The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Blue Spirit]

A Couple of Short Stories

Airplanes!! Oh GAWD!! Gawd, not Airplanes!!

Okay, okay, (pant, pant pant) I am NOT going to sidetrack myself anymore than I already have to tell any airplane stories or talk airplanes.

The Socata looks like a real sweet machine.

I’ve had two Cessna’s... a 182T and a 421B.

Flying is F-U-N!!!

Face

That 421B was an aesthetic ship with its elliptical windows, long nacelles, and
curvilinear tip tanks.
What was the cruise speed ?

My Dad got his license at 70 yrs. old and bought a nice 182.
I mostly jumped out of 182's, rather than fly them.
Some of those 182's were so decrepit-looking that I was glad they made it to altitude so I could get out of them ! More than one had duck tape on the wing tips
or leading edges of the horizontal stabilizer !

I bet you don't know many who have hitchhiked on aircraft ?
I've hitchhiked on a Cessna 421, Piper Aztec, Cessna 310, Cessna 172 and Beech KingAir.
Fun and adventurous.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

I suspected (knew) it!

We iz awl 'Pirates & Bums" of the universe(S).

EP

 

[Blue Spirit]

Purist

This may well beat the hell outta that alkaline H2O shit, friends! And this is kinda how it goes at EP an the C/S's on occasion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsObbAI3H8M

Well, not to be a spoilsport, but I've not had a drink since I started flying airplanes.
Always wanted to be ready to fly on a nice day and 24 hours was better than the 8-hour rule.

I should tell you about the alcoholic airline pilot I had on one flight !

I even spit out the champagne at my wedding !

I would suspect this upsets about half the people on this board. So be it.

Well....................

 

[Blue Spirit]

I Don't Get It ?

We iz awl 'Pirates & Bums" of the universe(S).

EP

I can't put this in context, who and what are you talking about ?

 

[FoTi]

Yes FoTi, it's a lovely thought to have community centers which will really support the expression and creation of the arts by artists of all kinds.

Something good for us to work towards having!

Pepin, can I pick your brain? (And everyone else's) Sometime's it's GOOD to have an engineer on the boat!

Do negative ionizer machines help with health problems? Breathing? Mood? Pain reduction?

Are too many positive ions from all our electromagnetic-radiation emitting gear giving us fits?

Should I just go stand in the shower to accomplish the same thing as standing in the waves at the beach???

The boyfriend and I had a disagreement about this, and I had to walk him out to the end of the pier and buy him a beer to calm him down.

Thank you!

Yes, ionizers are wonderful. I've had at least one in my house ever since 1978. Now I have one that also is an ozonator. I don't keep them running all the time, just when I notice that it's needed. If you get an ionizer that also is an ozonator, the ozone will kill mold. I use mine more in the summer than the winter because the humidity encourages the growth of mold. If you live somewhere like some small coastal town in Oregon where the air is fresh all the time, you might not notice much difference, but if you live where there is air polution, pollen, mold, dust, santa ana winds aka as the witches winds, people smoke, pet odors and pet dander, allergies, asthma, or there are cooking odors in the home that you don't want there for some reason, there is a difference, sometimes it's quite noticeable.

Here's some info - on the Kangen ionizer for water.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyAzXrrHDKE

 

[Lawrence Toomajan]

About Kitti Georgius

Carmelo - Your post reminds me of 18 year old Kitty Georgius in CCLA Treasury when she was made Treasury Sec and my Senior when she had no staff hatting and I was 32 years old and fully hatted in Treasury. I had an expensive stereo sound system in treasury and played mainly classical music for hours during the day while I worked on Treasury functions When Kitty arrived as my Senior, everytime she got up from her seat to do something she would change the classical music to rock music. I told her not to touch my equipment and she just laughed. She had no concept of ownership or property. Finally, I rigged up the tuner so it was disabled and would always stay on the classical station. She then turned off the set everytime she walked by. Finally, I took my nice stereo back to my apartment where I was berthed and Kitty brought in a boom box. She turned it to heavy metal and played it loud. It gave me headaches and ruined my concentration when balancing the books, etc so I would get up and turn it down and she would get up and turn it back on full strength. Finally, I had it out with her and told her I could not work with that shit noise going on and that I was going to go talk to Yvonne and order it be shut down or I would refuse to work. She got the message and turned it down softer. I don't know why she didn't buy headphones and wear them instead and play it loud.

