The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Blue Spirit]

Super Food Drink

Good...'cause at this point of the story, I'm on my ass.

Face

Take your Super Food Drink !

I'm working on the design of an ideal one.

 

[Blue Spirit]

5000-th Post

I like this, Rog...good stuff!

Face

Hey Face, I was supposed to have that 5000-th post !
You beat me by two minutes.
Still got that football competitive spirit I see.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Plane talk!

Hi EP,

I believe you are referring to the twin piston engine planes which are death traps if you lose an engine on takeoff where the engine is stressed the greatest
and also if you didn't drain enough fuel from the tanks on your preflight check,
then you could have an engine choking on water and failing.

That Socata costs $3 million, but you can find a self-built single engine turbine with a Czechoslovak engine (simpler) for way under a million. I think about 1/2M. The trick is to get one already built, as who has time to build one ?

Do you have a license ?

Owned a Tri-Pacer with two other guys while in Kansas City back in mid to late '60s and was a navigator in the Air Force Reserve. Expensive hobby even then - gave it up and now fly some radio control models which is a lot of fun.

The Beech Bonanza was what the old hands called a "Dr killer" - because of a couple of things... one, Doctors are typically big egos and think they can get away with most anything - plus they hate to wait and feel omnipotent. Two, they probably learned on a Cessna 150, Cherokee 140 or similar - very forgiving, slow, dirty birds.

So they have money to upgrade up to a clean, sleek, fast "all metal subsonic"
like a Bonanza - may or may not get IFR ratings... get to feeling comfortable...and, possibly with a cocktail or two in them decide to push the weather and daylight.

It's freaking amazing how fast a "clean" airplane can get away from you...

Anyhow, I miss the whole scene and just consider that I was fortunate to experience some of it, and survive it.

Out of time here; may the altitude always be below ya, the runway ahead of ya and the stall warning horn silent!

EP

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

FACE, your experiences in your #5 segment remind me of ALAN's Rugby stories.

You might enjoy that and maybe some of his Tech posts too.
He was the first, I believe, on this board to spot where and when and how LRH went off the rails,
although that is most likely of no interest to you any longer.

TKU, Blue.

I've read every one of Alan's posts on ESMB plus a bunch of the Knlgism web site. Good stuff! He was/is the real deal...as a Rugger and Sportsman and Techy and a Being!

Face

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Hey Face, I was supposed to have that 5000th post !
You beat me by two minutes.
Still got that football competitive spirit I see.

I'll be damned...sorry Pardner.:confused2:

Like I said before...there's only two kinds of drovers...the quick and the dead.

Face

 

[GLH]

Before this board gets away from me or I can't catch up on this thread I wanted to say thanks to Lakey whoever the hell you are. I was at CC at around the same time as you and have really enjoyed this thread. My favorite so far as I try desperately to catch up is the "sea org cog". I unfortunately had it and bit it, much to my chagrin. Yeah well CC "really was for the artist", what a load. I guess if you had a lot of money... but second thought you wouldn't have received the help you needed or wanted. Sheesh what a con. So thanks for this tome.

 

[Blue Spirit]

I Second That

TKU, Blue.

I've read everyone of Alan's posts on ESMB plus a bunch of the Knlgism web site. Good stuff! He was/is the real deal...as a Rugger and Sportsman and Techy and a Being!

Face

Full agreement from me.

Alan is still around, as several of us have had contact, and certainly many more that I don't know about.

 

[Blue Spirit]

Cheap Flying

Owned a Tri-Pacer with two other guys while in Kansas City back in mid to late '60s and was a navigator in the Air Force Reserve. Expensive hobby even then - gave it up and now fly some radio control models which is a lot of fun.

The Beech Bonanza was what the old hands called a "Dr killer" - because of a couple of things... one, Doctors are typically big egos and think they can get away with most anything - plus they hate to wait and feel omnipotent. Two, they probably learned on a Cessna 150, Cherokee 140 or similar - very forgiving, slow, dirty birds.

So they have money to upgrade up to a clean, sleek, fast "all metal subsonic"
like a Bonanza - may or may not get IFR ratings... get to feeling comfortable...and, possibly with a cocktail or two in them decide to push the weather and daylight.

It's freaking amazing how fast a "clean" airplane can get away from you...

Anyhow, I miss the whole scene and just consider that I was fortunate to experience some of it, and survive it.

Out of time here; may the altitude always be below ya, the runway ahead of ya and the stall warning horn silent!

EP

Thanks for the short story.

I recall Bonanza's had failures of their "V Tail" until discovered and fixed, additional to all of the correct factors you mentioned.

I probably set the record in 1968-9 for cheap license obtainment.
My cousin taught me for free and our club's (4-5 planes) Cessna 172 went for
a max of $9.50 per hour wet (including fuel) before the gas "crisis".
Only $20/month dues.
I quit when the fuel prices went up and put the money into the "Church".

