The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[clamicide]

Hats - The get together is on for tomorrow night. It was never going to be on the weekend. I am glad you like the kryptonite analogy. I also used the analogy of a vampire being exposed to sunlight which I think is equally apropos.

I wish there was something simple to say to a registrar which would make them bolt and retreat from the room. Maybe one could say that they were a drug dealer and that all your money came from the sale of drugs. Do you think that would work? I doubt it, a Registrar going for money is like a bloodound following the scent of an escaped convict. Nothing short of killing the bloodhound will stop it from pursuing the scent it is tracking and the same is true for a registrar whose scent is the smell of money.
Lakey

Nah...we had a drug dealer onlines who actually paid for his Purif with drug money, and his wife's. It was well-known in the org, but everybody pretended not to know and would get a delusional look on their faces while sort of saying it came from somewhere else. This all while the guy would peel off the cash from his giant rolls to pay for services. And, he didn't have a job that anyone knew of.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Damn, I was going to close with a mushy Dean Martin song, but Carmelo beat me to it. Goodnite everbody

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crFQpOCDfEc

 

[Hatshepsut]

TIME WARP ALERT!!!
Oh my God, that "console" radio with its beautiful solid wood cabinet and all those tubes inside. The Shadow returns with man about town, Lamont Cranston, and his classy and smart girl friend Margo Lane. I bet L Ron Hubbard listened to The Shadow while he was courting his "non existant" 2nd wife Sarah Northrup back in 1947. This type of mind trick mystery program was right up his alley as far as interest goes.
Lakey

Good memory!!!!

 

[Ted]

The Dalai Lama Says...

Dalai Lama: "For the rest of your life to be as meaningful as possible, engage in spiritual practice if you can. It is nothing more than acting out of concern for others. If you practice sincerely and with persistence, little by little, step by step you will gradually reorder your habits and attitudes so as to think less about your own narrow concerns and more about others' – and thereby find peace and happiness yourself."


You can begin with just one person: spouse or significant other. That in of itself could go on for a long, long time. With the addition of children, people will tell you that you have an extraordinary family. I know as I have done it.

 

[gfyork]

Thanks.

Nice going Gary, your skill and tact in opposing MAB is very chivalrous. You duplicate his point of view, select out in color print the two areas where you are in disagreement and then politely make your case. To me, this is material for people's debating hats. "How to debate a well informed and worthy opponent with respect" by Gary York. This info needs to be absorbed on most of the other threads going on ESMB. So many of them degenerate into name calling and four letter words bashing the opponent's character.

Nice going Gary!
From the other Gary

Thanks!

And -- nicely done yourself. You managed a nice ack without choosin' up sides or in any way encouraging further political debate -- which probably should not really happen here.

And I see I'm seven pages behind PT this morning so I best start running to catch up.

Best,

G.

 

[lkwdblds]

Margo Lane and Lois Lane related?

Good memory!!!!

Here's a thought, Margo Lane from "The Shadow" and Lois Lane from "Superman" were probably sisters. Both characters rose to fame in the 1940's, both women were beautiful and intelligent. They were intuitive as well and had a nose which usually led them into trouble, only to be rescued by their boyfriend's with Super Powers. Superman had the full range of OT like Powers and then some. Lamont Cranston, had only one superpower, to quote the show's byline, "Cranston learned a technique in the Orient by which he had the power to cloud men's minds so that they could not see him." Having only this one OT ability was sufficient for him to defeat all the many crooks which he encountered.