Liking a delicate fine art is often an uphill battle. Staff member Randy Mc Donald who was down in the CCLA basement near Treasury wanted it turned down when I was playing classical. He said that classical music was down tone. I asked him where he got that idea and he said that LRH had written that it was very downtone and should not be listened to. I asked him to produce the reference and he walked away in a huff. I did lower the volume for him however. Unlike Kitty, I did not try and force my tastes on Randy or anyone else. My Dir of Ram was Frances Pavlides who was an opera singer and loved classical music and my purchasing officer, Adele Vonnie, who was Mary Maren's Mother also loved it. Both of them detested Kitty's loud Heavy Metal as did I but Kitty tried to force us all to listen to it.

I better take Roger up on some of those processes to run if some charge comes up in my past. On the Yvonne stuff I could blow the charge by inspection. With Don Keeler, you told me he was a fine man of good character and I was able to blow the charge on him by inspection. Kitty Georgius, I can't blow the charge on her by inspection. I detest her, the little piece of shit. Maybe Leon or you or someone knows something about Kitty, such that she was dropped on her head by mistake when she was a Baby and sustained brain damage. Only having knowledge such as that supplied to me would give me enough data to go on so that I could blow my charge on her by inspection. Oh yes, Sandy Wilhere, now that she is dead, I let go of my charge on her and Maria Starkey, I stood up to her face to face and that prevented me from developing the charge in the first place. Out of the whole motley crew of Sea Org members whom I detested, only Kitty and Sue Anderson remain. Anderson no longer has any charge so it is just Kitty I need to handle.
Lakey

I have been reading your posts and can see you have some very extensive experience in Scientology going all the way back to the days of L. Ron Hubbard and the Apollo. That is impressive.

I also notice you had a great deal of contact with Kitti Georgius {who played a pretty important role in some pretty destructive things that happened earlier in my life when I was a New York and later Flag public Scientologist}. I have covered the subject of Kitti Georgius pretty thoroughly on my web site.

I have searched all over the internet for a real photograph of her and have only been able to turn up a group photo of her and other SO members with Debbie Cook in the courtyard of the Fort Harrison. It is not a good photo of her as she is looking down at the ground and all that is visible of her mostly is her hair. I really wanted to put a nice photo of her on the appropriate page of my site so that readers can get a visual image of what this woman may look like.

From all of your experience is there such a photo?

 

[Zinjifar]

peddle to the metal

Deliberate?

Zinj

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Oh Boy! I guess one of these days I gonna have to tell about the '55 Plymouth "Business Coupe" with the huge "hemi" engine that my wonderful Dad bought for me in '61!

But...prolly not about the girl who became my first wife and I enjoyin' "dessert first" before the advent of "The Pill".



EP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAZBbZ27xlM

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Thanks, EP.

All I can say 'bout this thread is, "I can't believe I read the whole thing. Belch!!"

Face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StRmpFPQpRs

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you

I can't put this in context, who and what are you talking about ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-jHRB2iiU

the Apollo thread is the Delta House

 

[lkwdblds]

Lawrence, can you provide a link to your site

I have been reading your posts and can see you have some very extensive experience in Scientology going all the way back to the days of L. Ron Hubbard and the Apollo. That is impressive.

Actually, Lawrence, I go back 3 years and 4 months before being on the Apollo. I told my Apollo story first, out of order, and 7 months later related my L.A. Org and CCLA story as a prequel. My dates were:
L.A. Org - June 1970 to October 1970
CCLA - October 1970 to October 1973
Apollo - October 1973 to Dec 1973

I also notice you had a great deal of contact with Kitti Georgius {who played a pretty important role in some pretty destructive things that happened earlier in my life when I was a New York and later Flag public Scientologist}. I have covered the subject of Kitti Georgius pretty thoroughly on my web site.

