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lkwdblds

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This is some of the nuttiest garbage I have ever read

Ron's Orgs is a cult, and videos of John McMaster will be used to lend credibility to that cult. Unfortunately, there's not much one can do about cults exploiting good info - after all, that's one of the things cults do - so might as well put the info out there.

Message from Ron, from 11 May 1986 - 'Plans for Teegeeack': http://www.freezone.org/cbr/sector9/e_sob22.htm

Xenu's SP Declare: http://www.freezone.org/cbr/sector9/e_sob20.htm

Markab, the Final Handling: http://www.freezone.org/cbr/sector9/e_sob19.htm

The FZ Decree of 10 November 1982: http://galac-patra.narod.ru/index.html


I believe these referenced writings are total garbage as pronounced with a French accent, i.e. Gar' baj! I don't know too much about Captain Bill, but if he penned these Looney Tunes by claiming to be in touch with Elron Elray by telepathy, that is wilder than anything which LRH ever came up with on his own!
Lakey
 

Ted

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On Balance

On another thread someone mentioned a PRD student who, after her studies, couldn't even pass a street billboard without looking up a word she did not understand. This morning my mind wandered to a time many years ago when my wife, my best friend, and I were on the PRD. That's Primary Rundown, the study process that makes the student Superliterate! (Did I spell that right? Who cares?)

The three of us churned away to the bitter end. I "EP'd" about halfway through. The second half of the course was drudgery. Yet, I have no complaints. I was young and resilient. Besides, would there be much of a win at anything if the attainment were easy?

This morning my thought was about reversing the flow on superliteracy. How would it be if I, or you, required that all the readers of our posts, missives, letters and such look up and fully define to conceptual understanding each of the words we used before being allowed to read the materials? I can't imagine me doing that to anyone, not even one of my students if I were a professor or teacher. I can't imagine a student buying into it, either.

Then it struck me: This Superliterate thing is born of narcissism! I would get to declare students SUPERLITERATE, give them a certificate with my name on it, and allow them study privileges over the common student! Aren't I great! I know many words. I know about art, and photography, and cars, ... I can wax philosophically about the objective universe and the subjective universes of others. I am so smart! My greatness is unsurpassed. I will extend a helping hand to the lesser folk! :coolwink:

I can appreciate hubbard for what he did that was helpful. But, I feel at times he's like the guy who helped fix a flat on the highway who thereafter badgered me about what a great person he is and what a great deed he performed. The humanitarian helps then moves on. It's the normal thing to do. Hubbard didn't move on. He stalked looking for or creating another flat-tire opportunity.

The above is my opinion, of course. Anyone is welcomed to disagree. I just feel that I need to balance some flows. That is, balance for me. I spent so many years telling the world what a great, brilliant guy hubbard was that it feels good to take him down a notch or two or three or more. Like all processes, this one will come to an end. But every time I think I am getting near that end something new pops into view.
 

Ted

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On Balance

The Zen Master warns: "If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him!" This admonition points up that no meaning that comes from outside ourselves is real. The Buddhahood of each of us has already been obtained. We need only recognize it. Killing the Buddha on the road means destroying the hope that anything outside of ourselves can be our master. We must each give up the master without giving up the search. The importance of things lies in the way we have learned to think about them. How often we make circumstances our prison and other people our jailers! At our best we take full responsibility for what we do and what we choose not to do. The most important struggles take place within the self.

Some of the 927 Eternal Truths:

1. This is it!

10. The world is not necessarily just. Being good often does not pay off and there is no compensation for misfortune.

11. You have a responsibility to do your best none-the-less.

18. If you have a hero, look again: you have diminished yourself in some way.

28. The most important things each man must do for himself.

29. Love is not enough, but it sure helps.

31. How strange, that so often, it all seems worth it.


-- By Richard Layton
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
FoTi - Do you really mean TV series in the 40's? Don't you mean the 50's. 1940's TV was pretty basic, mainly reruns of old cowboy movies and a few old Laurel and Hardy movies and lots of wrestling and roller derby matches. Real sports occasionally appeared on TV in the 40's as well such as boxing matches sponsored by Gillette of "Look sharp, feel sharp and be sharp" fame, tennis matches, and an occasional baseball game.

