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Hatshepsut

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Palsy Cline is the only karaoke I can do well. I have everything. It's amazing the difference a good studio and record producer Owen Bradley had in changing her from fantastic to Unbelievable. Those last two yrs of her recording career etched her name into history permanently. I grew up listening to her as a babe out in the Mojave desert where no one cares if you crank it up loud. Mom used to sing Poor Man's Roses and San Antonio Rose, You Belong to Me. Come to think about it, some of those LPs were an 8th in thick printed on one side." In the big rock candy mountain the houses are built of ....:D
Tex Ritter, Gogi Grant and the Wayward Wind. Patti Page and How Much is that Doggie in the Window. Oh what a savvy tot in the ways of love gone amiss I became. At 6 yrs I could wail with the best. Thank god, I grew out of it...
 
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Palsy Cline is the only karaoke I can do well. I have everything. It's amazing the difference a good studio and record producer Owen Bradley had in changing her from fantastic to Unbelievable. Those last two yrs of her recording career etched her name into history permanently. I grew up listening to her as a babe out in the Mojave desert where no one cares if you crank it up loud. Mom used to sing Poor Man's Roses and San Antonio Rose, You Belong to Me. Come to think about it, some of those LPs were an 8th in thick printed on one side." In the big rock candy mountain the houses are built of ....:D
Tex Ritter, Gogi Grant and the Wayward Wind. Patti Page and How Much is that Doggie in the Window. Oh what a savvy tot in the ways of love gone amiss I became. At 6 yrs I could wail with the best. Thank god, I grew out of it...

My dad used to sing San Antonio Rose and Big Rock Candy Mountain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKk_kPmAk4

Bob Wills' sing along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7rLA9Jm1I

Patsy Cline puts in some licks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OXEpg-t6nA&feature=related
 
a quick comment

this thread, with feedback from the start of my participation, has really been a blessing. Other than my friends, who've known me forever, nobody has ever known or cared about MY FULL SPECTRUM of INTERESTS like: old radio shows, Broadway shows, shit kickin' music, auditing that actually delivers, the evils of the Co$, geek games, etc

I usually, when meeting someone only show a slice of the pie that is me.

Anybody who reads and listens to these posts gets a good rudimentary education in a plethora of topics.

This is fun SHARING, getting feedback, listening to others' favs, reading and rethinking based on others' posts. What a kick this thread is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM
 

Leon

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Patsy Cline! ! ! My Lawd I haven't heard that voice for many many years. Lovely though - it always was, in spite of the tear-jerker tone level that all of her songs had. But even that can be fun to indulge in once in a while.

Thanks CO.
 

Ted

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Random Catching Up

this thread, with feedback from the start of my participation, has really been a blessing. Other than my friends, who've known me forever, nobody has ever known or cared about MY FULL SPECTRUM of INTERESTS like: old radio shows, Broadway shows, shit kickin' music, auditing that actually delivers, the evils of the Co$, geek games, etc

I usually, when meeting someone only show a slice of the pie that is me.

Anybody who reads and listens to these posts gets a good rudimentary education in a plethora of topics.

This is fun SHARING, getting feedback, listening to others' favs, reading and rethinking based on others' posts. What a kick this thread is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM



Ya. Live communication, Axiom 51 and all that implies, evident here.

I learned manners watching old Cary Grant movies on late afternoon TV. We had only 3 stations in those days coming out of NYC.

I am still a fan of '50s musicals. What a great era in Hollywood that was.

I really like Barbra Streisand, for her singing not her politics. I can separate the two. I really enjoy San Francisco, too. No, I am not gay.

The '50s and early '60s were a great time for a kid to be growing up.

I will never forget riding the school bus home in the country with this song blasting on the loudspeaker while the bus bounced along an old country road:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUb9jTdLUu0

And girls in dresses. I just love girls in dresses. But not poodle skirts so much.

Summer of '42, now there was a movie that still speaks to me.

Jennifer O'Neil in that blue and white patterned dress... :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMxX5MGuHI&feature=related


Bach on guitar or lute, about the only Bach I like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mZvdGAGlOo&feature=related


Okay, now I think I am caught up for the time being. :yes:
 

lkwdblds

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More Bing but with the Andrews Sisters!