I have searched all over the internet for a real photograph of her and have only been able to turn up a group photo of her and other SO members with Debbie Cook in the courtyard of the Fort Harrison. It is not a good photo of her as she is looking down at the ground and all that is visible of her mostly is her hair. I really wanted to put a nice photo of her on the appropriate page of my site so that readers can get a visual image of what this woman may look like.

From all of your experience is there such a photo?

I have a perfect picture of Kitty in my mind. With a police type artist, I could give a perfect pictorial. She was between 5'5" to 5'6", stocky and a bit butch looking, though she was not gay. She had brown hair, trimmed kind of butch in the back, like a man's hair, and had these bangs in the front. Her face was oval, and her skin tone was a bit swarthy, a bit Mediteranean, as in Greek, she wore glasses with quite thick rounded metal lenses and squinted a bit since she was heavily near sighted. Her face was oval in shape and she had very smooth youthful skin (she was only 18). Her lower lip was large and full. Her figure was stocky as I said, breasts were slghtly above average in size and she was pretty strong in the shoulders and arms for a woman but her waist line did not taper in like a woman, it was pretty straight down and she had a large and firm rounded butt. I would say her measurement would have been something like 35-30-37. She probably weighed about 130 to 133 and never wore a dress or skirt but alway tight pants. She married Billy Kahn shortly before I left for Flag and was known as Kitty Kahn.

I saw her the last three times I went to Flag in Clearwater, 1991, 1992 and 1999. She had the same job which required her to wear khaki army type fatigues. She was posted near the NOTs PC waiting room. I would always say hello to her and she would answer hi, maybe ask me what service I was doing and then, the first two times, she told these other women in her department, "This guy was one of my juniors when I was at CCLA." The last time, she and I talked for a minute and one of her friends asked, "Who is that?" and she answered right in front of me, "He's one of my Juniors from CCLA Treasury." I was happy to see that she had the same job from 1991 to 1999 and was not being promoted. It was some mid level executive post.

I'd like to say that Yvonne made a big mistake making her my Senior but she did do a pretty good job as CCLA Treasury Sec. Adele Vonnie was able to transfer out of Treasury and get into Tech Training soon after I left and Kitty recruited Jim "Cash" Coonrad to replace me and Adelle combined. Frances, who was RAM worked well with Kitty as did Mark the Cashier. She was popular and well accepted by the Execs and staff in general.

I would like to link to your website and see how she screwed you up in New York and at Flag. To me she was only brash and immature but that was all I held against her. I didn't know of any real down side which she had. Could you provide a link please?

P.S. Lawrence, I just Googled your name and read your story on Ethercat's "Through the Door Interviews". It is apparent from your story that Kitty had something wrong with her and had some sort of mean streak within her. The type of ordeal you were put through, as wild as it is, is so typical of the crap which is done by various branches and locations of the Churches of Scientology. My cycle at Flag in 1999 was about as nutty as some of the stuff which you went through.

THESE ENORMOUS CYCLES OF BEING GIVEN THE RUN-A-ROUND AT THE CHURCH SEEM TO HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH HAVING UNGROUNDED, UNQUALIFIED AND UNHATTED PEOPLE OPERATING MANY OF THE KEY POSTS WITHIN THE ORGS. THESE PEOPLE, OFTEN IMMATURE CHILDREN, SUCH AS KITTY WAS BACK AT CCLA AS AN 18 YEAR OLD, ARE PLACED IN POSITIIONS OF POWER WHERE THEY PLAY KEY ROLES IN A PUBLIC PERSON'S LIFE! These kids are empowered by C of S, to them the most important and powerful froup in the entire universe. They literally become drunk with their unearned and undeserved power and they dramatize their "Power Trip" by wantonly introducing unusual and strange and unbelievable stops and hindrances to the making of progress of the people whom they are assigned to "help". Such immature people are told that is okay to lie or decieve because the guy is only a WOG, his family and kids are of no real importance to us because we are in the Sea Org and we are saving the entire universe. What difference does it make if we cause his business to be destroyed? The most good for the greatest numbers often requires that families and businesses be destroyed. No big deal, I mean the guys woggy goals are of no importance whasoever. He needs to have a severe reality adjustmant to get his attention so that he can let go of those games and see that the Sea Org is the only valid game. He has no right to spend his money as he sees fit, the money actually belongs to us, etc.... That is how these blokes think!
SO MUCH OF THIS STEMS FROM UNDESERVED AND UNEARNED EMPOWERMENT OF LUNATICS!!!

