What made you join Scientology?
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alex
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Er, would you be so kind to pass on that wisdom to those of us less enlightened?
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=4741
Targ gives "skills" in coping, Monroe gives reasons to....
It was quite something to have read these two books in close succession and in the receptive frame of mind.
I still feel that scientology has a place on the path, somewhere before the journey Monroe envisions.
alex
Thanks Alex.
I read that book. I can't remember a damn thing about it other than it just didn't indicate to me. Each to his own.
If anyone mentions MUs, expect to cop some verbal abuse.
Whether you're right or not has nothing to do with it.
Good. Then I won't need to cram that cramming order.............(you see where I'm going with this).
GreyLensman
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The happy, shiny people.
Really. There was a core of caring that worked for me. Once I had joined (mission) staff I found that caring still present.
Gone completely 19 years later.
Really. There was a core of caring that worked for me. Once I had joined (mission) staff I found that caring still present.
Gone completely 19 years later.
paradox
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Summer 1975. On summer break from my 2nd year at SIU (Southern Illinois U). Was taking an interim painting class in my small home town. The instructor sold me a copy of DMSMH on the last day of class (out of the trunk of his car where he had a stash). Turned out he was an FSM. He called me 1 or 2 days later and conned, I mean, talked me into taking a trip to the STL org where I did a personality test and signed up for the comm course. Never looked back, tho' should have been looking over my shoulder. Joined staff straight off the comm course. SO a month or two later. DMSMH did it for me. I was young (25), directionless, purposeless, and confused about life. Gullible, naive, and little life experience. And had loved Star Trek in high school, and Outer Limits and Twilight Zone before that. No need to say more.
nexus100
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Except for a few details that was me.
GreyLensman
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Not too far off for me either. I got chills on my neck.
GreyLensman
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Yep 1975 was a good year for Scientology.
so was 1977...
alex
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Thanks Alex.
I read that book. I can't remember a damn thing about it other than it just didn't indicate to me. Each to his own.
If anyone mentions MUs, expect to cop some verbal abuse.
Whether you're right or not has nothing to do with it.
Monroe accidentally came to be able to exteriorize, found that he could communicate with others also out, and in the end realized that life was a learning experience or a experience collecting effort so as to have something to bring back to the more collective experience of beings as pieces of god, reuniting.
His institute trains people to exteriorize and explore and if they wish help others in the out of body state. He is reputed to "hang out" in several of the levels of consciousness available with his training.
Interesting model, his.
alex (who read dianetics and cogged in 1975...)
nozeno
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I did that once while getting laid. I have since determined that it was my brain responding to chemicals introduced earlier in the day. She wasn't nearly as attractive from a viewpoint 8 feet above the bed. * see edit
It was kind of neat though. It was like one of those rides at Disney.
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ThisIsIt
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Yep 1975 was a good year for Scientology.
That was my year too. Needed something at that time, and it fit.
Good twin
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That was my year too. Needed something at that time, and it fit.
I hear "Twilight Zone" music........
Good twin
Floater
paradox
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Kinda like your avatar Paradox.
Touché. And I'm sober, too. :wink2:
And, I think the reason for that is that the core of caring was never actually part of Scientology, and, in fact, was anathema to the core precepts and doctines as created by Ron.
It was however, what the *people* brought in to Scientology with them, and, it's what could survive, because, at the beginning and, up through the 60s, the Scientology 'movement' was more about the people attracted to it and the values they brought to it than about the totalitarian and selfish core of Scientology.
By the 70s the 'organization' had managed to wrest 'control' of the movement from the overwhelmingly well-intentioned body and now, as the human skin sloughs off, what remains is what Scientology actually is; no longer disguised by the 'wog' values that the membership brought to it.
Zinj
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Zinj, I think it depends on where you were staff, too. I heard about a few horrors while I was in, but the people I saw cared. That said, they were too busy to show it as much as they might have liked to.
Also, I think the further one was away from int, the less extreme the badness was. In all the time I was in, the worst things I've seen were, at most, 1% of what Jeff Hawkins mentioned.
I also think one of the differences was auditing. When you've been audited by someone, or you've audited them, there's a deep trust and caring bond that's there.
If you're just PCs in a waiting room together, or you're working on the phone lines in Div 6, there's not the same level of trust.
So the switch away from the emphasis on co-auditing to that of buying your bridge also changed things. Maybe that's part of what you were referring to, though.
Also, I think the further one was away from int, the less extreme the badness was. In all the time I was in, the worst things I've seen were, at most, 1% of what Jeff Hawkins mentioned.
I also think one of the differences was auditing. When you've been audited by someone, or you've audited them, there's a deep trust and caring bond that's there.
If you're just PCs in a waiting room together, or you're working on the phone lines in Div 6, there's not the same level of trust.
So the switch away from the emphasis on co-auditing to that of buying your bridge also changed things. Maybe that's part of what you were referring to, though.