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Hatshepsut

Crusader
All the great men are dead.

Barry Goldwater is dead.
William F. Buckley, Jr. is dead.
Ronald Reagan is dead.

I am not feeling so well, myself
.[/B

"All great men are dead and I am not feeling to well myself."
— Mark Twain

Hey, that was my man Mark Twain what said that! :happydance:

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Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Hey, that was my man Mark Twain

Only marginally related, but, the quote restimulated me :)

Here's one of my favorite Dylan bits (liner notes from 'Bringing It All Back Home'):

i'm standing there watching the parade/
feeling combination of sleepy john estes.
jayne mansfield. humphry bogart/morti-
mer snerd. murph the surf and so forth/
erotic hitchhiker wearing japanese
blanket. gets my attention by asking didn't
he see me at this hootenanny down in
puerto vallarta, mexico/i say no you must
be mistaken. i happen to be one of the
Supremes/then he rips off his blanket
an' suddenly becomes a middle-aged druggist.
up for district attorney. he starts scream-
ing at me you're the one. you're the one
that's been causing all them riots over in
vietnam. immediately turns t' a bunch of
people an' says if elected, he'll have me
electrocuted publicly on the next fourth
of july. i look around an' all these people
he's talking to are carrying blowtorches/
needless t' say, i split fast go back t' the
nice quiet country. am standing there writing
WHAAT? on my favorite wall when who should
pass by in a jet plane but my recording
engineer "i'm here t' pick up you and your
lastest works of art. do you need any help
with anything?''

(pause)

my songs're written with the kettledrum
in mind/a touch of any anxious color. un-
mentionable. obvious. an' people perhaps
like a soft brazilian singer . . . i have
given up at making any attempt at perfection/
the fact that the white house is filled with
leaders that've never been t' the apollo
theater amazes me. why allen ginsberg was
not chosen t' read poetry at the inauguration
boggles my mind/if someone thinks norman
mailer is more important than hank williams
that's fine. i have no arguments an' i
never drink milk. i would rather model har-
monica holders than discuss aztec anthropology/
english literature. or history of the united
nations. i accept chaos. I am not sure whether
it accepts me. i know there're some people terrified
of the bomb. but there are other people terrified
t' be seen carrying a modern screen magazine.
experience teaches that silence terrifies people
the most . . . i am convinced that all souls have
some superior t' deal with/like the school
system, an invisible circle of which no one
can think without consulting someone/in the
face of this, responsibility/security, success
mean absolutely nothing. . . i would not want
t' be bach. mozart. tolstoy. joe hill. gertrude
stein or james dean/they are all dead. the
Great books've been written. the Great sayings
have all been said/I am about t' sketch You
a picture of what goes on around here some-
times. though I don't understand too well
myself what's really happening. i do know
that we're all gonna die someday an' that no
death has ever stopped the world. my poems
are written in a rhythm of unpoetic distortion/
divided by pierced ears. false eyelashes/sub-
tracted by people constantly torturing each
other. with a melodic purring line of descriptive
hollowness -- seen at times through dark sunglasses
an' other forms of psychic explosion. a song is
anything that can walk by itself/i am called
a songwriter. a poem is a naked person . . . some
people say that i am a poet

(end of pause)

an' so i answer my recording engineer
"yes. well i could use some help in getting
this wall in the plane"

-- By Bob Dylan


Zinj
 
American farmers have long depended on immigrant labor. But some farmers say a steady supply of legal immigrants has become too unreliable. So they’re moving to where many of the workers come from: Mexico.

Steve Scaroni has been growing lettuce in Arizona and California for 30 years. Four years ago, he started to expand to the central Mexican state of Guanajuato. Today, half of his operation is south of the border.

view the video:

http://www.theworld.org/2010/12/23/an-american-farmer-in-mexico/


Going to work with Scaroni is like spending a day with a super-caffeinated Wall Street trader: He yells, he bargains, he complains, he compliments. His office is his truck. He uses two cellphones, a hand radio, a walkie talkie, and an iPad for his e-mails. He’s on one or two, even three devices at any given time, almost all the time, as he sells his lettuce and broccoli.


