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Vinaire

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1. The natural laws are the outgrowth of the composite agreement of everyone in this universe.

2. The physical universe is basically built out of “old decayed energy,” which acts like available building material. This is similar to having a library of agreed-upon “subroutines” with which to construct one’s “computer program” or “routine.”

3. Thus, energy provided by the physical universe becomes an easy way to create as compared to creation by direct postulates. This is similar to how the higher languages, like FORTRAN and C++, provide an easy way to program a computer as compared to programming a computer directly with machine language.

4. At the level of machine language one can create infinite variations in programming. The freedom to create such variations becomes more and more limited as one depends more and more on the pre-packaged “subroutines” of higher computer languages. Similarly, the more a person comes to depend on the physical universe’s energy, the less he is able to manipulate the physical universe for his purposes, and

(a) His perception itself comes to be based on physical impact.

(b) His reality comes to be determined more and more by the physical universe.

(c) We naturally select out and push out of the group those who do not agree with our physical perceptions.

5. As the physical universe becomes increasingly the means of creation and perception, one’s own ability to create and perceive through postulates is suppressed.

6. Agreement is preferred because it seems to help one get along better. But as one agrees more and more one becomes more an effect of that agreement and ceases to be cause.

7. As one agrees more to be driven by the physical universe’s energy, the makeup of that energy becomes increasingly difficult to investigate and understand.

8. Complete agreement means one has become physical (mechanical) oneself. One is no longer alive. One owns nothing. One controls nothing. It takes another person to come along and do something to it.

9. It will be interesting to find out who dumped this old decayed energy (the library of “subroutines”) in the first place that has tempted each one of us so much; but knowledge dives out of sight pretty fast in this physical universe.

10. A body is a remarkable trap. Agreement to take care of the body bends you into an agreement with the physical universe.

11. Such agreement reduces the person to a bunch of social responses (stimulus-response mechanisms that are built into the person by the society).

12. These basic agreements can be stated and experienced.

13. The phenomenon here is very gradual but similar to what happens under hypnosis.
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Alan

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1. The natural laws are the outgrowth of the composite agreement of everyone in this universe.

2. The physical universe is basically built out of ?old decayed energy,? which acts like available building material. This is similar to having a library of agreed-upon ?subroutines? with which to construct one?s ?computer program? or ?routine.?

3. Thus, energy provided by the physical universe becomes an easy way to create as compared to creation by direct postulates. This is similar to how the higher languages, like FORTRAN and C++, provide an easy way to program a computer as compared to programming a computer directly with machine language.

4. At the level of machine language one can create infinite variations in programming. The freedom to create such variations becomes more and more limited as one depends more and more on the pre-packaged ?subroutines? of higher computer languages. Similarly, the more a person comes to depend on the physical universe?s energy, the less he is able to manipulate the physical universe for his purposes, and

(a) His perception itself comes to be based on physical impact.

(b) His reality comes to be determined more and more by the physical universe.

(c) We naturally select out and push out of the group those who do not agree with our physical perceptions.

5. As the physical universe becomes increasingly the means of creation and perception, one?s own ability to create and perceive through postulates is suppressed.

6. Agreement is preferred because it seems to help one get along better. But as one agrees more and more one becomes more an effect of that agreement and ceases to be cause.

7. As one agrees more to be driven by the physical universe?s energy, the makeup of that energy becomes increasingly difficult to investigate and understand.

8. Complete agreement means one has become physical (mechanical) oneself. One is no longer alive. One owns nothing. One controls nothing. It takes another person to come along and do something to it.

9. It will be interesting to find out who dumped this old decayed energy (the library of ?subroutines?) in the first place that has tempted each one of us so much; but knowledge dives out of sight pretty fast in this physical universe.

10. A body is a remarkable trap. Agreement to take care of the body bends you into an agreement with the physical universe.

11. Such agreement reduces the person to a bunch of social responses (stimulus-response mechanisms that are built into the person by the society).

12. These basic agreements can be stated and experienced.

13. The phenomenon here is very gradual but similar to what happens under hypnosis.

Have you ever fully defined agreement?

The exact process that takes place between beings to form an agreement?

Alan
 
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Vinaire

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Have you ever fully defined agreement?

The exact process that takes place between beings to form an agreement?

Alan

I wondered about that, but I do not have a satisfactory answer to that.

I am interested in your definition.

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Pascal

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I wondered about that, but I do not have a satisfactory answer to that.

I am interested in your definition.

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I just get the picture of mimicry or duplication (exact copy)

Total agreement would be total ARC, ocupying the same space, sharing the same concept or idea.

Maybe reading Dianetics 55! could help.

I get the idea of puss'n boots asking the giant if he can become a mouse... Then goes ahead and eats him. That probably resumes the story of thetans in this universe. :duh:
 

Tanstaafl

Crusader
I just get the picture of mimicry or duplication (exact copy)

Total agreement would be total ARC, ocupying the same space, sharing the same concept or idea.

Maybe reading Dianetics 55! could help.

I get the idea of puss'n boots asking the giant if he can become a mouse... Then goes ahead and eats him. That probably resumes the story of thetans in this universe. :duh:

Don't want to be pedantic, but I will. :)

You can't occupy the same space and still have communication, by definition.
No distance. ARC has limited workability as a concept.
 

Alan

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Definition: AGREEMENT ? American Heritage:

1. The act of agreeing. 2. Harmony of opinion; accord. 3. An arrangement between parties regarding a course of action; a covenant. 4. Law a. A properly executed and legally binding contract. b. The writing or document embodying this contract. 5. Grammar Correspondence in gender, number, case, or person between words.

Kn: Definition: AGREEMENT: Defined as: Harmony by fusion of vision, image or mock-up.