I am not aware of any series which ran on TV in the 1940's. By around 1952 tons of TV series were running but the ramp up year was proabably 1952 itself. !950 and 1951 were more akin to the 40's as to TV programming with the two exceptions being lots of kids shows and news coverage coming onto TV in 1950 and 1951. I just know this from my own experiences having lived it in Los Angeles and turning 10 years old in December of 1949. I think the East Coast was ahead of us out in L.A.. Maybe there were some series on the East Coast but out on the West Coast, I do not recall any series on TV until 1952 when a whole bunch of them came on line, so to speak.


1948-49? Gillete razor Music Jingle, "How are you fixed for blades, Mister?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9KVfn2-EEU

1950 Gillete razor commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gmoyG2PT8

Lakey


Say, was that Mel Allen!? Gillette used to be a big advertiser at the ballgames.

Given the escalating price of razor blades these days, I would go back to Gillette Blue Blades at $1.29. :wink2:
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
The true story of Susan Todhunter's death

The deceased's Brother-in-Law, George, married to Susan's youngest sister Laura told me the true story of how the beautiful and talented Sue died back in 1992. I got my old informatioin from "Why are they Dead" and other internet sources. George was actually there with Sue all the way from her diagnosis of having breast cancer to her last moment on Earth.

I RETRACT MY OLDER STORY POSTED ON THIS THREAD AND OFFER THIS STORY AS THE CORRECT STORY - NOT FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE INTERNET.

There is no question that Susan Todhunter was an extremely beautiful and talented woman and a good and kind hearted soul as are all the fine Todhunter sisters and brother. What Sue seemed to lack was a firm purpose and direction in life. She was sort of drifting through life, actually going out exchange with her parents. She graduated University with a degree in music and became a fine operatic type singer, nearly fluent in Italian and German.

She never really worked a day in her life and was living the life of a jet setter, traveling all around the world, living a life of luxury. Her family was paying for her Air Fare, her hotels, her Scientology services, the finest voice teachers and coaches and so forth. The exchange was supposed to be that Susan would find employment as a diva in some opera company and become gainly employed in a steady and high paying job. Sue, did not have a program or targets to achieve her end goal and never took any tangible steps to gain employment as a diva. George described her as a Scientology celebrity who sang at Scientology based events but who was totally unknown as a singer outside the sphere of Scientology.

George stated that her Father had set up a $10,000 ($40,000 in todays money) bank account for her hotels and living expenses. Flag, as they are wont to do, regged Susan for a package and Susan fave them this money without consulting her Dad and then asked him to replenish her account. George told Sue that she was Out Ethics and he wrote up Knowledge Reports to Flag and wanted Sue's auditing stopped untile her Ethics were put in. Flag refused to repond in any way as they are prone to do - basically, if money is offered to them, they take it whether the money is obtained ethically or not. George complained bitterly to Flag that they needed to handle her Ethics and make her give back the money which she in essence stole from her own Father. Flag was not budging on this at all and so George resigned from the church.

SUE'S ILLNESS - Sue felt a lump on her breast and for a full year she did not see a doctor. She would tell no one about the lump and just intended that it would not be cancerous and went about her business. After one year, the cancer in her body began to manifest itself and could no longer be ignored. Joan went to a Doctor and found out that the cancer had spread to her lymph glands and then had metastisized to many of her vital organs. The Doctor told her that she was terminally ill and nothing could be done for her. She had waited too long to come in and could not be saved.

Sue's response was to tell no one, family nor friends about this, but to head to Flag to see if they could handle her. When she was at Flag, they refused to handle her because she was terminally ill and was considered an illegal PC. She continued living there and after a while, the C/S allowed her to get regular touch assists. When I saw her there in 1992, she already knew she was terminally ill but she completely concealed it. She looked fantastic and seemed very confident and sure of herself. I am fairly perceptic and yet had no idea that she had any illness.

As the illness progressed to the stage where she could no longer function normally and began to be in pain, she let her family know. She had them around her in the final stage of her illness. George said that when she started to suffer, she seemed to make a decision to leave her body quickly. George related the final moments when she wanted her brother Ralph to come to her. He came and she and Ralph along with George and other family members were driving in a car and going to a hotel or something like that and when Sue stepped out of the car, she just collapsed. Ralph caught her and held her head in his hands and while he was holding her head, she took her last breath and took leave of her body.

