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Pardon me, but did you just say that you audit Power Processes on people over the phone?
Over the telephone?
You audited someone on their Grades V & VA?
Class VII Auditor processes?

I ran a secondary engram one time, not even an engram, a secondary! And if I had been on
the phone when this took place I probably would have dropped the phone and not been able
to "get back in to session" long distance or even locally so to speak.

This Scientology story is full of wonderful surprises at every turn.

"Telephone style auditing".

Being as how we are all cut from the same cloth, we are, therefore, all connected. Auditing, using a telephone, is something I've been doing for decades. I've audited people on all the continents except for the two poles. Tonight, Pacific Daylight Time, I audited a guy in Denmark at the beginning of his morning.

I audited a complete newbie on another continent one time. On his first session, we went whole track to last lifetime being killed by the Nazis. The charge was so thick, you cut it with a knife. At that time, I thought to myself, "If I fuck this up, there is no repair list in the world that will fix this." I didn't fuck it up, and it was ended on big win. That is pretty much what I expect.

I've never been a nine to five, office denison. Usually, I'm on my cell phone walking my dog through the waves of the Paciifc or on ski trail or driving down the freeway when auditing somebody. The more space I have, the better. Don't fence me into a little room.

There was a point where I found that the basics are ARC U, live comm, strong connection with the PC, auditing the PC "in front of me" and ending on a win. I ask for goals to begin the session, and I aim to accomplish the PC's goals. I don't use cheat sheets. I have a ton of processes in my head, not all Scientology by any stretch of the imagination. I want my PCs to win, and win NOW.

Once I realized Standard Tech was set up to make money, not help someone as fast and effectively as possible, I changed the rules I played by. That was in 1976.

Auditing can and should be used to help people get the ideal scene that they want. Cookie cutter processing where you do the next thing on the grade chart is not for me.

When my daughter wanted a certain job, my wife prepchecked her on all the attitudes and stuff regarding that. Ten minutes after their third session, my daughter had her job. Changing one side of an equation changes both sides.

When our kids were little, my wife packed them up to the beach, and ran the grades on them (before expanded grades).

Auditing is best USED. It isn't as effective when it is smothered in rules.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
I know who you mean and he did it his way too!

my posts are generally stream of consciousness. what I'm thinking. I can be writing to motivate or posting to entertain. I am not someone with a one track mind. For those who want a thread to stay on course, I'm not that person.

For those who want to talk tech, I can do it.

But really, I appreciate Emma's candor. There is a time to move on from being a Scientologist. There is another time to move on from being an Ex Scientologist.

There came a time, where I just reverted back to being a citizen of the world. In that regard, pretty much everything interests me. So, when I post about a great white shark, it's cuz I found it fascinating.

When I post cartoons and talk about sex, I'm deliberately pushing (funny) buttons because sex is a suppressed item in the current Co$, and I think people coming from it, need some healthier attitudes.

a friend's late husband's uncle had a hit with this Paul Anka tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ya7ZRlrEo

The gentleman you speak of, I knew well though not intimately. He did it his way, making his own way without using his famous family name, Sinatra, to help him get ahead. Along his way, he found himself a wife of his own great magnitude, and a person who I was fortunate to know and who delivered an entire level of auditing of to me lasting many intensives. She and I formed a spiritual alliance in those several months of intensive auditing which left me forever a better and wiser person. I have lost touch with her now but the bond which I shared with her will always remain.

Of all the great hits which the Great Sinatra made famous, this is probably his signature song. Elvis among others also did a nice rendition of it. What a great song, what great lyrics! We can't all live the lives of a Sinatra or an Elvis but we can stand tall and live our own lives "our way"!
Lakey
 
Being as how we are all cut from the same cloth, we are, therefore, all connected. Auditing, using a telephone, is something I've been doing for decades. I've audited people on all the continents except for the two poles. Tonight, Pacific Daylight Time, I audited a guy in Denmark at the beginning of his morning.

I audited a complete newbie on another continent one time. On his first session, we went whole track to last lifetime being killed by the Nazis. The charge was so thick, you cut it with a knife. At that time, I thought to myself, "If I fuck this up, there is no repair list in the world that will fix this." I didn't fuck it up, and it was ended on big win. That is pretty much what I expect.

I've never been a nine to five, office denison. Usually, I'm on my cell phone walking my dog through the waves of the Paciifc or on ski trail or driving down the freeway when auditing somebody. The more space I have, the better. Don't fence me into a little room.

