Big Blue & bright colors from the 70s

[cakemaker]

Old sign - new sign

 

[Dulloldfart]

The first pic I personally took in 2004, my last year in LA. I didn't take that second pic, but I labelled it 2009. Did that ugly framework and shroud really sit up there like that for 5 years or more?



Paul

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Old sign - new sign

Old sign. . .

New sign. . .

Newest sign. . .

(Hey, just validatin' whose
postulates are the most at "cause")​

 

[cakemaker]

Old sign. . .

New sign. . .

Newest sign. . .

(Hey, just validatin' whose
postulates are the most at "cause")​

Or, as some wit said in Tony's blog,

HBO - Bring Order!

 

[MissWog]

The first pic I personally took in 2004, my last year in LA. I didn't take that second pic, but I labelled it 2009. Did that ugly framework and shroud really sit up there like that for 5 years or more?

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Paul

According to Curbed LA they were up for many many years!

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Yes.

He was seen a couple of years ago, but still trapped on some RPF someplace.

Even if he wanted to be there the negative PR is unrecoverable. Leave a mystery that huge and people will fill the gaps in on their own, etc. etc.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

That would be in the SHSBC courserooms on the second floor of ASHO then. It still had the glass between the rooms of the nursery, separating the theory and practical sections of the course. It was still there because the place was so solidly built that it was impossible to do any but superficial renovations. Not sure where the delivery room was, though.

AS for the colours. As I heard it, the original LRH advices for the colours were for graphics to be painted in PALE pastels. The idea was from a certain interior designer at the time. It was indeed to de-hospitalize it. And apparently the guy who did the paint order screwed up royally and ordered paint way too dark, and got RPF'd for it. An estates person told me this. The story rings true for me.

As we were repainting ASHO about 1990, we put a layer of sealer/under coat on the 4th floor hallway over the original graphics. A bit of the colour showed through. In the few hours before the new colour was applied, many people came up the stairs and exclaimed how beautiful it looked with just the hint of colours showing through......graphics in pale pastels. And it really did.

Very informative! So ASHO's interior was repainted circa 1990. That is a solid 10 years later. I was under the impression that it was done sooner. Was the original guy that designed the colors and graphics RPFed for specifying the colors too dark or was it someone down the purchasing line who botched the order?

ASHO was only the 2nd org to get painted so why did they keep using the wrong colors on AOLA and other places for so long if it was clearly against LRH's orders to use pastels?

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Yes, for the first time ever that building makes sense to me.
It is a logical design for a hospital and it doesn't look at all intimidating.

Also, I have learned on this thread that the most photographed entrance is not the entrance we used.
This has been confusing me for years. Forever asking myself why I would not remember those
smothering arms.

It is the equivalent of using the Service Entrance at the Fort Harrison as the Main entry. The saga continues.......

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

I don't understand why they buy all these buildings and equip 'em with all this glitzy pseudo-bling anyway.

Wouldn't tents be so much more practical?

The flash point for the Lutheran split from the Catholic Church was their selling of indulgences to fund renovating the Sistine Chapel.

http://protestantreformationnhd.weebly.com/sale-of-indulgences.html

The Gutenberg printing press was being used as the first quick print franchise to mass produce indulgences all over Europe. Martin Luther recognized the power of the press and turned them toward printing material which facilitated the reformation.

The Gutenberg press made possible the cross indexing of information and technology from diverse fields of study which increased technological advancements exponentially. This was in effect the beginnings of the industrial age and then the information age and the internet.

Now the internet is being used to disseminate material which will lead to a reformation of Scientology.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Old sign - new sign

Thank you for providing the side-by-side.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

According to Curbed LA they were up for many many years!

The sign was originally ordered to be there by LRH but it is under new management now. Anything is possible.

 

[Lulu Belle]

Any discussion of the Complex always ends up in the tunnels. It is true. A person can live in there and get from one place to the next 3-4 different ways without ever stepping outside.

The tunnels were a salvation for a lot of the staff.

Me included.

A way to slip out of the org and to your room to get some sleep without execs/missionaires/whoever stopping you from leaving the org.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

That would be in the SHSBC courserooms on the second floor of ASHO then. It still had the glass between the rooms of the nursery, separating the theory and practical sections of the course. It was still there because the place was so solidly built that it was impossible to do any but superficial renovations. Not sure where the delivery room was, though.

AS for the colours. As I heard it, the original LRH advices for the colours were for graphics to be painted in PALE pastels. The idea was from a certain interior designer at the time. It was indeed to de-hospitalize it. And apparently the guy who did the paint order screwed up royally and ordered paint way too dark, and got RPF'd for it. An estates person told me this. The story rings true for me.

As we were repainting ASHO about 1990, we put a layer of sealer/under coat on the 4th floor hallway over the original graphics. A bit of the colour showed through. In the few hours before the new colour was applied, many people came up the stairs and exclaimed how beautiful it looked with just the hint of colours showing through......graphics in pale pastels. And it really did.

