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It's Official - Cincinnati Lost Its Snr C/S.

SirRalliart said:
Wow, Thanks for the welcoming!!

I'm just reading my new thread. Been at the lake all weekend winterizing the lake house and boat and watching the Cowboys finally win two in a row. I could never say such things when I was staff!! Not only would it be impossible when working 360 days a year, but it would be pts-to-the-middle-class sacrilege! It's novel that I can sit on the deck and watch the sunset drinking a Shiner and not have to feel completely guilty and wonder what I will say on that next w/h question.

I know I owe everybody a good story and the more I think about the more I realize all of the BS I have put up with for a decade and a half on staff. Obviously, I have lots of stuff to say and will try to keep from ranting too much.

Perhaps I'll leave some tidbits. I was there for the "IRS victory." I was there for the GAT implemetation. I was there for "arbitraries removed." I was there for some big-ass refunds. I was there for 7 seats as Comm Ev Chair. I was there for my own Comm Ev by the SNR C/S EUS, who, but the way, is now declared SP. I was there for my full completion of the Comm Ev Recs through IJC. I was there for XDN training at St. Hill. I was there for CCRD training. I was there for the Grades being delivered too quickly in 2008. I was there for the Grades being delivered too long in 2009/2010. I was there for the over-regging carrot-chasing Idle Org. I was there for the chase by HCO from Ohio to Texas to Minnesota - my neighbors and relatives still ask about those odd people trying to "talk" to me.

Ok, there's the general outline already. If the football game is boring tonight, I'll start on Chapter One!

Mike Roiger
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Whoa... I think we might have another good book in potential. Chapter One, please! :) Also, feel free to rant as much as you want! "TITS!" (as the W/S abbreviation) Lol!. :D:coolwink::thumbsup: As the techie myself, I would love to hear from you. Take your time though, life is good when one is out. Enjoy some peace of mind, Mike.
 
Welcome, Mike!!! :bighug:

I'm curious---In the 90's the CO of LA Org got pregnant
and I thought was sent to Cincinnati Org, no? Do you know
who I mean? She married a reg guy here, and they both
were sent to somewhere in the midwest. I thought it was there.

Congratulations on getting out!!! It's one wild ride, no question about it. We all enjoy each other, and I know
each of us is happy for you that you're out, and speaking
out, too.

Great you're watching football and enjoying life!
I look forward to hearing more from you :yes::welcome2:

Tory/Magoo
www.youtube.com/ToryMagoo44
 
SirRalliart said:
Wow, Thanks for the welcoming!!

I'm just reading my new thread. Been at the lake all weekend winterizing the lake house and boat and watching the Cowboys finally win two in a row. I could never say such things when I was staff!! Not only would it be impossible when working 360 days a year, but it would be pts-to-the-middle-class sacrilege! It's novel that I can sit on the deck and watch the sunset drinking a Shiner and not have to feel completely guilty and wonder what I will say on that next w/h question.

I know I owe everybody a good story and the more I think about the more I realize all of the BS I have put up with for a decade and a half on staff. Obviously, I have lots of stuff to say and will try to keep from ranting too much.

Perhaps I'll leave some tidbits. I was there for the "IRS victory."

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I'm probably not one of the best people to welcome you, but I mean it sincerely, WELCOME to freedom.

I was there for IRS victory, was out before the rest of Miscavige spew you mention.

Savor life in the free world. Have a beer or three. Chill out watching sunsets for no reason.

After you have destimulated a bit, you are very welcome to post whatever information you want, here or any other forum or anywhere else you choose to.

Nice, huh?

Fuck weekly stats.

Live your life.

And please post info whenever you feel comfortable.

For purely selfish reasons, I hope you brought / kept scientology documents.

If you want docs posted but don't know how, PM me, I'll be more than happy to spread LRH tech anonymously on your behalf.

That probably didn't come out right.

Oh well, at least I don't have to worry about a Comm Ev for a silly fuckup.

Cheers,
OTBT
 
OTBT said:
I'm probably not one of the best people to welcome you, but I mean it sincerely, WELCOME to freedom.

I was there for IRS victory, was out before the rest of Miscavige spew you mention.

Savor life in the free world. Have a beer or three. Chill out watching sunsets for no reason.

After you have destimulated a bit, you are very welcome to post whatever information you want, here or any other forum or anywhere else you choose to.

Nice, huh?

Fuck weekly stats.

Live your life.

And please post info whenever you feel comfortable.

For purely selfish reasons, I hope you brought / kept scientology documents.

If you want docs posted but don't know how, PM me, I'll be more than happy to spread LRH tech anonymously on your behalf.

That probably didn't come out right.

Oh well, at least I don't have to worry about a Comm Ev for a silly fuckup.

Cheers,
OTBT
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Nice, OTBT. I think, I just had LFBD/FN on every line you listed!

Even though one can't technically LFBD/FN on every line, or can they? :yes:

Great post.
 