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows! heh, heh, heh! Meanwhile the Lakester remembers the byline and jingle of every old radio and TV show he ever watched or heard. This includes the Dick Tracy Radio show of 1945, sponsored by Karl's Shoes, The Tom Mix radio show of 1945; Tom's sidekick was called Wabash and was similar to Jack Benny's "Rochester" and Tom's theme song was "When its Round Up Time in Texas". I used to know their sponsor too, I know it was a hot breakfast cereal and was probably Quaker Oats. Cream of Wheat was already the sponsor of "Let's Pretend", a major national show broadcast every Sunday morning from the East Coast which featured a dramatization of a famous fairy tale such as "The Pied Piper of Hamlin". "Puss'n Boots", and "Rumple Stiltskin" all of which were put on by "Let's Pretend"

Here's a pretty savy guy, Gene Autry (with his sidekick Pat Butram) singing "When its Round Up Time in Texas"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3THIiqAxB0

Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

This is a great find Carmelo!

what's funny is I was talking about how the Scientology culture was when I got in (in 1969) on the "Cindy Feshbach moved to Austin Texas"

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?p=477299#post477299 thread

and now, we've just broken a barrier or two.

Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUfzrpwLXo

Great find Carmelo! I did not know anything such as this existed! Also, I did not know that the program originated in Cincinnati, Ohio. My Mom was from Dayton, only 50 miles away. When I started following baseball in 1950 I adopted the Cincinnati Reds as my team because L.A. did not have a major league team at that time.
Lakey

 

[Ted]

The Dead Just Keep On Voting

www.redstate.com

Posted by Thomas R. Spencer (Profile)
Tuesday, September 28th at 10:17AM EDT
10 Comments


Isn’t modern medicine wonderful? A hundred years ago, the average life expectancy in the United States was 47 years. In 2009, the federal government recently announced that it is 78 years. And, now, in an age when NASA has machines roving Mars, many states are extending the voting life of citizens for years after they are medically pronounced dead.

There are 116,000 dead eligible voters in Massachusetts. And in Florida, one major newspaper recently investigated and reported that almost 15,000 dead Floridians are still hanging around on the election rolls – just six weeks before one of the most vicious and important election cycles in our history. Can it be the sun? Most States have similar statistics. Every two years, states must report to the federal Election Assistance Commission (EAC) information about the integrity and accuracy of their voter rolls. The latest report is not good news for our democracy – or our international reputation. South Dakota, Texas, Kentucky, Mississippi and Indiana report in excess of a dozen counties with more registered voters than breathing human beings old enough to vote. West Virginia, Maryland, Iowa and North Carolina also reported having eligible deceased voters on their rolls. The list goes on and on. And so does the real risk that these voters will have illegal votes registered in their names. Close races, like the Franken/Coleman race in Minnesota can be decided on just a handful of votes. We may have to go to purple thumbprints at this rate. Hugo Chavez must be howling at this American disgrace.

Democrats seem to be suspiciously inept at cleaning out the rolls. The Ohio Secretary of State is not at all anxious about the fact that nearly 5,800 departed Ohioans are still registered to vote. A partisan Democrat, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner is more concerned about the living – Spanish speaking only voters. She has cooperated with the Department of Justice to force Cuyahoga County to spend $500,000 on bilingual ballots to accommodate about 6,000 non-English speakers.

In November, 2009 political appointee Julie Fernandes reportedly told the entire assembled Department of Justice Voting Section that the Obama Administration would not enforce the list maintenance legal requirements of Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act. Fernandes reportedly said, “we do not have any interest in enforcing that part of the law.” Given the example of Obama vs. Arizona, one might assume that supervisors of elections are thinking hard about actually enforcing federal law over the objection of, dare I say it … federal officials of the voting section of the Department of Justice.

Indeed, if you happen to be in a Democrat-led state, with major cities and states with a record of vote-fraud – like Missouri, the Obama DOJ will happily dismiss lawsuits where there are actual admitted violations of the law, like the New Black Panther case. Last year, it accommodated Missouri for failing to purge its voter rolls even though a third of its counties had more registered voters than voting-age residents.

This scandalous outrage must be cleaned up immediately. Otherwise, we run the real risk that Secretary of State Clinton will report us to the United Nations. Like the poor folks in Arizona, local citizens and groups around the country who may have to organize, sue and act aggressively to put the dead to rest, politically speaking. The Motor Voter Act provides that ordinary citizens can sue to force a clean-up of the voter rolls. We could call it a Motor Voter Militia. Of course, you have to be living to sue. Given the abundance of legal talent now tapping their fingers in unemployed America, this might be a new growth area for our red-meat Barristers. There are even some 1-800 numbers still available.

