What's new

Miscavige de Sade

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
SeaOrg-1.png


A morbid curiosity prompts me to wonder what acts of bravery & valor those flashy MEDALS were awarded for?

Oh, wait! I think I recognize one of them...

NAME OF MEDAL: Battlefield Valor.

AWARDED FOR: Uncommon bravery in the face of danger.

INCIDENT: Administered "Battlefield Assist" on unconscious person.

DETAILS: Selfishly rushed to the aid of a fallen comrade just in time to avoid tragedy. After the victim unethically began bleeding and went unconscious after doing "drills" with COB, they were awakened by repeated face slapping and tone 40 screaming the command repetetively: "WAKE UP YOU COCKSUCKING D.B. BEFORE THE FUCKING POLICE GET HERE!!"

OUTCOME: Tragedy was narrowly avoided when the Golden Era makeup crew quickly covered the obvious lacerations and facial hematomas and the police didn't notice.

 

Sindy

Crusader
A morbid curiosity prompts me to wonder what acts of bravery & valor those flashy MEDALS were awarded for?

Oh, wait! I think I recognize one of them...

NAME OF MEDAL: Battlefield Valor.

AWARDED FOR: Uncommon bravery in the face of danger.

INCIDENT: Administered "Battlefield Assist" on unconscious person.

DETAILS: Selfishly rushed to the aid of a fallen comrade just in time to avoid tragedy. After the victim unethically began bleeding and went unconscious after doing "drills" with COB, they were awakened by repeated face slapping and tone 40 screaming the command repetetively: "WAKE UP YOU COCKSUCKING D.B. BEFORE THE FUCKING POLICE GET HERE!!"

OUTCOME: Tragedy was narrowly avoided when the Golden Era makeup crew quickly covered the obvious lacerations and facial hematomas and the police didn't notice.


:melodramatic: Oh my god! Could this farce of a religion get any worse? :faceslap:
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
:melodramatic: Oh my god! Could this farce of a religion get any worse? :faceslap:

Yes.

People can be harangued to hell for a half-million to have the holy humanitarian honor of being hoaxed by hubbard.

And then, on their own determinism, write a success story.
 
Last edited:

dianaclass8

Silver Meritorious Patron
According to the interviews at the below link the RPF is a wonderful experience.

http://www.cesnur.org/2002/scient_rpf_04.htm

from Scientology Myths 2.0
http://www.scientologymyths.info/rehabilitation-project-force/

"I regained my personal integrity and respect of self, as well as respect for others.

My respect for myself and others and my understanding as a spiritual being have greatly increased."

"The miracle of the effectiveness of Scientology. I am more of a Scientologist than ever before."

Yes, according to the creator of the RPF, Ken Urquhart, now a freezone auditor, he said it helped a lot of people too and he has no remorse for coming up with the idea of the RPF. I guess eating the leftovers and not talking to anyone is a form of valid 'therapy'...yeah right!

Diana
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Yes, according to the creator of the RPF, Ken Urquhart, now a freezone auditor, he said it helped a lot of people too and he has no remorse for coming up with the idea of the RPF. I guess eating the leftovers and not talking to anyone is a form of valid 'therapy'...yeah right!

Diana

Im not by any means saying it is a good experience, i just found the link and thought i would post it.


I think the concept is good, but not how it is currently carried out.
I think it also depends where and who is running it.
If you have the intention to punish then its a dead duck from the start.
You can either build someone up or break them.
 

dianaclass8

Silver Meritorious Patron
Im not by any means saying it is a good experience, i just found the link and thought i would post it.


I think the concept is good, but not how it is currently carried out.
I think it also depends where and who is running it.
If you have the intention to punish then its a dead duck from the start.
You can either build someone up or break them.

How can a concept be good when it is cutting people's right to communicate or eat like a human being. What dignity? Per Ken Urquhart orders they took the dignity away from the beginning by treating staff like criminals or animals.

Diana
 

FoTi

Crusader
Im not by any means saying it is a good experience, i just found the link and thought i would post it.


I think the concept is good, but not how it is currently carried out.
I think it also depends where and who is running it.
If you have the intention to punish then its a dead duck from the start.
You can either build someone up or break them.

You think the concept is good??? :omg: That's friggin' evil. :nervous:
 

FoTi

Crusader
Karen, thanks so much for all your posts on this thread. Great information! :thumbsup:

I hope it all gets used well.
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
You think the concept is good??? :omg: That's friggin' evil. :nervous:

I guess that comes down to what you consider the concept is FoTi.

My concept is if someone is having difficulty to build them back up.
Not the current form of breaking them.
 

FlunkYou

Patron with Honors
The numbers seem a little inflated, but nevertheless, that's a lot of MEST.
I don't know how or why someone hasn't sent that dwarf up yet. Video him smacking around some poor staff member or at least had the stones to fight back. What, he's like 5'4" with heels on? I know there's a sheep like mentality that goes on in these places, but surely someone's threshold for BS has been reached and should be acted on.
 

