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nozeno

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The expert supposedly against alkaline water states that he prefers water to be alkaline and not acidic. On the Kangen machine, the drinking water is ph 9.5 where a neutral reading is 7.0. They are not offering drinking water at extremely high ph's of 11 and 12.

The key statement made by the supposed anti expert commentator is that "Free radicals can't exist in an alkaline environment. THAT IS KEY. Free radicals are what lead to aging and toxicity. If you want to slow down your aging and increase your health, you need to make your body and its organs alkaline. A ph just over the neutral level of 7.0, say 7.5 will not be alkaline enough if a person eats acidic foods and has acidic beverages. Just drinking 7.5 water will not be sufficient to neutralize the acidic environment. However, with 9.5 water, one can go ahead and eat their normal diet and the 9.5 water is sufficient to still create an alkaline environment in the body.

Both of these men had extremely flimsy arguments against drinking alkaline waters. The magic water of Lourdes, France are famous for their healing powers and people come from all over the world to get their hands on that water. There are also famous springs in Germany and India.

These guys just deal in generalities such as 2 million years of evolution have led to the human body runing best on acidic water. This is just opinion and counts for nothing. Huge numbers of anecdotal success stories far outweigh such silly comments as that.

Well, I am drinking alkaline water. I have not had any major benefits to date but no negatives either. Part of my problem is that I don't own a machine and so use the same water for 3 days or so before getting new water. The water stays alkaline for 3 to 4 days but other facets of it having to do with ionization and reduces the size of the molecule structure disapate in less than one day.
Lakey

Free the radicals

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Veda

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You're like a broken record Veda. My considerations and opinions
are not PR or lies.

I took the trouble to personally survey some people in the FZ. You don't speak for them.

What happens if one surveys people in the COS? Quick track
to ethics and expel declare!

Why did you remove the Ron's Org link from my quoted post? It's the largest FZ group after all.

For my own convenience, I probably should switch off my BS detector when you're around. And I'm immune to your 'how to win friends and influence people' schmoozing, so the sound is not muffled.

I'll try wearing earmuffs. :)
 

Ted

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Smoke and Mirrors

Just a few years after Lakey was a college nerd with slide rule in pocket, I studied computers. The instructors spent about an hour going over the function of that particular computer, then they got into theory of the electronic ones and zeros traveling data paths. At that point they lost me.

Knowing myself as I now do, I can say with certainty that I would have faired far better had the instructors stayed with the overall function of the machine and demonstrated the effects of various parts breaking down. After all, I was there to learn how to ~fix~ the machine, not build one. Then after learning to ~fix~ the machine, the minutia of data paths of ones and zeros would have been a welcomed bonus. I speak for myself, obviously. Others might disagree.

There is one thing I walked away with that has served me well over the years. That is the concept of a parity check. In computers and telecommunications it is more than a concept. It is a technological done deal.

For the sake of this simple communication you might view the primary, desired signal as the image. The parity is its partner, kind of a mirror on the primary signal. If both match, the primary is good or passable. If no match, we technicians look for what is going wrong.

You have in business as well as in scientology, stats to measure production. As much as I hate obsessive stat management and constant, bothersome collection, it is important to have this parity to get past the smoke and mirrors of hucksters, crooks, politicians, theetie-weeties, and so on. You also have eyes-on. Look, don't listen. These are parity checks. The process of living calls for, most often, something to appear ~in the physical universe~. The pc is scheduled to arrive at 3:00 p.m. The pc arrives. That "signal" is good. The pc's check clears the bank. That "signal" is good. Auditing question asked and answered. That "signal" is good. Life rolls forward.

Politicians produce some of my favorite parity errors: There are so many, so often that I will draw on just one of my favorites, that being John "I Have A Plan" Kerry when he ran against George Bush for office of the president. "I have a plan." This was Kerry's running refrain. My thought: This guy is a senator. If he had a plan, why did he not assume responsibility by introducing a bill to address the perceived problem long before his bid for president? He didn't. If he had a plan, he held back to use it for his own gain during the election. Or maybe he never had a plan. He never said what it was. Just saying he had a "plan" but never producing it, not even in part, eliminated him as a viable candidate in my view. No parity there between words and action.

