afaceinthecrowd
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As an aside, "Judas Goat" also has a WW 2 reference.
http://www.mellophant.com/forums/showthread.php?9542-Judas-Goats
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Shooting Stars
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afaceinthecrowd
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Oh my gosh, Ward, I just had to call you with the
good news--Face has written another one of those
wonderful posts that we love to read so much!
Love it, HH!
afaceinthecrowd
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Thanks Sandwich. I found the book on Amazon and ordered it. It's one of the "All About" series and the title is, "Implantology for Fun & Profit".
Face
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As an aside, "Judas Goat" also has a WW 2 reference.
http://www.mellophant.com/forums/showthread.php?9542-Judas-Goats
This was interesting. I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about the 8th Air Force and I did not know about this. It is not mentioned in any of the biographies of 8th AF types I have read nor have I seen it in any of the documentaries. At what level were these ships employed; Group, Wing?
I apologize in advance for the non-scientology subject matter, but this is important shit.
afaceinthecrowd
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Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
“To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves.” Will Durant
I have spoken ill of El Ron on ESMB. I have spoken ill of others and, in particular, the COC Jackal Pack in this series. I’m obviously “praising” myself in what I have written. I’m praising myself for parts of my story that I will never share openly on ESMB—not because I am afraid but because I wish to protect the innocent, the still "In" and, with accordance to contemporary jurisprudence, the guilty. My words are but a few tiles that are part of my offering to the composite “mosaic” and apparently, most comfortingly, some of Y’all’s continuous and ever more illuminated lustrous mosaic.
Perhaps, in yet another “twist” of this Universe...yet another “angle” on the pool table of Living that I cannot see…Y’all’s “Takes” with a “Dash” of my “Take” is honest enough to be of sufficient accuracy to help others in ways that the words of all Y’all helped me clarify—and continue to clarify—what we each saw, what we each experienced, what we each seek—or at least I do—to distill, clarify and resolve.
In the countless hours I spent reading thousands upon thousands of pages of El Ron’s words and listening to well over 500 of Hisself’s taped lectures I find, at this point in my life, that a small fraction was of lasting value and the vast majority has brought me profound heartache and indescribable pain to me and countless others…which I shall not dwell on here at this time.
Every breath taken in Living presents choices. Every hour of collective “moments” is filled with a cornucopia of choices. Most of these choices are innocuous, benign and mundane. Some of these choices are pivotal yet only discernable as to importance in retrospect. A few of these choices—very few in actuality—are life changing.
I have made life changing choices, as has every person that reads my words…every person that has read El Ron’s words. Every choice I have made is predicated in some way by my experience, my wants, my dreams, my aspirations my faith in or fear of my future and my profound ignorance. None of my “predicates” are my “fault” or the fault of any other—they are just simply part of my path.
Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
“Kristallnacht: The Year of the Jackals”
“Don't desire to be liked or admired.” L. Ron Hubbard, “The Code of Honor”.
“Unless, of course, you’re ‘Source’.” Face’s Fifth Caveat.
I desire to be liked and admired. I intensely like and admire others and I suppose that’s my own personal “Achilles Heal”. I don’t like and admire others because I want to be them or want something from them, but because, from my frame of reference, I am fascinated with the heart, nobility, difference and struggle that Living their Life has surely seen and born. I just want to know about others Lives, about their “moments” and share in them with them and, somehow, help to foster a more “perfect” moment along their future path. That’s my “Story”…that’s why I went to Flag to work for El Ron. In retrospect, I have more—much more—fulfilled my wants, dreams and aspirations and followed my faith in the face of my fears in spite of my ignorance “out” of Scn rather than “in”.
My “Take” on El Ron and Scn is biased and mitigated by my personal frame of reference and, therefore, should not be taken as definitive, conclusive or "Gospel". There are so many others whose input, analysis and factual narratives are far more substantive, intelligent and accurate than mine. At this stage in my Life—at this point on my path--all I have to offer is my flawed, fumbling and judiciously edited egocentric “Takes”.
I don’t hate or despise El Ron. I'm just calling, from my perspective, Hisself "down on the carpet" that I saw Hisself call others down on...that Hisself sought to call all of the Old Guard, the Mission Holders, the Field Auditors and Luminaries and Field Scientologists down on. I’m just, step by step, focusing on Hisself the same total and brutal honesty that I desired, sought and was completely willing to "Face" up to, to of "Self", of which personal desire El Ron’s Scn construct was designed to use against me for “my own good” and the "good of others".
Institutionalized Scientology is, fundamentally, a self contained “Closed System” of “Like” and “Admire”. It is an “all you can eat” smorgasbord or buffet of hors devours, prepared dishes and deserts for the fulfilling of our desire’s to be bold, to be “Whole”, to be “Somebody” or our own private “Persona” per our each and several individual preferred “Menu”. El Ron’s stroke of “Genius” was that if Hisself could get all of Us to “feed” off of each each other then El Ron could “feed” on Us--all "Pyramid Schemes" follow the same motif.
I like compliments. I’m prone to spontaneously give honest and heartfelt compliments. I bask in the warmth of admiration of others when given. I feel warmer when another basks in the honest from the heart admiration I give to them. I do not seek to connive how to get a compliment from others and I do not calculate how to have another admire me...I think El Ron did and I watched Hisself do it. But, I desire to be liked and admired…not for “masturbation” of my personal being but as an affirmation that “Yes”, I have by my actions, my presence and my too often fumbling ways stumbled--with naïve sincerity--to helping another to feel better about themselves, their life and renewed determination to walk their path.
