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Hatshepsut

Crusader
Regarding this recruitment questionaire....I'm betting that if the answer to either of the questions about LSD or children was YES, it would make one ineligible. Not that I'm thinking about joining.:hmm: But I guess if the children were no longer dependents it would be OK.

Is it written anywhere why LSD in a case would make a person non persona grata? I mean so many inside the church are borderline 'out there' anyway. I'd read that it was because all the income slumps for orgs in the 60s were attributed to individuals on staff who had done quanities of LSD. I'd like to hear the whole track story for this if there is one. I actually suspect what the WHY is, but have never seen it written anywhere. Maybe its because the old man himself was such a dabbler in the medicine chest of psychiatric drugs. I mean with being desperate to recruit, this LSD is still a big issue. I wonder if crack counts? If they differentiate between the Hollywood heavy hitters and rock stars $$$$$$ who did a lot of coke... and the weekend crackheads. Oh but of course, the ones who are still making the money would be naturally more OT and only when they run out would they descend to DB. I'm a bit acrimonious here because I have seen staff and public get offloaded from Flag with these excuses while in the HGC some big rocker is being looked after. Rare but true.
 
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skollie

Silver Meritorious Patron
HCO Bulletin of 31 May 1977, "LSD - Years After They Have 'Come Off' LSD"

"The way LSD got popular was because of Henry Luce, the head of Time Magazine, who publicized it and glorified it from mid-1950 on. He and his wife were under psychiatric care and were on LSD.

"Nearly as I can trace it, it was the Nazi intelligence drug developed in Switzerland and was probably intended for use in municipal water systems to paralyze the population just prior to an invasion as the invading enemy would then find them all irrational."

:dieslaughing:
 
If they are going to be asking about a candidate's drug use, you'd figure they would have used a picture of Hubbard, where he wasn't so ripping stoned ... look at his eyes ... blotto is the only term that comes to mind.
 

Feral

Rogue male
I've always wondered what % of those questionnaires ever get returned filled in....about 0.003%?

Yet they keep sending them out!:duh:
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
I think on the back track LSD was used to make a 'cluster' deliberately by the Psychs. It often comes up running a 'milazzo' pack. Under listing, for:

shock
electrical
freezing
drugs
etc, LSD will come under the drugs. It is particualry nasty as it leaves the being out of valence and in that of another.

I ran one incident where I was sold to the highest bidder..as a thetan! :omg:
Someone purchased the rights to be attached to me 'made one with via implant with LSD' and then rode IN attached to my front while I entered this galaxy area. Now, this was a loooooong time ago before so many restrictions. But to this day I think those bastards are gutless swine. They don't have the balls to do their own full scale interiorization. They keep one foot in and one foot out of this universe..
 

Blue Spirit

Silver Meritorious Patron
LSD

Regarding this recruitment questionaire....I'm betting that if the answer to either of the questions about LSD or children was YES, it would make one ineligible. Not that I'm thinking about joining.:hmm: But I guess if the children were no longer dependents it would be OK.

Is it written anywhere why LSD in a case would make a person non persona grata? I mean so many inside the church are borderline 'out there' anyway. I'd read that it was because all the income slumps for orgs in the 60s were attributed to individuals on staff who had done quanities of LSD. I'd like to hear the whole track story for this if there is one. I actually suspect what the WHY is, but have never seen it written anywhere. Maybe its because the old man himself was such a dabbler in the medicine chest of psychiatric drugs. I mean with being desperate to recruit, this LSD is still a big issue. I wonder if crack counts? If they differentiate between the Hollywood heavy hitters and rock stars $$$$$$ who did a lot of coke... and the weekend crackheads. Oh but of course, the ones who are still making the money would be naturally more OT and only when they run out would they descend to DB. I'm a bit acrimonious here because I have seen staff and public get offloaded from Flag with these excuses while in the HGC some big rocker is being looked after. Rare but true.

It just occurred to me that without going against the SO ban on LSD use at

all (I'm very anti-drug), that LRH likely also did it to make himself right for his

extensive and long term use of drugs other than that one including Cocaine

which use I have on the best of authority told to me in a PM, so I won't

divulge the source.

Common sense gives that answer.
 

Blue Spirit

Silver Meritorious Patron
Saving The World

I've always wondered what % of those questionnaires ever get returned filled in....about 0.003%?
Yet they keep sending them out!:duh:

Feral, don't you know how important that is that they are saving the

whole world AND universe ?? :lol: :lol: :duh:
 

everfree

Patron Meritorious
If they are going to be asking about a candidate's drug use, you'd figure they would have used a picture of Hubbard, where he wasn't so ripping stoned ... look at his eyes ... blotto is the only term that comes to mind.

Hahaha, good call! "Duuuude, totally come join my ship of slaves".
 

altruistichedonist

Patron with Honors
696 Yonge St is the home address of one of my e-mail addresses on Yahoo. I plan to be in that building in the near future. Unfinished business. There's a "raw meat" Div 6 public coming in.:coolwink:

The questionnaire is almost identical to the one I answered in 1995, I answered "NO" to question 3.