My parity check on Obama says this president is FUBAR. FUBAR, in my day you would see that written, from time to time, on equipment ready to be trashed. Soldiers would say it means F'ed Up Beyond Any Recognition. We technicians would say it means F'ed Up Beyond Any Repair.

CoS is likely FUBAR.

As for "OT," Grades EPs, and so on, a parity check, in my estimation, is critical. This proofs a management-type person against non-delivery and violations of expectations. It proofs the pc or "OT" against the snow-job of registrars and marketing people. In the scientology organization, a parity check allows the person who pays the organizational bills the freedom to allow the "OT's" a relaxed atmosphere to sit around telling tall tales, while other beings who can actually sell books, train, process, and collect payment get the job done. Having run several organizations, I can stand somewhat in hubbard's defense on that matter. The business has to be run on substance, not cognitions and dreams.

Earlier on this Apollo thread we were talking about the value of actual experience and participation in life rather than thinking about it or remotely emoting about it and thus removing oneself from participation. To attain parity between thought and result a being has to get its metaphorical hands metaphorically dirty.

My morning post was prompted by this quote: "I think it will be found that experience, the true source and foundation of all knowledge, invariably confirms truth. - Thomas Malthus

Even in science, one postulates or advances a theory then goes about proving and/or disproving it through trial and error. Trial and error, that's getting one's hands dirty, and that's experience.

The Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus (13 February 1766 – 23 December 1834), was a British scholar, influential in political economy and demography.
 

Ted

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Ben Stein Has Reordered His Priorities

Ben Stein's Last "Monday Night At Morton's" Column.

How Can Someone Who Lives in Insane Luxury Be a Star in Today's World?

As I begin to write this, I "slug" it, as we writers say, which means I put a heading on top of the document to identify it. This heading is "eonlineFINAL," and it gives me a shiver to write it. I have been doing this column for so long that I cannot even recall  when I started. I loved writing this column so much for so long I came to believe it would never end.  It worked well for a long time, but gradually, my changing as a person and the world's change have overtaken it.

On a small scale, Morton's, while better than ever, no longer attracts as many stars as it used to. It still brings in the rich people in droves and definitely some stars. I saw Samuel L. Jackson there a few days ago, and we had a nice visit, and right before that, I saw and had a splendid talk with Warren Beatty in an elevator, in which we agreed that Splendor in the Grass was a super movie. But Morton's is not the star galaxy it once was, though it probably will be again.

Beyond that, a bigger change has happened. I no longer think Hollywood stars are terribly important. They are uniformly pleasant, friendly people, and they treat me better than I deserve to  be treated. But a man or woman who makes a huge wage for memorizing lines and  reciting them in front of a camera is no longer my idea of a shining star we should all look up to.

How can a man or woman who makes an eight-figure wage and lives in insane luxury really be a star in today's world, if by a "star" we mean someone bright and powerful and attractive as a role model? Real stars are not riding around in the backs of limousines or in Porsches or getting trained in yoga or Pilates and eating only raw fruit while they have Vietnamese girls do their nails.  They can be interesting, nice people, but they are not heroes to me any longer.

A real star is the soldier of the 4th Infantry  Division who poked his head into a hole on a farm near Tikrit,  Iraq.  He could have been met by a bomb or a hail of AK-47 bullets. Instead, he faced an abject Saddam Hussein and the gratitude of all of the decent people of the world.

A real star is the U.S. soldier who was sent to disarm a bomb next  to a road north of Baghdad.  He approached it, and the bomb went off and killed him. A real star, the  kind who haunts my memory night and day, is the U.S. soldier in Baghdad who saw  a little girl playing with a piece of unexploded ordnance on a street near where he was guarding a station. He pushed her aside and threw himself on it just as it exploded. He left a family desolate in California and a little girl alive in Baghdad.

