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Hatshepsut

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Is dat you on the left? :eyeroll:

I used to have ringlets like that when I was a little girl. We didn't have curlers back then and my mother used to roll my hair up on rags and tie them to make my hair come out lookin' like that.

Got photos to share? :dance2:

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Hatshepsut

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It's a good idea. Whether or not he was a christian, it is what Jesus taught. Gautama Siddhartha was also big on the concept.

Hatred just makes people irrational. That can only lead to poor decision making.


Mark A. Baker

Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.
Mark Twain
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FoTi

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Got photos to share? :dance2:

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Nope. No photos. I don't have any photos of my family or me as a kid. I don't know what ever happened to them, but I would make a guess that my dad's last wife, when he died, probably threw them out or burned any family pictures that were in the house.
 
Well, you may certainly hate what they do, but if you hate them, you will suffer for it yourself . . . . this because you have lessened yourself and departed from your most optimum.

The other side of the coin is, why be changed because some other idiot is nasty. Much wiser, if you are able to, to maintain the integrity of your highest level of Being.

And then, there is always that other proposition we hear touted: if you are totally saintly yourself you don't "attract" the evil shit because it is "not on your wavelength" (or you not on its) . . . but I think that's more theory than absolute fact :p

It is also possible to kill, for example in self defense or in war, without hatred. Did you know that the American Indian honored and, in effect, said a loving prayer for the game he was killing to eat?

And yes, I do understand the guys who did the 9/11 job . . . I sure as hell do not agree with them or their view of things; but understand them I do.

It's planet Earth we are on; it's one step up from an idiot asylum, and they're operating on a very bum belief system. What's not to understand?

But because they are idiots, why should I be hard on myself?

Many years ago, I used to have to go to the effort of pulling fools out of the raging Pacific surf. I used to get angry at them and their foolishness. They were typically "New Ozzie" immigrant types or tourists who just did stupid things on the beaches.

But you know, my anger did not help me or them, and only left me feeling pissed off at the universe for the rest of the day. And then I discovered some tech that helped me handle my anger :p But that's another story :D

Rog

Hateing in general has a very bad effect on one's self, health, sanity, etc...like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.
 
Brilliant Essay from Jeff Hawkins' blog!!!

Reprinted here for our lurkers:

"Think for Yourself
November 5, 2010
tags: Scientology, Leaving Scientology, thought-stopping, Cult, think for yourself
by Jeff

Of course, that’s one of the slogans of the Church of Scientology. I ought to know – I was very much involved in its development and implementation.

Here’s some of the back story. In the late 1980s and early 1990’s, we did a lot of surveys on the subject of Scientology, in preparation for the launch of a major campaign. Our surveys showed that Scientology was vastly unpopular. In order to handle this negative public image, I started digging in with more surveys. I found that people considered Scientology to be a cult. And so I had further surveys done to find out what people thought a cult was. The top “cult” item was that one could not disagree with the cult leader or the cult doctrine.

In this, public perception of what constitutes a cult was pretty accurate. In a cult, one may never, never, never challenge the cult doctrines or the cult leader (guru, prophet, founder). Here’s Steve Hassan again, from Combatting Cult Mind Control:

“Thought-stopping is the most direct way to short circuit a person’s ability to test reality. Indeed, if someone is able to think only positive thoughts about his involvement with the group, he is most certainly stuck. Since the doctrine is perfect and the leader is perfect, any problem that crops up is assumed to be the fault of the individual member. He learns always to blame himself and work harder.”

So, we knew that public thought Scientology was a cult, and we knew what they thought a cult was, so how do we handle? About this time, I came across a memo Hubbard had written in the 1950s about using the slogan “Think for Yourself” to promote Dianetics. Perfect, I thought. It’s directly counter to the number one cult button. So it should be effective in changing public perception.

I should have taken it one step further. I should have asked, is it true? Can one actually think for oneself in Scientology?

A Scientologist would argue – and I would have argued, as a Scientologist – that yes, of course, Scientologists do think for themselves. And one might pull out some LRH quotes to prove it. Quotes like these:

From “How to Study Scientology” (Ability Magazine, Feb 1959)

“You are asked to examine the subject of Scientology on a critical basis—a very critical basis.“

“So then we ask you to look at Scientology, study it, question it, and use it as we present it and you will have discovered something for yourself. And in so doing you might well discover a lot more.”

“When you have applied it as it should be, and applied as it is taught at the school, and still find it unworkable, it is your privilege to question it and, if you like, reject it.“

Or this one, from the 1960 lecture, Differences Between Scientology & Other Philosophies:

“If it is true for you, it’s true. And if it’s not true for you, it still isn’t true. Not even if Ron told you is it true. It’s just not true, that’s all.”

But a former Scientologist might argue that it is not actually true that one can disagree with Hubbard or disagree with Scientology doctrines. In fact, there are many, many procedures and remedies to handle people who disagree with the tech: word clearing, Study Tech, cramming, Ethics, Keeping Scientology Working, Keeping Admin Working, and so forth. Just think of voicing a disagreement with LRH inside a Scientology Org and imagine what happens.

