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clamicide

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Oreo Double Post.

Gotta reply to this thread for real once my brain turns back on. Oh wait--midlife! It might not turn back on. Good thread.
 
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Wisened One

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It's okay to be disappointed
with what you have or have achieved.

It's also okay to be proud of the same.
It's okay to be moody or grouchy or stupid or silly.

It's okay to wear your rose colored glasses
and it's equally okay to take them off.

You can feel sorry for yourself
and you can feel lucky sometimes too.

Truth is every day is a gift.
I really really believe this.

I am grateful for my mood swings
and my lack of energy
and short temper and impatience.

I know that it could be gone in a flash.

For everything I wish I had experienced
I still wouldn't give up a single moment

of what I did experience.

Goddess Hugs all around ladies.

I love you all more than you know.


:love8: :love8: :love8: :grouphug: :love8: :love8: :love8:

:cloud9: :hug: You always did have a way with words! :yes:
 

michaelangelo

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Damn it. I wasn't trying to be a bitch by posting the link, so please don't hate me folks. :unsure: I guess I just get cranky when some people try to repackage wisdom falsely. Reminds me of the cult because a lot of self-help-for-profit were propagating this idea. There is much beauty and wisdom that can be learned how various Eastern schools and cultures look at crisis, so I'm not pooh-poohing that at ALL.

That's ok I didn't read it anyway.
 

Telepathetic

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It's okay to be disappointed with what you have or have achieved. It's also okay to be proud of the same. It's okay to be moody or grouchy or stupid or silly. It's okay to wear your rose colored glasses and it's equally okay to take them off. You can feel sorry for yourself and you can feel lucky sometimes too.

Truth is every day is a gift. I really really believe this. I am grateful for my mood swings and my lack of energy and short temper and impatience. I know that it could be gone in a flash. For everything I wish I had experienced I still wouldn't give up a single moment of what I did experience.

Goddess Hugs all around ladies. I love you all more than you know.

:love8: :love8: :love8: :grouphug: :love8: :love8: :love8:

Great post GT:thumbsup: The joy of enjoying.

TP
 

Carmel

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Tiger Lily

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Damn it. I wasn't trying to be a bitch by posting the link, so please don't hate me folks. :unsure: I guess I just get cranky when some people try to repackage wisdom falsely. Reminds me of the cult because a lot of self-help-for-profit were propagating this idea. There is much beauty and wisdom that can be learned how various Eastern schools and cultures look at crisis, so I'm not pooh-poohing that at ALL.


Oh dear :unsure: Clami you're no bitch -- didn't take it that way. . couldn't take you that way -- you're way too cool (even though you like the White Sox) I didn't read the whole thing, but got the gist of it -- I've seen wisdom misinterpreted many many times, it's definitely something to watch out for!

Michaelangelo's comment about "awakening" did ring true for me though -- because I'm having to let go all the ideas about what my life was going to be. I'm seeing that my most productive years are over; I feel like crap all the time, need bifocals, I'm past setting the world on fire. It's not a dissimilar feeling to the one I had when I realized that I'd given my heart/soul/life to a cult. . . it was horrible to go through that, but I came out with a deeper understanding and perspective.

In a similar way, this "mid life miracle" I'm experiencing is awful. I'm having to totally re-evaluate my value and my purpose. . .right now I'm mourning the loss of what "might have been" . When Michaelangelo said "awakening" it actually "indicated" (so sorry to use that word). So if this is only a part of a process of new understanding of life and new self-acceptance, then bring it on!!

But I'm still not happy about the bifocals. :hmmph:

-TL
 

Tiger Lily

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Glad you put this thread here, Michelle - It has come at a good time for me. :)

Me too Michelle -- I've been whining to my hubby on this very topic for a month now, and now I can whine to you guys and give him a rest! :)

-TL
 

Wisened One

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Me too Michelle -- I've been whining to my hubby on this very topic for a month now, and now I can whine to you guys and give him a rest! :)

-TL

Goody, lol, me too! :p My hubby's waaaaay too busy for me to even WHINE at him, but I would if I could, lol!