The stars who deserve media attention are not the ones who have lavishweddings on TV but the ones who patrol the streets of Mosuleven after two of their buddies were murdered and their bodies battered and stripped for the sin of trying to protect Iraqis from terrorists.

We put couples with incomes of $100 million a year on the covers of our magazines. The noncoms and officers who barely scrape by on military pay but stand on guard in Afghanistan and  Iraq and on ships and in submarines and near the Arctic Circle are anonymous as they live and die.

I am no longer comfortable being a part of the system that has such poor values, and I do not want to perpetuate those values by pretending that who is eating at Morton's is a big subject.  There are plenty of other stars in the American firmament... the policemen and women who go off on patrol in South Central and have no idea if they will return alive; the orderlies and paramedics who bring in people who have been in terrible accidents and prepare them for surgery; the teachers and nurses who throw their whole spirits into caring for autistic children; the kind men and women who work in hospices and in cancer wards.

Think of each and every fireman who was running up the  stairs at the World Trade Center as the towers began to collapse. Now you have my idea of a real hero.  I came to realize that  life lived to help others is the only one that matters. This is my highest and  best use as a human. I can put it another way.

Years ago, I realized I could never be as great an actor as Olivier or as good a comic as Steve Martin...or Martin Mull or Fred Willard--or as good an economist as Samuelson or Friedman or as good a writer as Fitzgerald. Or even remotely close to any of them.  But I could be a devoted father to my son, husband to my wife and, above all, a good son to the parents who had done so much for me. This came to be my main task in life.

I did it moderately well with my son, pretty well with my wife and well indeed with my parents (with my sister's help). I cared for and paid attention to them in their declining years. I stayed with my father as he got sick, went into extremis and then into a coma and then entered immortality with my sister and me reading him the Psalms.

This was the only point at which my life touched the lives of the soldiers in Iraq or the firefighters in New York. I came to realize that  life lived to help others is the only one that matters and that it is my duty, in return for the lavish life God has devolved upon me, to help others He has placed in my path. This is my highest and best use as a human.

Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.

By Ben  Stein
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Can you say "Brilliant"?!

Just a few years after Lakey was a college nerd with slide rule in pocket, I studied computers. The instructors spent about an hour going over the function of that particular computer, then they got into theory of the electronic ones and zeros traveling data paths. At that point they lost me.

Knowing myself as I now do, I can say with certainty that I would have faired far better had the instructors stayed with the overall function of the machine and demonstrated the effects of various parts breaking down. After all, I was there to learn how to ~fix~ the machine, not build one. Then after learning to ~fix~ the machine, the minutia of data paths of ones and zeros would have been a welcomed bonus. I speak for myself, obviously. Others might disagree.

There is one thing I walked away with that has served me well over the years. That is the concept of a parity check. In computers and telecommunications it is more than a concept. It is a technological done deal.

For the sake of this simple communication you might view the primary, desired signal as the image. The parity is its partner, kind of a mirror on the primary signal. If both match, the primary is good or passable. If no match, we technicians look for what is going wrong.

You have in business as well as in scientology, stats to measure production. As much as I hate obsessive stat management and constant, bothersome collection, it is important to have this parity to get past the smoke and mirrors of hucksters, crooks, politicians, theetie-weeties, and so on. You also have eyes-on. Look, don't listen. These are parity checks. The process of living calls for, most often, something to appear ~in the physical universe~. The pc is scheduled to arrive at 3:00 p.m. The pc arrives. That "signal" is good. The pc's check clears the bank. That "signal" is good. Auditing question asked and answered. That "signal" is good. Life rolls forward.