So we could argue this back and forth. “Yes, Scientologists think for themselves.” “No, they don’t.” We could have one of those black-and-white arguments I talked about in the last post.

But there is a way to test this out.

Let’s envision a Scientologist going through the process described in the Hubbard quote, above. He picks up each bit of technology, looks at it, compares it to his own experience, tries using it and either accepts it (decides it’s true for him) or rejects it (decides it isn’t true for him). And let’s say he has three bins: Uninspected Data, Accepted Data, and Rejected Data. (He could have an “Undecided” bin, but for simplicity, let’s just say he throws any undecided bits back into Bin #1.) So it would look like this:

How do you know if he’s actually going through this process?

Inspect the contents of his Bin #3.

Just ask a Scientologist this one question: “Is there anything L. Ron Hubbard has said that you disagree with?” Watch his or her reaction. I’ve actually done this. Some people just respond with confusion, they hem and haw and stall. Some are just outraged at the idea of disagreeing with Hubbard. And some will actually tell you the things they personally disagree with or found not to be true.

And some will say, “I inspected everything and I agree with everything Hubbard says.”

Right.

No, the bottom line is this: If your Bin 3 is empty, then you are not thinking for yourself."

Source: http://leavingscientology.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/think-for-yourself/
 

Hatshepsut

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Nope. No photos. I don't have any photos of my family or me as a kid. I don't know what ever happened to them, but I would make a guess that my dad's last wife, when he died, probably threw them out or burned any family pictures that were in the house.

I've had that happen. What posesses people to destroy photos. :confused2: Do they think there is some power there. :ohmy: I feel for you. I would very much like to have the ones of my life between 1975 and 1984. All gone. :grouch: nothing left. Friends and relatives do things in the heat of the moment and then do not want to admit what they did. Of course they probably throw away some of their own stuff on a whim and end up wishing they hadn't also. My mom has a vendetta when it comes to purging her home of excess, especially if it is made of paper. The BBQ built into the ground in the back yard is used year round.
 

FoTi

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I've had that happen. What posesses people to destroy photos. :confused2: Do they think there is some power there. :ohmy: I feel for you. I would very much like to have the ones of my life between 1975 and 1984. All gone. :grouch: nothing left. Friends and relatives do things in the heat of the moment and then do not want to admit what they did. Of course they probably throw away some of their own stuff on a whim and end up wishing they hadn't also. My mom has a vendetta when it comes to purging her home of excess, especially if it is made of paper. The BBQ built into the ground in the back yard is used year round.

It would be fun now to sit down and go through family albums, but when I was in Scientology I didn't care about such things, so I didn't bother to try to save that stuff.....I just let it go. Scientology had a huge influence on how I thought, the decisions I made and what I did with my life for 30 years....kind of made a mess of my life.....did a lot of stupid things.

The only pictures of me that I know exist, prior to Scientology, are in my early 20's....I found them on the internet. Funny what shows up on the internet.
 
I've had that happen. What posesses people to destroy photos. :confused2: Do they think there is some power there. :ohmy: I feel for you. I would very much like to have the ones of my life between 1975 and 1984. All gone. :grouch: nothing left. Friends and relatives do things in the heat of the moment and then do not want to admit what they did. Of course they probably throw away some of their own stuff on a whim and end up wishing they hadn't also. My mom has a vendetta when it comes to purging her home of excess, especially if it is made of paper. The BBQ built into the ground in the back yard is used year round.

we have drawers chuck full of photos plus loads of photo albums for each of our kids. Do you want to see our daughter as Princess Ying Yaowalak in "The King and I"? If Yul Brynner hadn't died, she would have played the role opposite him on stage. He was signed to do it.

How about playing dress ups in Jessica McClintock's house?

Then there is a huge box of photos because my wife was the staff photographer for a TV series.

having too much is almost the same as not having any. Too crushed to look.

This is why I like i Photo on the Mac. If I want to see pictures of Carter, I just click on Carter and all he digital shots we have pop right up.

We do photo calendars every year. With digital, it's fun and easy.

We used to do yearbooks for my wife's school. That was so much work, cutting negatives, making plates,. ... Thank god for the digital revolution.
 

Hatshepsut

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we have drawers chuck full of photos plus loads of photo albums for each of our kids. Do you want to see our daughter as Princess Ying Yaowalak in "The King and I"? If Yul Brynner hadn't died, she would have played the role opposite him on stage. He was signed to do it.
Yes yes yes!

How about playing dress ups in Jessica McClintock's house?
Oh my fav fragrance :happydance:

Then there is a huge box of photos because my wife was the staff photographer for a TV series.

having too much is almost the same as not having any. Too crushed to look.

This is why I like i Photo on the Mac. If I want to see pictures of Carter, I just click on Carter and all he digital shots we have pop right up.
You have to be willing to take the time to tag them in the first place...:nervous:

We do photo calendars every year. With digital, it's fun and easy.
I did one last year when I could not find any left at the bookstore. Very fast very easy.

We used to do yearbooks for my wife's school. That was so much work, cutting negatives, making plates,. ... Thank god for the digital revolution.

Now what to do with my old Olympus and all those rolls of film . :p
 
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