Yeah, my body's' changing on me, as well. My sight's also gettin' worse to where I have to now use reading glasses to read and have hubby read any small print if I don't have them with me! :ohmy:

Since I already have been wearing a hearing aid all my life, I now feel like I have to more heavily depend on it sometimes...:sadsigh:

And onward....

But year, I'm staring to really miss my youth, I guess. My energy, my sleep..(sleeping very good lately now, tho, but still I can never take it for granted anymore like I used to!).

And I guess I'm experiencing empty nest syndrome now that my son has gotten married.....

I already have an adorable grandson but he lives hours away so it's hard to spoil him and be with him as often....

...Gee, guess taking that break/vacaation has really dislodged some stuff, huh? (All this has been goin' on for a while before that tho...just now sharin' it)

Idk...I'm only 40-frickin-TWO, guys! ....idk....just....lots....:hug: Glad you girls (and guys) are here for me to blab at ya'll...it's really helping!
:yes:
 

angel

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Hang in there Michelle

I am 47 and my cervical cells went wonky and turned irregular (precancerous) about 3 years ago. Then my Mammo showed calcifications. I freaked because my youngest is only 8 yrs old, I'm loving my life now etc etc.

I caught an episode of Larry King Live with Suzanne Somer's and she was being attacked on the show by the AMA because she uses bioidentical hormones to fight cancer. I was never a fan of Suzanne's but being the ex-scn that I am, noticed the effort the AMA was putting into stopping her from communicating. I ordered her books and they have helped me tremendously. She is surprisingly an articulate author and extensive researcher. She is extremely gutsy and generous.

I now understand the decline of hormones and nutrients your body goes through in your 40's. I learned that as your hormones decline body messages çommunicate that you are no longer going to be reproductive so its time to phase you out. Replacing hormones from a natural plant based source keeps those messages from being sent. It keeps you young and for me that awful anxiety that I was experiencing for no reason has completely disappeared. I'm happy and calm and patiently watch my friends at work have moments and episodes. (We are all around the same age). Three years later my tests are comming back normal and my doctor said I am in remission.

I take a daily purif's worth of supplements every day consisting of chinese and other anti-aging herbs that are not contained in a multi-vitamin. I bag up a weeks worth of daily supplements every sunday and do so for my husband also now because he was diagnosed with Cancer this past winter. It is a constant battle that I continue to stay at cause over. So many nutrients that we are deficient in because we do not eat fish everyday, or kelp, tomatos, garlic, pomegranite, flaxseeds, soy, grapes, citrus, broccoli, spinach, cabbage, etc. If you think about it some of the nutrients you need are only consumed once a week, if that...

Sleep is also a huge factor. If I get enough then I do not get run down, because like you I get fatigued very easily. Yikes, it's almost 10:30 pm and I get up at 5am!

Start studying about what your body is going through at this age, its fun and very interesting.

Jen :thumbsup:
 
Main Entry: mid–life crisis
Function: noun
: a period of emotional turmoil in middle age caused by the realization that one is no longer young and characterized especially by a strong desire for change.

.........................

I think I'm having one.

But I'm deeming it more of a Mid-life Miracle (my term).

YET....I'm TIRED of pollyanna'izing some things/events in my life, dammit!

Sometimes one needs to vent and Say AND FEEEL what they REALLY FEEL, ya know?!

Still tho: it's not all fun and games goin' on, either.....any others (especially women) experiencing this? :unsure:

I have to start with this: "You go girl!!!"

Feel free to not "pollyanna-ize" because, unless you are Pollyanna, you gotta vent.....and better yet, say what you feel. Sometimes when you say it, you feel better. Honest communication isn't always sweetness and nicey nice. It's part of the real world, not the fake life of "uptone" and "upstat" always to make everyone in scn (including yourself) think you are winning in life.

And you know when you've hit the point where you've vented too much.

As women, we are naturally emotional and naturally gregarious. But we do change throughout our lives. Even our emotional levels and our emotional reactions to things.

Mid-life miracle is probably a good way to express it. There's many philosopohies now that talk about honoring the stages of aging for women.
 

Wisened One

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Great info, Jen, Thank you! :)

I too had my cells go wonky about three yrs ago and had to learn more about my body! (And also have done very well since!).