Politicians produce some of my favorite parity errors: There are so many, so often that I will draw on just one of my favorites, that being John "I Have A Plan" Kerry when he ran against George Bush for office of the president. "I have a plan." This was Kerry's running refrain. My thought: This guy is a senator. If he had a plan, why did he not assume responsibility by introducing a bill to address the perceived problem long before his bid for president? He didn't. If he had a plan, he held back to use it for his own gain during the election. Or maybe he never had a plan. He never said what it was. Just saying he had a "plan" but never producing it, not even in part, eliminated him as a viable candidate in my view. No parity there between words and action.

My parity check on Obama says this president is FUBAR. FUBAR, in my day you would see that written, from time to time, on equipment ready to be trashed. Soldiers would say it means F'ed Up Beyond Any Recognition. We technicians would say it means F'ed Up Beyond Any Repair.

CoS is likely FUBAR.

As for "OT," Grades EPs, and so on, a parity check, in my estimation, is critical. This proofs a management-type person against non-delivery and violations of expectations. It proofs the pc or "OT" against the snow-job of registrars and marketing people. In the scientology organization, a parity check allows the person who pays the organizational bills the freedom to allow the "OT's" a relaxed atmosphere to sit around telling tall tales, while other beings who can actually sell books, train, process, and collect payment get the job done. Having run several organizations, I can stand somewhat in hubbard's defense on that matter. The business has to be run on substance, not cognitions and dreams.

Earlier on this Apollo thread we were talking about the value of actual experience and participation in life rather than thinking about it or remotely emoting about it and thus removing oneself from participation. To attain parity between thought and result a being has to get its metaphorical hands metaphorically dirty.

My morning post was prompted by this quote: "I think it will be found that experience, the true source and foundation of all knowledge, invariably confirms truth. - Thomas Malthus

Even in science, one postulates or advances a theory then goes about proving and/or disproving it through trial and error. Trial and error, that's getting one's hands dirty, and that's experience.

The Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus (13 February 1766 – 23 December 1834), was a British scholar, influential in political economy and demography.



This post is brilliant! The part which I put in bold print above is ultra brilliant to me. John Kerry struck me as a phoney but it was hard to explain why without going into paragraphs of signifcances....so very BORING to do. Ted zeroes in on this in a couple of sentences.

Something about Obama is wrong for this country, very wrong. He is just so very glib, trying to say things which appeal to all people, without giving specifics. He is a master of the art of glibness. People such as Kerry and Obama can not say what they really believe because if they did, they would not get more than a third of the votes. C of S is in the same boat, if they boldly stated their true positions, they would be out of business in a few months. These two individuals and this one organization share in common the needed to never reveal their true intentions and/or agendals. Maybe having to rely on shore stories, smooth glibness and a line of bullshit, all reinforced by strong usage of PRO tech is the major characteristic of FUBAR individuals and groups.
BTW, I will grant that the last Bush, messed things up and Obama inherited a horrible situation when he came into office, but he has been in nearly two years now but he is still blaming Bush as the source of all problems. His fixes have not really fixed what they were supposed to and all carry huge debts and liabilities which will have to be faced by future generations.
Lakey
 
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Jacob

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The expert supposedly against alkaline water states that he prefers water to be alkaline and not acidic. On the Kangen machine, the drinking water is ph 9.5 where a neutral reading is 7.0. They are not offering drinking water at extremely high ph's of 11 and 12.

The key statement made by the supposed anti expert commentator is that "Free radicals can't exist in an alkaline environment. THAT IS KEY. Free radicals are what lead to aging and toxicity. If you want to slow down your aging and increase your health, you need to make your body and its organs alkaline. A ph just over the neutral level of 7.0, say 7.5 will not be alkaline enough if a person eats acidic foods and has acidic beverages. Just drinking 7.5 water will not be sufficient to neutralize the acidic environment. However, with 9.5 water, one can go ahead and eat their normal diet and the 9.5 water is sufficient to still create an alkaline environment in the body.

Both of these men had extremely flimsy arguments against drinking alkaline waters. The magic water of Lourdes, France are famous for their healing powers and people come from all over the world to get their hands on that water. There are also famous springs in Germany and India.