There was a point where I found that the basics are ARC U, live comm, strong connection with the PC, auditing the PC "in front of me" and ending on a win. I ask for goals to begin the session, and I aim to accomplish the PC's goals. I don't use cheat sheets. I have a ton of processes in my head, not all Scientology by any stretch of the imagination. I want my PCs to win, and win NOW.

Once I realized Standard Tech was set up to make money, not help someone as fast and effectively as possible, I changed the rules I played by. That was in 1976.

Auditing can and should be used to help people get the ideal scene that they want. Cookie cutter processing where you do the next thing on the grade chart is not for me.

When my daughter wanted a certain job, my wife prepchecked her on all the attitudes and stuff regarding that. Ten minutes after their third session, my daughter had her job. Changing one side of an equation changes both sides.

When our kids were little, my wife packed them up to the beach, and ran the grades on them (before expanded grades).

Auditing is best USED. It isn't as effective when it is smothered in rules.


It is OK for some. I guess. You know why? Probably not because my case is any different but I guess like you say not everyone was "thrown off a cliff by the Nazi's" so to speak.

Good that you like to talk to people. Good that you like being an auditor.

My experience tells me that if I had been on the phone at that moment I am not sure where I would have wound up.
 
It is OK for some. I guess. You know why? Probably not because my case is any different but I guess like you say not everyone was "thrown off a cliff by the Nazi's" so to speak.

Good that you like to talk to people. Good that you like being an auditor.

My experience tells me that if I had been on the phone at that moment I am not sure where I would have wound up.

the PCs I audit have to be somewhere safe. They can't be driving or doing anything. They need their attention focused on the process(es). It has to be safe for them to cry, scream, kick their feet, go anaten, run repeater technique, have an epileptic seizure, or just talk freely in confidence.

it works. Time wise, it is a whole lot easier.
 
the PCs I audit have to be somewhere safe. They can't be driving or doing anything. They need their attention focused on the process(es). It has to be safe for them to cry, scream, kick their feet, go anaten, run repeater technique, have an epileptic seizure, or just talk freely in confidence.

it works. Time wise, it is a whole lot easier.

That is for sure.
 

lkwdblds

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CSW to Emma

Lakey, your thread is ahead of the FCDC one on posts by 8%, a more meaningful stat.

I think you should CSW Emma for more stars. :whistling:

CSW

Situation: We have 8% more replies than the FCDC thread yet we both share 5 stars. This is not OK

Data FCDC still has a 12% lead on us in views, 138,000 to 122,000 but this is misleading because all but 2,200 of our views have come since October 12, 2009 while they started up in 2007. We are closing ground on them and should pass them in less than 2 months.

The thread which limits posts to only two words is the only thread with more replies than us but this is misleading too, they have say 7,000 replies but only 14,000 words. Our 5,000 replies probably average 150 words so we have 750,000 words to their measley 14,000 verbage. We have great articles and photos and videos and they only two words so we greatly exceed them.

Solution Recognize us as the best thread on your board by giving us a sixth star.


This is OK. Approved------------------- Disapproved---------------

Gary Hart
Director of Disbursements
CCLA 1971 to 1973

Okay, Blue, I've turned in my CSW, let's see if Emma approves it.
 
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EP - Ethics Particle

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Notice to Airmen

Well, not to be a spoilsport, but I've not had a drink since I started flying airplanes.
Always wanted to be ready to fly on a nice day and 24 hours was better than the 8-hour rule.

I should tell you about the alcoholic airline pilot I had on one flight !

I even spit out the champagne at my wedding ! :melodramatic::nervous::omg:

I would suspect this upsets about half the people on this board. So be it.

Well....................

With you? Me? Us? Upset? :confused2: Nah - everyone is 100% right 100% of the time and I'm 100% OK with that... at least half the time! :eyeroll::coolwink:



Here is a thumbnail of the last aviation project nearing completion winter before last - now in the hangar for some minor repair.

EP
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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Connectin' the dots...

...snip...

I bet you don't know many who have hitchhiked on aircraft ?
I've hitchhiked on a Cessna 421, Piper Aztec, Cessna 310, Cessna 172 and Beech KingAir.
Fun and adventurous.

We iz awl "Pirates & Bums" of the universe(S). :melodramatic::happydance:

EP

I can't put this in context, who and what are you talking about ?

In one of his early lectures, ol' Ron tells about how the really successful "movers and shakers", "captains of industry" and that ilk, truly are as personalities - he says ya might expect them to be serious, sober and industrious, etc - but he says NO! They are the biggest, non-serious "Pirates and Bums" you'd ever run into!

