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Blue Spirit

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Input is definitely what I'm looking for. and thank you.

for the near future, it is an opportunity for my wife and I to corrupt the grandchildren. We took them to a movie downtown in the streets on Friday and to the beach yesterday. It is a mad dichotomy, giving the twins happy, safe, push the envelope, life and feeling grunchy about their dad. But you gotta play the game.

I looked at the new book "Knockout" by Suzanne Somers in the bookstore.
She has become very knowledgeable on Cancer, and the book covers all types of Cancers and the actual doctors in the U.S. who are really healing it,
with their names and addresses. Some like Burzinski and Gonzales are already well known with reputations of effectiveness.

It also covers conventional treatments with good advice there.

Mexican Clinics for cancer are excellent and are like American hospitals which would be here but for the suppression.

Kevin Trudeau's books are also bold about revealing effective places of treatment.

Call me for more advice, if interested.
 

Blue Spirit

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I'll Second That..........

It never has ceased to awe me how many truly great beings have cat bodies. :thumbsup:

Mark A. Baker

and you are SO right on that. I've known more than a few.

I think they may be smart, in the sense of waiting out the Human bad times that are coming before taking one of those bodies again.
This would of course apply to the bigger being ones.
 
One needs to be alert to what definition/meaning one is using this word "belief/believe" to mean.

The colloquial use of it is not necessarily exact.

But either way, "belief" is a little late on the chain of things. Beliefs are always about or relative to extant things . . . though they can bring into being fixed conditions. But the fact is they are about an extant something that is either reinforced, altered, added to or such.

Running your little process above would reveal to you the opinions you've adopted about things, and you'd have some fun doing it . . . but it in and of itself is not likely to change a lot of anything unless you added some other action. Things like, lifting off the consequences of the belief, and possibly the why it was adopted, what did it solve, and such.

One of the key things to pull concerning "beliefs" (or operating paradigms, precepts, etc) are the visions, intentions and actions they lead you to or cause you to create. For it is this stuff that is consequent to the belief that produces the strife that we get hung up in. :yes: (In Luke's case, the vision he created of the future was that he couldn't do it. :duh: You see, that's what he put there as a result of predicting his future based on the belief he'd created.)

And then there are the moods locked up in them that are often hidden below the surface and which make the belief hard to fully perceive and deal with truthfully. In the Luke example with Yoda, he obviously was acting in and out of the mood of failure . . . and hopelessness . . . yet he accepted it all as OK and truth! :duh: So, unlocking the moods connected to one's beliefs is critically important. It is to be noted that the mood one is in when one creates a belief determines the type of belief created. In Luke's case, he'd apparently had an earlier fail, and in that state of fail and hopelessness he created the belief that continued that failure! :duh:

And then, there is the earlier why and how come you came to the belief . . . . this situation has to (if the belief is erroneous, limiting or damaging) be addressed and more optimumly handled . . . inventing a belief about something is not necessarily the smartest or correct way of handling situations :no:

And, I think I am not likely to run into any stern criticism on the comment that, "beliefs are very often not the truth of the situation." :no:

Though, they are important to run and handle with a correct process. Alan's "Thoughts are Things" R/D is brilliant at dealing with such.

R

Without ANY disagreement, may I ADD one other little look?

I've become a believer (deliberate playfulness with words), in running processes and incidents from other people's viewpoints.

Taking a mundane example:

Joe is frightened by a rock accidentally knocked loose by Karl. After running the charge off on Joe's end with Joe, have Joe run the incident from Karl's viewpoint.

This works just as easily with any F1-3 (flow one - other to self, flow two - self to other, flow three - others to others) creating in essence, 7 flows including F0 - self to self.

Long ago, I realized that we are all connected, and that running one side of an equation changed the other side. I've used "Hellos and OKs" for decades. This is an amazingly simple process that changes both your PC's universe, but also the terminal with whom you are running the process.

ie. Say "hello" to your Dad, and having your Dad say "hello" to you changes your universe and your Dad's universe too.

As a macro look to what I'm saying: when you see Clint Eastwood on the big screen, you live your life (for two hours) through Clint's eyes. call it empathy, call it the heaven's universe, we all like to view lives led through others' eyes. When that flow or (whatever you want to call it) gets fixed or ridged, charge is there.
 
Los Angeles, here is something that you can only envy

click here for pix:


http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Huge-...oViewer=/100820/ids_photos_wl/r1198969031.jpg

China's nine-day traffic jam stretches 100km


AFP/File – Vehicles on the road through the central business district in Beijing on August 4. Thousands of vehicles …
Slideshow:Huge China Traffic Jam
Mon Aug 23, 9:18 am ET
BEIJING (AFP) – Thousands of vehicles were bogged down Monday in a more than 100-kilometre (62-mile) traffic jam leading to Beijing that has lasted nine days and highlights China's growing road congestion woes.
The Beijing-Tibet expressway slowed to a crawl on August 14 due to a spike in traffic by cargo-bearing heavy trucks heading to the capital, and compounded by road maintenance work that began five days later, the Global Times said.
The state-run newspaper said the jam between Beijing and Jining city had given birth to a mini-economy with local merchants capitalising on the stranded drivers' predicament by selling them water and food at inflated prices.
That stretch of highway linking Beijing with the northern province of Hebei and the Inner Mongolia region has become increasingly prone to massive jams as the capital of more than 20 million people sucks in huge shipments of goods.
 