Tom R. Spencer is a Republican lawyer from Florida.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Great find Carmelo! I did not know anything such as this existed! Also, I did not know that the program originated in Cincinnati, Ohio. My Mom was from Dayton, only 50 miles away. When I started following baseball in 1950 I adopted the Cincinnati Reds as my team because L.A. did not have a major league team at that time.
Lakey

On youtube vids there is a place for a description. This description said that it was a recreation for an old time radio fan club in Cincinnati in the year 1996. It was the real the real Fred Foy, etc. I haven't googled this, but as I recall, The Lone Ranger originated in Chicago.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

message from Ant Phillips

Dear reader of this,

I take it you have some knowledge of Scientology, including the axioms and the Factors as well as other Scientology works about the time track. Perhaps you, like me have wondered about details of the history after "1. Before the beginning was a cause......" including perhaps the history of the many oddities you see about you in the present physical universe (like how come some winged animals were designed with four wings and could hover, while the majority of flying animals have only two wings, or how the atomic (period) table came about).

I have had such curiosities since fairly early on in my Scientology career. I got a big chunk of "answers" when I first read the Pilot's (Ken Ogger's) Cosmic History. A number of things fell in place. I had started the Internet list SuperScio (about the Pilot's book in which his Cosmic History was a part). In the years since I have resent it in to the Internet. Last time started in July 2008. Since that time things have happened in my universe, and with regard to Cosmic History notably:
a) I have become critical (or unbelieving) on some details of Ken's theory.
b) I have had a sort of "revelation" (or access to the Akashic Record) with regard to the time just previous to this present universe.

I think Cosmic History answers in part the questions in the nature of "if I came from 'static' why have I headache and an intolerable husband and can't remember my life three lives ago?" (Maybe you know the theoretical answer, but Cosmic History may put a bit more certainty, or understanding, to the matter.)

I am repeating Cosmic History again, on the list CosmicHistory which you can join by going to:
http://lists.worldtrans.org/mailman/listinfo/cosmichistory
I will start at the beginning of October.

You are invited. Just go to the above list, and join. If you find it not to your taste you can unsubscribe, rather easily. And I as list admin, will try and help if you have problems or questions - but the new list server we have moved the list to is fairly good at "self Service" (do it yourself).

So if you reality and curiosity lies in that direction, have a go.

All best wishes,

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[CarmeloOrchards]

I have over a dozen hours of mp4s and mp3s of John McMaster, Jack Horner, and Charley Broaded. Most are in blocks of about an hour or so apiece.

I'm assuming I can upload these for anyone to a big file sharing cloud.

The plan that I am working on is to put everything into YouTube size segments, excise out the dull and boring, and have it in a cloud for posterity.

Would anyone like to give me any advice(s)? I'm going to use iMovie on my Mac.

I would be happy to have even kindergarten level advice. I am a complete neophyte.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

TIME WARP ALERT!!!
Oh my God, that "console" radio with its beautiful solid wood cabinet and all those tubes inside. The Shadow returns with man about town, Lamont Cranston, and his classy and smart girl friend Margo Lane. I bet L Ron Hubbard listened to The Shadow while he was courting his "non existant" 2nd wife Sarah Northrup back in 1947. This type of mind trick mystery program was right up his alley as far as interest goes.
Lakey

As a boy, I used to fix the TV, by replacing the bad tubes. We bought them at Thrifty Cut Rate Drug Stores. They had a display box with the most common tubes. Now, all that is left of Thrifty is their ice cream, which is sold at Rite Aid (which purchased Thrifty). The ice cream counter is still in some Rite Aids.