ERRORS AND OMMISIONS IN OTHER INTERNET STORIES.
1. No story mentions that she was out exchange with her family.
2. No story mentions that she literally stole $10,000 from her living expense account provided by her Dad and bought auditing with it.
3. No story mentions that Flag would not give her an Ethics handling for this.
4. No story mentions that she had a lump on her breast for one year and did not go in for a check up.
5. Several stories tell that she had received End of Life auditing at Flag and this is not true.
6. No story mentions that Flag would not take her because she arrived there terminally ill and was an illegal PC.

So there it is, the true Sue Todhunter story told now for the first time anywhere. Another big Lakey scoop!

In memorium, Sue was a beautiful person. I was lucky to have her as a friend for about 10 years, then I lost touch but was fortunate to bump into her in her last year, 1992. She was a truly beautiful woman and a fine singer. Her undoing seemed to be a lack of purpose and a willingness to take from her parents, feeling no compuction towards getting a job and contributing to her own life or keeping in her exchange with them. In the end, she died with dignity surrounded by her closest loved ones.

GIVE C OF S A PASS ON THIS ONE, THEY WERE NOT COMPLICIT IN HER DEATH
Flag services did not lead in any way to her cancer and Flag did not give her end of life auditing. Flag is exonerated from having any hand in her demise. When they are wrong I say so, but in Susan's case, they are taking some heat on the internet for something which they were not involved with.
Lakey
 
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Enthetan

Master of Disaster
GIVE C OF S A PASS ON THIS ONE, THEY WERE NOT COMPLICIT IN HER DEATH
Flag services did not lead in any way to her cancer and Flag did not give her end of life auditing. Flag is exonerated from having any hand in her demise. When they are wrong I say so, but in Susan's case, they are taking some heat on the internet for something which they were not involved with.
Lakey

From another way of looking at it, WHY did Sue ignore the lump, if not because of her realization that cancer would make her an illegal PC?
 

afaceinthecrowd

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On another thread someone mentioned a PRD student who, after her studies, couldn't even pass a street billboard without looking up a word she did not understand. This morning my mind wandered to a time many years ago when my wife, my best friend, and I were on the PRD. That's Primary Rundown, the study process that makes the student Superliterate! (Did I spell that right? Who cares?)

The three of us churned away to the bitter end. I "EP'd" about halfway through. The second half of the course was drudgery. Yet, I have no complaints. I was young and resilient. Besides, would there be much of a win at anything if the attainment were easy?

This morning my thought was about reversing the flow on superliteracy. How would it be if I, or you, required that all the readers of our posts, missives, letters and such look up and fully define to conceptual understanding each of the words we used before being allowed to read the materials? I can't imagine me doing that to anyone, not even one of my students if I were a professor or teacher. I can't imagine a student buying into it, either.

Then it struck me: This Superliterate thing is born of narcissism! I would get to declare students SUPERLITERATE, give them a certificate with my name on it, and allow them study privileges over the common student! Aren't I great! I know many words. I know about art, and photography, and cars, ... I can wax philosophically about the objective universe and the subjective universes of others. I am so smart! My greatness is unsurpassed. I will extend a helping hand to the lesser folk! :coolwink:

I can appreciate hubbard for what he did that was helpful. But, I feel at times he's like the guy who helped fix a flat on the highway who thereafter badgered me about what a great person he is and what a great deed he performed. The humanitarian helps then moves on. It's the normal thing to do. Hubbard didn't move on. He stalked looking for or creating another flat-tire opportunity.

The above is my opinion, of course. Anyone is welcomed to disagree. I just feel that I need to balance some flows. That is, balance for me. I spent so many years telling the world what a great, brilliant guy hubbard was that it feels good to take him down a notch or two or three or more. Like all processes, this one will come to an end. But every time I think I am getting near that end something new pops into view.[/QUOTE]

Man, like I hear ya man, like I realy dig man!:coolwink:

Great stuff, Ted, g-r-e-a-t stuff. I agree with every word in this post.:yes:

Face:)
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
The Zen Master warns: "If you meet Buddha on the road, kill him!" This admonition points up that no meaning that comes from outside ourselves is real. The Buddhahood of each of us has already been obtained. We need only recognize it. Killing the Buddha on the road means destroying the hope that anything outside of ourselves can be our master. We must each give up the master without giving up the search. The importance of things lies in the way we have learned to think about them. How often we make circumstances our prison and other people our jailers! At our best we take full responsibility for what we do and what we choose not to do. The most important struggles take place within the self.