I spent two full days with Scaroni, from morning until night, to get a full sense of his operation. It’s massive. There’s a good chance the lettuce you eat for lunch or dinner was touched by Scaroni’s workers in the U.S. or Mexico. His operation plants, harvests and processes 20 million servings each week. Much of his lettuce ends up in bags on the shelves of U.S. supermarkets.

“Between 50 and 75 trucks a week goes out of here to the United States,” said Scaroni as he showed me his freezer operation. Huge bags of lettuce are sealed airtight and injected with liquid nitrogen for the long ride north.

It’s a long way to haul lettuce, but there are clear advantages to working in Mexico. If there’s bad weather in Arizona or California, Scaroni has a back-up crop. Also, in the United States, Scaroni says he pays field workers $9 to $10 an hour. In Mexico, he pays $12 to $15 a day.

Scaroni said he pays above the going wage. And he insists that he didn’t move to Mexico just to save money on labor. He says when you factor in added transportation costs, Mexican taxes, and the hassles and costs of getting things like fertilizer on time in a foreign country… He said it’s been a four-year headache and his Mexico operation still isn’t profitable.

“I’m doing all this, I’m sleeping in a foreign country a lot of times away from my family because of the lack of a coherent immigration policy in the United States,” said Scaroni. “I brought all this equipment to the United States. I have hundreds of thousands of dollars in just import costs to bring all my equipment down here. Why? Because I don’t have enough legal labor in the United States. We’re in a labor shortage crisis for legal immigrants.”

That’s the key word: Legal. Scaroni has a point.

“You might say around half of all farm workers are probably undocumented most of them are Mexicans, and others are Salvadorans, and Hondurans, quite a few Guatemalans,” said agricultural economist Rick Mines. He designed the survey that the Department of Labor uses to estimate how many farm workers in the United States are documented vs. undocumented.


American farmers are required to check the paperwork of everyone they hire. The open secret is that many field workers use phony documents. Most large agribusiness operations hire workers through a contractor, or a middleman, so the farm is insulated from the hiring process. This look-the-other-way policy works for most big farmers. American farmers also aren’t allowed to investigate the validity of a document.

But American farms that rely on illegal workers risk being temporarily shut down by raids or administrative enforcement. For Steve Scaroni, the hassles were enough to drive him south of the border.

For many farmers, though, Mexico isn’t an option. Rick Mines said, “Most of the major crops – grapes, tomatoes, cucumbers, sweet peppers and peppers – are very sensitive to local growing conditions and to proximity to market, and so, these products are not that easy to shift.”

The numbers are murky as to just how many American farmers are shifting work to Mexico. Most farmers don’t want to talk about it. The California and Arizona organization Western Growers asked its 3,000 members in 2008 if they’re growing crops in Mexico; only 25 members responded. Of those that did respond, they reported that they’re hiring 22,285 people on farms in Mexico.

Steve Scaroni said he’s speaking out because he’s fed up with the system. He supports an immigration bill called “AgJOBS.”

The legislation was a compromise between growers and labor after some 15 years of negotiations. AgJOBS would give farm workers more rights and provide a path to legal status. The bill would also make it easier for American farmers to bring in temporary immigrant workers.

Many Republicans in Congress are lining up against it calling it an amnesty for lawbreakers. This puts Scaroni at a boil.

Now I’m a conservative, (but) I don’t consider myself a Republican anymore because I think the Republican party is as big a part of the problem as the Democrats are, and especially on this immigration thing,” said Scaroni. “All they (Republicans in Congress) do is block everything that tries to get passed. They never come up with a solution. So yes, I hold the Republican party responsible for why I had to move to Mexico to complete my American dream.”

There is an alternative to moving to Mexico or importing immigrant farm labor: Hire Americans. California’s official unemployment rate is more than 12 percent. Despite that, Kent Wong, director of UCLA’s Center for Labor Research and Education, said Americans still don’t want jobs in the field.