IAS "regges" and other regges used/use this as a good way to get public all fired up to go overboard with donations, etc.

They even had black eye-patches and pirate hats - particularly on the Freewinds to add colour to the regging.

Also, I kinda equate hitch-hikers, pilots, other adventurous souls in the P&B category - 'cause I usually like 'em a whole lot. :yes::biglove:

Hope that gives a bit of context,

EP
 
grab a beach blanket

I'm planning on seeing my friends, Papa Doo Run Run tonight at the Santa Cruz Boardwalk.

Charlie Rush was the original drummer for this band, back when they were Goodie Two Shoes. Charlie's brother, Jim (guitar) and the organ player, Don are still with the band over 40 year later.

They are going strong. They have former Beach Boy and Jan and Dean back up band members. they have recorded with Don Costa.

They put on a tremendous show. they've been doing the Friday night summer concerts at Santa Cruz for decades. It's a free concert at 6 and another at 8. on the beach bandstand.

Papa Doo Run Run is a huge crowd pleaser. They played at Disneyland, as the house band for years. This is one group that I never miss when they are in town.

If you're in Northern California tonight, go see them.

http://www.papadoo.com/
 
Death of the 'McMansion': Era of Huge Homes Is Over

Death of the 'McMansion': Era of Huge Homes Is Over


from Yahoo News

On Thursday August 19, 2010, 2:15 pm EDT


They've been called McMansions, Starter Castles, Garage Mahals and Faux Chateaus but here's the latest thing you can call them - History.

In the past few years, there have been an increasing number of references made to the "McMansion glut" and the "McMansion backlash," as more towns pass ordinances against garishly large homes, which are generally over 3,000 square feet and built very close together.

What sets a McMansion apart from a regular mansion, according to Wikipedia, are a few characteristics: They're tacky, they lack a definitive style and they have a "displeasingly jumbled appearance."

Well, count 2010 as the year the last nail was hammered into the McCoffin: In its latest report on home-buying trends, real-estate site Trulia declares: "The McMansion Era Is Over."

Just 9 percent of the people surveyed by Trulia said their ideal home size was over 3,200 square feet. Meanwhile, more than one-third said their ideal size was under 2,000 feet.

"That's something that would've been unbelievable just a few years back," said Pete Flint, CEO and co-founder of Trulia. "Americans are moving away from McMansions."

The comments echoed those made in June by Kermit Baker, the chief economist at the American Institute of Architects.

"We continue to move away from the McMansion chapter of residential design, with more demand for practicality throughout the home," Baker said. "There has been a drop off in the popularity of upscale property enhancements such as formal landscaping, decorative water features, tennis courts, and gazebos."

"McMansions just look and feel out of place today, given the more cautious environment everyone's living in," said Paul Bishop, vice president of research for the National Association of Realtors.

And homebuilders are heeding the call: In a survey of builders last year, nine out of 10 said they planned to build smaller or lower-priced homes.

Even in Texas, the land of go big or go home, they're downsizing.

Diane Cheatham, owner of Urban Edge Developers in Dallas, said today, the average size of home they're building is 2,200 square feet, down from 2,500 in 2005 - which was considered small for Dallas back then.

She said the trend there is more toward building green homes instead of big homes. Right now, they're building a 1,200-square-foot uber-green home for a couple that's downsizing from 3,000-square feet, Cheatham explained.

1,200? Some of the hair in Texas is bigger than that!

"We've never built one that small," Cheatham confessed, but added: "I think that's just a good example of the trend right now."

For a little historical context, 1,200 square feet was the average home size in America in the 1960s. That grew to 1,710 square feet in the 1980s and 2,330 square feet in the 2000s.

What's more, many in the real-estate business say they think this trend of downsizing, or "right-sizing," as Flint likes to call it, is here to stay.

"This is absolutely a long-term effect," he said. "Think of families with small children who've been foreclosed upon ... When these teenagers are in a position to buy a home, they won't want to go through these experiences they saw their parents go through."

Of course, the question becomes, what do we do with all these McMansions that have already been built?

It's tempting to make jokes about what you might do with a former McMansion but with crime on the rise in neighborhoods littered with abandoned McMansions, Christopher Leinberger, in an article for the Atlantic, asked a sobering question: Is this the next slum?

Luckily, people are starting to get creative: A film collective in Seattle has taken over a 10,000-square foot McMansion there, using it for both living and work space. They turned a wine closet into an editing room and tossed a green screen in the garage. And in a suburb of San Diego, one couple turned a former McMansion into a home for autistic adults.

