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Hatshepsut

Crusader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Jh1jgsgZk


Lots of talent comes from that area of the planet. I think its all that good oxygen put out by the trees.

Bohemian Grove

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Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Personally, I don't believe that they properly identified the true cause of the "Colony Collapse Disorder" that is killing off the honeybee's. I believe that Mike Adams addresses the true issues here in this article:

http://www.naturalnews.com/029989_Colony_Collapse_Disorder_virus.html


(NaturalNews) A group of biologists claims they've found the cause of Colony Collapse Disorder -- the devastating but mysterious phenomenon of rapidly disappearing honeybees. According to their research, published in PLoS One, the population collapse is caused by the combination of a virus and a fungus (Iridovirus and Microsporidian).


What you also have these days are mobile bee colonies. Bee keepers transport them from field to field, which both stresses the bees and also increases the probability of their being exposed to infectious sources.
 

RogerB

Crusader
My goodness this is a well cultured board. :eyeroll: Is it unusual for opera to be sung in latin these days?

Not "opera" per se, Hats.

This is from a choral piece, rather like Mozart's wonderful Requiem (also sung in Latin) or Beethoven's Ode to Joy (sung in German)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuuQfEWqKz0

Other parts of the Requiem have soloists. Such beautiful music. This rendition by Claudio Abbado at the memorial service of Herbert Von Karajan is my favorite . . . so beautifully rendered. Above is only one of around twelve parts of the performance on YouTube.

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What you also have these days are mobile bee colonies. Bee keepers transport them from field to field, which both stresses the bees and also increases the probability of their being exposed to infectious sources.

Australian bees are imported yearly for agriculture in California's Central Valley. I would think disease transmissions internationally would alone cause major problems.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
So nice to know that you are into this Music Rog!!!

Not "opera" per se, Hats.

This is from a choral piece, rather like Mozart's wonderful Requiem (also sung in Latin) or Beethoven's Ode to Joy (sung in German)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuuQfEWqKz0

Other parts of the Requiem have soloists. Such beautiful music. This rendition by Claudio Abbado at the memorial service of Herbert Von Karajan is my favorite . . . so beautifully rendered. Above is only one of around twelve parts of the performance on YouTube.

R

It is really nice to know that you are into this type of music Roger! EP also shares our zeal. You had mentioned Beethoven's famous Choral Symphony. his 9th and last Symphony of 1824 with the choral, "Ode to Joy" which is so famous but only in 2001 did I become aware of Beethoven's earlier piece from 1808, his Choral Fantasy. The Choral portion of the Choral Fantasy is quite similar in melody to his Choral Symphony of 16 years later but though the melodies are similar they are far from being the same. I like the Choral Fantasy slightly better because Beethoven had a more youthful exuberance in the 1808 piece. Here is a clip.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQV2a3i21q0&feature=related


Wow, true that those were simpler times, 1791 for the Mozart and 1808 for the Beethoven but though the times were simpler, some very deep, perhaps complex emotions were tapped into by these two great master's, Austria's native Son, Mozart, and Germany's favorite son, Beethoven!! If mankind could develop such glorious works of art back then without any of our modern technologies, both electronic and spiritual, what might we achieve if our new technologies were all correctly taught to all beings via public education? The possibilities are staggering! It gives hope that the future of planet Earth may yet be bright and a beacon for other civilizations to follow. All we have to do is to learn and apply the valid technologies, expecially the spiritual and mental technologies which we have.
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Aw, phooey!

Well, I just spent over an hour writing a pithy long post...and lost it due to a computer glitch/timeout...:pfft: :depressed:

I hate technology! :grouch:

Well, it's a beautiful day out so I am going forth into the real world to do some good work.

Have a wonderful day, everyone! :happydance:

Oh, I started by saying hello and welcome to Mike Goldstein, so I will repeat that much for now!

Glad you could join us Mike, good to see you here! :welcome2:
 
In lieu of what I wrote, here is another soul's story that Neo posted. Scientology kids need mondo help and support, whether in or out of COS or in transition. Evidently the cult was not prosecuted for it's crimes here, in bold:

Scientology Took His Money and His Life

http://newsblaze.com/story/200805090.../Opinions.html

Eric Rubio thought he would become happy and important in Scientology. Instead the cult left this inadequate and solitary man to starve to death in a foreign country.