Some of the 927 Eternal Truths:

1. This is it!

10. The world is not necessarily just. Being good often does not pay off and there is no compensation for misfortune.

11. You have a responsibility to do your best none-the-less.

18. If you have a hero, look again: you have diminished yourself in some way.

28. The most important things each man must do for himself.

29. Love is not enough, but it sure helps.

31. How strange, that so often, it all seems worth it.


-- By Richard Layton

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Ron's Orgs is a cult, and videos of John McMaster will be used to lend credibility to that cult. Unfortunately, there's not much one can do about cults exploiting good info - after all, that's one of the things cults do - so might as well put the info out there.

Message from Ron, from 11 May 1986 - 'Plans for Teegeeack': http://www.freezone.org/cbr/sector9/e_sob22.htm

Xenu's SP Declare: http://www.freezone.org/cbr/sector9/e_sob20.htm

Markab, the Final Handling: http://www.freezone.org/cbr/sector9/e_sob19.htm

The FZ Decree of 10 November 1982: http://galac-patra.narod.ru/index.html

I have tested uploading the videos to YouTube. I have to say that I was stumped where hey ask for "Tags" I know what tags mean. I just don't know what tags are appropriate and which will get the most viewers. Does anyone want to offer suggestions of "this tag," but "not this tag" and "why"?
 
On another thread someone mentioned a PRD student who, after her studies, couldn't even pass a street billboard without looking up a word she did not understand. This morning my mind wandered to a time many years ago when my wife, my best friend, and I were on the PRD. That's Primary Rundown, the study process that makes the student Superliterate! (Did I spell that right? Who cares?)

The three of us churned away to the bitter end. I "EP'd" about halfway through. The second half of the course was drudgery. Yet, I have no complaints. I was young and resilient. Besides, would there be much of a win at anything if the attainment were easy?

This morning my thought was about reversing the flow on superliteracy. How would it be if I, or you, required that all the readers of our posts, missives, letters and such look up and fully define to conceptual understanding each of the words we used before being allowed to read the materials? I can't imagine me doing that to anyone, not even one of my students if I were a professor or teacher. I can't imagine a student buying into it, either.

Then it struck me: This Superliterate thing is born of narcissism! I would get to declare students SUPERLITERATE, give them a certificate with my name on it, and allow them study privileges over the common student! Aren't I great! I know many words. I know about art, and photography, and cars, ... I can wax philosophically about the objective universe and the subjective universes of others. I am so smart! My greatness is unsurpassed. I will extend a helping hand to the lesser folk! :coolwink:

I can appreciate hubbard for what he did that was helpful. But, I feel at times he's like the guy who helped fix a flat on the highway who thereafter badgered me about what a great person he is and what a great deed he performed. The humanitarian helps then moves on. It's the normal thing to do. Hubbard didn't move on. He stalked looking for or creating another flat-tire opportunity.

The above is my opinion, of course. Anyone is welcomed to disagree. I just feel that I need to balance some flows. That is, balance for me. I spent so many years telling the world what a great, brilliant guy hubbard was that it feels good to take him down a notch or two or three or more. Like all processes, this one will come to an end. But every time I think I am getting near that end something new pops into view.

My continued irritation arises from people I presume have done that checksheet. It is one thing to have a cert saying superliterate, it is a completely different thing to be literate period. These drive me nuts,and from there, I sink into apathy.

All I'm talking about are SIMPLE words:

your / you're

of / 've (the contraction for have)

their / there

Roger and I were on a list where I attempted to correct a woman's English. Boy did she take offense. (Hi Diane)
 

FoTi

Crusader
FoTi - Do you really mean TV series in the 40's? Don't you mean the 50's. 1940's TV was pretty basic, mainly reruns of old cowboy movies and a few old Laurel and Hardy movies and lots of wrestling and roller derby matches. Real sports occasionally appeared on TV in the 40's as well such as boxing matches sponsored by Gillette of "Look sharp, feel sharp and be sharp" fame, tennis matches, and an occasional baseball game.