The demise of the McMansion has stirred a growing chorus of murmurs in the real-estate community about the possibility that it may force a dramatic redesign of the suburban McMansion tracts into mini-towns of their own, turning these icons of excess into more practical spaces like offices, banks, grocery stores and movie theaters.

Though, given some of the poor quality of materials and craftsmanship, it begs the question, would it be better to just tear them all down and start from scratch?

Have some thoughts on what to do with former McMansions? Drop a comment in the box below. Or, email [email protected].

More from the Pony Blog at ponyblog.cnbc.com.
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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CSW

Situation: We have 8% more replies than the FCDC thread yet we both share 5 stars. This is not OK

Data FCDC still has a 12% lead on us in views, 138,000 to 122,000 but this is misleading because all but 2,200 of our views have come since October 12, 2009 while they started up in 2007. We are closing ground on them and should pass them in less than 2 months.

The thread which limits posts to only two words is the only thread with more replies than us but this is misleading too, they have say 7,000 replies but only 14,000 words. Our 5,000 replies probably average 150 words so we have 750,000 words to their measley 14,000 verbage. We have great articles and photos and videos and they only two words so we greatly exceed them.

Solution Recognize us as the best thread on your board by giving us a sixth star.


This is OK. Approved------------------- Disapproved---------------

Gary Hart
Director of Disbursements
CCLA 1971 to 1973

Okay, Blue, I've turned in my CSW, let's see if Emma approves it.

Endorsement #1 - recommend appvl. Mike Horton, Ethics Particle
 

Blue Spirit

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Find Her

The gentleman you speak of, I knew well though not intimately. He did it his way, making his own way without using his famous family name, Sinatra, to help him get ahead. Along his way, he found himself a wife of his own great magnitude, and a person who I was fortunate to know and who delivered an entire level of auditing of to me lasting many intensives. She and I formed a spiritual alliance in those several months of intensive auditing which left me forever a better and wiser person. I have lost touch with her now but the bond which I shared with her will always remain.

Of all the great hits which the Great Sinatra made famous, this is probably his signature song. Elvis among others also did a nice rendition of it. What a great song, what great lyrics! We can't all live the lives of a Sinatra or an Elvis but we can stand tall and live our own lives "our way"!
Lakey

Lakey, have you considered putting out a strong postulate to locate and communicate with her ?
It will work, if totally positive, no doubts paid attention to.
 
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Blue Spirit

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Emma Will Approve It

CSW

Situation: We have 8% more replies than the FCDC thread yet we both share 5 stars. This is not OK

Data FCDC still has a 12% lead on us in views, 138,000 to 122,000 but this is misleading because all but 2,200 of our views have come since October 12, 2009 while they started up in 2007. We are closing ground on them and should pass them in less than 2 months.

The thread which limits posts to only two words is the only thread with more replies than us but this is misleading too, they have say 7,000 replies but only 14,000 words. Our 5,000 replies probably average 150 words so we have 750,000 words to their measley 14,000 verbage. We have great articles and photos and videos and they only two words so we greatly exceed them.

Solution Recognize us as the best thread on your board by giving us a sixth star.


This is OK. Approved------------------- Disapproved---------------

Gary Hart
Director of Disbursements
CCLA 1971 to 1973

Okay, Blue, I've turned in my CSW, let's see if Emma approves it.

I'm sure Emma will approve it, as she left the CO$ and all of their "Now-I'm-Supposed-To's" behind a long time ago.

Even Hubbard has policy on not doing "Now-I'm-Supposed-To's"
Read the "Service" Policy Letters.
 
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Zinjifar

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As an honorary FCDCer, let me help our brother thread with what you're missing...

enlightenment is all very fine, but, you can't achieve nirvana without;

Chicks and Guns

chicks-guns01.jpg


Zinj
 

Blue Spirit

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Nice Model

With you? Me? Us? Upset? :confused2: Nah - everyone is 100% right 100% of the time and I'm 100% OK with that... at least half the time! :eyeroll::coolwink:



Here is a thumbnail of the last aviation project nearing completion winter before last - now in the hangar for some minor repair.

EP

That is a beautiful model. A Piper Cub it looks like.

I sometimes go out to the model aviation airport in Van Nuys near the full-size one. They have a 600 foot runway and every imaginable type of model, including the $3000-8000 pure jet engined ones which are fast and sound real cool, not noisy.
I've seen stunting helicopters and 8-10 channel bombers that do everything including dropping bombs.
I like the large-scale days with 8-12 foot wingspan models.

