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Svetka

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Beautiful pictures on that video, but the message is not much worth. Do not take anything personally? "It all has nothing to do with me?" Well, I do not agree that disassociation should be mistaken for freedom. How can you be in communication with anything if you allow yourself to be effect of nothing? Or if you take NO responsibility for inflow?
 

MattD

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I did, but didn't want to be so unkind to dear old Lucas and their crappy car electronics as to add any heat to the fire.

:dieslaughing::dieslaughing:

Rog

And you would have too! I'm still a bit miffed at Lucas from my experiences with a Triumph Spitfire, and at Stomberg too for not being Weber!

At least a spitfire was light enough for my girlfriend to get out and push! (she didn't know how to drive stick)

:)
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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You buncha crybabies!

And you would have too! I'm still a bit miffed at Lucas from my experiences with a Triumph Spitfire, and at Stomberg too for not being Weber!

At least a spitfire was light enough for my girlfriend to get out and push! (she didn't know how to drive stick)

:)

I came to LOVE the twin SUs on my Jag! :yes::biglove:

EP
 

Terril park

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I did, but didn't want to be so unkind to dear old Lucas and their crappy car electronics as to add any heat to the fire.

:dieslaughing::dieslaughing:

Rog

Well I'll try and stop this being a Lucas flame wars thread.

Their electronics, distributers, dynamos and starters etc were used by several european manufacturers including Volvo if my memory serves me right.
[ usually does]

In the sixties, seventies and perhaps eighties they were widely used,
specially by Brit manufacturers. Dunno if they were less reliable than the competition. Can't in fact remember who the competition was! Such electronics were an area of much car problems, and note they'd be in continuous use for the life of a car so heavy use, and thus in the front line for wear and tear.

I was very impressed by the 1994 Lincoln Continental that I did 7000
miles on in my journey in the US a few years ago. It used no oil at all!!!

It did have a failure with I think the coil. Or something connected to it.

I had a 1990s Volkswagon Passat. Really good reliable car. I needed to replace 2 coils in 3 years. A known weakness.

Maybe that Lucas was the state of the art in its times. Almost all cars I had used their stuff.

For the last several years I've used japanese cars. Never had a problem.

So your electrics go in a car. One can extrapolate from that to
" Prince of Darkness. " :)

However they still replace stuff!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Industries
 

RogerB

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Ahh, my dear T . . .

I was being a bit provocative . . . . just that my memory is long, and with so many memories of Lucas.

Lucas was state of the art at a particular point in time. . . . of course times change, and the Brit Motor industry, due to advances did not . . . shall we say, advance as they might have?

When I was in the UK, Bosch was the comparative . . . and they appeared to have a more advanced, superior system . . . but then, auto electronics was such a changing scenario, and demands of the systems were so changed as the industry developed . . . I remember the tale that one of the "geniuses" at GM in the US broke all the rules of physics to develop his system to advance such systems, that he left the rest in the dust!

Lucas had a lock on supply to the Brit auto industry, and as time went on, their excellence (based in the '30's) began to fail to measure up to modern demands in the '60's-'70's.

But love them, like Rolls Royce they set the standards in their hay day.

I just remember them in the days of the '70's when their system wasn't keeping up with the developments of advanced auto demands.

And I'll tell you, for sure, it does sadden me that the brilliance of the British science and engineering so faded after WWII due to lack of support in terms of resources and market.

A wonderful resource of intellectual brilliance got wasted. :grouch:

R
 

Terril park

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Ahh, my dear T . . .

I was being a bit provocative . . . . just that my memory is long, and with so many memories of Lucas.

Lucas was state of the art at a particular point in time. . . . of course times change, and the Brit Motor industry, due to advances did not . . . shall we say, advance as they might have?

When I was in the UK, Bosch was the comparative . . . and they appeared to have a more advanced, superior system . . . but then, auto electronics was such a changing scenario, and demands of the systems were so changed as the industry developed . . . I remember the tale that one of the "geniuses" at GM in the US broke all the rules of physics to develop his system to advance such systems, that he left the rest in the dust!

Lucas had a lock on supply to the Brit auto industry, and as time went on, their excellence (based in the '30's) began to fail to measure up to modern demands in the '60's-'70's.

But love them, like Rolls Royce they set the standards in their hay day.

I just remember them in the days of the '70's when their system wasn't keeping up with the developments of advanced auto demands.

And I'll tell you, for sure, it does sadden me that the brilliance of the British science and engineering so faded after WWII due to lack of support in terms of resources and market.

A wonderful resource of intellectual brilliance got wasted. :grouch:

R

Forgot about Bosch. Never had much connection to them. And thus don't don't their reliability record.

What also happened was that the brit motor industry used its public as
Qual. Lol Big fail!

Then whopping complacency. Trying to sell cars in overseas markets the
bright spark execs told the home team that the Japanese imports were
.......laughable.

Thus went the car and bike industry and television industry.

Sort of.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Quotes from the Bill Franks - Gwells thread

I obtained permission from Face to do a copy/paste and bring the interesting discussion involving Bill Franks over to the Apollo thread so here it is:

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Originally Posted by gwells
I posted it for Bill...I am new to this network and figured if I posted to 3 separate categories it would get seen by more people, which is what Bill wanted. He tried to use this site and was not successful (new to social networks) and I said I would help him out...not spam just "new user" gwells

Okay gwells. I should be in bed and I'm headin' there after this post.

I guess your "Bill Franks" forgot that he wasn't on the Apollo in '74.

But, as you are "obviously" his trusted confidant, I’m sure you can tell me just exactly where he was and what his post during ’74. There are many more “holes” in your post but, for now, I’m “keeping my powder dry”.

Please confer with “Bill” and respond to my statement and inquiry re: ’74.

Face
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This is a real interesting thread which is going on and arises from activities on the Flagship Apollo in 1974, so it still has relevance on our Apollo '73 thread.
Lakey
 

afaceinthecrowd

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I obtained permission from Face to do a copy/paste and bring the interesting discussion involving Bill Franks over to the Apollo thread so here it is:

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwells
I posted it for Bill...I am new to this network and figured if I posted to 3 separate categories it would get seen by more people, which is what Bill wanted. He tried to use this site and was not successful (new to social networks) and I said I would help him out...not spam just "new user" gwells

Okay gwells. I should be in bed and I'm headin' there after this post.

I guess your "Bill Franks" forgot that he wasn't on the Apollo in '74.

But, as you are "obviously" his trusted confidant, I’m sure you can tell me just exactly where he was and what his post during ’74. There are many more “holes” in your post but, for now, I’m “keeping my powder dry”.

Please confer with “Bill” and respond to my statement and inquiry re: ’74.

Face
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Living is a Metaphor of Life


This is a real interesting thread which is going on and arises from activities on the Flagship Apollo in 1974, so it still has relevance on our Apollo '73 thread.
Lakey

Here's my latest post.

Face:)

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=542162&postcount=83
 
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