the goals problem mass (HCO PL 17 jan 1962)
2 - What is one of these GPM's anyway but a method of limiting the pc's ability to intend ? And that is the whole idea behind implanting or anything of that nature. The whole idea is that if he intends positive he gets negative. If he intends negative he gets positive. So therefore he cannot decide. That is his mind kicking back at him which is simply a positive\negative proposition there, of two poles.
End of definition.
OMG I'd forgot about that !
AnonyMary
Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
What year is your Tech Dictionary copyrighted? Mine is 1982 so I must have the Pre-GAT version, lol. Mine had 5 definitions. Take a look at the image I posted before you posted.
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Funny, mine too is also a reprinted 1982 version !
Yes 1982 was pre-GAT !
It was the good old time, when 2d was about sex - not creativity!
:wink2:
Gib
Crusader
You're welcome.
That's why I have in the past posted here after I read the Idenics book during my six month decompression period from Jan to July 2012, and did some research,
why I realized scientology was a hellvahoax. Of course, that is now coupled with what I know of Rhetoric by Aristotle,
and the law of land of our USA.
AnonyMary
Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Funny, mine too is also a reprinted 1982 version !
Yes 1982 was pre-GAT !
It was the good old time, when 2d was about sex - not creativity!
:wink2:
You are too funny!! LOL! Yes they were good times, then there was the Mission Holders Massacre and Int Finance Police in Los Angeles and world wide at some point. Maybe you were lucky to miss all that where you were.
My dictonary is the 6th printing ( done in 1982 ) of the 1975 Original published text. Maybe you got a new 1982 first edition print?
Also, thought I would ask, is yours in English or your native language?
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
You are too funny!! LOL! Yes they were good times, then there was the Mission Holders Massacre and Int Finance Police in Los Angeles and world wide at some point. Maybe you were lucky to miss all that where you were.
My dictonary is the 6th printing ( done in 1982 ) of the 1975 Original published text. Maybe you got a new 1982 first edition print?
Also, thought I would ask, is yours in English or your native language?
1) The good times is when you are handled, investigated, outed comm eved and punished for having commited ,at least something funny
(50 shades of gray in the Sea argh)
2) Anonmary, I came in $cientology via a mission. I wrote about it in a previous post last week. The mission massacre had hit us later, but I have a perfect recall of how the wonderfull mission holder had been busted like an SP.
Then, everything had changed as we'd see the true face of $cientology!
3) Mine was bought beetween 1982-1983, and is in english. The exact year of first publication is not written - only the copyrights. :confused2:
JustSheila
Crusader
Oh yeh, the good times. The university and establishing career, family, relationships, stability and life plans blown to pieces by bling, fraud, smiling faces, fake science, empty promises, long hours and slave treatment, separation from my child and imprisonment on the RPF while living on a shoelace.
Oh but it all looked so good running in circles on the track to nowhere! What scenery!
Kind of like the high life of the lost years, health and relationships of a heroin addict. Good times. Sure. If that's the way you want to view it. :confused2:
Oh but it all looked so good running in circles on the track to nowhere! What scenery!
Kind of like the high life of the lost years, health and relationships of a heroin addict. Good times. Sure. If that's the way you want to view it. :confused2:
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
I just tried to figure out how one $cientologist can be loyal to LRH's source ethics tech
The Second Dynamic
In Hubbard's original Dynamics, "Sex" was the Second Dynamic, representing both the sexual act and the family unit.
while not refuting COB's new ethics tek
In the Life Orientation Course (written in 1979 before Hubbard's death but published after in 1990), the definition replaced "Sex" with "Creativity". This new definition was later used in compiled materials such as the 1998 Introduction to Scientology Ethics. According to a statement made by the Church of Scientology to MSNBC, pre-marital sex is prohibited for Scientologists who are members of the organization's elite order, the Sea Org.[3]
It's a bit challenging though...why not make a creative amalgamate , spicing it with a little pain and sex ???