“There is no indication that if someone is laid off from a job in Los Angeles, in San Francisco, that they would pack up their family and move to the Central Valley to pick grapes. There’s never been an example or tradition of that occurring,” said Wong.

Wong adds that most Americans don’t want to pick fruits and vegetables because it’s hard, seasonal work that only pays around $8 an hour.

Steve Scaroni argues that he can’t pay much more than that in the U.S. And he said he can’t pay higher wages in Mexico either.


“We live in an international environment now,” said Scaroni “They produce broccoli in China. They produce it in Guatemala, in Mexico. I mean, if we do produce it in the United States, we have to be able to produce it cost effectively. Or Mexico or Guatemala will knock us out of the marketplace. Because, like I said, at the end of the day the American consumer wants it cheap, clean, and perfect.”

That may be true, but farm worker advocates argue that American growers paid low wages in the U.S. long before there was global competition.

As another year closes without immigration reform, American farmers remain in a bind. But the biggest losers appear to be the workers in the fields, doing back-breaking work for low wages, with little protection.
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Hats,

Go to the New York Times website and look up last Sunday's Book Review section . . . your man MT is written up for two pages.

R

OK Roger. I have seen the reviews of the Autobiography. I read a few parts of it. This presentation of Twain's notes left behind seems a bit dry. I was looking forward to some wit. I guess with the master himself unable to breath his legendary humor into the pieces it can seem a little dry. Maybe I need to finish reading. I got a kindle app for my laptop and an amazon account. You know you save like 80% on books that way! Ho ho ho.

Hat
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Only marginally related, but, the quote restimulated me :)

Here's one of my favorite Dylan bits (liner notes from 'Bringing It All Back Home'):

i'm standing there watching the parade/
feeling combination of sleepy john estes.
jayne mansfield. humphry bogart/morti-
mer snerd. murph the surf and so forth/
erotic hitchhiker wearing japanese
blanket. gets my attention by asking didn't
he see me at this hootenanny down in
puerto vallarta, mexico/i say no you must
be mistaken. i happen to be one of the
Supremes/then he rips off his blanket
an' suddenly becomes a middle-aged druggist.
up for district attorney. he starts scream-
ing at me you're the one. you're the one
that's been causing all them riots over in
vietnam. immediately turns t' a bunch of
people an' says if elected, he'll have me
electrocuted publicly on the next fourth
of july. i look around an' all these people
he's talking to are carrying blowtorches/
needless t' say, i split fast go back t' the
nice quiet country. am standing there writing
WHAAT? on my favorite wall when who should
pass by in a jet plane but my recording
engineer "i'm here t' pick up you and your
lastest works of art. do you need any help
with anything?''

(pause)

my songs're written with the kettledrum
in mind/a touch of any anxious color. un-
mentionable. obvious. an' people perhaps
like a soft brazilian singer . . . i have
given up at making any attempt at perfection/
the fact that the white house is filled with
leaders that've never been t' the apollo
theater amazes me. why allen ginsberg was
not chosen t' read poetry at the inauguration
boggles my mind/if someone thinks norman
mailer is more important than hank williams
that's fine. i have no arguments an' i
never drink milk. i would rather model har-
monica holders than discuss aztec anthropology/
english literature. or history of the united
nations. i accept chaos. I am not sure whether
it accepts me. i know there're some people terrified
of the bomb. but there are other people terrified
t' be seen carrying a modern screen magazine.
experience teaches that silence terrifies people
the most . . . i am convinced that all souls have
some superior t' deal with/like the school
system, an invisible circle of which no one
can think without consulting someone/in the
face of this, responsibility/security, success
mean absolutely nothing. . . i would not want
t' be bach. mozart. tolstoy. joe hill. gertrude
stein or james dean/they are all dead. the
Great books've been written. the Great sayings
have all been said/I am about t' sketch You
a picture of what goes on around here some-
times. though I don't understand too well
myself what's really happening. i do know
that we're all gonna die someday an' that no
death has ever stopped the world. my poems
are written in a rhythm of unpoetic distortion/
divided by pierced ears. false eyelashes/sub-
tracted by people constantly torturing each
other. with a melodic purring line of descriptive
hollowness -- seen at times through dark sunglasses
an' other forms of psychic explosion. a song is
anything that can walk by itself/i am called
a songwriter. a poem is a naked person . . . some
people say that i am a poet

