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Scientologists react to Miscavige/Davis meltdown

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Gary Jacobs is gone? :ohmy:

OMG, he's been there forever.

What happened with him?

I have no idea. I had read in one of their pubs on here not too long ago that he was at Flag. Sandy was doing her very best to put a good face on. He may or may not have left COS. He may just have been 'fired' to Flag to get something or another.
BTW, Sandy called again yesterday afternoon about 2:30. Her voice was very different in that on the first call she sounded fresh and upbeat and "theta". Yesterday she sounded down tone. We had a very short conversation with my telling her that Spouse and I just HAVE NO INTEREST.

Chlng
 

Div6

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I have no idea. I had read in one of their pubs on here not too long ago that he was at Flag. Sandy was doing her very best to put a good face on. He may or may not have left COS. He may just have been 'fired' to Flag to get something or another.
BTW, Sandy called again yesterday afternoon about 2:30. Her voice was very different in that on the first call she sounded fresh and upbeat and "theta". Yesterday she sounded down tone. We had a very short conversation with my telling her that Spouse and I just HAVE NO INTEREST.

Chlng

I imagine they are all pretty beaten down right now. Particuarly since the STATS are a lie. NO Expansion in 20 years leaves a pretty cannabalized field.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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I would have asked:

"Why would Rathbun and Rinder lie about this?"
Because they are bad, bad, bad people that have always, always, always been liars, liars, liars! Wait! .....except for when they were on senior management posts when they were good, good, good and saying all the true, true, true things about the fastest growing religion in the world.

"Why would trusted longtime OT veterans make this up?"
Because they falsely attested to being OTs. A real OT would not make this up.

"If they were suppressives, why didn't OT management discover this years ago?"
You really need to look up the word "covert" as in "covert hostility". Ron means what he says!

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What about Tommy Davis admitting that there were repeated attacks by these men in the past? Why weren't they fired or declared suppressives back then? (instead of waiting for them to leave on their own)
When are you going to stop complaining about such minor outpoints and take some responsibility by joining staff or donating much more money?
 

Jimmymac

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" When are you going to stop complaining about such minor outpoints and take some responsibility by joining staff or donating much more money? [/QUOTE]

Where do i sign (again)? Do you want my credit card details?
 

HelluvaHoax!

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When are you going to stop complaining about such minor outpoints and take some responsibility by joining staff or donating much more money?

quote from JimmyMac: Where do i sign (again)? Do you want my credit card details?



Right now we are offering a very special discount for very special beings. We have removed all the arbitraries!! (hip hip hooray!) Now you can donate all your money, join the Sea Org and STILL have lots of time for your first dynamic!!!! (*)

Remember, a thetan doesn't need MEST.... Give us all your MEST credit cards and we will handle of all that MEST DevT for you!!!

Muster is at 8am tomorrow morning, so that leaves you plenty of time to handle your MEST cycles tonight.

Your post is Senior Spokesman for Scientology Int'l. Based on his incredible power stats recently (and shattering the SP Times!), Tommy Davis has been rush-promoted to join Ron doing advanced research in outer space.

Remember, Ron says that "a thetan has done everything before." So don't Q & A with having to have hatting before you can do. Your target is to clean up all of the bad Public Relations Scn has on the internet and media within one week. (Tommy already handled the SP's and the public now loves us!!! All that's left is minor "mop up", no worries!)

Welcome aboard, matey!

Sincerely Yours,

Deputy Commodore
for
Deputy Buddha
for
Deputy Fife
for
Ron "space jazz" Hubbard

(*) The old billion year contract was a transcriptionist error. It is only a one million year contract, so now you have an extra 999,999,000 years to just party!
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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Posted by CORNPIE:

"scientologyWorld -- the Theme Park From Hell" by HelluvaHoax, quoted above, it's one of the 10 greatest ESMB posts (from post #38 of this thread)


Thanks! I'm happy to think I contributed anything of value to you or the other fine people at ESMB!
 

BAYCB

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At 1:06 (1 minute and 6 seconds) into this video David Miscaviage and Mike Rinder are in the same picture, side by side, briskly walking past each other. Rinder looks roughly 8-10 inches taller to me. However, their bodies were "not" shown from head to foot at the same time, so I wouldn't rule out camera deception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ-kY50J50

If you also compare the planet logo behind them as they speak you can definitely see the difference. Miscaviage is a third below the african continent and Rinder is far above it. I would say your 8 to 10 inches is pretty close.

Ron Minor
 

Jimmymac

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At 1:06 (1 minute and 6 seconds) into this video David Miscaviage and Mike Rinder are in the same picture, side by side, briskly walking past each other. Rinder looks roughly 8-10 inches taller to me. However, their bodies were "not" shown from head to foot at the same time, so I wouldn't rule out camera deception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZ-kY50J50

I forgot how crappy these events are. It is like a fucking amway convention.
 