Lawrence, I feel for all you went through starting when you were only 15. It appears that you have hung in there and made things go right. I wish to acknowledge you for living through all of that and coming through what Kitty and others subjected you to, still standing and retaining your sanity. You will find that you are now among much saner individuals here on ESMB and particularly oon this thread. I am glad you have made your presence known here and hope that you become one of our regulars. You made it through the sewers of life in one piece and now you are amongst friends.

Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Two places that fit the title are St. Maarten Island and Hong Kong.
An interesting thing is that a wing generates a horizontal tornado coming off of each wingtip, which on a large airliner is very powerful.
I was landing at Dulles one day and a plane was disabled on the runway causing a 747 to abort its landing in front of me. I called the tower and told them I wanted to leave the area to avoid possibly hitting the 747's "wake turbulence" which can flip a small plane instantly.

If you want to have some fun sometime get close to a landing airliner on foot and be on a grassy area where it will knock you off of your feet when the
spinning tornado "wake turbulence" hits you.

 

[Blue Spirit]

Cracked Up On That One !

I cracked up on that one !

I wonder if he received the message during the flight ?

 

[Lawrence Toomajan]

I have a perfect picture of Kitty in my mind. Wwith a police type artist, I could give a perfect pictorial. She was between 5'5" to 5'6", stocky and a bit butch looking, though she was not gay. She had brown hair, trimmed kind of butch in the back, like a man's hair, and had these bangs in the front. Her face was oval, and her skin tone was a bit swarthy, a bit Mediteranean, as in Greek, she wore glasses with quite thick rounded metal lenses and squinted a bit since she was heavily near sighted. Her face was oval in shape and she had very smooth youthful skin (she was only 18). Her lower lip was large and full. Her figure was stocky as I said, breasts were slghtly above average in size and she was pretty strong in the shoulders and arms for a woman but her waist line did not taper in like a woman, it was pretty straight down and she had a large and firm rounded butt. I would say her measurement would have been something like 35-30-37. She probably weighed about 130 to 133 and never wore a dress or skirt but alway tight pants. She married Billy Kahn shortly before I left for Flag and was known as Kitty Kahn.

I saw her the last three times I went to Flag in Clearwater, 1991, 1992 and 1999. She had the same job which required her to wear khaki army type fatigues. She was posted near the NOTs PC waiting room. I would always say hello to her and she would answer hi, maybe ask me what service I was doing and then, the first two times, she told these other women in her department, "This guy was one of my juniors when I was at CCLA." The last time, she and I talked for a minute and one of her friends asked, "Who is that?" and she answered right in front of me, "He's one of my Juniors from CCLA Treasury." I was happy to see that she had the same job from 1991 to 1999 and was not being promoted. It was some mid level executive post.

I'd like to say that Yvonne made a big mistake making her my Senior but she did do a pretty good job as CCLA Treasury Sec. Adele Vonnie was able to transfer out of Treasury and get into Tech Training soon after I left and Kitty recruited Jim "Cash" Coonrad to replace me and Adelle combined. Frances, who was RAM worked well with Kitty as did Mark the Cashier. She was popular and well accepted by the Execs and staff in general.

I would like to link to your website and see how she screwed you up in New York and at Flag. To me she was only brash and immature but that was all I held against her. I didn't know of any real down side which she had. Could you provide a link please?
Lakey

Certainly. You may of course read the whole site or these excerpts for a brief update on Kitti Georgius Kahn:

I went to see the Flag Service Consultant in New York to open an account at Flag and begin making donations to pay for the auditing and training.