And yep, Suzanne's books also saved my mind and body! I LOVE her first book and Ageless!

I also take supplements and chinese herbal female tonic forumula (I had a feeling this Thread might turn into another Women's Natural Health Thread, and so be it, then).

But on the other Thread :Women,how did your adrenals fare, I go into what has helped balance me..soon I am gonna spend the 350 bucks and get all my hormones and thyroid tested to make sure I'm good.

But yeah....I hear ya on taking all the pills, cuz who eats all those 'perfect' foods all the time, every day? And even if we did, I'm sorry, but I feel like no longer can our food give us all that we need (without supplements, that is). Whether it's due to the soil or pesticides or what.







I am 47 and my cervical cells went wonky and turned irregular (precancerous) about 3 years ago. Then my Mammo showed calcifications. I freaked because my youngest is only 8 yrs old, I'm loving my life now etc etc.

I caught an episode of Larry King Live with Suzanne Somer's and she was being attacked on the show by the AMA because she uses bioidentical hormones to fight cancer. I was never a fan of Suzanne's but being the ex-scn that I am, noticed the effort the AMA was putting into stopping her from communicating. I ordered her books and they have helped me tremendously. She is surprisingly an articulate author and extensive researcher. She is extremely gutsy and generous.

I now understand the decline of hormones and nutrients your body goes through in your 40's. I learned that as your hormones decline body messages çommunicate that you are no longer going to be reproductive so its time to phase you out. Replacing hormones from a natural plant based source keeps those messages from being sent. It keeps you young and for me that awful anxiety that I was experiencing for no reason has completely disappeared. I'm happy and calm and patiently watch my friends at work have moments and episodes. (We are all around the same age). Three years later my tests are comming back normal and my doctor said I am in remission.

I take a daily purif's worth of supplements every day consisting of chinese and other anti-aging herbs that are not contained in a multi-vitamin. I bag up a weeks worth of daily supplements every sunday and do so for my husband also now because he was diagnosed with Cancer this past winter. It is a constant battle that I continue to stay at cause over. So many nutrients that we are deficient in because we do not eat fish everyday, or kelp, tomatos, garlic, pomegranite, flaxseeds, soy, grapes, citrus, broccoli, spinach, cabbage, etc. If you think about it some of the nutrients you need are only consumed once a week, if that...

Sleep is also a huge factor. If I get enough then I do not get run down, because like you I get fatigued very easily. Yikes, it's almost 10:30 pm and I get up at 5am!

Start studying about what your body is going through at this age, its fun and very interesting.

Jen :thumbsup:
 

clamicide

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Great info, Jen, Thank you! :)

I too had my cells go wonky about three yrs ago and had to learn more about my body! (And also have done very well since!).

And yep, Suzanne's books also saved my mind and body! I LOVE her first book and Ageless!

I also take supplements and chinese herbal female tonic forumula (I had a feeling this Thread might turn into another Women's Natural Health Thread, and so be it, then).

But on the other Thread :Women,how did your adrenals fare, I go into what has helped balance me..soon I am gonna spend the 350 bucks and get all my hormones and thyroid tested to make sure I'm good.

But yeah....I hear ya on taking all the pills, cuz who eats all those 'perfect' foods all the time, every day? And even if we did, I'm sorry, but I feel like no longer can our food give us all that we need (without supplements, that is). Whether it's due to the soil or pesticides or what.

Ah...femaleness! I'm sort of nowhere as far as religion, but I do love the way some of the pagan walks really embrace the whole maiden/mother/crone and celebrate and honor each stage. I think of that, and it actually calms me. It's very difficult. Part of me wants to grow my hair and watch it turn long and great* and celebrate the earth mother within, the other would kill to have the cash for a plastic surgeon to put everything back where it "belongs" and spend all day at the Sephora counter.

I think of cultures that revere the older generation, and I just wish we had that. We have Oprah telling us "This is what 50 looks like! This is the best time of my life!" and I want to go "Fuck You! That's what 50 looks like and feels like when you have all the money in the world!" Some of us have day to day bullshit and can't buy all the perfect products; epiphanies and perfect skin is harder to come by (and SOME of us even have to deal with cult crap on top of it :D ).

