The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But
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Hatshepsut
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lkwdblds
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I read your link Hats.....
I read the entire article you linked to Hats and found it very interesting! When this type of information starts being taught in our Universities it will signal an upturn in the Wisdom level prevalent on Earth. The theory and ideas presented are not Hubbard's nor are they from Eastern Religions. It is very encouraging that Western thought now contains within it, articles such as this one.
That's two bits of encouragement which I have experienced in the last 24 hours, the other being the mind set of the two young Mexican families which invited LH and myself to join their party last night. Those two families were up in the "spirit of play" and "games" band of activities. We need more families such as theirs to populate the countries of Earth and raise the tone level of the entire planet.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON HELPING OTHERS LH needed some help last night and I was able to give it. It was not easy but my necessity level was high and I was able to dig deep and come up with the help she needed. The night cap with the two Mexican families capped off and locked in the gains which I been able to steer LH into achieving.
BEING EXTERIOR TO PROBLEMS VS BEING INTERIOR TO THEM - I am good at helping others find solutions to problems if I am exterior to their problems. I did a lot of this with my ex wife at one point around 6 months ago and more recently have done it with other people in my circle of friends.
When I am interior to a problem, I have virtually no ability to handle the problem without guidance from an outside source. If I try to do it analytically, I just spin in with a lot of figure-figure. I mentioned this to Purple Haze and she replied that there are methods to create more space between a person and his/her problems if the person is interior to the problem.
THIS IS AN INTRIGUING CONCEPT, MAKING A PROBLEM TO WHICH YOU ARE INTERIOR MORE SIMILAR TO A PROBLEM TO WHICH YOU ARE EXTERIOR BY INTRODUCING NEW SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR PROBLEM, THUS ENABLING YOU TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT ON YOUR OWN.
Lakey
Looks interesting Leon.I went to the bottom of the webpage and clicked on 'index' and one of the articles was this one.
http://thomastroward.wwwhubs.com/teloms1.htm
This article below is the one that blew me away though. Good find Leon.
THE UNITY OF THE SPIRIT
http://thomastroward.wwwhubs.com/teloms3.htm
I read the entire article you linked to Hats and found it very interesting! When this type of information starts being taught in our Universities it will signal an upturn in the Wisdom level prevalent on Earth. The theory and ideas presented are not Hubbard's nor are they from Eastern Religions. It is very encouraging that Western thought now contains within it, articles such as this one.
That's two bits of encouragement which I have experienced in the last 24 hours, the other being the mind set of the two young Mexican families which invited LH and myself to join their party last night. Those two families were up in the "spirit of play" and "games" band of activities. We need more families such as theirs to populate the countries of Earth and raise the tone level of the entire planet.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON HELPING OTHERS LH needed some help last night and I was able to give it. It was not easy but my necessity level was high and I was able to dig deep and come up with the help she needed. The night cap with the two Mexican families capped off and locked in the gains which I been able to steer LH into achieving.
BEING EXTERIOR TO PROBLEMS VS BEING INTERIOR TO THEM - I am good at helping others find solutions to problems if I am exterior to their problems. I did a lot of this with my ex wife at one point around 6 months ago and more recently have done it with other people in my circle of friends.
When I am interior to a problem, I have virtually no ability to handle the problem without guidance from an outside source. If I try to do it analytically, I just spin in with a lot of figure-figure. I mentioned this to Purple Haze and she replied that there are methods to create more space between a person and his/her problems if the person is interior to the problem.
THIS IS AN INTRIGUING CONCEPT, MAKING A PROBLEM TO WHICH YOU ARE INTERIOR MORE SIMILAR TO A PROBLEM TO WHICH YOU ARE EXTERIOR BY INTRODUCING NEW SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR PROBLEM, THUS ENABLING YOU TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT ON YOUR OWN.
Lakey
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Hatshepsut
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SweetnessandLight
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SweetnessandLight
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And now for a nice Christmas story...
