Unresolved questions re: CoS

[Div6]

If grade 0 ep is "ability to communicate freely with anyone on any subject" why is discussion of sexual preferences taboo?


If LRH and the SO are "OT" why adopt a policy of "being fabian."? Isn't that A) a non-confront; and B) out-tech re" thoroughly viewing problems to make them vanish?

 

[Wisened One]

'Discussion' of sexual preferances isn't 'taboo'

'Practicing' certain preferences (in scn) are.

 

[Feral]

If grade 0 ep is "ability to communicate freely with anyone on any subject" why is discussion of sexual preferences taboo?


If LRH and the SO are "OT" why adopt a policy of "being fabian."? Isn't that A) a non-confront; and B) out-tech re" thoroughly viewing problems to make them vanish?

There are a great many questions like this;

If the orgs have the tech of life, including a superior admin tech why can't they even pay their staff?

Why do OTs ever need glasses if the claims in DMSMH are true?

Why did Ron need vitrisil if the allergy rundown was written and sold by his church?

While there are references about running conception and mitosis to cure cancer why are there so many OTs who died of cancer?

When Ron wrote in History of Man that all tooth troubles stemmed from the clam why is it that his teeth were among the worst I'd ever seen?

If Ron was talking about OTs since 1952 and describing the abilities as well as warning us not to knock hats off at 50 paces, then where are the OTs in 2009?

I could go on...

 

[Hatshepsut]

Since we keep on having more and more bodies on this planet...where are all the beings coming in from who are picking up the bodies. Are they all waiting in the Guff. Are they being shipped in. Are they all asleep until they get tweaked to pick up a body .. Are they a sleeping part of the composite of another human and later get to go their own way when an available body gets born. Isn't this one of the first questions you asked when you got in?

 

[La La Lou Lou]

Interesting,

If it's suppressive to evaluate and invalidate how come that's standard tech as management tech.

If we have the tech to get rid of ARCX's how come theres such a thing as an SRA?

The road to total freedom seems to run through the RPF.


La La Lou Lou

 

[Tiger Lily]

Since we keep on having more and more bodies on this planet...where are all the beings coming in from who are picking up the bodies. Are they all waiting in the Guff. Are they being shipped in. Are they all asleep until they get tweaked to pick up a body .. Are they a sleeping part of the composite of another human and later get to go their own way when an available body gets born. Isn't this one of the first questions you asked when you got in?

Hatshepsut, this actually WAS one of my first questions, and I asked it very early. The answer I was given: we are on a prison planet. Thetans keep being shipped here in ice cubes or something when they are "banned" from other planets.

So there ya go!!

TL

(the good news is that we're not all DB's -- artists and innovators get shipped here too. So we have the best of the best and the worst of the worst here on Teegeack!)

 

[Ted]

Since we keep on having more and more bodies on this planet...where are all the beings coming in from who are picking up the bodies. Are they all waiting in the Guff. Are they being shipped in. Are they all asleep until they get tweaked to pick up a body .. Are they a sleeping part of the composite of another human and later get to go their own way when an available body gets born. Isn't this one of the first questions you asked when you got in?

More people, less trees.

They were trees in the previous life. :dancer:


--
Ted

 

[Zinjifar]

Hatshepsut, this actually WAS one of my first questions, and I asked it very early. The answer I was given: we are on a prison planet. Thetans keep being shipped here in ice cubes or something when they are "banned" from other planets.

So there ya go!!

TL

(the good news is that we're not all DB's -- artists and innovators get shipped here too. So we have the best of the best and the worst of the worst here on Teegeack!)

But, Incident II was the 'innocent' citizens of the Federation that Xenu kidnapped and dumped here. Then the 'Loyal Officers' got rid of Xenu. So, why is Teegeeack a *prison* planet? Why are thetans still being dumped here? By whom?

Ans: Ron couldn't keep a plotline going even in His *own* made up world.

Next Question: Since the citizens of the Federation did *not* have 'Incident II' implants, they should have been in pretty good shape psychically speaking; so, how come the evil Xenu managed to take over in the first place?


Zinj

 

[Tiger Lily]

But, Incident II was the 'innocent' citizens of the Federation that Xenu kidnapped and dumped here. Then the 'Loyal Officers' got rid of Xenu. So, why is Teegeeack a *prison* planet? Why are thetans still being dumped here? By whom?

Ans: Ron couldn't keep a plotline going even in His *own* made up world.

Next Question: Since the citizens of the Federation did *not* have 'Incident II' implants, they should have been in pretty good shape psychically speaking; so, how come the evil Xenu managed to take over in the first place?


Zinj

Hell if I know -- they lost me at "ice cubes"!

Maybe there's another evil even bigger galactic overlord that we'll meet at OT10 or something who implanted the idea that we're Thetans by taking the bigger beings that we used to be and shoving them into suns . . . that would explain why we were all vulnerable to Xenu. I'm sure there's a very rational explanation. We're just not OT enough to be able to handle it yet, and so haven't been exposed to the powerful data. In fact I hope that I haven't given you pneumonia already!

And of course pre-clears have never heard of Xenu -- we don't find out that he's locked up in a mountain until OT3, so it's perfectly believable to "raw meat" that there could be new Thetans arriving daily from the federation.

See?