Re: Daughter

Stat said:
"Friend of a friend" passed it to me in private and although it's not my Org and I thought it's just a rumor or a wishful thinking anyway, I was delighted to stumble upon on one of the new members here on ESMB while reading one of the recent threads that confirmed it - Mike Roiger (SirRalliart: http://www.forum.exscn.net/member.php?u=6935 ), Cincinnati Org's Snr C/S for 11 years or so, Clear, Grad V C/S, XDN C/S, CCRD C/S, KTL-LOC C/S, FPRD C/S, Purif C/S... is officially out. Please, give Mike a warm welcome. I am sure he is decompressing right now and might need all the love or at least understanding he can get. Also, feel free to pm him on anything you think can help him to start his life over, like a decent job, etc. Not that he can't deal with it on his own. But you know. He might tell his story or not, but I think he deserves a warm greeting either way. Cheers :)
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Good News, lets hope my daughter follows, she is Senior C/S at ITO in LA. Yeh that would be great :thumbsup:
 
SirRalliart said:
Wow, Thanks for the welcoming!!

I'm just reading my new thread. Been at the lake all weekend winterizing the lake house and boat and watching the Cowboys finally win two in a row. I could never say such things when I was staff!! Not only would it be impossible when working 360 days a year, but it would be pts-to-the-middle-class sacrilege! It's novel that I can sit on the deck and watch the sunset drinking a Shiner and not have to feel completely guilty and wonder what I will say on that next w/h question.

I know I owe everybody a good story and the more I think about the more I realize all of the BS I have put up with for a decade and a half on staff. Obviously, I have lots of stuff to say and will try to keep from ranting too much.

Perhaps I'll leave some tidbits. I was there for the "IRS victory." I was there for the GAT implemetation. I was there for "arbitraries removed." I was there for some big-ass refunds. I was there for 7 seats as Comm Ev Chair. I was there for my own Comm Ev by the SNR C/S EUS, who, but the way, is now declared SP. I was there for my full completion of the Comm Ev Recs through IJC. I was there for XDN training at St. Hill. I was there for CCRD training. I was there for the Grades being delivered too quickly in 2008. I was there for the Grades being delivered too long in 2009/2010. I was there for the over-regging carrot-chasing Idle Org. I was there for the chase by HCO from Ohio to Texas to Minnesota - my neighbors and relatives still ask about those odd people trying to "talk" to me.

Ok, there's the general outline already. If the football game is boring tonight, I'll start on Chapter One!

Mike Roiger
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Hello Mike,
This sounds all too familiar. Welcome here!
The "chase scene" sounds fun! Would love to hear about that!
There is never too much ranting, by the way. It lets off steam and as the pressure cooker gasket loosens you will find more steam coming out! I think you're entitled!
Looking forward to the stories.


And seriously...for folks who may not know what is meant by the next w/h (withhold) question.....it goes like this:

Auditor: Has a withhold been missed? Fall on the meter
Preclear: I had a beer.
Auditor: When was it?
PC: Last weekend
Auditor: Is that all of it? Tick, tick on the meter
PC: Well, no.
Auditor: What else did you do? (Auditor slightly more stern here)
PC: I watched a game on TV.
Auditor: What exactly did you DO??
PC: I left post 15 minutes early so I could get home to watch the
game. I watched the game for 2 hours and had 2 beers.
Auditor: Is that ALL of the withhold? (Auditor really pries here!)
PC: Yes.
Auditor: How have you justified it?
PC: No one can go Clear in 15 minutes anyway.
Auditor: How else?
PC: I finished all my folders anyway.
Auditor: How else?
PC: No one would miss me. I mentioned earlier to my senior that
I wanted to see the game and he didn't say anything. I love
football. I never get to watch the games. (you get the idea).
Auditor: Who missed it?
PC: Wife.
Auditor: What did wife do?
PC: Said, happily, oh! You're home early!
Auditor: Who else?
PC: My dog
Auditor: What did your dog do?
PC: Was nice to me and I realized that my dog isn't clear and that's why he likes me and I realize now that I really should have spent that 15 minutes on post like I was supposed to because that represents a 15 minute delay world-wide in clearing the planet and I see that I've stopped the Bridge progress of every being and animal everywhere.
Auditor: Thank you. Your needle is floating.

Next step: See ethics and do lower conditions (aka grovelling) for being irresponsible. Then please see the reg as you are now out of hours at nearly $8,000 per 12.5 hours of this shit and we just know you have more withholds.

Now it seems :hysterical: But this is purely nuts!!

So, do marvel at those sunsets and those beers! Just live!!
 
Arthur Dent said:
Hello Mike,
This sounds all too familiar. Welcome here!
The "chase scene" sounds fun! Would love to hear about that!
There is never too much ranting, by the way. It lets off steam and as the pressure cooker gasket loosens you will find more steam coming out! I think you're entitled!
Looking forward to the stories.