My fun was landing at many of the grass or dirt strips around Virginia and Maryland before the lawyer's fucked up that game.

One can still fly cheap in a hang glider or economical powered plane like a Rutan LongEze, which last I checked could be had for $35-50,000.

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Owned a Tri-Pacer with two other guys while in Kansas City back in mid to late '60s and was a navigator in the Air Force Reserve. Expensive hobby even then - gave it up and now fly some radio control models which is a lot of fun.

The Beech Bonanza was what the old hands called a "Dr killer" - because of a couple of things... one, Doctors are typically big egos and think they can get away with most anything - plus they hate to wait and feel omnipotent. Two, they probably learned on a Cessna 150, Cherokee 140 or similar - very forgiving, slow, dirty birds.

So they have money to upgrade up to a clean, sleek, fast "all metal subsonic"
like a Bonanza - may or may not get IFR ratings... get to feeling comfortable...and, possibly with a cocktail or two in them decide to push the weather and daylight.

It's freaking amazing how fast a "clean" airplane can get away from you...

Anyhow, I miss the whole scene and just consider that I was fortunate to experience some of it, and survive it.

Out of time here; may the altitude always be below ya, the runway ahead of ya and the stall warning horn silent!

EP

Airplanes!! Oh GAWD!! Gawd, not Airplanes!!

Okay, okay, (pant, pant pant) I am NOT going to sidetrack myself anymore than I already have to tell any airplane stories or talk airplanes.

The Socata looks like a real sweet machine.

I’ve had two Cessna’s... a 182T and a 421B.

Flying is F-U-N!!!

Face

 

[FoTi]

All the talk about the dynamics, and in particular the 2nd Dynamic, reminds me of a definition of the 2D from Creation of Human Ability that I've always liked.

I like it because it's very much a spiritual definition rather than being pinned to that mucky bodily stuff

In COHA, Hubbard wrote: the Second Dynamic is duplication of purposes for and in the future.

Is that neat or is that neat?

I'll say one thing about it, it makes for wonderful relationships between "consenting adults" . . . and, MAB, you don't need any bloody beer!

RogerB

That's neat. An' howit shudbe.

 

[Ted]

Just wait 'till I get to the sex part!

Face

Now you are target marketing. You know darn well Carmelo's go-button.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Well....

Did they use the word Goy or Goyim to refer to non-jews?

I've heard myself called a schicksa by the same kinds of "older folks" that Lakey is talking about more than once...for what it's worth.

I never let it bother me...just let it roll off my back. How would they know that I love and honor their religious tradition without knowing me at all? Why take offense at this sort of thing? It's just people's prejudice showing.

Everybody either loves, likes or respects me once they get to know me at all, unless they are a severely aberrated (read psychopathological) person, so I don't get my hackles up when this sort of thing happens.

I can confirm and agree with Lakey's viewpoint that calling someone "Schwartz" in this neck of the woods is akin to calling them "darkie" or worse... It goes beyond a color description, there is a negative attitude in the tone and facial expression, usually.

 

[FoTi]

Before this board gets away from me or I can't catch up on this thread I wanted to say thanks to Lakey whoever the hell you are. I was at CC at around the same time as you and have really enjoyed this thread. My favorite so far as I try desperately to catch up is the "sea org cog". I unfortunately had it and bit it, much to my chagrin. Yeah well CC "really was for the artist", what a load. I guess if you had a lot of money... but second thought you wouldn't have received the help you needed or wanted. Sheesh what a con. So thanks for this tome.

Can you imagine if CC had really been for the artist and not just a money making con, what an incredible place it would be like today? And also, how many more people would have been successful in their chosen field.....and how much richer our culture would have been today from a real support of artists? The collection of artistic talent that would be there today, after all these years, would be magnificently overwhelming. What a delicious thought.

Too bad it never happened.

I think we all had an MU and didn't realize that LRH's definition of a Celebrity Center was a place for artistic people where he could suck all the money out of their pockets and into his pocket while getting them to draw in more artists to feed the artistic vampire.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Hummmmm???

Yes FoTi, it's a lovely thought to have community centers which will really support the expression and creation of the arts by artists of all kinds.

Something good for us to work towards having!

Pepin, can I pick your brain? (And everyone else's) Sometime's it's GOOD to have an engineer on the boat!

Do negative ionizer machines help with health problems? Breathing? Mood? Pain reduction?

Are too many positive ions from all our electromagnetic-radiation emitting gear giving us fits?

Should I just go stand in the shower to accomplish the same thing as standing in the waves at the beach???

The boyfriend and I had a disagreement about this, and I had to walk him out to the end of the pier and buy him a beer to calm him down.

Thank you!

 

[lkwdblds]

Hi shicksa

Yes FoTi, it's a lovely thought to have community centers which will really support the expression and creation of the arts by artists of all kinds.

Something good for us to work towards having!

Pepin, can I pick your brain? (And everyone else's) Sometime's it's GOOD to have an engineer on the boat!