I am not aware of any series which ran on TV in the 1940's. By around 1952 tons of TV series were running but the ramp up year was proabably 1952 itself. !950 and 1951 were more akin to the 40's as to TV programming with the two exceptions being lots of kids shows and news coverage coming onto TV in 1950 and 1951. I just know this from my own experiences having lived it in Los Angeles and turning 10 years old in December of 1949. I think the East Coast was ahead of us out in L.A.. Maybe there were some series on the East Coast but out on the West Coast, I do not recall any series on TV until 1952 when a whole bunch of them came on line, so to speak.

Lakey

I'm trying to remember this according to things that happened in my life. My father had a pool put in our back yard when I was 9 at the end of the 4th grade. That was the summer of 1950. My father was also starting to remodel our house....when he did that, he incorporated the guest house into the main house and it became the living room. I watched these shows on a TV in the guest house, which was before it got turned into the living room and got hooked up to the rest of the house and the guest house, as it was, disappeared. It seemed to me that I was around 7 or 8 when I was watching this series. That's why I said the 40's.....maybe 48 or 49. :confused2:

I looked on Wikipedia and it said that there was a Flash Gordon TV Series in 1954. I looked at the video on Youtube for the 1954 flash Gordon TV series. That's not the same show that I watched in the guest house. Besides, I was 12 or 13 when this TV Series aired and the house had been completely remodeled for at least a year or two so there was no way I could have watch the 1954 series in the guest house...it didn't exist anymore.

I also used to watch Hopalong Cassidy in the guest house....with my cowboy outfit, boots, hat and six guns. I used to hide behind the trees in the back yard by myself and shoot the attacking indians. A childhood imagination is great...I wish I still had it. I also loved the smell of cap guns when the caps got fired. I thought I was really hot in my Hopalong Cassidy outfit. LOL

This is the series I watched on the TV in the guest house. Maybe they just ran this old film as a series on TV. :confused2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7IleR1oFA&feature=related
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Yep, I though of that myself plus not handling her Ethics

From another way of looking at it, WHY did Sue ignore the lump, if not because of her realization that cancer would make her an illegal PC?

Yes, of course, I thought of that myself plus also, that they would always take her money no matter what she did to get it, even steal from her Father. The Standing Policy is the Ethics must be in before Tech could go in. This was repeatedly ignored in Sue's case. Even if she ripped her Dad off, that was considered ethical in C of S's view. Any means to get money into their coffers, probably even robbing a bank, would be deemed ethical by C of S.

My full conclusion is that had C of S been more enlightened and did not put the idea out there so strongly that all physical conditions could be handled better through auditing and the spirit and mind than through medical means, then Sue would have caught her cancer early and not have died at age 46. Going even earlier, when Sue was going out exchange and out ethics with her parents, if she was handled in Ethics first, as policy calls for and as George pushed so hard for them to do, then Sue may never have had cancer. That, however, is only speculation. I am saying that C of S had no direct involvement in her death. Had they been more enlightened and more ethical, we can certainly speculate that she may still be living but though likely, that is pure speculation. They should be held to account legally only for direct involvement. For speculative involvement, we can all form our own conclusions and may choose to avoid C of S but C of S can not be held to account for mere speculations, at least not officially.
Lakey
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
My continued irritation arises from people I presume have done that checksheet. It is one thing to have a cert saying superliterate, it is a completely different thing to be literate period. These drive me nuts,and from there, I sink into apathy.

All I'm talking about are SIMPLE words:

your / you're

of / 've (the contraction for have)

their / there

Roger and I were on a list where I attempted to correct a woman's English. Boy did she take offense. (Hi Diane)


My pet peeves are: "moment in time" and "period in time"

Periods and moments ARE time.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
Yes, of course, I thought of that myself plus also, that they would always take her money no matter what she did to get it, even steal from her Father. The Standing Policy is the Ethics must be in before Tech could go in. This was repeatedly ignored in Sue's case. Even if she ripped her Dad off, that was considered ethical in C of S's view. Any means to get money into their coffers, probably even robbing a bank, would be deemed ethical by C of S.