Some local cheer-spreading
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http://www.pe.com/columns/dianerhodes/stories/PE_News_Local_E_ediane23.3688125.html
Some local cheer-spreading
:http://www.pe.com/columns/dianerhodes/stories/PE_News_Local_E_ediane23.3688125.html
Hatshepsut
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Tracking down linked subject matter. ...because the last paragraph of the last article mentions this. I wasn't aware of the relationship between Rosicrucianism and earlier mystical thought. Extremely interesting to me.
http://www.esotericgoldendawn.com/rosicrucian_pastpresent.htm
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lkwdblds
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The language being sung is Czech, right?
Hats, such a beautiful language, "noc" for night, etc.! I went up to youtube and immediately discerned that Silent Night was being sung in Czech. I have pictures of being a Czech boy in my last life, living in the Sudetenland and being of the Jewish religion. My name (a nickname) was Mauvi or something similar. Does that name ring a bell with anyone? Googling the name reveals no such name as existing.
Lakey
Hats, such a beautiful language, "noc" for night, etc.! I went up to youtube and immediately discerned that Silent Night was being sung in Czech. I have pictures of being a Czech boy in my last life, living in the Sudetenland and being of the Jewish religion. My name (a nickname) was Mauvi or something similar. Does that name ring a bell with anyone? Googling the name reveals no such name as existing.
Lakey
RogerB
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Ya . . .
Elina has a beautiful mezzo voice . . . . though in my view it was misplaced doing that Mozart piece. She is perfect for Carmen, but strained a little too much in the upper register of Mozart.
Lakey, seems we are sticklers for the more familiar
I recently saw Patric Stewart doing Macbeth (live on stage at the Brooklyn Academy of Music--one of the fun things about this big city, and London, is you get so much of the best of performing arts).
Well bugger me! It was set in Russia in the aftermath the of the revolution! . . . . bloody ugly and pompous was the production . . . they practically deafened me with use of cannon shot!
For me, I'll stick with the "Birnam forest come to Dunsinane" version set in Scotland, witches and all
PS: if any of you want to see Patric S. doing it, it's on the internet here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...GL_en___US345&ie=UTF-8&aq=5&oq=patric+stewart
We also saw Christopher Plummer do King Lear a couple of years ago . . . that was stupendous! Absolutely brilliant.
Rog
lkwdblds
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Thanks for all the fill information!
Thank you Rog for all the interesting "gen". I believe the info you gave us was called "gen" by Scios in the 60's and 70's.
Los Angeles seems to be world class as far as putting on the best of the performing arts, maybe just a notch or two below London and New York (just guessing). I went with my former opera singer friend to the Walt Disney concert hall in downtown L.A. on December 16th. Pieces by Cherubini, Mozart and Haydn were performed, including Mozart's Piano Concerto #22 with the soloist being Robert Levin. Levin is a genius of sorts, making up his own cadenzas and ormanmental embellishments as he performs. Every performance he does of a piece is different from all his other performances of it.
I believe this was S.O.P. in the 18th and early 19th centuries. As a treat for the audience, he asked that at break time people write out little musical melodies on scrap paper and drop them into a box. He then declared that he would compose Mozart type cadenzas extemporaneously, using three of those melodies.
After intermission, he emptied the contents of the box and played each melody on the piano and took a vote from the audience as to whether it should be used. Three melodies were selected. He used a movement from Mozart's 22nd piano concerto and converted each of the three melodies into cadenza's for that movement. One of the melodies was the opening bars of Leroy Anderson's "Sleigh Ride". That melody and its rhythm were not readily compatible with the concerto movement he was working with but in the end, he made a fantastic cadenza using that melody. For me, it was a thrill to witness his abilities!!
Lakey
Ya . . .
Elina has a beautiful mezzo voice . . . . though in my view it was misplaced doing that Mozart piece. She is perfect for Carmen, but strained a little too much in the upper register of Mozart.