 

[Enthetan]

No, I didn't assume they went to business schools. I knew that most of them didn't. I pointed out that someone like Lee Iacoca did go to college but that is not where he learned how to run a successful car company.

Maybe the sentence structure I used flowed together in such a way as to lead you to believe that I had made that assumption, I can see how you arrived at that conclusion by rereading my text, but in actual fact I never made such an assumption. In any case, thanks for pointing out what you did.
Lakey

The sentence "It would be interesting to do a study of how America's enormous productive capacity was gained, even in spite of the poor teachings available in Business schools" was what prompted my reply, that poor teaching in business school was irrelevant to the success of pre-WW2 business startups, since the founders generally were not B-school grads.

Even today, founders of successful startups are generally not B-school grads (Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, etc), but are instead people who have deep understanding of a product that's needed and wanted. It's only after the company has reached "maturity" that B-school people are brought in.

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Lookin' good, Q-man, lookin' good!!

 

[gfyork]

Blast from the past!

As a boy, I used to fix the TV, by replacing the bad tubes. We bought them at Thrifty Cut Rate Drug Stores. They had a display box with the most common tubes. Now, all that is left of Thrifty is their ice cream, which is sold at Rite Aid (which purchased Thrifty). The ice cream counter is still in some Rite Aids.

Me too; me too!

Our drugstore, who's name I forget, also had a tube tester which made the business quite handy. (I do recall I loved their Cherry Phosphates.)

And I recall secretly attaching headphones to the back of our TV (along with a switch to disable the speakers) to enable surreptitious post-bedtime watching.

Actually, I don't really recall much late TV watching, I was more of a book reader and relied on the light from the street-lamp outside my bedroom window. ("Stranger in a Strange Land" occasioned my first all-nighter.) I think I simply was delighted to ensure that I could watch if ever I wanted to.

G.

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Me too; me too!

Our drugstore, who's name I forget, also had a tube tester which made the business quite handy. (I do recall I loved their Cherry Phosphates.)

And I recall secretly attaching headphones to the back of our TV (along with a switch to disable the speakers) to enable surreptitious post-bedtime watching.

Actually, I don't really recall much late TV watching, I was more of a book reader and relied on the light from the street-lamp outside my bedroom window. ("Stranger in a Strange Land" occasioned my first all-nighter.) I think I simply was delighted to ensure that I could watch if ever I wanted to.

G.

Great stuff Carmelo & Gary!

We got our first TV when I was 7 years old. On Saturdays I'd get up early in the morning and watch the test pattern...the circular one with the Indian in a War Bonnet...until the first duster came on—Roy Rogers. He was followed by Sky King, a couple of old one reelers with the Duke, Gene Autry and Hopalong Cassidy. Had my "Fanner Fifty" cap gun leathered and sometimes drawn in case any of the fella's needed another hand.

Face

 

[lkwdblds]

I remember the test pattern you described.

Great stuff guys!

We got our first TV when I was 7 years old. On Saturdays I'd get up early in the morning and watch the test pattern...the circular one with the Indian in a War Bonnet...until the first duster came on—Roy Rogers. He was followed by Sky King, a couple of old one reelers with the Duke, Gene Autry and Hopalong Cassidy. Had my "Fanner Fifty" cap gun leathered and sometimes drawn in case any of the fella's needed another hand.

Face

What city were you in. In L.A., Channel 5 had the market to itself for a year or two. I was called KTLA, a name which it still retains. The first network station to arrive was Channel 2, the CBS affiliate, then called KTSL but quickly changed to KCBS.

Back when KTLA was the only station in 1948 and 1949, almost all the programming was either old cowboy movies or professional wrestling. About half the cowboy movies featured William Boyd as Hopalong Cassidy. "Hoppy" became so popular that an amusement park called "Hoppy Land" was built out in the valley. It had stores selling cowboy clothes and paraphernalia as well as rides for the kids. Its heydey was around 1951 when I was 11. I was a little too old for it, the neigbor's kid, Michael, 7 years old, practically lived there and all the decorations in his room were from Hoppy Land.