My full conclusion is that had C of S been more enlightened and did not put the idea out there so strongly that all physical conditions could be handled better through auditing and the spirit and mind than through medical means, then Sue would have caught her cancer early and not have died at age 46. Going even earlier, when Sue was going out exchange and out ethics with her parents, if she was handled in Ethics first, as policy calls for and as George pushed so hard for them to do, then Sue may never have had cancer. That, however, is only speculation. I am saying that C of S had no direct involvement in her death. Had they been more enlightened and more ethical, we can certainly speculate that she may still be living but though likely, that is pure speculation. They should be held to account legally only for direct involvement. For speculative involvement, we can all form our own conclusions and may choose to avoid C of S but C of S can not be held to account for mere speculations, at least not officially.
Lakey


Pardon me while I barf. There is a phrase that triggered it: "handling her ethics."

You could say, "raising her awareness," "helping her confront," "educating her on..." any number of phrases work for me. But, "handling her ethics," that one just makes me wanna barf. The images it conjures are just too much know-best, scientological cultural.

:puke:
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
Pardon me while I barf. There is a phrase that triggered it: "handling her ethics."

You could say, "raising her awareness," "helping her confront," "educating her on..." any number of phrases work for me. But, "handling her ethics," that one just makes me wanna barf. The images it conjures are just too much know-best, scientological cultural.

:puke:

Amen Bro'!:yes:

Face:)
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
From USA Today, 2008: www.usatoday.com/helen-reddy

Much like Shirley MacLaine, Reddy has become a disciple of past-life regression, helping people, through hypnotherapy, discover who they were before they were born into their current bodies. "We are in tumultuous times," she says. "In the last two months within an eight-day period, Jesus came through twice with my clients."

As for her own past lives, Reddy believes she has lived hundreds, including one as an Egyptian foreman who worked on the Great Pyramids and another as a Persian merchant with multiple wives and concubines — a life that led her to have sympathy for women.

She also suspects she may have written the French national anthem during the French Revolution: "That would be two times in my life that I'd written an anthem!"
 
Bernard Schwartz RIP

also known as Josephine

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Every New York kid who's grown up struggling on the hard side of the street has the dream: Someday I'm gonna bust outta here and make it big.

Bernie Schwartz is the kid who did.

He's the Jewish kid from the Bronx who, until he was 6, only spoke Hungarian. When he was 8, his mother put him and his brother Julius in an orphanage because she couldn’t afford to feed them.

That didn't kill the dream. Maybe it fed the dream. However it worked, Bernie Schwartz grew up to become Tony Curtis, a chiseled Hollywood hunk who lived the good life.

He married a movie star, Janet Leigh, and he became as big as she was, a magnet for teenage hormones who also learned to hold his own with Burt Lancaster, Sidney Poitier, Kirk Douglas, Jack Lemmon and Marilyn Monroe.

That's making it, my friend, and while Tony Curtis in later years could come off as high-strung and even mildly eccentric, he knew he was living the dream and he appreciated every minute of it.

That was clear on the screen, whether he was sweating with the slaves in "Spartacus" or adjusting his dress in "Some Like It Hot," and it was clear in person.

He had come far enough, he reflected, that he could look back on his early years with a kind of benevolent nostalgia.

He remembered stickball and street games, he said, not the fact that his father Emanuel, a struggling immigrant tailor, never made enough money to fulfill more basic American dreams like putting food on the table.

There were three boys in the Schwartz family – Bernie, Julius and Robert, who inherited his mother's illness. It was the Depression, which helped nobody, and Tony Curtis recalled how Bernie Schwartz thought about escaping from the tension at home by joining another family, a street gang.

By pure chance he was redirected, he said, right around the time Emanuel Schwartz was struck and killed by a truck.

Bernie was the only functional member of the family that day, so he had to identify the body.

Tony Curtis talked about all this as drama with a happy ending. At the time, he had a more visceral and common reaction: He took the first chance he saw to get out.

As soon as he was old enough, he joined the Navy, which he had seen ennobled in the movies by Cary Grant, his favorite actor.

When World War II ended, he came back to New York and signed up for acting lessons, figuring that was his quickest ticket to money and girls.

He did some Off-Broadway, got noticed and by 1948 headed for Hollywood, where his accent was considered a cute accessory to his Greek god look.