These guys just deal in generalities such as 2 million years of evolution have led to the human body runing best on acidic water. This is just opinion and counts for nothing. Huge numbers of anecdotal success stories far outweigh such silly comments as that.

Well, I am drinking alkaline water. I have not had any major benefits to date but no negatives either. Part of my problem is that I don't own a machine and so use the same water for 3 days or so before getting new water. The water stays alkaline for 3 to 4 days but other facets of it having to do with ionization and reduction the size of the molecule structure dissipate in less than one day.
Lakey

Kagen water goes to mouth? Then to stomach intesines for body to use?

Stomach Ph has 2.0! Strong acid. What happen ph then of Kagen water?

Logics fool you. Pure water Ph of 7. Science better truth from advertising.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Have it your way, definitely don't drink it!

Kagen water goes to mouth? Then to stomach intesines for body to use?

Stomach Ph has 2.0! Strong acid. What happen ph then of Kagen water?

Logics fool you. Pure water Ph of 7. Science better truth from advertising.

Thanks Janos! You did not convince me but I do recommend that you do not drink that water. It is not for you so don't drink it. I am reminded of the old Burger King commercial which featured a jingle, "Have it your way!" There will always be controvery in issues regarding health, regarding politics, regarding religions, and on and on. I think it is important for people to state their opinions and follow their own hearts. As The Magic Thetan has stated, "We are all right, each of us, in our own universes. There it is! Follow your heart.
Gary
 

Terril park

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Why did you remove the Ron's Org link from my quoted post? It's the largest FZ group after all.

For my own convenience, I probably should switch off my BS detector when you're around. And I'm immune to your 'how to win friends and influence people' schmoozing, so the sound is not muffled.

I'll try wearing earmuffs. :)

Well I was a bit pissed when you called me a liar.

But you TOTALLY redeemed yourself with your advice on how
to properly make posts here!

Reminds me of the rather touching example of Andreas Heldel Lund
helping Tory in her time of anguish.

Thank you SO much.

Yes the earmuffs are a good idea.

I'd hate to waste your valuable time by asking for you to be my
mentor.

You have so many more important things to do than mentor
this poor grasshopper!
 

Jacob

Patron
Thanks Janos! You did not convince me but I do recommend that you do not drink that water. It is not for you so don't drink it. I am reminded of the old Burger King commercial which featured a jingle, "Have it your way!" There will always be controvery in issues regarding health, regarding politics, regarding religions, and on and on. I think it is important for people to state their opinions and follow their own hearts. As The Magic Thetan has stated, "We are all right, each of us, in our own universes. There it is! Follow your heart.
Gary

With logics of this style many are fooled of scientology.

My thinks is to be seller of kragen to be rich. To be user is no look.

Magic thetan say "in own universe". He wise. He one to be good new guru if wanted such. Kagen water in share of universes.

My heart say dance drink and love of the women, and no need for guru or magic water.

Janos Arany famous poet.

I simple old Jacob.
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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How about "Master's Classes"...

Purple Haze called me out of the blue today!

...snip...

PS - PURPLE HAZE'S NEEDS SOME SUGGESTIONS She is seriously considering working out there at that Center perhaps one or two days a week. The Center has no Scio based tech at all except my squirrel assist process. She was thinking of offering some introductroy service there such as "Life Repair". The questions to be addressed are what a practitioner should name their Therapy and how the practitioner should refer to herself; BTW, I could use suggestions for naming my therapy as well. Purple does not want to violate any Copyright laws or use any registered trademark terms in offering say, a slightly modified Life Repair to the general public. Also what should she refer to herself as, an Auditor, a Processor, a Therapist, an Independent field Scientologist, etc. For me, since I am using Shiatsu massage, I can call myself a massage therapist so I don't face her problem.

There is good counsel in this series for Purple...or any other who seeks to always improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaUrr52a0A

EP
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Are you interested in selling Kangen Water, send me PM

With logics of this style many are fooled of scientology.