Lakey, seems we are sticklers for the more familiar
I recently saw Patric Stewart doing Macbeth (live on stage at the Brooklyn Academy of Music--one of the fun things about this big city, and London, is you get so much of the best of performing arts).
Well bugger me! It was set in Russia in the aftermath the of the revolution! . . . . bloody ugly and pompous was the production . . . they practically deafened me with use of cannon shot!
For me, I'll stick with the "Birnam forest come to Dunsinane" version set in Scotland, witches and all
PS: if any of you want to see Patric S. doing it, it's on the internet here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...GL_en___US345&ie=UTF-8&aq=5&oq=patric+stewart
We also saw Christopher Plummer do King Lear a couple of years ago . . . that was stupendous! Absolutely brilliant.
Rog
Thank you Rog for all the interesting "gen". I believe the info you gave us was called "gen" by Scios in the 60's and 70's.
Los Angeles seems to be world class as far as putting on the best of the performing arts, maybe just a notch or two below London and New York (just guessing). I went with my former opera singer friend to the Walt Disney concert hall in downtown L.A. on December 16th. Pieces by Cherubini, Mozart and Haydn were performed, including Mozart's Piano Concerto #22 with the soloist being Robert Levin. Levin is a genius of sorts, making up his own cadenzas and ormanmental embellishments as he performs. Every performance he does of a piece is different from all his other performances of it.
I believe this was S.O.P. in the 18th and early 19th centuries. As a treat for the audience, he asked that at break time people write out little musical melodies on scrap paper and drop them into a box. He then declared that he would compose Mozart type cadenzas extemporaneously, using three of those melodies.
After intermission, he emptied the contents of the box and played each melody on the piano and took a vote from the audience as to whether it should be used. Three melodies were selected. He used a movement from Mozart's 22nd piano concerto and converted each of the three melodies into cadenza's for that movement. One of the melodies was the opening bars of Leroy Anderson's "Sleigh Ride". That melody and its rhythm were not readily compatible with the concerto movement he was working with but in the end, he made a fantastic cadenza using that melody. For me, it was a thrill to witness his abilities!!
Lakey
purple haze
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quoting myself
waltzing in the New Year: out with the old, in with the new energy
let the stones fall where they lay: do not throw stones at your own glass house, folks: it may be the only home you really got: ain't free speech great?!
aloha and namaste, everyone!
check out Candy Swanson wall on Facebook to see more
PURPLE
waltzing in the New Year: out with the old, in with the new energy
let the stones fall where they lay: do not throw stones at your own glass house, folks: it may be the only home you really got: ain't free speech great?!
aloha and namaste, everyone!
check out Candy Swanson wall on Facebook to see more
PURPLE
CarmeloOrchards
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as part of my philosophy regarding the Apollo thread to post anything I'm interested in, here is the latest installment:
i like MP3 music played on my ipods and computers. I have over 50 gigs of music. i also have a shit load of movies and spoken words plus sports talk, NPR stuff. I like to be able to drive, walk, ski, compute or any other thing with a musical backdrop or a lively talk going on between my ears.
Amazon.com currently has "such a deal" (hear this with a Yiddish accent). There are over 1300 albums ranging from Sarah Silverman to Ricky Nelson, to Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire, Nat King cole, Buddy rich, Monk, Oscar Peterson, Beach Boys, Ziggy Marley, ZZ Top to 99 best recordings of Mozart and ditto that on Bach, Handel, Schuman, Vivaldi etc. EACH FOR $5. In other words a recording collection of the best of Ricky or of Mozart for $5 bucks. these are all downloadable.
If you own records or tapes, this might be a cheap and easy way of transitioning to the 21st century. i have thousands of records in my barn. I keep thinking I'll hook up a turntable and record them onto my computer, but I don't.
i like MP3 music played on my ipods and computers. I have over 50 gigs of music. i also have a shit load of movies and spoken words plus sports talk, NPR stuff. I like to be able to drive, walk, ski, compute or any other thing with a musical backdrop or a lively talk going on between my ears.