FoTi

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Most of the stuff comes from reading the internet - New York Times, Washington Post, San Jose Mercury, San Francisco Chronicle, Santa Cruz Sentinel, yahoo News, etc.

Some of it just e mailed around among friends.

I've always had a quirky taste, so I find quirky things that match my taste.

Thanks for the info. I love your quirky taste. :thumbsup:
 

FoTi

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I use the symbols ALWAYS while healing. I "draw" them on the "healee" when I'm done the hands thing. :yes:

For "the light"; I just envision absorbing light into my chi area and then releasing it in a direction or toward a target. This differs from the healing method of Reiki as I refined it whilst doing Reiki "distance healing". Per se, the sending of light is not traditional Reiki but then again these days there are hundreds of variations on the original method from Japan. I practice Western Usui Reiki, with a few mystical twists like the cat thing. :yes:

Why do you think the symbols are important?

I always felt kind of silly about using them and didn't see why they were necessary. :confused2:
 

FoTi

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Thank you so much for listening Stat! That young pianist is really amazing as is that young orchestra which he conducts. It is really a fantastic performance of an utterly incredible piece of music. I am going to Google the pianist and put a little more info here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ove_Andsnes

He is Norweigian and was born in 1970. He is a champion of his countryman, Edvarg Grieg.
Lakey

Yes, he is superb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_DT4DRxVA&feature=search
 

FoTi

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Well, my sweet, maybe they don't like being beamed with a huge, big TRO . . . . if you study the cats, you'll see their wide open eye stare is connected to an alert, unwelcome surprise or sense potential danger.

Even we humans tend to stare at that which is a threat.

The friendly blink of the cat is as TGZ described, it is a slow blink, sometimes not even a fully closed eye but only about seven-eights closed, and they slightly lower their head and shoulders.

Try slowly blinking at the cat (about 7/8 closed) while feeling friendly and loving toward it, and see what happens. Virginia and I find it works best with female cats. The males tend to be more into being loners.

Rog

Thanks. I'll try it. I wish I wasn't allergic to cats. When I pet them I end up with my eyes itching and if I'm in a house with a cat I end up with difficulty breathing sometimes.
 
But I'm really a woosie sort of guy. Though I don't drink beer much. Revolting stuff, with few exceptions.

I'm not much for drinking either, but the very BEST beer I've ever had was in The Land of the Kiwis. Ergo, I can only conclude that you really don't like beer at all. :coolwink:


Mark A. Baker
 

FoTi

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click here for pix:


http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Huge-...oViewer=/100820/ids_photos_wl/r1198969031.jpg

China's nine-day traffic jam stretches 100km


AFP/File – Vehicles on the road through the central business district in Beijing on August 4. Thousands of vehicles …
Slideshow:Huge China Traffic Jam
Mon Aug 23, 9:18 am ET
BEIJING (AFP) – Thousands of vehicles were bogged down Monday in a more than 100-kilometre (62-mile) traffic jam leading to Beijing that has lasted nine days and highlights China's growing road congestion woes.
The Beijing-Tibet expressway slowed to a crawl on August 14 due to a spike in traffic by cargo-bearing heavy trucks heading to the capital, and compounded by road maintenance work that began five days later, the Global Times said.
The state-run newspaper said the jam between Beijing and Jining city had given birth to a mini-economy with local merchants capitalising on the stranded drivers' predicament by selling them water and food at inflated prices.
That stretch of highway linking Beijing with the northern province of Hebei and the Inner Mongolia region has become increasingly prone to massive jams as the capital of more than 20 million people sucks in huge shipments of goods.

Oh, man! I'm glad I don't live there.
 

FoTi

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I received this in an email today.



After America , There is No Place to Go"


By: Kitty Werthmann

What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote.. I've never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.


In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.


The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna , Linz , and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.



We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria .. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.



We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.



After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.


Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.



Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:
Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.



Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.



My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn't do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.



Equal Rights Hits Home:
In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.



Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.



Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.



Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:
Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.


As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.



We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn't meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.




We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.




"Mercy Killing" Redefined:
In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.



As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.



The Final Steps - Gun Laws:

Next came gun registration.. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.



No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.



Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria . Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.



After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria. Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn't destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn't, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians.



This is an eye witness account. It's true...those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World.

Don't Let Freedom Slip Away!

"After America , There is No Place to Go"




Please forward this message to other voters who may not have it.

IN GOD WE TRUST

When the people fear their government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson




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Virginia and I find it works best with female cats. The males tend to be more into being loners.

Rog

I've found the opposite to be true. The males are very openly expressive of emotion whereas the females are less so. I would say that males can be harder to establish a relationship with at first however. They start out more "guarded" with strangers. That may account for the differences in our experiences.


