Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking

[ILove2Lurk]

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Didn't Rinder work for a time selling an ice-making device for hospitals, for a company which was owned by a former Scientologist?

<snip>

Also, when Rinder first left, I think he got a job selling Toyotas in Buffalo, NY.

<snip>

True dat! Remember the video where Mike Rinder got ambushed inside a medical equipment trade show in Florida by one of the Squirrel Busters™, who moments earlier had dived into a dumpster to retreive a discarded trade show pass. Was hauled away by security.

True dat! First I heard of Mike working was at a Toyota dealership just north of downtown Denver. Yingling and her SO posse visited him in Denver and attempted to offer him at least $5 million, maybe upwards to $10 million, to keep quiet and sign away his rights forever. Mike demurred and sent them packing.

 

[skep]

Mike Rinder responds to Marty:

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-videos/

 

[strativarius]

Damn! With all those SPs around it's no wonder I blew in Morocco!

I was going to make a smart-ass comment about the guys in Morocco but it was in very poor taste so I decided against it.

 

[Victoria]

Douchebag.

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

Maybe it is "striking an effective blow to the enemy." It could also be his A to E step B or step B2. What he is doing fits those ethics actions.

Another of those Scientology dichotomies "we are the most ethical organization on the planet" vs. " tell them a shore story"

These are his acceptable truths. After all, reality is what is real for you.

Lies? Lies? We ain't got no stinkin' lies.
Mimsey

 

[Lurker5]

Rinder responds - again - with ultimate class.

 

[Lurker5]

Haven't watched since about 7 or 8 - and this is based on what others have said: Maybe Marty should have done his big 'reveal' in an earlier video, when people were still watching . . . .

The stuff M says about Rinder seems to me to be pure 'projection' . . . Marty your 'envy' is showing.

Really sad.

 

[Tanchi]

Since I'm never-in, and don't know anyone personally, I don't comment much.

The things MR says about Remini, Rinder, Wright and Ortega are chillingly similar to the hate/smear sites COS put up about them. Imo. Did he always blink so much? Ummm...
Oh well, just sayin!

 

[ExposedPerfidy]

A few thoughts:

1) Rathbun alleges that each member of the supposed troika secretly holds the other two troika members in contempt. I consider Rathbun's claims dubious to begin with, but for argument's sake let's suppose that he's telling the truth. What significance does this info have? What interest does the public have in knowing that Rinder (supposedly) holds Remini in low esteem? Can Rathbun justify publishing information which was probably told with the expectation that it would be kept private? And to think that Rathbun has the chutzpah to call Aftermath "tabloid trash".
2) The story of Tony Ortega, even when presented by Rathbun, makes him (Ortega) sound like the opposite of someone motivated by money. Ortega goes after Scientology, Scientology goes out after his place of employment. If Ortega was such a greedy man wouldn't he have avoided criticzing Sceintology? Considering that Scientology often tries to bankrupt its critics, I'd say that becoming a public critic of Scientology is a pretty stupid way to make money. If Rathbun is to be believed, after leaving the Village Voice Ortega recieved a payout that allowed him to avoid work for two years. So why did Ortega started working for Raw Story in 2013, just one year after leaving the Voice in 2012?
3) As pointed out by others here, Rinder did work in jobs unrelated to Scientology since he got out. But more to the point, Rinder was initially very reluctant about criticizing the church publicly. He blew in 2007 and didn't speak publicly as a critic up until the Truth Rundwon in 2009. Initially he agreed to speak with those reporters only off the record. This is not the behavior of someone looking to make money by being a Scientology critic.

 

[Karen#1]

Since the 1980s...I am particularly knowledgeable about this with my 5.5 years at OSA INT as Heber Jentzsch's assistant....

The battlecry of Scientology slung at all critics.....for some 35 years is....


1) They are only criticizing for money $$$. They are only attacking for money $$$$

2) There are only more or less 3 top dogs creating all the problem. No such thing as hundreds ~~ even thousands ~~of individual stories. It is all controlled by 3 WHO's

This has been the Scientology response through the ages.....decades....