Do negative ionizer machines help with health problems? Breathing? Mood? Pain reduction?

Are too many positive ions from all our electromagnetic-radiation emitting gear giving us fits?

Should I just go stand in the shower to accomplish the same thing as standing in the waves at the beach???

The boyfriend and I had a disagreement about this, and I had to walk him out to the end of the pier and buy him a beer to calm him down.

Thank you!

Hi Sweetness, you shicksa who is not really a shicksa. I think that the old CCLA was an excellent hang out for artists and entertainers. They had the cute snack bar with all kinds of healthy snacks, smoothies, etc. They had poetry by candlelight were young artists could showcase their talents free of charge, they had loss leader type courses. I think HAS was $50 and HQS was $100. Artists could improve their skills on those courses. They did mood drills, TR's at 100' or so to increase projection, etc., obnosis drills and all kinds of thing which would help actors and actresses.

It was a happy place and made a pretty large impingement on its local enviironment considering how little money it had to operate with. In a way it was an ideal org based on the original definition of the term. It appeared to be a place where a new type of society was being created and it exchanged in abundance. Yvonne made sure all the staff were hatted and each post had a hat pack and in this she vastly overshadowed Hisself who routinely threw unhatted people on posts with no hat packs to read. Yvonne taught service, service, superlative service. Her HGC was staffed mainly with Class VIII's so that Celebrities and "would be" Celebrities received excellent auditing. The staff members were young and dedicated and strove to exchange with their public in abundance. IT REALLY WAS AN INCREDIBLE ORG, NOT PERFECT, FAR FROM IT, BUT IT WAS A TASTE OF WHAT A TRULY DEDICATED CELEBRITY CENTRE COULD BE LIKE.

From its inception. with only two staff, Yvonne and Purple Haze, joined very early by Ellen Jones, they had close to 150 staff a year later and started having branches in various cities such as New York, Paris, Las Vegas, and Portland, Oregon. I could never figure out why Portland but anyway, in about 3 years from inceptiion CC had 150 staff in L.A. and had expanded to a group of CC's going international. It was a vibrant place, a place anyone could come to on any given day or night and connect with creative people and be cheered up. There were no registrars circling like hawks to disrupt peoples' good times. People were mainly routed to the reg after intro lectures and after courses or auditing were completed. Otherwise people were left pretty much alone, except for maybe Wednesday nights.
Lakey

 

[Ted]

Just wait 'till I get to the sex part!

Face

Yes FoTi, it's a lovely thought to have community centers which will really support the expression and creation of the arts by artists of all kinds.

Something good for us to work towards having!

Pepin, can I pick your brain? (And everyone else's) Sometime's it's GOOD to have an engineer on the boat!

Do negative ionizer machines help with health problems? Breathing? Mood? Pain reduction?

Are too many positive ions from all our electromagnetic-radiation emitting gear giving us fits?

Should I just go stand in the shower to accomplish the same thing as standing in the waves at the beach???

The boyfriend and I had a disagreement about this, and I had to walk him out to the end of the pier and buy him a beer to calm him down.

Thank you!

Some female attention and an ionized beer, that does it for me.

 

[Ted]

Oops. If I have one more beer I will be drunk-facebooking. And drunk-ESMBing. I betta quit while I am ahead.

 

[Zinjifar]

Oops. If I have one more beer I will be drunk-facebooking. And drunk-ESMBing. I betta quit while I am ahead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FaK0Ww0hRE&feature=search

Zinj

 

[Blue Spirit]

Visualization

Can you imagine if CC had really been for the artist and not just a money making con, what an incredible place it would be like today? And also, how many more people would have been successful in their chosen field.....and how much richer our culture would have been today from a real support of artists? The collection of artistic talent that would be there today, after all these years, would be magnificently overwhelming. What a delicious thought.

Too bad it never happened.

I think we all had an MU and didn't realize that LRH's definition of a Celebrity Center was a place for artistic people where he could suck all the money out of their pockets and into his pocket while getting them to draw in more artists to feed the artistic vampire.

I've had the same thoughts exactly, and I would have been one of them too.

Here is an idea:
We should start an Ex-Scientologist Center for those abandoned artists and give them real handlings that will get them going.
It would be tough competing with C.C. as they have lots of promo and events continually.
I know one processor that might do it.
Pay the "staff" well, fuck stats, and just let them do their processing.
Word would get out.
Use the Tech, Knowledgism, "The Power of Now", the Hicks super power of
high vibrations (postulates) and everything else that works.

What name to call it ?

"The Truth Center for Artists" or
"The Success Center for Artists" or
"Artists for Beauty and the Spirit" or
"Spiritual Center for Artists" or
"Artists Spiritual Success Center"
OR ??

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Pitu fer you!

Take your Super Food Drink !

I'm working on the design of an ideal one.

This may well beat the hell outta that alkaline H2O shit, friends! And this is kinda how it goes at EP an the C/S's on occasion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsObbAI3H8M