My wife and I went to Der Bingle's last concert at the Chronicle Amphetheatre in Concord, CA. He was really fine.

He lived up the San Francisco peninsula too. He used to go to Giants games, not wearing a wig. He went unrecognized.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFS6UXi4DB4

I am from 5 to 10 years older than a lot of you old timers posting your nostalgia (born in Dec, 1939). When I was tiny, the Andrews Sisters, Patti, Laverne and Maxine from Minneapolis were in their hay day and often recorded with Bing. Here is one of the best of those collaborations. "Don't Fence Me In" from 1944!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5OoiWGygq4&NR=1

Here is perhaps the Andrews Sister best solo, Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy from Company B" recorded in 1941 while shooting the Abbot and Costello movie, "Buck Privates"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wiVkdVPGoY

I first saw this in 1946 as a 6 year old, going to the Saturday Matinee, cost 9 cents to get in, featured 2 feature length movies, 5 cartoons, the Movie Tone news reel plus previews of coming attractions. Small candies were 6 cents and popcorn and large candies such as all day suckers were 12 cents. For 21 cents a head, the parents could get rid of their kids for the entire afternoon and have some peace of mind. Every Saturday from around 1946 to 1950 a group of about 6 of us neighborhood kids would attend the Saturday Matinee and be out of our parents hair for about 5 full hours. We kids just loved it!

I never forgot Patti, La Verne and Maxine and that rendition of Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy was ingrained in my mind for ever. Patti Andrews, the youngest and the one who sang the solos for them is still alive and is well into her 90's. I read something by John Travolta that just before he landed his big role in Welcome Back Kotter and became a big star, he was dancing in some New York production and got some advice from Patti Andrews, who was also in the cast. She told him that he was good and told him to shoot for a high goal and that he would make it big.
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Ted

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I am from 5 to 10 years older than a lot of you old timers posting your nostalgia (born in Dec, 1939). When I was tiny, the Andrews Sisters, Patti, Laverne and Maxine from Minneapolis were in their hay day and often recorded with Bing. Here is one of the best of those collaborations. "Don't Fence Me In" from 1944!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5OoiWGygq4&NR=1

Here is perhaps the Andrews Sister best solo, Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy from Company B" recorded in 1941 while shooting the Abbot and Costello movie, "Buck Privates"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wiVkdVPGoY

I first saw this in 1946 as a 6 year old, going to the Saturday Matinee, cost 9 cents to get in, featured 2 feature length movies, 5 cartoons, the Movie Tone news reel plus previews of coming attractions. Small candies were 6 cents and popcorn and large candies such as all day suckers were 12 cents. For 21 cents a head, the parents could get rid of their kids for the entire afternoon and have some peace of mind. Every Saturday from around 1946 to 1950 a group of about 6 of us neighborhood kids would attend the Saturday Matinee and be out of our parents hair for about 5 full hours. We kids just loved it!

I never forgot Patti, La Verne and Maxine and that rendition of Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy was ingrained in my mind for ever. Patti Andrews, the youngest and the one who sang the solos for them is still alive and is well into her 90's. I read something by John Travolta that just before he landed his big role in Welcome Back Kotter and became a big star, he was dancing in some New York production and got some advice from Patti Andrews, who was also in the cast. She told him that he was good and told him to shoot for a high goal and that he would make it big.
Lakey


I am a major fan of the Andrews Sisters!

Lakey, check out the Puppini Sisters. They model after the Andrews Sisters and the '40s dress:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZXxFFsZTQ&feature=fvw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjvRDTIiMTg&feature=related

They do '50s stuff, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZStYgWrOI


And '80s pop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzQSc4h0ec&feature=related

And disco:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9gYHkGutU0&feature=related


In the midst of rap and hip-hop, I am greatly relieved the older stuff has not died out.
 

lkwdblds

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Amazing, Patti, Laverne & Maxine, still live!

Amazing Ted! It's like a time warp, Patti, LaVerne and Maxine seem to be still alive and singing through the Puppini Sisters. Their lead singer is a dead ringer sound alike for Patti.

It is good to know about them for all we Andrews Sisters fans!!!
Lakey
 

Ted

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The Dalai Lama Says...