I am convinced that Marty actually believes his own Narratives. If he thinks these videos will make one iota of difference to Scientology being exposed ~~ he has the intelligence of a grasshopper.
​

 

[Lulu Belle]

Since the 1980s...I am particularly knowledgeable about this with my 5.5 years at OSA INT as Heber Jentzsch's assistant....

The battlecry of Scientology slung at all critics.....for some 35 years is....


1) They are only criticizing for money $$$. They are only attacking for money $$$$

2) There are only more or less 3 top dogs creating all the problem. No such thing as hundreds of individual stories. It is all controlled by 3 WHO's

This has been the Scientology response through the ages.....decades....

I am convinced that Marty actually believes his own Narratives. If he thinks these videos will make one iota of difference to Scientology being exposed ~~ he has the intelligence of a grasshopper.
​

So, Karen,

I'm interested in your opinion.

Why do you think Marty is doing this? Do you think there's money involved?

 

[WildKat]

Mike Rinder responds to Marty:

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/marty-rathbuns-videos/

I think it's worth posting this excerpt from the above link to Mike Rinder's blog post:

"....Marty is rewriting history (much of which he wrote himself in his earlier versions of events), recounting things that never happened and assigning motives to people that appear to be the fruits of his imagination. And he is laughably trying to create upset between me, Leah and Tony Ortega as if any of us would believe him. Beyond that I am not going to dignify his craziness with specific responses. And I still don’t have any information that sheds light on WHY he is doing what he is doing.

"That being said, I sincerely believe Marty should seek professional help. He has lost touch with reality. He appears delusional and is convinced the spiders he sees all over the walls are real — and that it is his duty to earnestly explain his imaginary spiders to the world. I am saddened to watch it happening, wishing there was something I could do to help him, like he once helped me."

Thank you for finally commenting, Mike Rinder! Supports what most of us have been seeing or sensing.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

.

--snipped--

Why do you think Marty is doing this?

ANSWER: The same reason he did this. . .

An Ode to L Ron Hubbard
by Mark "Marty" Rathbun

You said your legacy would be the tech
but the dictator said otherwise
and the church began its demise
and hurt came to those who would object

You said there was no hidden data line
but the dictator said he knew better
and burned all of your policy letters
and the church went into long term decline

You said the tech was timeless and free
but the dictator wanted power and cash
and made your truth a confusing hash
and status and greed replaced the state of OT

You acknowledged the loyalty of your gracious wife
but the dictator used her as a stepping stone
and she died forgotten, friendless and alone
and thus he erased your dear Manuela from your life

You raised three fine children and one who died too soon
but the dictator wanted them forgotten too
and your progeny turned from sunshine to blue
and the many who loved you wept under a sorrowful moon

You had faith that your friends would make it come out right
but the dictator mis-used your treasure to enervate them
and black dianetics, reverse scientology internecine mayhem
and with violence did he destroy their willingness to fight

You said only truth could penetrate thick armor plate
and though the dictator protested this fact
it was your ace in the hole that has our back
and everyday now more are working to reverse your fate

And alas, it may take time and a perilous struggle
but we assure you it is too late to reverse our tide
you’ve got friends to the end of time on your side
and come hell or high water we’ll emerge from this jungle

Because we know you were right that the truth shall set us free
and that is one thing no dictator will ever take away
it will be your real friends standing at the end of day
humanity freed, the only proper acknowledgment of thee



​

ANSWER (Part II): Because every single line of that malodorously odious ode is a sanctimoniously condescending, hypocritical lie---from back in the day (2011) when Rathbun was just practicing & getting warmed up.

Six years later (2017)he was finally confident and "loose" enough to fully "demonstrate" the first line of the final stanza ("Because we know you were right that the truth shall set us free") by unleashing "truth" in his Going Clear video lecture series.

Now we finally get to see where Marty was heading all these many years as a loyal KSW officer. To wit, the very same place that Hubbard and Miscavige arrived at long before him--a destination jammed with wall-to-wall "shore stories", "acceptable truths, "TR-L", "manufactured" evidence and countless fair-gaming deceptions, tricks and lies of every conceivable kind.