Pain and Sex
In 1982 Hubbard authored Pain and Sex, in which he ascribes misbehavior to psychiatrists (abbreviated "psychs"), [4] in that under the "false data of the psychs ... both pain and sex are gaining ground in this society and, coupled with robbery (which is a hooded companion of both), may very well soon make the land a true jungle of crime". Beyond this, in this same bulletin, Hubbard states that pain and sex are both "invented tools of degradation" by "destructive creatures" with the intention "to shrink people and cut their alertness, knowingness, power and reach". [4]
Therefore, the definition of 2D, had competely been revised. Here is the GAOT II new release of 2D activities, including all three aspects: Sex - creativity and pain and sex
Fifty shades of 2D
The Second Dynamic
In Hubbard's original Dynamics, "Sex" was the Second Dynamic, representing both the sexual act and the family unit.
while not refuting COB's new ethics tek
In the Life Orientation Course (written in 1979 before Hubbard's death but published after in 1990), the definition replaced "Sex" with "Creativity". This new definition was later used in compiled materials such as the 1998 Introduction to Scientology Ethics. According to a statement made by the Church of Scientology to MSNBC, pre-marital sex is prohibited for Scientologists who are members of the organization's elite order, the Sea Org.[3]
It's a bit challenging though...why not make a creative amalgamate , spicing it with a little pain and sex ???
Pain and Sex
In 1982 Hubbard authored Pain and Sex, in which he ascribes misbehavior to psychiatrists (abbreviated "psychs"), [4] in that under the "false data of the psychs ... both pain and sex are gaining ground in this society and, coupled with robbery (which is a hooded companion of both), may very well soon make the land a true jungle of crime". Beyond this, in this same bulletin, Hubbard states that pain and sex are both "invented tools of degradation" by "destructive creatures" with the intention "to shrink people and cut their alertness, knowingness, power and reach". [4]
Therefore, the definition of 2D, had competely been revised. Here is the GAOT II new release of 2D activities, including all three aspects: Sex - creativity and pain and sex
Fifty shades of 2D
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arcxcauseblows
Patron Meritorious
demystify the gpm!
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Scientology_Goals_Problems_Mass_recording
amusing in that lecture he says something like oh cigarettes don't cause cancer
more gpm stuff on these, it's all over the place
http://www.matrixfiles.com/Scientology Materials/index.php?dir=Tapes&Lect+chrono/6303C28+GPM-Tapes/
http://www.stss.nl/stss-materials/index.php
what are the processes and where are they on the bridge?
there's some historical drama too I think before the processes got ironed out they were making some people absolutely freak out
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Scientology_Goals_Problems_Mass_recording
amusing in that lecture he says something like oh cigarettes don't cause cancer
more gpm stuff on these, it's all over the place
http://www.matrixfiles.com/Scientology Materials/index.php?dir=Tapes&Lect+chrono/6303C28+GPM-Tapes/
http://www.stss.nl/stss-materials/index.php
what are the processes and where are they on the bridge?
there's some historical drama too I think before the processes got ironed out they were making some people absolutely freak out
Nah, I prefer to google Global Porn Market instead. Then the search engine results may have at least SOME sort of value.
Yes, I can't argue with that. I'm sure porn is of inestimably more value to you than anything that requires the application of brains.
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Brain is a MEST consideration!
Therefore, it can be postulated to operate from and within any piece of the meat body, within the head, or down under the belt!
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Considerations are postulates!
Some wog's people's brain, located under the belt are usually of more value for a society, than the true believer $cientologist or the true believer galactic patrol member's brain...These , may be often, a MEST brain remotely operated by either one of the 2 lunatics megalomaniacs...Such brains have been re-shaped to accomplish the narcissist means in reaching lunatics and\or malignants goals for mankind: Saving planet earth while enslaving\destroying human beings !
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Brain is a MEST consideration!
Therefore, it can be postulated to operate from and within any piece of the meat body, within the head, or down under the belt!
:confused2:
Considerations are postulates!
Some wog's people's brain, located under the belt are usually of more value for a society, than the true believer $cientologist or the true believer galactic patrol member's brain...These , may be often, a MEST brain remotely operated by 2 lunatics megalomaniacs...They are shaped to accomplish the narcissist means in reaching lunatics and\or malignants goals for mankind: Saving planet earth while enslaving\destroying human beings !
OMG!!!
You could start a religion with that! What are you waiting for?