Dalai Lama: "To familiarize ourselves with the virtue of patience, it is very helpful to think of adversity not so much as a threat to our peace of mind but rather as the very means by which patience is attained. From this perspective, we see that those who would harm us are, in a sense, teachers of patience. Such people teach us what we could never learn merely from hearing someone speak, be they ever so wise or holy."


I can agree with the statement above but only with a caveat.

Nomadic people, some Native Americans being representative of that concept, patiently followed the seasons and the migration of buffalo and other game. Ultimately, they were bowled over by the impatient, industrial mindset of migrating Euros.

Farmers follow an agrarian cycle. It requires a certain degree of patience to be a farmer for a living, and some science, and some prayer. Banks lend expecting payment when the crop comes in. If the crop fails the bank gets the property. The small farmer here in the US has been and is being bowled over by the federal government, banking, and big-agra, industrial complexes. Can you say, "Monsanto"?

In the city, we abandoned the agri-pay cycle in favor of something more immediate. Produce now, get paid hourly, daily, weekly, every other week, monthly. If you are in sales, can get paid a stipend on a regular basis, then sometimes you don't collect a bonus until the end of the month, and with some Wall Street companies you don't get squat until yearly sales have been tallied.

My point is this: These industrial production/demand/pay cycles do not promote patience. Nevertheless, patience can be developed. I have done it and remained at the top of the monthly sales board where I worked. Difficulty arises when some industrial production manager observes your calmness then decides you can produce more, and more, and more... Or when an accounting type sees you are making what it considers too much money so your commissions get cut, your territory gets cut, or both.


Here I have rephrased the Dalai Lama's statement to bring it closer to my home:

To familiarize ourselves with the virtue of self-employment and self-sufficiency, it is very helpful to think of adversity not so much as a threat to our peace of mind but rather as the very means by which self-employment and self-sufficiency are attained. From this perspective, we see that those who would harm us are, in a sense, teachers of self-employment and self-sufficiency. Such people teach us what we could never learn merely from hearing a boss or manager speak, be they ever so wise or holy.

I would add that in our money driven society, having enough lucre/moolah/dough/cash/scratch/cheese/Benjamins/greenbacks/cabbage/lettuce/bucks to hold the wolves at bay fosters patience. Hubbard's policies and recommendations on that matter work well as long as I run them on my own life, determining the value of my own production and stats, as opposed to someone running the policies and stat determination on me.
 
We're number one! We're number one!

Aww we were always number one, now we lead the stats. We almost scraped their hull when we slipped past them. One of those woggyassed FCDC landlubbers might have slipped over the gun'ls with sabotage on his mind. I want everyone to immediately drop everything your doing and turn this thread upsidedown looking for infiltrators. lkwdblds! Post the conn on the bridge pick a deputy, secure The Commodore's quarters and direct everyone from there. Nevermind the engine room. I'll check that. Now let's get crackin'!
 

Ted

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Palsy Cline is the only karaoke I can do well. I have everything. It's amazing the difference a good studio and record producer Owen Bradley had in changing her from fantastic to Unbelievable. Those last two yrs of her recording career etched her name into history permanently. I grew up listening to her as a babe out in the Mojave desert where no one cares if you crank it up loud. Mom used to sing Poor Man's Roses and San Antonio Rose, You Belong to Me. Come to think about it, some of those LPs were an 8th in thick printed on one side." In the big rock candy mountain the houses are built of ....:D
Tex Ritter, Gogi Grant and the Wayward Wind. Patti Page and How Much is that Doggie in the Window. Oh what a savvy tot in the ways of love gone amiss I became. At 6 yrs I could wail with the best. Thank god, I grew out of it...


My dear, if you do Patsy Cline well, you must do very well on other stuff, too.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Absolutely Fascinating post!

Dalai Lama: "To familiarize ourselves with the virtue of patience, it is very helpful to think of adversity not so much as a threat to our peace of mind but rather as the very means by which patience is attained. From this perspective, we see that those who would harm us are, in a sense, teachers of patience. Such people teach us what we could never learn merely from hearing someone speak, be they ever so wise or holy."


I can agree with the statement above but only with a caveat.