The wrestling was featured at three locations which were The Ocean Park arena in Santa Monica near Venice Beach, The Hollywood Legion Stadium and the famous Olympic Auditorium. The wrestlers of the day were just as good as what they have now on WWE except they did not use steroids in those days. Our most famous wrestlers were Gorgeous George (Shirley Temples brother), Baron Michele Leone, Argentina Rocca, Naturboy Buddy Rogers, Lou Thesz, Count Billy Varga, Mr Moto of Japan, Lord Janes Blears from England (with his valet, Captain Leslie Holmes), the Torres brothers from Mexico, led by Enrique and a few years later Freddy Blassie arrived. They also had midgets who wrestled, usually in tag teams.

The announcer, Dick Lane, became quite famous and the Ring Announcer was the immortal Jimmy Lennon, the uncle of the singing Lenon Sisters from the Lawrence Welk show. Jimmy's son, Jimmy Jr. is still announcing. Jimmy Jr. is as close to a clone to his father as I have ever seen. The appearance and the voice or those of identical twins.

Roller Derby, also announced by Dick Lane came on TV quite early in the 50's, I believe. Both wrestling and roller derby were "fake" sports whose outcomes were scripted and planned in advance. Most people knew that but perhaps 1/3 believed those fake sports were real. The L.A. Team was called the L.A. Thunderbirds. It was a coed sport, first the mens team would compete with the competing men's team and then there would be a changeover and the women's teams would compete. The men's team was led by Spec Saunders and the woman's team was lead by "Toughie" Brassaud.

The first big local kids show, Time for Beanie came on KTLA in the very late 1940's I believe and it was so popular that it became syndicated nation wide. There were already three major kids TV shows eminating from the East Coast and they were "Howdie Doodie" hosted by Buffalo Bob Smith, Kukla, Fran and Ollie, a puppet show, and Captain Video a sci-fi thriller done as a continuous serial, each days story being a continuation of the prior days.

The technology to record these shows and get them to the West Coast was primitive the first couple of years. I think they had to make a film of the TV show on reel to reel and then actually fly it to L.A.. Whatever the details were, it was called a kinescope recording. In the west, we always got the shows several hours after they were originated on the East Coast. By 1952 or 1953 all this technical inconvenience was handled and the shows were able to be instantly transmitted coast to coast.

Meanwhile as this was going on, radio seemed to be dying out, just becomming mainly disc jockeys playing records. Never fear, radio had legs and could do some things as good or better than television. Radio never did die out and is still going fairly strong. Those were the days! It was so much fun being a kid in that era when all these changes were going on.
Lakey

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

I have over a dozen hours of mp4s and mp3s of John McMaster, Jack Horner, and Charley Broaded. Most are in blocks of about an hour or so apiece.

I'm assuming I can upload these for anyone to a big file sharing cloud.

The plan that I am working on is to put everything into YouTube size segments, excise out the dull and boring, and have it in a cloud for posterity.

Would anyone like to give me any advice(s)? I'm going to use iMovie on my Mac.

I would be happy to have even kindergarten level advice. I am a complete neophyte.

I'm not worth a pair of used shorts when it comes to technical stuff but you sure enough have my “theta vibes" when it comes to gettin' this done. This is stuff that's well worth preserving.

Face

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

What city were you in. In L.A., Channel 5 had the market to itself for a year or two. I was called KTLA, a name which it still retains. The first network station to arrive was Channel 2, the CBS affiliate, then called KTSL but quickly changed to KCBS.

Back when KTLA was the only station in 1948 and 1949, almost all the programming was either old cowboy movies or professional wrestling. About half the cowboy movies featured William Boyd as Hopalong Cassidy. "Hoppy" became so popular that an amusement park called "Hoppy Land" was built out in the valley. It had stores selling cowboy clothes and paraphernalia as well as rides for the kids. Its heydey was around 1951 when I was 11. I was a little too old for it, the neigbor's kid, Michael, 7 years old, practically lived there and all the decorations in his room were from Hoppy Land.