PS- Giving the benefit of the doubt, some beings can handle drugs and alcohol; I can't.
 

afaceinthecrowd

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That 421B was an aesthetic ship with its elliptical windows, long nacelles, and
curvilinear tip tanks.
What was the cruise speed ?

My Dad got his license at 70 yrs. old and bought a nice 182.
I mostly jumped out of 182's, rather than fly them.
Some of those 182's were so decrepit-looking that I was glad they made it to altitude so I could get out of them ! More than one had duck tape on the wing tips
or leading edges of the horizontal stabilizer !

I bet you don't know many who have hitchhiked on aircraft ?
I've hitchhiked on a Cessna 421, Piper Aztec, Cessna 310, Cessna 172 and Beech KingAir.
Fun and adventurous.

Yep…421’s are very nice looking ships, indeed. I had the full RAM aftermarket package and the Cruise Speed was 235 knots (270 mph—435 kph for land lubbers). Ceiling was 31,000 feet. With the gear-type engines 421’s are remarkably quite for a small, cabin class twin.

Jumping out of 172’s and General Aviation hitchhiking definitely qualifies you as one of the resident daredevils on the thread!!:yes: Very cool, Blue and your dad, too. :thumbsup:

Face:)
 

Blue Spirit

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OK By Me

In one of his early lectures, ol' Ron tells about how the really successful "movers and shakers", "captains of industry" and that ilk, truly are as personalities - he says ya might expect them to be serious, sober and industrious, etc - but he says NO! They are the biggest, non-serious "Pirates and Bums" you'd ever run into!

IAS "regges" and other regges used/use this as a good way to get public all fired up to go overboard with donations, etc.

They even had black eye-patches and pirate hats - particularly on the Freewinds to add colour to the regging.

Also, I kinda equate hitch-hikers, pilots, other adventurous souls in the P&B category - 'cause I usually like 'em a whole lot. :yes::biglove:

Hope that gives a bit of context,

EP

Thanks for spelling it out.

Yes, I know that quote and fully agree with it. I do qualify.

After all, I'm just a visitor to this planet, and wouldn't want to admit being
from here. :no:

I've been told by two recently that I have a spaceship.
Big problem: it isn't here and I forgot where it is. The game is to find it, as they won't tell where it is ! :unsure::nervous::confused2:
 

Blue Spirit

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Damn Damn

As an honorary FCDCer, let me help our brother thread with what you're missing...

enlightenment is all very fine, but, you can't achieve nirvana without;

Chicks and Guns

chicks-guns01.jpg


Zinj

Damn, Damn, I didn't get my share when I was there.

It is all their fault; they didn't crack my case. :duh::whistling:
 

Blue Spirit

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Questions

Yep…421’s are very nice looking ships, indeed. I had the full RAM aftermarket package and the Cruise Speed was 235 knots (270 mph—435 kph for land lubbers). Ceiling was 31,000 feet. With the gear-type engines 421’s are remarkably quiet for a small, cabin class twin.

Jumping out of 172’s and General Aviation hitchhiking definitely qualifies you as one of the resident daredevils on the thread!!:yes: Very cool, Blue and your dad, too. :thumbsup:

Face:)

Thanks for the admiration.
I don't consider myself a "daredevil" as I train well for whatever I do and consider safety rules sacrosanct, never violating them.
You know, of course, the old truism: "There are old pilots, and there are bold
pilots, but there are no old bold pilots."

I'm still adventurous, even though the body slows
me a little (all repairable, though). Raced my car 2 years ago and did better than expected. If I'd had good sense, which at that time I didn't, I'd have simply rented a racing shifter kart for the day. More fun and much cheaper.
With a repaired body, skydiving still beckons which is quite safe today and not so wasteful dollar wise.

That Cessna 421B sounded like a very nice ship. 270 is not very far off of the 333 for the Socata at maybe 10x the price. Also the 31,000 ceiling matches the Socata. Turbine engines are SO expensive. I read that they charge $8/gallon for kerosine, which is truly a ripoff, as it is a much more crude fuel than gasoline.
Without checking on Google, is the RAM package Supercharging I guess ?
Are the engines Continental or Lycoming ?
I briefly looked at some 421's on the net, but they didn't seem to of the caliber of yours. I'm guessing a used price of about $300,000 for your model.
It must have been a sad day when you parted with it ? :bigcry:
 
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