The Flag Service Consultant was a woman named Kitti Georgius Kahn but I was not told her name by her. Instead, the next year, she was the emcee of a Flag [FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]event in New York I went to. She told the audience her name at the event and that is how I learned it. The night I went to see her she refused to give me her name.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]I told her what I was doing there and why and she said "You know what? You've got a problem!" We talked more and after she finished pretending she was listening to me and understanding me t[/FONT][FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]he whole time she said "Look, I really don't have time for any of this. I'm really busy, OK? So, could you please uh..., leave?" I asked her if I should come back with money and she said "Why don't you?" I could not get her name, contact information of anyone else to talk with about the matter, any information about Flag services and rates or give her any money to open a Flag account. As I left she just sat looking at me irritated with her hands folded on top of her desk.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]I finally got an invitation in the mail to a Flag sponsored event in New York that I went to. [/FONT][FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif][FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]All the guest speakers had just returned from Flag with success stories about new auditing called New Era Dianetics for OT's they had gotten there. About 250 people showed up for the event. Kitti Georgius Kahn was the event's emcee. [/FONT][FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]The Australian government for their own reasons banned anyone from coming into their country in certain areas if it was to do business with Scientology. Kitti and guest speaker Jody Marshall went to Australia to sign Scientologists up for Flag services in one of the banned sectors. They both lied to Australian officials that they were going to Jody's sister's birthday party to get past the ban. Kitti and Jody did a "Public Confessional" to the audience of this crime saying that we were the first people they had mentioned this to thus far. Soon after, Kitti did a "Questions & Answers" and a guy asked "Where is L. Ron Hubbard these days?" and she said it wasn't any of his business. [/FONT][FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]I went backstage after the event and as I was talking Kitti came backstage and interrupted to burst out laughing at me and indicate that I was a joke. I said good night and left.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]But you should really read between the lines of these excerpts because she dots the entire scenario at all different points on the time track, so the link to the whole diary these excerpts were taken from can be found here:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times
New Roman,Times,serif]http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/part1.html[/FONT]

[/FONT]

 

[Blue Spirit]

Last On Stats

Lakey, your thread is ahead of the FCDC one on posts by 8%, a more meaningful stat.

I think you should CSW Emma for more stars.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Last night, my daughter and I were looking out over the City of San Francisco from the roof top of her condo. The lights of the buildings and the Bay Bridge, the stars, and the moon were gorgeous.

She and her boyfriend are going off to the redwoods to have some quiet time together. He lives in Brentwood and is working on a PhD (piled Higher and Deeper) at UCLA. She lives in the City and spends time traveling to the far parts of the globe.

His history doesn't include Scientology or anything of that sort.

She was at Alan's Dallas center when she was 15. She twinned with Roy Kerswill (whose step daughter I heard from today - talk about connections), who did the bc at the same time I did. She gave another Oat Tea / Class Vl a session that he said was the best session of his life.

My daughter's boyfriend has none of this in his life experience.

anyway, to cut to the chase, I suggested that she run power on him. Any good auditor could run it blindfolded with no meter. there are a number of us, who run it over the phone. i've run it on completely new people, when I thought it was appropriate, and it ran like gangbusters. (note to BB, that's what I ran on your friend, and why you were so impressed).

now, seemed like a good time to come out from the shadows and flip the page one more time past your momma's standard ole scientology processing rules.

There is good stuff in the tech. Hubbard was out to make a buck. I'm out to help. Power is truly a fine tool. May I humbly suggest to anybody, who can audit, to use it. It opens beings up. Quad flows really are cool.

Dex, do you want to add anything?

 

[Lawrence Toomajan]

I suggested that she run power on him. Any good auditor could run it blindfolded with no meter. there are a number of us, who run it over the phone. i've run it on completely new people, when I thought it was appropriate, and it ran like gangbusters. (note to BB, that's what I ran on your friend, and why you were so impressed).

now, seemed like a good time to come out from the shadows and flip the page one more time past your momma's standard ole scientology processing rules.

Pardon me, but did you just say that you audit Power Processes on people over the phone?
Over the telephone?
You audited someone on their Grades V & VA?
Class VII Auditor processes?

I ran a secondary engram one time, not even an engram, a secondary! And if I had been on
the phone when this took place I probably would have involuntarily dropped the phone and
not been able to "go back in session" with the phone auditor whether it was long distance or local
charges that were being applied.

This Scientology story is full of wonderful surprises at every turn.

"Telephone style auditing".

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

BTW

my posts are generally stream of consciousness. what I'm thinking. I can be writing to motivate or posting to entertain. I am not someone with a one track mind. For those who want a thread to stay on course, I'm not that person.