The wrestling was featured at three locations which were The Ocean Park arena in Santa Monica near Venice Beach, The Hollywood Legion Stadium and the famous Olympic Auditorium. The wrestlers of the day were just as good as what they have now on WWE except they did not use steroids in those days. Our most famous wrestlers were Gorgeous George (Shirley Temples brother), Baron Michele Leone, Argentina Rocca, Naturboy Buddy Rogers, Lou Thesz, Count Billy Varga, Mr Moto of Japan, Lord Janes Blears from England (with his valet, Captain Leslie Holmes), the Torres brothers from Mexico, led by Enrique and a few years later Freddy Blassie arrived. They also had midgets who wrestled, usually in tag teams.

The announcer, Dick Lane, became quite famous and the Ring Announcer was the immortal Jimmy Lennon, the uncle of the singing Lenon Sisters from the Lawrence Welk show. Jimmy's son, Jimmy Jr. is still announcing. Jimmy Jr. is as close to a clone to his father as I have ever seen. The appearance and the voice or those of identical twins.

Roller Derby, also announced by Dick Lane came on TV quite early in the 50's, I believe. Both wrestling and roller derby were "fake" sports whose outcomes were scripted and planned in advance. Most people knew that but perhaps 1/3 believed those fake sports were real. The L.A. Team was called the L.A. Thunderbirds. It was a coed sport, first the mens team would compete with the competing men's team and then there would be a changeover and the women's teams would compete. The men's team was led by Spec Saunders and the woman's team was lead by "Toughie" Brassaud.

The first big local kids show, Time for Beanie came on KTLA in the very late 1940's I believe and it was so popular that it became syndicated nation wide. There were already three major kids TV shows eminating from the East Coast and they were "Howdie Doodie" hosted by Buffalo Bob Smith, Kukla, Fran and Ollie, a puppet show, and Captain Video a sci-fi thriller done as a continuous serial, each days story being a continuation of the prior days.

The technology to record these shows and get them to the West Coast was primitive the first couple of years. I think they had to make a film of the TV show on reel to reel and then actually fly it to L.A.. Whatever the details were, it was called a kinescope recording. In the west, we always got the shows several hours after they were originated on the East Coast. By 1952 or 1953 all this technical inconvenience was handled and the shows were able to be instantly transmitted coast to coast.

Meanwhile as this was going on, radio seemed to be dying out, just becomming mainly disc jockeys playing records. Never fear, radio had legs and could do some things as good or better than television. Radio never did die out and is still going fairly strong. Those were the days! It was so much fun being a kid in that era when all these changes were going on.
Lakey

No, it wasn't in LA. Out in the boonies we only got one channel when we got the TV. It was nearly 2 years before we got all 3 network affiliate channels.

Face

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Great stuff Carmelo & Gary!

We got our first TV when I was 7 years old. On Saturdays I'd get up early in the morning and watch the test pattern...the circular one with the Indian in a War Bonnet...until the first duster came on—Roy Rogers. He was followed by Sky King, a couple of old one reelers with the Duke, Gene Autry and Hopalong Cassidy. Had my "Fanner Fifty" cap gun leathered and sometimes drawn in case any of the fella's needed another hand.

Face

On Saturday mornings let's not forget Fury (with Peter Graves, James Arness' brother), Andy DeVine as Jingles, and Buffalo Bob Smith and Howdy Doodie

other oaters were Steve Garrett, Western Ranger and Tales of the Texas Rangers.

I had (and still have in a position of prominence in our bedroom) a Hopalong Cassidy jack knife, which I used constantly for at least twenty years. It was made of blue steel, hardened not soft stainless. It is and was a good knife. I've stripped many a wire with it, used the screw driver on many a screw, and opened many Treesweet Grapefruit juice cans with the opener.

When Hoppy came to San Jose Civic Auditorium, I shook his hand. I have not ever forgotten that event.