Eric Rubio died in Denmark in January 2002, aged 35. He was a simple soul, who found many things in life rather difficult. He had got involved with Scientology ten years earlier when living with his father in Paris and, like many more intelligent people, found it an exciting experience. His mother, another inadequate soul, at first thought that her son had got involved with a religious organization and by the time she knew enough to warn Eric, it was too late. Worse, she was defined as an SP or suppressive (critical) person, and Eric, who had so few resources, had to choose between his mother and the cult. Up to 1991 he continued to work at various jobs in Paris, then in 1992 moved to Denmark to join the Sea Org. His mother found that his few letters seemed to come from a distant person she found difficult to recognize.

In 1994 he wrote that he was disillusioned with the Sea Org: he had to work very hard, live in dreadful conditions, and was paid almost nothing. It seems likely that Eric never progressed beyond the initial punitive phase as a member of the EPF (Estates Project Force), who are used as slave labor in building projects and in maintenance prior to being promoted to the elite Sea Org. It also seems likely that the brutal treatment had serious long-term effects on his physical health and mental stability. At any rate he felt in 1994 that he had wasted two years of his life and planned to return to France. However it is not so easy to get out of Scientology. Eric needed a birth certificate to get new ID papers from the French embassy and wrote to ask his mother to send this document. She did, but it did not arrive. So Eric wrote again and his mother again responded, anxious to do anything to help, but he never got her letters. It is known from other sources that letters and other communications between Sea Org members and their suppressive families are monitored and censored or suppressed.

In 1997 Eric was declared an SP and unfit to be a member of the Sea Org. In fact it appears that his health had given way. This meant that he lost his accommodation with the Sea Org, poor though it was, and had to fend for himself in a foreign country. For a while he worked in a restaurant and as an office cleaner, and moved from one address to another but he began to fail both physically and mentally. He developed cataracts and hyperparathyroidism. His mind became confused, his behavior increasingly violent, and he couldn't hold down a job and had to rely on state assistance. Besides all this he was entirely alone in Denmark and never learned to speak Danish. He reduced his diet to vegetables and finally to onions and garlic.

Events of the last year or so of his life are not clear. In October 2000 he was very ill but apparently wrote to the Copenhagen organization applying to rejoin. The main outcome of this appears to have been a demand for the repayment of imaginary course fees. More certainly they were still trying to sell him expensive (and useless) books. From 2000 to his death he paid $132 to the CoS every month out of his social payments of $700. The CoS, shameless as ever in the face of yet another 'black PR' disaster, say that Eric made only one payment Anette Refstrup, a leading Danish Scientologist, also made the incredible claim that 'No-one is obliged to stay [in Scientology] if they don't want to. It would be impossible to keep people here against their will'. Those who know how Scientology works will know how true this is.

On 9 November 2001, hoping still for a solution to his very real problems, Eric Rubio used his last money to pay for a course at the Yoga school. Then he stopped going out and, by then completely deranged, tried to live on nothing but water and garlic. His social worker, worried about his lack of contact, cut off his benefit, expecting him to respond when he ran out of money. But he did not. Instead on January 15 2002 he was found dead in his clean but empty kitchen in his clean but empty flat. He weighed only 45 kilos (90 pounds), about half the normal weight for his height (1.67m). He had been trying to get home to his mother in France for more than seven years.

During those seven years many Danish people helped him to the best of their ability, but Scientology, which was responsible for bringing him to Copenhagen, was only concerned with recovering the money he allegedly owed them and with increasing his debts. They had exploited him as long as he was fit and otherwise had no interest in him. Eric Rubio was not stupid - he was naturally a happy person - but he was defenseless against such heartless exploitation.
 
Thank you Schwimmy, for posting that. :thumbsup: I had not heard his story before, and I'm sure many others have not either. :no: COS is still interfering with the mail, and in some cases the phone calls of members who are dependant and under their control.
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
During those seven years many Danish people helped him to the best of their ability, but Scientology, which was responsible for bringing him to Copenhagen, was only concerned with recovering the money he allegedly owed them and with increasing his debts. They had exploited him as long as he was fit and otherwise had no interest in him. Eric Rubio was not stupid - he was naturally a happy person - but he was defenseless against such heartless exploitation.

The org only cares about the stats they can extract out of you. Individual good people who happen to be on staff may care about people, but the institution only cares about stats ( = $$$).
 
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