For those who want to talk tech, I can do it.

But really, I appreciate Emma's candor. There is a time to move on from being a Scientologist. There is another time to move on from being an Ex Scientologist.

There came a time, where I just reverted back to being a citizen of the world. In that regard, pretty much everything interests me. So, when I post about a great white shark, it's cuz I found it fascinating.

When I post cartoons and talk about sex, I'm deliberately pushing (funny) buttons because sex is a suppressed item in the current Co$, and I think people coming from it, need some healthier attitudes.

a friend's late husband's uncle had a hit with this Paul Anka tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ya7ZRlrEo

 

[lkwdblds]

Lawrence - Just a bit more to say.

Pardon me, but did you just say that you audit Power Processes on people over the phone?
Over the telephone?
You audited someone on their Grades V & VA?
Class VII Auditor processes?

I ran a secondary engram one time, not even an engram, a secondary! And if I had been on
the phone when this took place I probably would have dropped the phone and not been able
to "get back in to session" long distance or even locally so to speak.

This Scientology story is full of wonderful surprises at every turn.

"Telephone style auditing".

Lawrence - not to interrupt your comm cycle with Carmelo because you should PM him and work out some phone auditing with him but I just wanted to call you attention to the fact that I just added a PS onto what I wrote you earlier. I had Googled your name and read your article on "Through the Door Interviews" and commented at length, adding it onto my response as a PS, rather than making another post. Please go back and read my PS and then carry on with your dialogue with Carmelo.
Lakey

 

[Lawrence Toomajan]

P.S. Lawrence, I just Googled your name and read your story on Ethercat's "Through the Door Interviews". It is apparent from your story that Kitty had something wrong with her and had some sort of mean streak within her. The type of ordeal you were put through, as wild as it is, is so typical of the crap which is done by various branches and locations of the Churches of Scientology. My cycle at Flag in 1999 was about as nutty as some of the stuff which you went through.

THESE ENORMOUS CYCLES OF BEING GIVEN THE RUN-A-ROUND AT THE CHURCH SEEM TO HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH HAVING UNGROUNDED, UNQUALIFIED AND UNHATTED PEOPLE OPERATING MANY OF THE KEY POSTS WITHIN THE ORGS. THESE PEOPLE, OFTEN IMMATURE CHILDREN, SUCH AS KITTY WAS BACK AT CCLA AS AN 18 YEAR OLD, ARE PLACED IN POSITIIONS OF POWER WHERE THEY PLAY KEY ROLES IN A PUBLIC PERSON'S LIFE! These kids are empowered by C of S, to them the most important and powerful froup in the entire universe. They literally become drunk with their unearned and undeserved power and they dramatize their "Power Trip" by wantonly introducing unusual and strange and unbelievable stops and hindrances to the making of progress of the people whom they are assigned to "help". Such immature people are told that is okay to lie or decieve because the guy is only a WOG, his family and kids are of no real importance to us because we are in the Sea Org and we are saving the entire universe. What difference does it make if we cause his business to be destroyed? The most good for the greatest numbers often requires that families and businesses be destroyed. No big deal, I mean the guys woggy goals are of no importance whasoever. He needs to have a severe reality adjustmant to get his attention so that he can let go of those games and see that the Sea Org is the only valid game. He has no right to spend his money as he sees fit, the money actually belongs to us, etc.... That is how these blokes think!
SO MUCH OF THIS STEMS FROM UNDESERVED AND UNEARNED EMPOWERMENT OF LUNATICS!!!

Lawrence, I feel for all you went through starting when you were only 15. It appears that you have hung in there and made things go right. I wish to acknowledge you for living through all of that and coming through what Kitty and others subjected you to, still standing and retaining your sanity. You will find that you are now among much saner individuals here on ESMB and particularly oon this thread. I am glad you have made your presence known here and hope that you become one of our regulars. You made it through the sewers of life in one piece and now you are amongst friends.


Well Sir, my love, admiration and respect to you for as long as we are both around. If a lot more people, understood, and thought and felt the way that you do towards people, this world WOULD be a better place and your place would be in it.

If only somebody had a picture of her to put on the site for people to see this being in physical form.

Lawrence