Zinjifar

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I forgot how crappy these events are. It is like a fucking amway convention.

Amay just wants to clean your toilet. Scientology wants to clean your bank account, while washing your mind.

Thank you Ron! (and, thank you Mike!)

Zinj
 

CornPie

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I forgot how crappy these [scientology televised] events are. It is like a fucking amway convention.
I continue to hear these references to Multi Level Marketing (MLM) Amway type scams, in relation to scientology. And I've heard it a number of times here on ESMB. Can anyone shed some light on this subject of Amway and MLM scams, as it relates to scientology?

Recently I watched a basketball game on TV held in FLORIDA in the AMWAY Arena. And I though, "Holy s***, strike 1 and strike 2."

I made up my mind a long-long time ago that Amway was a scam. I forget all the details, but it would go something like this; I'd be talking with somebody personable, they'd say there was this "great" business opportunity, but wouldn't tell me the name of the company, they'd invite me to their basement, the "reg" would lay a sales pitch on me, tell me about all the money I'd make if I did what they're doing, and oh yeah, they have great detergent. I'd get x% of everything I sell, y% of anything anybody I signed up for sold, z% of their signups, and so on, MLM type s***.

They'd run ads in the help wanted section, and business opportunities section of the local newspaper -- but they would refuse to tell you what it was unless you came over to their place. These days there are health food scams, magic drink formulas, and so on.

Does anybody know the current scoop on this MLM s***? And is there really any relationship to scientology???
 
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Mick Wenlock

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there is no direct relation to Scientology.

It is the fact that MLMs - especially the AMO's (Amway Motivational Organizations) use cult tactics to keep their members. Keeping them ver very busy, continuous "brainwashing" via a mandatory series of CDs and DVDs, everything about the members life cleared with their "upline", no talking with 'negative people' and so on.

The book "Merchants of Deception" is a free eBook about the AMOs. Definitely worth reading.
 

OliviaZero

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David Miscavige is NOT 5 foot 5 inches tall. (5'5') I am 5 foot 6 inches and I tower over the dainty dwarf. He might be 5'5" in his special Italian made 2 thousand dollar shoes, but even then when he was trying to get in my face he barely came up to my nipples.

I weighed about 100 pounds then and David Miscavige made me feel like a moose. David Miscavige is a tiny little tyrant. I shoulda stepped on him right then.

I vote 5'2", *maximum*.
 

CornPie

Patron Meritorious
there is no direct relation [of Amway] to Scientology.

It is the fact that MLMs - especially the AMO's (Amway Motivational Organizations) use cult tactics...
Amway critics use phrases like: free speech suppression, takedown notices, restraining orders, cult tactics, death threat to the author of the book you mentioned. It stinks like scientology "tech" being used to me. The "cult" aspect seemed far fetched to begin with, but where there's smoke, there's fire. I googled, "amway sucks", for lots of hits.

Beware, I suggest having your virus scanner updated if you google the book; "Merchants of Deception". Numerous Multi Level Marketing (MLM) pages seem virus-ish to me.
 
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Dulloldfart

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The book "Merchants of Deception" is a free eBook about the AMOs. Definitely worth reading.

I just reread that entire book again. I first read it in 2004. This time around I see far more similarities to the CofS than I did then. I'm wondering what I will think if I read it again in 2014.

Oaul
 
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Mick Wenlock

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Amway critics use phrases like: free speech suppression, takedown notices, restraining orders, cult tactics, death threat to the author of the book you mentioned. It stinks like scientology "tech" being used to me. The "cult" aspect seemed far fetched to begin with, but where there's smoke, there's fire. I googled, "amway sucks", for lots of hits.

If you want to see Cult speak in action with MLMs visit scam.com - as you peruse the threads in the MLM section you will see so many examples that will remind you of Scientology.

Along with Amway the Melaleuca mob are another bunch of head bangers but the list of MLM scams is long and disheartening.

Scientology is the Amway of religion.
 

pollywannacracker

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Scn's are taught and drilled to don't look, don't listen when it is applied to Scn. That is why the answer is always NO!:confused2:

Makes me wonder whatever happened to LRH's quote of "look, don't listen". If more current Scn's looked, they would find the truth....:yes:
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
I just reread that entire book again. I first read it in 2004. This time around I see far more similarities to the CofS than I did then. I'm wondering what I will think if I read it again in 2014.

Oaul

"Oaul"?

OAUL????

I've spelled peoples' names wrong before - but never my own!!

:hysterical::hysterical::lol::hysterical::buzzin::happydance::happydance:
 
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