Nomadic people, some Native Americans being representative of that concept, patiently followed the seasons and the migration of buffalo and other game. Ultimately, they were bowled over by the impatient, industrial mindset of migrating Euros.

Farmers follow an agrarian cycle. It requires a certain degree of patience to be a farmer for a living, and some science, and some prayer. Banks lend expecting payment when the crop comes in. If the crop fails the bank gets the property. The small farmer here in the US has been and is being bowled over by the federal government, banking, and big-agra, industrial complexes. Can you say, "Monsanto"?

In the city, we abandoned the agri-pay cycle in favor of something more immediate. Produce now, get paid hourly, daily, weekly, every other week, monthly. If you are in sales, can get paid a stipend on a regular basis, then sometimes you don't collect a bonus until the end of the month, and with some Wall Street companies you don't get squat until yearly sales have been tallied.

My point is this: These industrial production/demand/pay cycles do not promote patience. Nevertheless, patience can be developed. I have done it and remained at the top of the monthly sales board where I worked. Difficulty arises when some industrial production manager observes your calmness then decides you can produce more, and more, and more... Or when an accounting type sees you are making what it considers too much money so your commissions get cut, your territory gets cut, or both.


Here I have rephrased the Dalai Lama's statement to bring it closer to my home:

To familiarize ourselves with the virtue of self-employment and self-sufficiency, it is very helpful to think of adversity not so much as a threat to our peace of mind but rather as the very means by which self-employment and self-sufficiency are attained. From this perspective, we see that those who would harm us are, in a sense, teachers of self-employment and self-sufficiency. Such people teach us what we could never learn merely from hearing a boss or manager speak, be they ever so wise or holy.

I would add that in our money driven society, having enough lucre/moolah/dough/cash/scratch/cheese/Benjamins/greenbacks/cabbage/lettuce/bucks to hold the wolves at bay fosters patience. Hubbard's policies and recommendations on that matter work well as long as I run them on my own life, determining the value of my own production and stats, as opposed to someone running the policies and stat determination on me.

Hubbard pointed out that those migrating East from the Ural mountains towards the Orient developed patience and one type of wisdom, expressed to a large degree in the Vedic Religions. Those who went West into Europe went for the quick kill and developed competitiveness and fostered great engineering and technical implements to further their mastery of life.

Your examples give a new and needed viewpoint both contrasting the two different outlooks as well as seeing how the good parts of both can be combined into one system which would be superior in efficacy to either of the two systems it drew from if when they are used as stand alones.
Lakey
 
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lkwdblds

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Aye, Aye Commander!!

Aww we were always number one, now we lead the stats. We almost scraped their hull when we slipped past them. One of those woggyassed FCDC landlubbers might have slipped over the gun'ls with sabotage on his mind. I want everyone to immediately drop everything your doing and turn this thread upsidedown looking for infiltrators. lkwdblds! Post the conn on the bridge pick a deputy, secure The Commodore's quarters and direct everyone from there. Nevermind the engine room. I'll check that. Now let's get crackin'!

That's very cute Commander! Aye Aye Sir. I get so many pictures turning on from your words above. Those pirate movies from the old days. The Watch up in the crow's nest yelling out, Spanish Man O' War approaching off the port bow, 500 yards and closing!! The Commander ordering All Mates to man their battle stations. The World War II movies where the Japnese try and ambush a big U.S. Battle Ship and some alarm system goes off on the U.S. ship and all hell breaks loose. How about a Nazi type Naval movie battle, "Sink the Bismark" or submarine type of warfare as in "Run Silent Run Deep."

The Nazi ships make real interesting footage for battle scenes. The German seaman, I believe they are called Kriegsmariner wear such spiffy uniforms and they are so well regimented and organized much like a well functioning ant colony. The enemy appears and they have weird "whole track" sirens which go off, sounding like OOOOgahhh, OOOOgahhh. Rapid commands are issued in strong gutteral German and the fighting starts. If the German ship is hit, and the commander gives the order, a load speaker goes off saying, "Alle Man verlassen dein Schif!" over and over. All men, abondon (leave your) ship! The lines of neatly organized ants, break up and chaos ensues. Sea battles as portrayed in the movies, what a trip!