-TL

 

[Dulloldfart]

Next Question: Since the citizens of the Federation did *not* have 'Incident II' implants, they should have been in pretty good shape psychically speaking; so, how come the evil Xenu managed to take over in the first place?

Per Hubbard's tale it was only some Loyal Officers who escaped, as far as I remember reading this stuff. The citizens all got whacked, all the "thetans in this sector."

Paul

 

[Dulloldfart]

The answer I was given: we are on a prison planet. Thetans keep being shipped here in ice cubes or something when they are "banned" from other planets.

So there ya go!!

TL

I am not endorsing this, but curiously....

"Every few seconds a 'snowball' the size of a small house breaks up as it approaches Earth and deposits a large cloud of water vapor in Earth's upper atmosphere." Louis A. Frank, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa.

http://smallcomets.physics.uiowa.edu

Paul

 

[Iknowtoomuch]

How did Hubbard know some of these things with Xenu? Was Hubbard one of the thetans boxed up? If so then how did he know where he was going or what happened to him if he was frozen.

If he wasn't one of those thetans frozen then he must have been helping to froze them right? Then how did he know about it?

The person that goes through the experience has to be there to experience it right! How does he have so many details about incident II? From what perspective is he telling the story?

 

[Zinjifar]

Per Hubbard's tale it was only some Loyal Officers who escaped, as far as I remember reading this stuff. The citizens all got whacked, all the "thetans in this sector."

Paul

But, Xenu was an *elected official* of the Federation. The actual citizens were much closer to the 'Natural State', in lacking the Incident II implants, so, how the hell did such an evil suppressor get elected?

Zinj

 

[Zinjifar]

How did Hubbard know some of these things with Xenu? Was Hubbard one of the thetans boxed up? If so then how did he know where he was going or what happened to him if he was frozen.

If he wasn't one of those thetans frozen then he must have been helping to froze them right? Then how did he know about it?

The person that goes through the experience has to be there to experience it right! How does he have so many details about incident II? From what perspective is he telling the story?

You're forgetting your KSW!!

'We shall not speculate as to how I came to rise above the Bank...'

Zinj

 

[Dulloldfart]

But, Xenu was an *elected official* of the Federation. The actual citizens were much closer to the 'Natural State', in lacking the Incident II implants, so, how the hell did such an evil suppressor get elected?

Zinj

They got whacked after they elected him. (Was he elected? I don't remember what Hubbard said either way.) "The place has since been a desert" Hubbard said. Where do you get this idea the actual citizens didn't get implanted? Go to Wikileaks and re-read the materials. They're in "Tech Volume 14."

Paul

 

[knn]

They got whacked after they elected him. (Was he elected? I don't remember what Hubbard said either way.)

Come on, of course you know it:

And they had elected a fellow by the name of Xemu to the supreme ruler. And they were about to unelect him. And he took the last moments he had in office to really goof the floof.
​

 

[knn]

If the orgs have the tech of life, including a superior admin tech why can't they even pay their staff?

Because the current admin-tech ratio is off-policy.

Why do OTs ever need glasses if the claims in DMSMH are true?

The claims of DMSMH are not true. There were no Clears then and the claims are merely theoretical. DMSMH is a book thus is not revised like HCOBs.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=220911#post220911
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Why did Ron need vitrisil if the allergy rundown was written and sold by his church?

After the brain insult his body needed Vistaril.

While there are references about running conception and mitosis to cure cancer

The reference in History of Man

Cancer has been eradicated by auditing out conception and mitosis.
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does not state that every cancer can be audited out.

Just like a statement "accidents have been cured by plaster and antibiotics" does not imply that there are no deadly accidents or that every accident can be cured like this.

When Ron wrote in History of Man that all tooth troubles stemmed from the clam why is it that his teeth were among the worst I'd ever seen?

History of man states:

Audit all such incidents for all teeth and you have permanently taken the pain out of toothache and cut down decay.
​

He talks about cutting down decay. Not about eradicating all of it.

why is it that his teeth were among the worst I'd ever seen?

What was wrong with them? Aside from being black from the cigarettes?

If Ron was talking about OTs since 1952 and describing the abilities as well as warning us not to knock hats off at 50 paces, then where are the OTs in 2009?

OT 15 isn't released yet.

I could go on...

Please do.

 

[knn]

Since we keep on having more and more bodies on this planet...where are all the beings coming in from who are picking up the bodies.

1) Thetans can split as explained on the Timetrack of Theta tapes, similar to cell-theta splitting when the cell divides.
2) Your question overjumps the more important one: Where do thetans come from? How do they come into this universe.

 

[Tiger Lily]

Come on, of course you know it:

And they had elected a fellow by the name of Xemu to the supreme ruler. And they were about to unelect him. And he took the last moments he had in office to really goof the floof.
​

Thanks Knn -- that was worth a little line-charge for me! Ive Never actually seen that in print!

TL

 

[Dulloldfart]

Come on, of course you know it:

And they had elected a fellow by the name of Xemu to the supreme ruler. And they were about to unelect him. And he took the last moments he had in office to really goof the floof.
​

Thanks. I never paid a whole lot of attention to that tape after the initial wow factor wore off. The "goof the floof" phrase didn't have a whole lot of impact on me either, although I've noticed it is very popular in Criticonia.

Paul