Amazon.com currently has "such a deal" (hear this with a Yiddish accent). There are over 1300 albums ranging from Sarah Silverman to Ricky Nelson, to Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire, Nat King cole, Buddy rich, Monk, Oscar Peterson, Beach Boys, Ziggy Marley, ZZ Top to 99 best recordings of Mozart and ditto that on Bach, Handel, Schuman, Vivaldi etc. EACH FOR $5. In other words a recording collection of the best of Ricky or of Mozart for $5 bucks. these are all downloadable.
If you own records or tapes, this might be a cheap and easy way of transitioning to the 21st century. i have thousands of records in my barn. I keep thinking I'll hook up a turntable and record them onto my computer, but I don't.
lkwdblds
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Very informative post!
Thanks Carmelo, this is very informative. Talking about moving into the 21st century, the cut off age for making a rapid transition seems to occur with the baby boomers, born from 1946 on. Those of us who were born before the Baby Boomers generation started seem to have more aversion or resistance to being "tech savy". I wonder why that is.
Perhaps it revolves around WWII. To be born in the late 40's, many baby boomers were involved in WWII as either soldiers or civilians and were killed in that war. When they came back, they wanted to overhaul the political, religious and educational structures that led to both WWI and WWII. WWII was a time of very rapid technical development. Radar came into its own (thus saving England) as did jet aircraft, rockets, methods of delivering bombs accurately, heat seeking missiles, etc., etc. Baby boomers were probably impressed by the technical developments of the war and as a group decided that it behooved them, as a survival point, to master new tech as it came out.
I was born 6 years before that, just 3 months after WWII started. Those of us from my generation were not exposed to rapid tech development during our past lifetimes, nor were we prone to want to change the governmental, political and educational systems. Tech started moving ahead in the 50's and 60's but accelerated in development once the space program got underway and picked up steam.
People my age, did not jump on the bandwagon but the kids born after WWII seemed to easily become tech savy while they were little kids. It was not uncommon to have a family where a 6 year old kid knew much more about how to run the family's computer (using MS DOS) than his family did.
When I purchase a new tech apparatus, it is extremely hard for me to read the user's manual and learn to operate it. For example, with my cell phone, I just use it as a phone and nothing else. I don't text or go online with it or use it as a GPS, etc. When I read the user manuals, I find most of them extremely incomprehensible. They use terms and make assumptions which I am not familiar with and I am incapable of learning from them.
Most young people, such as my Son or Daughter don't bother to read the manuals at all and just start fiddling with the apparatus and pick it up intuitively.
Perhaps your post will spur me to change my ways, Carmelo. Music is so important to me that I could actually be inspired to try to master the knowledge necessary to gain the benefits of having so much great music so readily accessible.
Lakey
Thanks Carmelo, this is very informative. Talking about moving into the 21st century, the cut off age for making a rapid transition seems to occur with the baby boomers, born from 1946 on. Those of us who were born before the Baby Boomers generation started seem to have more aversion or resistance to being "tech savy". I wonder why that is.
Perhaps it revolves around WWII. To be born in the late 40's, many baby boomers were involved in WWII as either soldiers or civilians and were killed in that war. When they came back, they wanted to overhaul the political, religious and educational structures that led to both WWI and WWII. WWII was a time of very rapid technical development. Radar came into its own (thus saving England) as did jet aircraft, rockets, methods of delivering bombs accurately, heat seeking missiles, etc., etc. Baby boomers were probably impressed by the technical developments of the war and as a group decided that it behooved them, as a survival point, to master new tech as it came out.
I was born 6 years before that, just 3 months after WWII started. Those of us from my generation were not exposed to rapid tech development during our past lifetimes, nor were we prone to want to change the governmental, political and educational systems. Tech started moving ahead in the 50's and 60's but accelerated in development once the space program got underway and picked up steam.