Lakey
 

Leon

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That's very cute Commander! Aye Aye Sir. I get so many pictures turning on from your words above. Those pirate movies from the old days. The Watch up in the crow's nest yelling out, Spanish Man O' War approaching off the port bow, 500 yards and closing!! The Commander ordering All Mates to man their battle stations. The World War II movies where the Japnese try and ambush a big U.S. Battle Ship and some alarm system goes off on the U.S. ship and all hell breaks loose. How about a Nazi type Naval movie battle, "Sink the Bismark" or submarine type of warfare as in "Run Silent Run Deep."

The Nazi ships make real interesting footage for battle scenes. The German seaman, I believe they are called Kriegsmariner wear such spiffy uniforms and they are so well regimented and organized much like a well functioning ant colony. The enemy appears and they have weird "whole track" sirens which go off, sounding like OOOOgahhh, OOOOgahhh. Rapid commands are issued in strong gutteral German and the fighting starts. If the German ship is hit, and the commander gives the order, a load speaker goes off saying, "Alle Man verlassen dein Schif!" over and over. All men, abondon (leave your) ship! The lines of neatly organized ants, break up and chaos ensues. Sea battles as portrayed in the movies, what a trip!

The myth of the Germans being a "well regimented ant colony" was a propaganda story put out by the allies and encouraged by them. In fact the German army of WW-2 was the finest army the world has ever seen. Only the Romans could hold a candle to them.

And it was all dased not on regimentised discipline as alleged, but on what they called 'auftragstaktik', a system which was subsequently adopted by virtually every army in the worls. Orders are given from above not on what needs to be done but on wghat needs to be achieved. How the person goes about achieving it is entirely up to him and his own judgement. This system devolved all the way down to NCO level and was the key factor in Germany's early victories in the war. The regimented marching columns in Germany were no different to those in most other countries, maybe excepting the French and Italians only.

What wrecked it all was Hitler himself, when he insisted on micro-managing the army. There was a lesson in this for Hubbard but he failed to learn it and do thiingd went awry. He trusted no one, just like Adolf, and he stuffed it up all on his lonesome. Germany could easily have won WW-2 if Hitler had just been willing to leave thikngs up to his Generals. And Scio could heve had wide public acceptance.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
A Classic Post, especially the last paragraph

The myth of the Germans being a "well regimented ant colony" was a propaganda story put out by the allies and encouraged by them. In fact the German army of WW-2 was the finest army the world has ever seen. Only the Romans could hold a candle to them.

And it was all dased not on regimentised discipline as alleged, but on what they called 'auftragstaktik', a system which was subsequently adopted by virtually every army in the worls. Orders are given from above not on what needs to be done but on wghat needs to be achieved. How the person goes about achieving it is entirely up to him and his own judgement. This system devolved all the way down to NCO level and was the key factor in Germany's early victories in the war. The regimented marching columns in Germany were no different to those in most other countries, maybe excepting the French and Italians only.

What wrecked it all was Hitler himself, when he insisted on micro-managing the army. There was a lesson in this for Hubbard but he failed to learn it and do thiingd went awry. He trusted no one, just like Adolf, and he stuffed it up all on his lonesome. Germany could easily have won WW-2 if Hitler had just been willing to leave thikngs up to his Generals. And Scio could heve had wide public acceptance.

Classic post, I really love the last paragraph the best. Hubbard had the experience of both Hitler's enormous success and reach and then his total collapse and defeat. Those things were recent history at the time he started his movement and he had the advantage of being able to study them and analyze where Hitler went astray and not make the same mistakes himself. Due mainly to his big ego and his lack of humility, he failed to fully sieze the opportunities which he had created for himself.

Just imagine if everyone on this thread and then everyone on ESMB was still a loyal and producing Scientologist who was allowed to give free reign to his or her talents and abilities and was working flat out for Scn, just imagine where C of S would be now compared to where they find themselves. It staggers the imagination!
Lakey
 

Zinjifar

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Even run sanely and individualistically (impossible in Scientology) Scientology would inevitably fail.

Because Scientology has no 'product'. The Planet will not be 'cleared' because there *is no Clear*.

If Scientology restrained itself to only advertising what it can actually *deliver*, few would buy it. The only people who actually *want* what Scientology *can* deliver are Scientologists who've been trained to want it.

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