(end of pause)

an' so i answer my recording engineer
"yes. well i could use some help in getting
this wall in the plane"

-- By Bob Dylan


Zinj

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Oy. Reminds me of this I used to know by heart. Subteranean Homesick Blues
(I didn't end up being a big Dylan fan after it all though)

Subterranean Homesick Blues
Johnny’s in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
I’m on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he’s got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It’s somethin’ you did
God knows when
But you’re doin’ it again
You better duck down the alley way
Lookin’ for a new friend
The man in the coon-skin cap
By the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten

Maggie comes fleet foot
Face full of black soot
Talkin’ that the heat put
Plants in the bed but
The phone’s tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the D.A.
Look out kid
Don’t matter what you did
Walk on your tiptoes
Don’t try “No-Doz”
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don’t need a weatherman
To know which way the wind blows

Get sick, get well
Hang around a ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin’ to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write braille
Get jailed, jump bail
Join the army, if you fail
Look out kid
You’re gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin’ for a new fool
Don’t follow leaders
Watch the parkin’ meters

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don’t steal, don’t lift
Twenty years of schoolin’
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don’t wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don’t wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don’t work
’Cause the vandals took the handles

Copyright © 1965 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1993 by Special Rider Music
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Getting sessions from Purple Haze

A friend of mine and myself both did Life Self Assessments with Purple Haze called PCA's. These are similar to OCA's. Our graphs were plotted on a plot similar to an OCA plot. Strengths and weaknesses of our personalities were noted and discussed.

My friend Ed whom I have knows off and on since 1975 is the guy who I learned shiatsu massage from. He is a licensed Physical Therapist and Masseuse and used to work under contract for the Jack LaLanne system of gyms which went out of business in 1987. Ed had no formal background whatever in Scientology but did know a little about it from what I had told him in the 70's and 80's and he had read the Dianetics book.

THE PCA TEST WHEN ADMINISTERED AND PLOTTED CORRECTLY

Ed, who had no auditing and I, who had audited almost the whole "bridge", both had big wins from doing the Life Self Assessment. For Ed, just taking the PCA produced significant case gain. When he reviewed the results with Purple [using Purple's Teamwork Style session], he had major new awarenesses and pretty much blew out of his head. His changes were so profound that his wife and Son both noticed changes in him his first night home after his free analysis session and wanted to know what had happened to him.

With me, I am not at liberty to discuss my case while I am receiving auditing but I can mention a few generalities. Both our sessions were monitored. I have not been formally audited since 1992 at FLAG and 1993 at AOLA but I was floating regularly. I would pull in mass and then blow it while discussing it with Purple [again using a Teamwork style of session].

GOING OVER THE BASICS

Purple focussed on the Basics. For about 10 years, I have been taking a group of heart medication pills daily. I do this pretty religiously but I do not follow the program to a "T" as prescribed by my doctor. For instance, some pills are prescribed for the morning and some for the evening and some are supposed to be split in two, taking a half a pill twice a day. I just take everything en masse in the evening before going to bed. Also, I had just ran out of two of the pills and had missed taking them yesterday.

Purple would not let me start session until I took responsibility for getting my medications, as ordered by my doctor. up to date. Purple is a stickler for heading in the right direction regarding admin. The importance of accurate basics and admin cannot be expressed strongly enough in her approach to teamwork. When everything was ssatisfactory, a two hour session ensued just covering definitions and basic principles and making sure I had all my basics in as to how they appllied to real life.

Needless to say, in that two hours, I had gains from looking at the materials together. It was a lot of fun clearing basic principles with her. Even more important, I was floating. I came out of that session feeling very happy and clean after the previous day and night of excruciatingly painful Yenta style of confronting real life issues.!