My thinks is to be seller of kragen to be rich. To be user is no look.

Magic thetan say "in own universe". He wise. He one to be good new guru if wanted such. Kagen water in share of universes.

My heart say dance drink and love of the women, and no need for guru or magic water.

Janos Arany famous poet.

I simple old Jacob.

Jacob, if you are interested in selling Kangen water to make a lot of money, send me a Private Message. No registratiion fees of any kind are required to sell the product, absolutely zero. Also, you can get all the water you need at no charge. You yourself will probably not be drinking it but you will need to offer it to others if you hope to make a sale to them. I don't know though Jacob, its pretty hard to sell something you do not believe in and think may actually be harmful. If you think it might cause harm to people, I would recommend not getting involved in the sales part of the business either.
Lakey
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Sorry Hats…aint gots no pics…‘ceptin’ my memories.:confused2:

5 and 5A, R6EW, Clear were fairly new as was KSW the early Ethics Conditions but there wasn’t the rabid ness and things weren’t all that serious. Saint Hill was a place somewhere “in the clouds” and half a world away. The SO wasn’t “Senior Management”, the Apollo wasn’t “Flag” yet and there wasn’t any “Command Intention”. Good folks were having fun, helping each other and there was a palpable “spirit of play”. One’s “Case” wasn’t some dreadful, dark and dangerous ogre and Sec Checking was not yet the tool of control and enforcement. Field Auditors and Practices were respected and generally admired by the “body politic” and most folks were kinda “doing their own thing” within a moderately “large tent”. But the times were a changin'. At least that’s my “take” on it, anyway.:coolwink:

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afaceinthecrowd

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Just a few years after Lakey was a college nerd with slide rule in pocket, I studied computers. The instructors spent about an hour going over the function of that particular computer, then they got into theory of the electronic ones and zeros traveling data paths. At that point they lost me.

Knowing myself as I now do, I can say with certainty that I would have faired far better had the instructors stayed with the overall function of the machine and demonstrated the effects of various parts breaking down. After all, I was there to learn how to ~fix~ the machine, not build one. Then after learning to ~fix~ the machine, the minutia of data paths of ones and zeros would have been a welcomed bonus. I speak for myself, obviously. Others might disagree.

There is one thing I walked away with that has served me well over the years. That is the concept of a parity check. In computers and telecommunications it is more than a concept. It is a technological done deal.

For the sake of this simple communication you might view the primary, desired signal as the image. The parity is its partner, kind of a mirror on the primary signal. If both match, the primary is good or passable. If no match, we technicians look for what is going wrong.

You have in business as well as in scientology, stats to measure production. As much as I hate obsessive stat management and constant, bothersome collection, it is important to have this parity to get past the smoke and mirrors of hucksters, crooks, politicians, theetie-weeties, and so on. You also have eyes-on. Look, don't listen. These are parity checks. The process of living calls for, most often, something to appear ~in the physical universe~. The pc is scheduled to arrive at 3:00 p.m. The pc arrives. That "signal" is good. The pc's check clears the bank. That "signal" is good. Auditing question asked and answered. That "signal" is good. Life rolls forward.

Politicians produce some of my favorite parity errors: There are so many, so often that I will draw on just one of my favorites, that being John "I Have A Plan" Kerry when he ran against George Bush for office of the president. "I have a plan." This was Kerry's running refrain. My thought: This guy is a senator. If he had a plan, why did he not assume responsibility by introducing a bill to address the perceived problem long before his bid for president? He didn't. If he had a plan, he held back to use it for his own gain during the election. Or maybe he never had a plan. He never said what it was. Just saying he had a "plan" but never producing it, not even in part, eliminated him as a viable candidate in my view. No parity there between words and action.

My parity check on Obama says this president is FUBAR. FUBAR, in my day you would see that written, from time to time, on equipment ready to be trashed. Soldiers would say it means F'ed Up Beyond Any Recognition. We technicians would say it means F'ed Up Beyond Any Repair.