Mark A. Baker
 
You are so right-on about this, Carmelo.

I know someone who is playing "Russian roulette" now on cancer.

Same nutty attitude of: "I can do anything I want, as I'm OT".
That attitude has killed many Scientologists.
Cancer seems to be their favorite disease.

The body has its own set of natural laws that demand attention.

Of course spiritual healing is possible, but constant nutritional abuse
is similar to using the brake and gas simultaneously in your car.
No common sense there !


I agree. It is not unreasonable to refuse medical treatment because a person, for reasons of his own, does not wish to undergo the treatment recommended as necessary to address the matter. However, to think that a person can simply "decide to be well" and have the body respond to that "postulate" by a complete reversal of the disease process is simplistic & wishful thinking.

Disease is a physical manifestation of a malformation or disruption in the processes of a living organism. Altering one's thoughts may well produce a "healing" in the sense of traditional native american medicine where an individual comes to terms with the apparent disruption of his life. But this is not a "healing" in the sense of a cure for the disease.

A change in mindset produces a state of peace and toleration. These are good things to have and may well prove helpful in dealing with the full course of a body's disruptions. But the problematic physical condition most often remains even though much of the mental anguish may be ameliorated. One's acceptance of that condition is much improved. Kubler-Ross wrote extensively on the importance of acceptance in dealing with the process of the experience of great loss.


Mark A. Baker
 

Zinjifar

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All of our 10 cats except the one who was adopted and the 3 born in-house are strays. Cat personalities vary tremendously but in general a common feature is that cats like *people* more than they like cats :) Once they get used to you anyway. Strange people are something else.

There's some difference between strays who were abandoned somewhere along the line and ferals who have never lived with people, but, in general, once they've lived with people for a while they tend to get more similar and I don't see much difference between males and females as to how they react with people.

The 'staring' thing is very real though between cats. But, at least once they're used to people, they don't seem to translate it to them. Speaking 'human' in body language is something they seem to be able to do fairly quickly. But, when they're staring at each *other* it's always 'hostile', although, sometimes the 'hostility' is play. Yes on the slow blinking, but, once they know you you don't have to practice it; they don't see you as competition :)

I love watching cats and their 'group dynamics'. And, they watch us with as much fascination.

Zinj
 
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China's nine-day traffic jam stretches 100km


AFP/File – Vehicles on the road through the central business district in Beijing on August 4. Thousands of vehicles …
Slideshow:Huge China Traffic Jam
Mon Aug 23, 9:18 am ET
BEIJING (AFP) – Thousands of vehicles were bogged down Monday in a more than 100-kilometre (62-mile) traffic jam leading to Beijing that has lasted nine days and highlights China's growing road congestion woes.
The Beijing-Tibet expressway slowed to a crawl on August 14 due to a spike in traffic by cargo-bearing heavy trucks heading to the capital, and compounded by road maintenance work that began five days later, the Global Times said.
The state-run newspaper said the jam between Beijing and Jining city had given birth to a mini-economy with local merchants capitalising on the stranded drivers' predicament by selling them water and food at inflated prices.
That stretch of highway linking Beijing with the northern province of Hebei and the Inner Mongolia region has become increasingly prone to massive jams as the capital of more than 20 million people sucks in huge shipments of goods.

What is often intentionally overlooked is that the FUNDAMENTAL basis of ALL problems involving environmental considerations and degradation of living environments is overpopulation. Gridlock is not the result of "too many cars". It is the result of too many people vying for available transportation corridors. Similarly with other aspects of environmental degradation.


Mark A. Baker
 

RogerB

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I received this in an email today.



After America , There is No Place to Go"


By: Kitty Werthmann

What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote.. I've never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.


In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.


When the people fear their government there is tyranny. When the government fears the people there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson


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Thanks for this little reminder fo history, FoTi.

For me it is s a reminder that the arrogant and the idiotic think thy know best, and when they get into positions of power, by whatever means, they then start to tell people what to do, how to do it and to tell them what is best for them.

This, of course, is also the history and downfall of the enterprise of Scn.

It is also the downfall of socialism, for socialists all think they know what is best for "others" . . . though they are dull enough to include themselves in the grouped "others."

A society that allows individuals the freedom to make their own decisions has demonstrated itself to be the better model . . . even though it is fraught with its own perils.

I say this at this moment as what I am seeing is a stealth shift toward government becoming more invasive and more into telling us what is right for us . . . and it is not good. And the current and coming economic/societal upheaval will only give the "government" further "justification" to control the population and increase its stealthy takeover and denial of our liberties.

It is something to be aware of for your own protection.

RogerB
 

FoTi

Crusader
Carmelo, another thing that I found helpful healthwise.........2 books......Eat Right 4 Your Type and Live Right 4 Your Type by Dr. D'Adamo. I have been using this for several years. It helped to handle certain body problems for me and whenever I violate it, it's noticeable to me and so I tend to go back on it. I cheat sometimes, but I always notice the change in my body when I do.
 
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