An Agreement is the product of telepathically projected holographic visions, images or mock-ups being fused together with another?s or others? telepathically projected holographic visions, images or mock-ups.

Agreement is the basic building block of creating reality. For anything to come into being in the physical universe it must be agreed upon.

The ascending scale of types of ownership, or ownership of your own universe, shows that each being has declined over a long, long period of time.

The past often shapes the present and the future, for our long-time-ago-past psychically-created, telepathically-projected images became fused with others' telepathically-projected images to form the basis for future reality by creating agreements.

Past negatively-fused visions, images or mock-ups created negative agreements that create present and future negative realities.

Alan
 
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Zinjifar

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Don't want to be pedantic, but I will. :)

You can't occupy the same space and still have communication, by definition.
No distance. ARC has limited workability as a concept.

Unless the *point* is duplication (and, it is.)

In an absolutist system like Scientology, there *is* only one truth; what Ron revealed. So, with Agreement and shared Reality, all Communication is restatement of Ron.

And, it's 'True for You', because you learn to *make* Ron true for you, and everyone agrees :)

Zinj
 

Tanstaafl

Crusader
Unless the *point* is duplication (and, it is.)

In an absolutist system like Scientology, there *is* only one truth; what Ron revealed. So, with Agreement and shared Reality, all Communication is restatement of Ron.

And, it's 'True for You', because you learn to *make* Ron true for you, and everyone agrees :)

Zinj

There's a lot more, I'm sure, to agreement and it's relationship to perception and universes. I've no time at the mo' but will look into this at some point.

From what I recall, there seemed to be some ambiguity about R in ARC. It could be agreement or it could be how real someone or something is to you.

The biggest form of agreement in Scn is that nothing will change, although it's rarely communicated.
 

Björkist

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Reality is agreement but/and is also subjective, thus it needs to be "proven" on an individual basis, from the individual's own viewpoint.

There are different "levels" of reality.

Quite a program we live in!
 

Leon

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I like what Alan wrote, but I would amend it slightly.

Agreement is a no-games condition; it is a theta thing and so really does not solidify into mest.

It is disagreement (the tiny portion one refuses to duplicate) that gets the creator to continually assert the rightness of his creation (and the disagreer his rightness in not agreeing) that leads to the ridge which solidifies into mest.
 

Björkist

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I like what Alan wrote, but I would amend it slightly.

Agreement is a no-games condition; it is a theta thing and so really does not solidify into mest.

It is disagreement (the tiny portion one refuses to duplicate) that gets the creator to continually assert the rightness of his creation (and the disagreer his rightness in not agreeing) that leads to the ridge which solidifies into mest.


So are we 1 being who has forgotten (or been imposed upon by "something") and all this is really "in our mind"?
 

Vinaire

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Definition: AGREEMENT – American Heritage:

1. The act of agreeing. 2. Harmony of opinion; accord. 3. An arrangement between parties regarding a course of action; a covenant. 4. Law a. A properly executed and legally binding contract. b. The writing or document embodying this contract. 5. Grammar Correspondence in gender, number, case, or person between words.

Kn: Definition: AGREEMENT: Defined as: Harmony by fusion of vision, image or mock-up.

An Agreement is the product of telepathically projected holographic visions, images or mock-ups being fused together with another’s or others’ telepathically projected holographic visions, images or mock-ups.

Agreement is the basic building block of creating reality. For anything to come into being in the physical universe it must be agreed upon.

The ascending scale of types of ownership, or ownership of your own universe, shows that each being has declined over a long, long period of time.

The past often shapes the present and the future, for our long-time-ago-past psychically-created, telepathically-projected images became fused with others' telepathically-projected images to form the basis for future reality by creating agreements.

Past negatively-fused visions, images or mock-ups created negative agreements that create present and future negative realities.

Alan

Your definition reminds me of the following Factors:

20. And the many viewpoints, interacting, become dependent upon one another’s forms and do not choose to distinguish completely the ownership of dimension points and so comes about a dependency upon the dimension points and upon the other viewpoints.

21. From this comes a consistency of viewpoint of the interaction of dimension points and this, regulated, is TIME.

22. And there are universes.



Lack of responsibility for what one causes shows up as dependency on others. Thus, we have agreement.

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Vinaire

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Unless the *point* is duplication (and, it is.)

In an absolutist system like Scientology, there *is* only one truth; what Ron revealed. So, with Agreement and shared Reality, all Communication is restatement of Ron.

And, it's 'True for You', because you learn to *make* Ron true for you, and everyone agrees :)

Zinj

That seems like an "understanding" from a Semitic viewpoint.

Ron admits that even he can be as-ised. What remains then?

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Vinaire

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Reality is agreement but/and is also subjective, thus it needs to be "proven" on an individual basis, from the individual's own viewpoint.

There are different "levels" of reality.

Quite a program we live in!

One perceives what one mocks up.

All critics perceive LRH and Scientology the way they are mocking either up.

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Vinaire

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I like what Alan wrote, but I would amend it slightly.

Agreement is a no-games condition; it is a theta thing and so really does not solidify into mest.

It is disagreement (the tiny portion one refuses to duplicate) that gets the creator to continually assert the rightness of his creation (and the disagreer his rightness in not agreeing) that leads to the ridge which solidifies into mest.

Duplication and as-isness is something very different from agreement.

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beyond_horizons

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I won't be able to have a precise opinion until I study the Big Bang Theory in detail.

But knowing what I know of The Factors, the Big Bang is much later on the chain, and it is following a pattern established much earlier.

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Here is a story about a guy who seems to claim some first hand knowledge about the subject as it relates to that 'light' thingy and its relationship to the holographic matrix!

http://www.mellen-thomas.com/index.html

:)
 
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