CoS is likely FUBAR.

As for "OT," Grades EPs, and so on, a parity check, in my estimation, is critical. This proofs a management-type person against non-delivery and violations of expectations. It proofs the pc or "OT" against the snow-job of registrars and marketing people. In the scientology organization, a parity check allows the person who pays the organizational bills the freedom to allow the "OT's" a relaxed atmosphere to sit around telling tall tales, while other beings who can actually sell books, train, process, and collect payment get the job done. Having run several organizations, I can stand somewhat in hubbard's defense on that matter. The business has to be run on substance, not cognitions and dreams.

Earlier on this Apollo thread we were talking about the value of actual experience and participation in life rather than thinking about it or remotely emoting about it and thus removing oneself from participation. To attain parity between thought and result a being has to get its metaphorical hands metaphorically dirty.

My morning post was prompted by this quote: "I think it will be found that experience, the true source and foundation of all knowledge, invariably confirms truth. - Thomas Malthus

Even in science, one postulates or advances a theory then goes about proving and/or disproving it through trial and error. Trial and error, that's getting one's hands dirty, and that's experience.

The Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus (13 February 1766 – 23 December 1834), was a British scholar, influential in political economy and demography.

Another v-e-r-y nice post, Ted.:thumbsup::yes:

Face:)
 

afaceinthecrowd

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"The tree that escaped the crowded forest" ...escaped from the crowded forest of Manhattan, I've heard he was refering to. Also refers to the architecture... well rooted strong central core with cantilevered floors.

Mr. Wright also built a house for Harold Price Sr. in Arizona. While he was in
Bartlesville durring consruction of the Price Tower, he thought Harold Jr. and his wife Carolyn needed a house so he drew up "Hillside" and built it also while he was around. It's a little seen property. It's on a gated property and can't be seen from anywhere off the property.

Thanks, Sock1...cool pics and info:thumbsup:

The 3 story building in the foreground was (outside of the town's water tower and grain elevator) the next tallest building in town when I was there years ago.

As incongruous with the surroundings as the structure is, somehow it really “works” and FLW was truly a genius talent, IMO.:yes:

Face:)
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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PERCEPTION

. . . Something To Think About . . .


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THE SITUATION

In Washington , DC , at a Metro Station, on a cold January morning in 2007, this man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time, approximately 2,000 people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. After about 3 minutes, a middle-aged man noticed that there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds, and then he hurried on to meet his schedule.


About 4 minutes later:

The violinist received his first dollar. A woman threw money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk.


At 6 minutes:
A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again.


At 10 minutes:
A 3-year old boy stopped, but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head the whole time. This action was repeated by several other children, but every parent - without exception - forced their children to move on quickly.


At 45 minutes:
The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32.

After 1 hour:
He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed and no one applauded. There was no recognition at all.

No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, a grammy winning violinist. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars. Two days before, Joshua Bell sold-out a theatre in Boston where the seats averaged $100 each to sit and listen to him play the same music.


This is a true story. Joshua Bell, playing incognito in the D.C. Metro Station, was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and people's priorities.

This experiment raised several questions:

*In a common-place environment, at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty?

*If so, do we stop to appreciate it?

*Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context?

Oh let me assure you that I would have stopped - and stayed as long as he was willing to play. :yes::happydance:

No thought required! :no:

Not too long ago they had wonderful performers singing opera in Grand Central Station...I stopped there too.

And, oddly enough, when I stop... a crowd seems to gather and the experience is thus magnified. :confused2::whistling:

Mike, EP
 
I am sure there's a lot more. :yes:

One of the cool things about going to the music center in la is that there are often young musicians out front performing. Definitely adds to the enjoyment and well worth showing up early to enjoy whatever is playing in the plaza.

We've a few regular street musicians in parts of long beach too. Some are pretty fair. One guy I've seen around plays a piano. He's got it loaded in the back of a pick-up. He drives around to a likely spot and then parks & plays.


Mark A. Baker
 
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