Karen#1

Gold Meritorious Patron
SP Hole Conduct exported to outer Orgs

Some High rollers, Top Opinion Leaders in Seattle Washington, donated, donated, donated ......and were treated as below.

The INT BASE conduct of savagery and thuggery, threatening, abusing each other has trickled down to like a spreading virus to every "Church" entity.

This kind of abuse happens in Australia, happens in the UK, happens in Mexico, happens in Denmark and God knows where else.

I shake my head in disbelief each time I read one of these ~~ How can any entity/business/"church" vampire suction out huge donations, rape the finances of the donor ~~ and then batter the donor with drachonian abuse ? ~~ it defies logic. It defies everything you understand in the word "Religion"


Here's the Public resignation ~~
FROM Bert Schippers and Lynne Hoverson


Over the years we put off getting new cars and beautiful houses, instead donating our way to the levels of Patron Meritorious in the IAS, Double Cornerstone in the Super Power Project and Triple Humanitarian for the Seattle Ideal Org. We helped CCHR Seattle survive for decades, we worked as Volunteer Ministers and in various other church activities. We were told repeatedly that we were wonderful “Opinion Leaders,” especially during efforts to get more donations from us, but we were shunned instantly when we refused to toe the line!

You may wonder why we donated so much, may even think we were crazy to do so. Did we do it for the “statuses?” Absolutely not! Our purpose in donating was to HELP. We really thought that we were helping others, helping those less fortunate, helping protect freedoms. It made all the personal sacrifices less significant. Imagine the betrayal we felt after coming to see the fraud and human rights abuses so rampant in virtually everything involving the church!

What did we experience that brought us to the point of making this open declaration?

* Finding out that Lynne’s son in the Sea Org would no longer be allowed to have children, and having to turn a blind eye to the fact that this was a direct violation of what LRH said about balancing the dynamics.
* Being made to feel guilty about doing anything in life but what was “approved” by the church.
* Forced disconnection from Lynne’s non-Scientologist daughter in 2001 until we saw the truth in 2009.
* Inquisition-like ethics cycles at Flag with two MAAs reading the meter, baiting and badgering and then threatening expulsion for being upset with an MAA.
* Completely botched Clear cycle for Lynne’s daughter, costing tens of thousands of dollars and many years of upset, with literally zero actual care, handling, or results from CC, Flag and AOLA.
* The death of a dedicated staff member resulting in her being denigrated for abandoning her post and “pulling it in.” This person was one of the most helpful, gracious people who’d ever been on staff and everyone in the area loved her. The attitude that when something bad happens to you, it means you are a bad person, was drilled in over many years.
* Experiencing the difference in Auditing before and after the “golden age of tech” and the redefinition of an F/N; generally the difference between “win” and “no-win.” (Though as LRH says, some wins came through from the actual tech, despite the alterations.)
* SP declares on Lynne’s son and his wife for blowing the SO despite going back and completing a proper routing out cycle, leading to years of disconnection and more tens of thousands in dollars of expense in “handling.”
* Non-stop “Crush Regging” for Money.
* Lynne being treated by the Flag Rep as if she were a piece of property to be commandeered and shipped to Flag like freight.
* An OT Eligibility cycle from HELL for Bert.
* The Basics insanity – financial irregularities with the way our accounts were handled in order to “sell” Basics (we ended up with 10 sets in our basement.)
* After donating $300,000 to the Seattle Ideal Org, we were treated like enemies because we are friends with Tony & Marie-Joe Dephillips – resulting in being denied entrance to the Grand Opening. (See attachment of communication exchange that took place)
* In spite of the promise, in writing, that anyone who donated $5000 or more to the Seattle Ideal Org would have their names on a memorial plaque, our names were deliberately omitted! (See photo attachment.)
* Having all our Scientologist employees quit, including Lynne’s son and his wife, and Scientologist customers stop doing business with our company, because we would not fire Lynne’s daughter for speaking out.
* Being essentially “disconnected from” by Lynne’s son and his wife because we woke up.


Resignation of hereby announce that we no longer support, and are no longer part of, the squirrel organization called the Church of Scientology.

Bert Schippers and Lynne Hoverson
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
thanks for posting..

Thats fucked up.

The f#ckin road to happiness, who wants a CofS world.

where one minute your the hero, step out of line your an enemy..

What a madman, what a mad "church", spiritual happiness.

Destruction, how long before its "ARC" devours itself.
 
Last edited:
wow

Wow Karen, that is crazy, thanks for the post! I am so happy that I am out! The irony is that as a new business owner I have had a lot of debt, but I am on my way to success and I am SO HAPPY that I am out before I become successful and have money!