As far as the whole physical mental side, the one thing that saved my life was Dr. Schulze's Female Formula. I had tried about everything, the rub in creams, the bio-identical, herbs, etc. and I was stunned when the stuff worked. When I was taking it, my son could immediately tell if I'd missed a dose.

Adrenals...oh, hell yes. Someone lent me a book on adrenal fatigue soon after I got out of the cult. Being a staff member is recipe for adrenal disaster. My son has also fought the problem coming off staff and he's a young guy. Adrenals and female hormones and thyroid play off each other, so life on staff is definitely dangerous to your health.

*Edit: I meant to type "grey", caught this on reading after posting, and I think it's quite an interesting typo!
 
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clamicide

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A few more musings...

Can't sleep and found myself still thinking about this thread. I guess it's OK that I'm not going to be that famous whatever that I thought I'd have a shot at being. Part of me is just pissed that I didn't get to take that chance. I gave my life and my voice away to the cult. I guess others might have given that chance (at whatever they wanted) over to a constricting marriage, a demanding career, and so we're not alone in that respect. Does giving ourselves to cultdom make that harder? I feel my dreams morph at this stage. There are still great things that I want to do, but I also am now thinking of my most awesome grandmother. She lived sort of an ordinary life, but she touched many lives, and she really was happy. Maybe life doesn't always have to be a deep quest. Maybe some days, it's just cool to pick up some knitting and watch Jeopardy and smile. Sure beats slaving away on staff.

Before I wound up here in the 'city proper', I had initially moved to a tiny town on the outskirts. I was amazed. It was the first time in so many years that I'd seen people who looked like the "old folks" I remembered from my youth. It was actually a beautiful sight to me and brought back great memories. I'd transplanted from a very image-conscious area, and I realized that this "real" type of person was virtually absent. Everyone was dyed or surgeried and dressed to the nines. Very different visions of what my "winter" could look like.

I'm not at that age yet, but I feel like I'm entering a new search for identity...like being a teenager, where you look around and see what sort of adult you might become. Sort of feel like I can feel the first winds of autumn upon me...and it's really nice that, unlike entering adulthood, I'm not in the cult and can choose for myself this time.
 

anonomog

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Maybe life doesn't always have to be a deep quest.

:hug: to clamicide and thanks for the quote I don't recognize you--I've changed a lot. Oscar Wilde that has been very helpful to me this last week.
Which brings me to this thought, you have managed to influence my life, a stranger halfway around the world, with a short sentence in a signature line. Perhaps us humans put too much effort into a spiritual quest when we can touch others and continue our spiritual journey almost unknowingly.

Maybe we don't have to make a deep spiritual search out of life because spirit knows exactly what is needed this lifetime and won't let us slip behind in our knowledge or understanding.

:grouphug:
 

Wisened One

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, the one thing that saved my life was Dr. Schulze's Female Formula. I had tried about everything, the rub in creams, the bio-identical, herbs, etc. and I was stunned when the stuff worked. When I was taking it, my son could immediately tell if I'd missed a dose.

Adrenals...oh, hell yes. Someone lent me a book on adrenal fatigue soon after I got out of the cult. Being a staff member is recipe for adrenal disaster. My son has also fought the problem coming off staff and he's a young guy. Adrenals and female hormones and thyroid play off each other, so life on staff is definitely dangerous to your health.

*Edit: I meant to type "grey", caught this on reading after posting, and I think it's quite an interesting typo!

I take the exact same product! I take the liquid/tincture. Which form do you take it in? I've been on it every day for a couple yrs or more and my hubby can also tell if I've missed a dose! I also drink Soy Milk every day as that is a natural calming agent to my system. (I'm allergic to dairy).

And yep, I had Adrenal Fatigue too! DHEA helped me (small doses of it at night. It also helped me sleep!).

And I agree that Staff/SO was a definite recipe for disaster on anyone's adrenals/hormonal systems/thyroid! Geeez, did ya ever see our wedding pics? (Got married on Staff). They're in my 'Ok, I'm telling more of my leave story' Thread. Geez, I looked TIRED and sooo much thinner than I am now!

GLAD we are out and here talking and really helping others! Feels good, doesn't it?
 
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