[h=2]

Re: Various pics of Scientology in the 80s and 90s, unpublished, until now...[/h]

AOLA 1981 (or there about) LRH Comm Len Adams Doris (?) In doorway had a surprise birthday party for Chaplin Roberta Fields (75?). Renne Duzak is looking in doorway 2nd picture with Dan Woodruff on right. Bottom right on bottom right is Denise Mulkey. ​

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...npublished-until-now/page33&highlight=chaplin

Thread #324
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The above post by Cece is the only example I could find of the original bright interior color scheme but you can see the yellow wall on the left and the darker orange to the right of the door. Clearly these do not qualify as "pastel". It says the picture was from AOLA 1981.

As an aside; I was around there enough times to be familiar with what was happening overall during this period and I did know Roberta Fields and visa versa. I understand she passed away and I just wanted to say that she was one of the kindest ladies I ever met.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Old sign. . .

New sign. . .

Newest sign. . .

(Hey, just validatin' whose
postulates are the most at "cause")​

............

 

[eldritch cuckoo]

http://priceonomics.com/why-every-movie-looks-sort-of-orange-and-blue/
Maybe you haven’t noticed, but in the past 20-or-so years there’s been a real catchy trend in major Hollywood movies to constrain the palette to orange and blue. The color scheme, also known as “orange and teal” or “amber and teal” is the scourge of film critics – one of whom calls this era of cinema a “dark age.”


thats our Ron, ahead of his time in heralding in a new dark age.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

And these are just taken from this week's "Thursday Funnies" from Mike Rinder's blog!


"What has been seen...!"

... Ever!

 

[eldritch cuckoo]

Hey, OriginalBigBlue, you need a face (or at least a facade)!

Feel free to pick one of these.


(The broken logo pics are taken from a graphic on Angry Gay Pope's website.)

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

Hey, OriginalBigBlue, you need a face (or at least a facade)!

Feel free to pick one of these.


(The broken logo pics are taken from a graphic on Angry Gay Pope's website.)

In the parlance we call this a "nudge".

Thank you for the suggestions.

 

[eldritch cuckoo]

In the parlance we call this a "nudge".

Thank you for the suggestions.

LOL... not really. Okay, maybe?? Many people here have no "avi", although I would prefer if they had one, because with newbies coming in quickly for some time now, and several similar sounding nicknames "SP-something" (and an equally toxic attitude towards Co$... LOL), I sometimes find it difficult to discern between all these dudes, if there's no pic... I was just thinking since you seem to have a favorite "theme" (or obsession?), and there are some nice pictures available... go figure.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

LOL... not really. Okay, maybe?? Many people here have no "avi", although I would prefer if they had one, because with newbies coming in quickly for some time now, and several similar sounding nicknames "SP-something" (and an equally toxic attitude towards Co$... LOL), I sometimes find it difficult to discern between all these dudes, if there's no pic... I was just thinking since you seem to have a favorite "theme" (or obsession?), and there are some nice pictures available... go figure.

I completely got it. It finally occurred to me that an Avatar serves a very important purpose to facilitating thread navigation and not having one was creating an inconvenience.

Yes, the theme, or obsession as it were is deliberate. I am intrigued with the complete lack of logic when it came to the Complex. Not just in the past but consistently.

 

[TheOriginalBigBlue]

No.

They painted it originally.

They sandblasted and stained in the early 90s.

They painted LA Org later.

You mentioned that Big Blue was sandblasted. 87% of homes built before 1940 contain lead based paint. Lead content was reduced in paint in 1950 and in 1978 but Cedars was built in 1930. There is a strong likely hood that the paint used by the hospital for both interior and exterior was a high level lead based paint. I have been told by a testing lab that the regulatory limit for paint is 5000 ppm. Tests that I have had done on latex paint as recent as 1972 were between 11,000 to 24,000 ppm. Regulatory levels for soil are 50 ppm. Over that and it must be handled as haz waste. Regulatory levels for dust vary depending on where it is. I think for an occupied unit, window sills are around 2 ppm.

It would be very interesting to see an environmental lead survey of the fallout zone around Big Blue. If the RPF performed this work in the typical "Make it go right" modus operandi without proper dust containment then there could be a distinctive pattern consistent with wind directionality and concentration levels leading back to the complex. Proving a source from dust sampling is difficult because there are other sources, such as the fact that L.A. has a high level of background contamination due to decades of leaded gasoline use. But those could probably be distinguished from the sandblasting project if the fallout pattern was distinctive and a finer analysis of the particulates could clearly confirm Cedar's paint.

This could be grounds for a class action lawsuit by the city and surrounding community. If such a judgement was won or even settled against the Church, this might serve as a strong precedent for other communities where illegal lead abatement projects might have been conducted. The many bureaucracies and lawyers involved with lead paint issues are not very responsive for little stuff but this could be just the kind of thing to get the attention of the larger environmental legal firms and agencies. They are geared towards large commercial and industrial violations.

Just for the record, I am not an attorney and I am not a professional in the field of environmental engineering or hazardous material handling or abatement. I am only expressing my personal opinion.

http://www2.epa.gov/lead/documents-and-outreach-materials

http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/fa/hs/leadpaint.asp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead-based_paint_in_the_United_States