People my age, did not jump on the bandwagon but the kids born after WWII seemed to easily become tech savy while they were little kids. It was not uncommon to have a family where a 6 year old kid knew much more about how to run the family's computer (using MS DOS) than his family did.
When I purchase a new tech apparatus, it is extremely hard for me to read the user's manual and learn to operate it. For example, with my cell phone, I just use it as a phone and nothing else. I don't text or go online with it or use it as a GPS, etc. When I read the user manuals, I find most of them extremely incomprehensible. They use terms and make assumptions which I am not familiar with and I am incapable of learning from them.
Most young people, such as my Son or Daughter don't bother to read the manuals at all and just start fiddling with the apparatus and pick it up intuitively.
Perhaps your post will spur me to change my ways, Carmelo. Music is so important to me that I could actually be inspired to try to master the knowledge necessary to gain the benefits of having so much great music so readily accessible.
Lakey
CarmeloOrchards
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Lakey,
I don't know anyone who reads the manuals either. There are some tech writers on this thread, so my apologies to them.
my advice: (this is the low gradient) go to Costco or your local Apple store and buy an ipod. You don't (yet) need one that does videos, audio is enough.
Go on line to apple.com and download "itunes" to your computer
Go to Amazon and buy the Mozart album of 99 Mozart "hits" (my word, not theirs) for $5. It will help you to set up the Amazon downloader and that will download the 99 music tracks to your itunes folder.
after you have that, you can plug your ipod in and have it sync with itunes. you will then be able to carry all that music around with you in a piece of equipment no bigger than a postage stamp.
To be redundant, I have over a thousand record albums in my barn. I have about 30 days of music on my computer for me to play at the drop of a hat. All of it, I can shift, at my whim, to an ipod.
For 15 years or more, I haven't gone skiing without some ear buds in my ears and music in my head, as I fly down the hills. It is like a movie soundtrack for your life.
EP - Ethics Particle
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An idea!
Have either of you sallied forth with a mallard on yer head!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQeXDsaiTJE
:confused2: EP
Have either of you sallied forth with a mallard on yer head!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQeXDsaiTJE
:confused2: EP
lkwdblds
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Reply to Carmelo and EP
Carmelo - I am going to do exactly as you say and get set up with an IPOD from Costco. Thanks for opening up this new vista of music to me.
EP - Thanks for posting the very amusing Papageno - Papagena duet from the Magic Flute.
This tune opens almost identically to the Rivington's Rock and Roll hit of the late 60's, Papa Oom Mow Mow. Check out the similarities. For about the first 5 seconds, the two songs are virtually identical and both songs are about birds.
BTW, Franz Gerl's young wife, 21 year old Barbara Reisinger Gerl sang the role of Papagena on the opening night of the Magic Flute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrQjNNZCAo
The Rivingtons singing Papa Oom Mow Mow
Lakey
Have either of you sallied forth with a mallard on yer head!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQeXDsaiTJE
:confused2: EP
Carmelo - I am going to do exactly as you say and get set up with an IPOD from Costco. Thanks for opening up this new vista of music to me.
EP - Thanks for posting the very amusing Papageno - Papagena duet from the Magic Flute.
This tune opens almost identically to the Rivington's Rock and Roll hit of the late 60's, Papa Oom Mow Mow. Check out the similarities. For about the first 5 seconds, the two songs are virtually identical and both songs are about birds.
BTW, Franz Gerl's young wife, 21 year old Barbara Reisinger Gerl sang the role of Papagena on the opening night of the Magic Flute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrQjNNZCAo
The Rivingtons singing Papa Oom Mow Mow
Lakey
lkwdblds
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Lakey
Mark A. Baker
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To the continual harassment and resulting despair of tech professionals everywhere.
RTFM!
Mark A. Baker
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Have either of you sallied forth with a mallard on yer head!
:confused2: EP
I'll see your mallard and raise you two songbirds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSotSn1TzE
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