And "NO" and "NO" to question 5.

A few long long comm cycles ensued.

Funny part to me now is ...

On Question 8 regarding LSD. I put "YES, many times".

There were a few really stupid fools in CLO CAN in 1995. No insult intended to former SO members here.
 

AngeloV

Gold Meritorious Patron
Yeah, right

Regarding this recruitment questionaire....I'm betting that if the answer to either of the questions about LSD or children was YES, it would make one ineligible. Not that I'm thinking about joining.:hmm: But I guess if the children were no longer dependents it would be OK.

Is it written anywhere why LSD in a case would make a person non persona grata? I mean so many inside the church are borderline 'out there' anyway. I'd read that it was because all the income slumps for orgs in the 60s were attributed to individuals on staff who had done quanities of LSD. I'd like to hear the whole track story for this if there is one. I actually suspect what the WHY is, but have never seen it written anywhere. Maybe its because the old man himself was such a dabbler in the medicine chest of psychiatric drugs. I mean with being desperate to recruit, this LSD is still a big issue. I wonder if crack counts? If they differentiate between the Hollywood heavy hitters and rock stars $$$$$$ who did a lot of coke... and the weekend crackheads. Oh but of course, the ones who are still making the money would be naturally more OT and only when they run out would they descend to DB. I'm a bit acrimonious here because I have seen staff and public get offloaded from Flag with these excuses while in the HGC some big rocker is being looked after. Rare but true.

There's old hubbard acting like he totally knows drug effects on the body like a pharmacologist. Nothing like someone who is NOT an expert throwing BS around like it was candy. (And don't get me started on 'All about Radiation').

There are MANY drugs much worse than LSD. The only reason I can think of as to why he zeroed in on LSD is that he took it and had a bad trip. Thus, it made it into his fictitious, sci-fi fantasy.
 
There's old hubbard acting like he totally knows drug effects on the body like a pharmacologist. Nothing like someone who is NOT an expert throwing BS around like it was candy. (And don't get me started on 'All about Radiation').

There are MANY drugs much worse than LSD. The only reason I can think of as to why he zeroed in on LSD is that he took it and had a bad trip. Thus, it made it into his fictitious, sci-fi fantasy.

You could be right about Hubbard and LSD. Hubbard on LSD would be a disaster, he was not even close to being mentally strong enough or mentally stable enough on his best day to handle a bad trip.
 

BC1

Patron with Honors
I just got one of these surveys in the mail a couple of weeks ago, but I'm in the US. I had a good laugh because they also asked:

1. If anyone in my family would have any objections to me joining the Sea Org.

2. If I had any family connected to any government investigative agency.

3. If I was only interested in joining to produce a news story.


I'll have to save and post the survey if I get another one, it was good for a hearty laugh. The questions made me think that they are starting to wonder about even their own people if they are worried people are joining to get a news story.
 

Jimmymac

Patron
696 Yonge St is the home address of one of my e-mail addresses on Yahoo. I plan to be in that building in the near future. Unfinished business. There's a "raw meat" Div 6 public coming in.:coolwink:

The questionnaire is almost identical to the one I answered in 1995, I answered "NO" to question 3.

And "NO" and "NO" to question 5.

A few long long comm cycles ensued.

Funny part to me now is ...

On Question 8 regarding LSD. I put "YES, many times".

There were a few really stupid fools in CLO CAN in 1995. No insult intended to former SO members here.


I am sure fucking glad I took acid in my years before scn. I am sure I would have joined the SO. I was a true believer at the start.
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
There's old hubbard acting like he totally knows drug effects on the body like a pharmacologist. Nothing like someone who is NOT an expert throwing BS around like it was candy. (And don't get me started on 'All about Radiation').

There are MANY drugs much worse than LSD. The only reason I can think of as to why he zeroed in on LSD is that he took it and had a bad trip. Thus, it made it into his fictitious, sci-fi fantasy.

Actually and although it's possible that Ron had a 'bad trip', I suspect his reason for hating LSD so much is that, whatever else it does, it also softens 'programming' and *can* often hypersensitise the partakers to bullshit.

Not something Ron would have liked.

Zinj
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
With new Sea Org member stats crashed out to lowest evers....desperate recruiters pull out all the stops.

SEA ORG RECRUITER (handing billion year contract and pen across table) "...so one last question before you sign, have you taken LSD in the past?"

NEW RECRUIT: "Uhhhh, well technically I am actually on an LSD trip right now!"

SEA ORG RECRUITER: "You are tripping right now?!!!"

NEW RECRUIT: "Yeahhhhhhh...You're beautiful man, but I guess I won't be able to join your groovy navy."

SEA ORG RECRUITER: "...well, the question is 'have you taken LSD in the past?' so let's take a look in the dictionary on the meaning of the word 'past'.
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Actually and although it's possible that Ron had a 'bad trip', I suspect his reason for hating LSD so much is that, whatever else it does, it also softens 'programming' and *can* often hypersensitise the partakers to bullshit.

Not something Ron would have liked.

Zinj

Too bad the ayahuasca deprogramming agent wasn't around. :thumbsup:
 
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