A fair number of dreamers get that far and then hit the wall. Not Bernie. He took it to the top.

Bernie Schwartz's dream may differ a little in the details from those of the people who walk his old streets today.

The movie dream maybe today is more a TV dream. The music dream that was songwriting for Berlin and Gershwin today might be rap. Basketball is on the list.

But in the larger sense, it's the same dream. "Whether you're Irish, Italian, Dominican or Puerto Rican," said Tony Curtis, "they're still the same streets."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local..._lived_the_hollywood_dream.html#ixzz113P9b6yP


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k812fxnpLAM
 
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Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
To FoTi

I just finished reading your story, and a helluva story it is! Thank you for taking the time and working through whatever you had to work through to lay it all out.

I am struck by several observations or feelings that run throughout your thread. Feel free to disagree with me:

As a case supervisor/auditor I think you are an easy pc, perhaps to easy for the system to understand. I say that because your early wins, and later, too, were absolutely stellar. If I were being honest as a C/S, after you had looked all you wished to look and stated all you wished to state about the win, I would say, "Fantastic! I recommend taking a break. These wins often blossom over time. See where it takes you. Come in to see the DofP to tell us how your life is going in a couple of weeks."

I would have told Jason Beghe something similar after his win on TRs -- if you have seen that video interview. Scientology isn't going to improve on wins like that because it has no clue to what stellar heights the being has risen.

Your stick-to-it-ness is absolutely fantastic.

The admin personnel you were interfacing with were absolutely criminal.

Like me, and others here, you were youthfully optimistic, good willed, and naive. Hubbard used us and our youth to his advantage while pretending it was to your (our) advantage. We had just enough of a win along the way to stick it out through thick and thin.

Your mother was low-toned through no fault of her own. This due to her childhood illness. As you noted, she was a sharp cookie nevertheless.

Your father loved you. No doubt about that.

Your parents were not suppressive. Any parent in their right mind would not want their child to be involved in the church of scientology.

Also, glad you are here now. We will definitely stay in touch.
 

RogerB

Crusader
I just finished reading your story, and a helluva story it is! Thank you for taking the time and working through whatever you had to work through to lay it all out.

I am struck by several observations or feelings that run throughout your thread. Feel free to disagree with me:

As a case supervisor/auditor I think you are an easy pc, perhaps to easy for the system to understand. I say that because your early wins, and later, too, were absolutely stellar. If I were being honest as a C/S, after you had looked all you wished to look and stated all you wished to state about the win, I would say, "Fantastic! I recommend taking a break. These wins often blossom over time. See where it takes you. Come in to see the DofP to tell us how your life is going in a couple of weeks."

I would have told Jason Beghe something similar after his win on TRs -- if you have seen that video interview. Scientology isn't going to improve on wins like that because it has no clue to what stellar heights the being has risen.

Your stick-to-it-ness is absolutely fantastic.

The admin personnel you were interfacing with were absolutely criminal.

Like me, and others here, you were youthfully optimistic, good willed, and naive. Hubbard used us and our youth to his advantage while pretending it was to your (our) advantage. We had just enough of a win along the way to stick it out through thick and thin.

Your mother was low-toned through no fault of her own. This due to her childhood illness. As you noted, she was a sharp cookie nevertheless.

Your father loved you. No doubt about that.

Your parents were not suppressive. Any parent in their right mind would not want their child to be involved in the church of scientology.

Also, glad you are here now. We will definitely stay in touch.

As I've said before Ted, you're a class act . . . . and this above is a very, very classy post.

Well stated, and true.

R
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
I believe these referenced writings are total garbage as pronounced with a French accent, i.e. Gar' baj! I don't know too much about Captain Bill, but if he penned these Looney Tunes by claiming to be in touch with Elron Elray by telepathy, that is wilder than anything which LRH ever came up with on his own!
Lakey

Captain Bill was an “acquired taste”. I liked the guy and he was one of the best execs I ever served under. He was “crazy like a fox” and definately “crazy as a loon” but, never-the-less, I still like him. I don’t buy all of his “Ron’s Org” briefing stuff but he’d be welcome in my foxhole if we was takin’ fire—can’t say that for the prissy sissy popinjay we both used to follow orders from.:yes:

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