Lakey
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
Thank you very much Hats!

View over Salzburg (thinking of you Gary)

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Salzburg in Winter

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Christmas in Austria

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Thank you very much for posting this Hats, it is very touching. In this life, I have made only 1 trip to Salzburg, way back in 1967. It is such a beautiful city!! In the summer of 2009. I visited Karl in Vienna and he drove me 200 miles to Andorf to see the birthplace of FX Gerl (who I think I was). Andorf is near Insbruck, Austria's second largest city. We toyed with driving to Salzburg, another 100 miles or so and decided against it.

I remember the 1967 trip well. The movie, Sound of Music, filmed in the Salzburg arrea was a recent big hit and Salzburg was a tourist destination for many people who loved that movie. I went in the summer so there was no snow but I did take the cable car ride, which you picture, up to the top of a large mountain. Up there they served us warm pea soup, and little pieces of bread, (brotchen). This meal is a real German and Austrian staple, delicious and warm and pretty nutritious and filling while the cost is tiny. Sometimes, slices of meat (wurst) are added to the meal for a bit more money.

The view from the mountain top was spectacular!!! We could see over into Germany, 50 miles away, and see Berchtesgaden, where Hitler's mountain retreat was situated. Salzburg is just a beautiful city of about 250,000. It is set up more for couples than singles. When I went in '67, I started out with my brother but had an argument and split up. I was there alone in a city meant for romance and couples. Even so, I had a great time, visiting all the Mozart landmarks and attending several concerts. Like Paris or Prague but on a smaller scale, every building, every corner is a work of art with tremendous ambiance and a fantastic view.

Mozart outgrew Salzburg in his early 20's. It was too small then, maybe 50,000 and did not afford the opportunities and contacts which he needed to further his career. It was like a talented kid born in Peoria, say a Jack Benny, the comedian, when his career took off, he took off for greener pastures, ending up in Southern California. Mozart ended up in Vienna. Gerl ended up there as well. After having studied composition with Mozart's dad as a teen ager, he landed in Vienna as a bass singer and composer of aria's for musical comedies in 1789. in time to share 1789. 1790 amd 1791 with Mozart and renew their earlier acquaintance until Mozart's untimely death in Dec. of 1791 at age 35.

Thanks again Hats and Merry Christmas (or whatever else you may celebrate)!
Gary
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
I just don't get it how you guys associate Christmas with the middle of winter. Chrismas is a mid-summer event. Lots of hot dry weather, days on the beach, extroversion, fresh fruit everywhere, flowers in bloom, outdoor sports, barbecues, fun in the sun, etc etc etc.

All this snow and winter is a time for being indoors.


Anyway, have a happy one. And for Lakey and others:


Happy christmas to you. . . .

Even though you're a Jew . . . .

Get lots of presents

and thank Christ you do ! ! !

!:party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party:
 

RogerB

Crusader
I just don't get it how you guys associate Christmas with the middle of winter. Chrismas is a mid-summer event. Lots of hot dry weather, days on the beach, extroversion, fresh fruit everywhere, flowers in bloom, outdoor sports, barbecues, fun in the sun, etc etc etc.

All this snow and winter is a time for being indoors.


Anyway, have a happy one. And for Lakey and others:


Happy christmas to you. . . .

Even though you're a Jew . . . .

Get lots of presents

and thank Christ you do ! ! !

!:party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party::party:

Nice, Leon . . . .

My fondest memories of Xmas are in the sun also! Indeed Xmas Day I used to do swim races to win the Xmas pudding for Xmas dinner/lunch.

Then after too many years of sweating over an oven to do Xmas dinner in the hot Oz summer (no air-conditioning in those days) my mother got the bright idea to give up on that lark and to instead do cold salads . . . we all agreed too bloody hot for roast lamb when it's 95 degrees F in the shade :duh:

So Leon, basically, I think our "upside down" view of the world is the correct one! That and getting an extra day off with Boxing Day:yes:

R
 
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