And seriously...for folks who may not know what is meant by the next w/h (withhold) question.....it goes like this:

Auditor: Has a withhold been missed? Fall on the meter
Preclear: I had a beer.
Auditor: When was it?
PC: Last weekend
Auditor: Is that all of it? Tick, tick on the meter
PC: Well, no.
Auditor: What else did you do? (Auditor slightly more stern here)
PC: I watched a game on TV.
Auditor: What exactly did you DO??
PC: I left post 15 minutes early so I could get home to watch the
game. I watched the game for 2 hours and had 2 beers.
Auditor: Is that ALL of the withhold? (Auditor really pries here!)
PC: Yes.
Auditor: How have you justified it?
PC: No one can go Clear in 15 minutes anyway.
Auditor: How else?
PC: I finished all my folders anyway.
Auditor: How else?
PC: No one would miss me. I mentioned earlier to my senior that
I wanted to see the game and he didn't say anything. I love
football. I never get to watch the games. (you get the idea).
Auditor: Who missed it?
PC: Wife.
Auditor: What did wife do?
PC: Said, happily, oh! You're home early!
Auditor: Who else?
PC: My dog
Auditor: What did your dog do?
PC: Was nice to me and I realized that my dog isn't clear and that's why he likes me and I realize now that I really should have spent that 15 minutes on post like I was supposed to because that represents a 15 minute delay world-wide in clearing the planet and I see that I've stopped the Bridge progress of every being and animal everywhere.
Auditor: Thank you. Your needle is floating.

Next step: See ethics and do lower conditions (aka grovelling) for being irresponsible. Then please see the reg as you are now out of hours at nearly $8,000 per 12.5 hours of this shit and we just know you have more withholds.

Now it seems :hysterical: But this is purely nuts!!

So, do marvel at those sunsets and those beers! Just live!!
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:lol::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
 
Arthur Dent said:
Hello Mike,
This sounds all too familiar. Welcome here!
The "chase scene" sounds fun! Would love to hear about that!
There is never too much ranting, by the way. It lets off steam and as the pressure cooker gasket loosens you will find more steam coming out! I think you're entitled!
Looking forward to the stories.


And seriously...for folks who may not know what is meant by the next w/h (withhold) question.....it goes like this:

Auditor: Has a withhold been missed? Fall on the meter
Preclear: I had a beer.
Auditor: When was it?
PC: Last weekend
Auditor: Is that all of it? Tick, tick on the meter
PC: Well, no.
Auditor: What else did you do? (Auditor slightly more stern here)
PC: I watched a game on TV.
Auditor: What exactly did you DO??
PC: I left post 15 minutes early so I could get home to watch the
game. I watched the game for 2 hours and had 2 beers.
Auditor: Is that ALL of the withhold? (Auditor really pries here!)
PC: Yes.
Auditor: How have you justified it?
PC: No one can go Clear in 15 minutes anyway.
Auditor: How else?
PC: I finished all my folders anyway.
Auditor: How else?
PC: No one would miss me. I mentioned earlier to my senior that
I wanted to see the game and he didn't say anything. I love
football. I never get to watch the games. (you get the idea).
Auditor: Who missed it?
PC: Wife.
Auditor: What did wife do?
PC: Said, happily, oh! You're home early!
Auditor: Who else?
PC: My dog
Auditor: What did your dog do?
PC: Was nice to me and I realized that my dog isn't clear and that's why he likes me and I realize now that I really should have spent that 15 minutes on post like I was supposed to because that represents a 15 minute delay world-wide in clearing the planet and I see that I've stopped the Bridge progress of every being and animal everywhere.
Auditor: Thank you. Your needle is floating.

Next step: See ethics and do lower conditions (aka grovelling) for being irresponsible. Then please see the reg as you are now out of hours at nearly $8,000 per 12.5 hours of this shit and we just know you have more withholds.

Now it seems :hysterical: But this is purely nuts!!

So, do marvel at those sunsets and those beers! Just live!!
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:laugh: :thumbsup: And THAT is about how it actually goes, in scn, folks! :yes: :eyeroll: :no: :duh:
 
:clap: Way to go Mike! It's always wonderful when someone breaks free from a controlling person or group.

I'm looking forward to your posts on this board, which is full of great resources and wonderful people who know how you feel right now (me excluded). :thumbsup:
 
Welcome to freedom Mike. :happydance::happydance:

We are always keen to hear inside skinny which provides extra fodder for bringing the CoS to account, looking forward to reading more of your story.:yes:

Oh yeah, I believe that Renate Barton had signed a staff contract for Cincinnati org about 3 years ago. I know she didn't honour it, which is poor form for someone on OT7. She back in Austria now so she's probably signed up there too.

Do you know her?
 
Happy Days said:
Welcome to freedom Mike. :happydance::happydance:

We are always keen to hear inside skinny which provides extra fodder for bringing the CoS to account, looking forward to reading more of your story.:yes:

Oh yeah, I believe that Renate Barton had signed a staff contract for Cincinnati org about 3 years ago. I know she didn't honour it, which is poor form for someone on OT7. She back in Austria now so she's probably signed up there too.

Do you know her?
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Only know her by name. I think she's buddies with the ED.
We tended to hire people from many different countries. Always had a good immigration lawyer and worked directly with the embassies. Odd for a Class V org, but when your ED and Chf Reg are SO...
 
David Sonenfild's ex wife Brenda was my best friend.

I worked with him at AOLA.

He is, and was, an asshole.

Just want to clear up that point.
 
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