Wonder no more. Mystery solved! This is the last stop on Hubbard's Bridge, where everyone gets off--and steps into the land of gloating, smirking lies. A world where it's a win to "dead agent" and attack one's most loyal supporters and closest friends and betray everyone, including themselves.

Marty has finally arrived to serve out his just sentence in Scientology hell. "...and that is one thing that no dictator will ever take away."

 

[Gib]

I really wish Marty would listen to this interview of Jason Beghe and comment on it in his recent video's, I have no idea if he has or hasn't, we never know, but Jason explains it all for me when I first started researching on the truth of scientology, and Mark Bunker & Jason are a hero in my eyes for doing this.

Mind you, I didn't need Jason Beghe to tell the truth, I only needed him in that it is OK to compare and look to see if there is actually a "clear" or "OT", and to research if there was indeed a "clear" or "OT" and when I did, I found none, my further in depth research found that the first auditor trained by Hubbard was John Campbell, and his friend, Robert Heinlein, asked the same questions of John Campbell, namely are you "clear", amazing how Hubbard kept the scam going from the very beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHb0BZyF5Ok

 

[ILove2Lurk]

. . .
Since this thread is all about the bizarre, the fantastic, here's one
I ran across today . . . simply unbelievable.

DM has uncovered some lost technology Ron left for us about
cloning. With the declining number of new members joining the COS,
DM has decided to merely clone some of the current high rollers, and
voilà, all problems solved. Can you imagine two Nancy Cartwrights
running around? Two Kirsties?

Well, here's the first COS high-roller clone: Grant Cardone.




















I couldn't believe it either.


PS: Not Photoshop

 

[ThetanExterior]

If I want to call Marty a rude name do I need to send a request up-lines to the Troika to get permission?

 

[I told you I was trouble]

If I want to call Marty a rude name do I need to send a request up-lines to the Troika to get permission?

I tried that a few days ago ... I got knocked back though (despite using some choice names apparently I wasn't being nearly rude enough and was told to resubmit).


:confused2:

 

[George Layton]

. . .
Since this thread is all about the bizarre, the fantastic, here's one
I ran across today . . . simply unbelievable.

DM has uncovered some lost technology Ron left for us about
cloning. With the declining number of new members joining the COS,
DM has decided to merely clone some of the current high rollers, and
voilà, all problems solved. Can you imagine two Nancy Cartwrights
running around? Two Kirsties?

Well, here's the first COS high-roller clone: Grant Cardone.

View attachment 13569


















I couldn't believe it either.


PS: Not Photoshop

But can he clone the MONEY?

 

[Lulu Belle]

Since the 1980s...I am particularly knowledgeable about this with my 5.5 years at OSA INT as Heber Jentzsch's assistant....

The battlecry of Scientology slung at all critics.....for some 35 years is....


1) They are only criticizing for money $$$. They are only attacking for money $$$$

2) There are only more or less 3 top dogs creating all the problem. No such thing as hundreds of individual stories. It is all controlled by 3 WHO's

This has been the Scientology response through the ages.....decades....

​

​

I came across something interesting this morning.

I had googled Marty Rathbun and came across a page from the church's DA site on Mike Rinder.



http://www.whoismichaelrinder.com/articles/rathbun-on-rinder.html


Notice the gist of the page.


"This is what Marty has said about Mike."

"This is what Mike has said about Marty."


Sound familiar?





There are just so many things that indicate that COS is behind all of this.

I still can't believe anyone still thinks Marty is just doing this with no ulterior motive all by his lonesome.

 

[rickybobby]

​

I came across something interesting this morning.

I had googled Marty Rathbun and came across a page from the church's DA site on Mike Rinder.



http://www.whoismichaelrinder.com/articles/rathbun-on-rinder.html


Notice the gist of the page.


"This is what Marty has said about Mike."

"This is what Mike has said about Marty."


Sound familiar?





There are just so many things that indicate that COS is behind all of this.

I still can't believe anyone still thinks Marty is just doing this with no ulterior motive all by his lonesome.

Whoa! Good find! Any idea how old this page is? Is this new?