I'm new to the board, I'll post my story soon. I haven't been in for too long and didn't spend a ton but I was about to give my life to the SO after selling my biz! I am so happy about this message board because this helped me so much to wake up and get out of the insane asylum! Everyone, I read your posts and I am so glad that you take your time to expose the abuses! Thanks ESMB! :hattip:
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Scientology Zero-The dangerous environment.any process in the hands of confused ,scared or aggressive personality is one process too many.
Description,One can turn the tables on the Merchants of Chaos, for the very avidity with which they “sell” a dangerous environment.
"SPs" , guilt , fear, intimidation, financial bankruptcy in the name of a good cause..freeing everyone else at the expense of the helper when you say no, you are now an SP who needs to do amends, and are shunned.
Process.
Look around the church and find someone who wasnt hostile towards you today.
and count up how many were hostile.do ratio.
and extend it to WHAT is truly hostile.
and what moral codes have you had forced upon your reality.
what communication has been broken..

Leave the dangerous environment.
 

anondelmundial

Patron with Honors
I'm not by any means saying it is a good experience, i just found the link and thought i would post it.

I think the concept is good, but not how it is currently carried out.

You think that the concept of imprisonment, with no recourse, no matter if it is kind and gentle, is a GOOD CONCEPT?

I think it also depends where and who is running it.

So, how does the RPF "candidate" get to choose where the RPF is located? How does the RPF "candidate" get to do the RPF based on who is running it?

If you have the intention to punish then its a dead duck from the start.
You can either build someone up or break them.

Have you ANY knowledge of the Stanford Experiment? The Stanford Experiment definitely put to rest the concept that there is anything like "kind and gentle" imprisonment, i.e., involuntary restraint of one's person.

When I read your kind, I sincerely want to rip my eyeballs from their sockets.

xx
 

Jachs

Gold Meritorious Patron

I'm not by any means saying it is a good experience, i just found the link and thought i would post it.

I think the concept is good, but not how it is currently carried out.

You think that the concept of imprisonment, with no recourse, no matter if it is kind and gentle, is a GOOD CONCEPT?

(No, i didnt say that you did)

I think it also depends where and who is running it.

So, how does the RPF "candidate" get to choose where the RPF is located? How does the RPF "candidate" get to do the RPF based on who is running it?

If you have the intention to punish then its a dead duck from the start.
You can either build someone up or break them.
again i agree, You can either build someone up or break them.

Have you ANY knowledge of the Stanford Experiment? The Stanford Experiment definitely put to rest the concept that there is anything like "kind and gentle" imprisonment, i.e., involuntary restraint of one's person.
ive seen the experiment, any enforcement/ inhibition of A or R or C defeats rehabilitation at the outset.

When I read your kind, I sincerely want to rip my eyeballs from their sockets.
Before you rip, you need to read my reply first

if you got a bad reality, just remember im not the enemy who forced that upon you.
 
Last edited:

Karen#1

Gold Meritorious Patron
The Tax Man Cometh

Worth a read

taxman.jpg

The Tax Man Cometh
Posted on February 27, 2011 by admin

Among the allegations publicly aired by whistleblowers are claims that David Miscavige executed a “takeover” of Scientology’s governing institutions, eliminated his potential rivals and undid the managerial checks and balances put in place by LRH (namely, the Watch Dog Committee and the International Executive Strata).[1]

Miscavige then reportedly created an empire for himself, a lavish lifestyle fit for a king, and bestowed on his purported best friend, Tom Cruise, gifts in the form of thousands of hours of Sea Org labor. (See, e.g., Excess Benefits Worksheet)

It is no wonder that various media outlets have publicly called for a revocation of the Church’s tax exempt status, including such prominent media as ABC News Nightline, on October 23, 2009 and The New York Times, Sunday edition (the article appearing on page one, above the fold), on March 7, 2010.

The reports of Miscavige’s financial and management irregularities strike at the core qualifications for tax-exempt status. The affairs and activities of nonprofit religious corporations must be governed by a board of independent directors. And private benefit by individuals from the assets and income of a charitable organization is unlawful and grounds for revocation of tax-exempt status.

Continue reading →http://blog.savescientology.com/
 

LongTimeGone

Silver Meritorious Patron
Wow Karen, that is crazy, thanks for the post! I am so happy that I am out! The irony is that as a new business owner I have had a lot of debt, but I am on my way to success and I am SO HAPPY that I am out before I become successful and have money!

I'm new to the board, I'll post my story soon. I haven't been in for too long and didn't spend a ton but I was about to give my life to the SO after selling my biz! I am so happy about this message board because this helped me so much to wake up and get out of the insane asylum! Everyone, I read your posts and I am so glad that you take your time to expose the abuses! Thanks ESMB! :hattip:

Welcome OperatingEnthetan.

I'm looking forward to your post - I am especially interested in why, with all the info now available on the net and in the media, you still considered joining the SO?

Did you find the critics pages before or after deciding to cut and run?

Opting out was a wise move in my opinion.

LTG
 
Top