I have been taken aback by the sincerity of the compliments I have received and grace of the admiration I have received in my life...it humbles me, encourages me and honestly at times confuses me and gives me pause to reflect on the content of my own Heart…and that is, in the end, always a good thing that helps to light and mark my personal path. I sometimes wish that I was not this way as it has brought me much pain, desperation and sorrow. Unfortunately, I have not capability of changing “for the better” and will continue to live my life as a fool for the beauty, majesty and devine dignity of others’ lives and the Life I see all around me.
The constitute parts, qualities and expression of “Liked” and “Admired” are different for each of Us and the qualities, flavor and style that are “Perfect!” for each of Us are as varied as each and every one of Us is singularly unique.
I do not fault El Ron for desiring to be liked and admired. But, I personally came to abhor that “Liked” for El Ron was that all of Us would pledge “Fealty” and that “Admired” meant what ever you have earned, sacrificed for and continued to strive each day to achieve is, ultimately, Hisself’s rightful possession. That’s how Hisself saw it my friends. All of Us were Chattel and Hisself’s Gambit was that here would be a never ending supply of “Ingénues” seeking “It” so as to someday be “IT”.
5 sentences consisting of 34 words every Scn and Ex Scn has read, and probably knows by heart, that if El Ron had only but heeded the Scn Kristallnacht would never have happened.
And, quoting the old “Shake & Bake” TV commercial from years ago, “And I helped.”
In a week or so,
Shooting Stars, Part Fifteen
“Epilogue”
Peace.
Face
“To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves.” Will Durant
I have spoken ill of El Ron on ESMB. I have spoken ill of others and, in particular, the COC Jackal Pack in this series. I’m obviously “praising” myself in what I have written. I’m praising myself for parts of my story that I will never share openly on ESMB—not because I am afraid but because I wish to protect the innocent, the still "In" and, with accordance to contemporary jurisprudence, the guilty. My words are but a few tiles that are part of my offering to the composite “mosaic” and apparently, most comfortingly, some of Y’all’s continuous and ever more illuminated lustrous mosaic.
Perhaps, in yet another “twist” of this Universe...yet another “angle” on the pool table of Living that I cannot see…Y’all’s “Takes” with a “Dash” of my “Take” is honest enough to be of sufficient accuracy to help others in ways that the words of all Y’all helped me clarify—and continue to clarify—what we each saw, what we each experienced, what we each seek—or at least I do—to distill, clarify and resolve.
In the countless hours I spent reading thousands upon thousands of pages of El Ron’s words and listening to well over 500 of Hisself’s taped lectures I find, at this point in my life, that a small fraction was of lasting value and the vast majority has brought me profound heartache and indescribable pain to me and countless others…which I shall not dwell on here at this time.
Every breath taken in Living presents choices. Every hour of collective “moments” is filled with a cornucopia of choices. Most of these choices are innocuous, benign and mundane. Some of these choices are pivotal yet only discernable as to importance in retrospect. A few of these choices—very few in actuality—are life changing.
I have made life changing choices, as has every person that reads my words…every person that has read El Ron’s words. Every choice I have made is predicated in some way by my experience, my wants, my dreams, my aspirations my faith in or fear of my future and my profound ignorance. None of my “predicates” are my “fault” or the fault of any other—they are just simply part of my path.
Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
“Kristallnacht: The Year of the Jackals”
“Don't desire to be liked or admired.” L. Ron Hubbard, “The Code of Honor”.
“Unless, of course, you’re ‘Source’.” Face’s Fifth Caveat.
I desire to be liked and admired. I intensely like and admire others and I suppose that’s my own personal “Achilles Heal”. I don’t like and admire others because I want to be them or want something from them, but because, from my frame of reference, I am fascinated with the heart, nobility, difference and struggle that Living their Life has surely seen and born. I just want to know about others Lives, about their “moments” and share in them with them and, somehow, help to foster a more “perfect” moment along their future path. That’s my “Story”…that’s why I went to Flag to work for El Ron. In retrospect, I have more—much more—fulfilled my wants, dreams and aspirations and followed my faith in the face of my fears in spite of my ignorance “out” of Scn rather than “in”.
My “Take” on El Ron and Scn is biased and mitigated by my personal frame of reference and, therefore, should not be taken as definitive, conclusive or "Gospel". There are so many others whose input, analysis and factual narratives are far more substantive, intelligent and accurate than mine. At this stage in my Life—at this point on my path--all I have to offer is my flawed, fumbling and judiciously edited egocentric “Takes”.
I don’t hate or despise El Ron. I'm just calling, from my perspective, Hisself "down on the carpet" that I saw Hisself call others down on...that Hisself sought to call all of the Old Guard, the Mission Holders, the Field Auditors and Luminaries and Field Scientologists down on. I’m just, step by step, focusing on Hisself the same total and brutal honesty that I desired, sought and was completely willing to "Face" up to, to of "Self", of which personal desire El Ron’s Scn construct was designed to use against me for “my own good” and the "good of others".
Institutionalized Scientology is, fundamentally, a self contained “Closed System” of “Like” and “Admire”. It is an “all you can eat” smorgasbord or buffet of hors devours, prepared dishes and deserts for the fulfilling of our desire’s to be bold, to be “Whole”, to be “Somebody” or our own private “Persona” per our each and several individual preferred “Menu”. El Ron’s stroke of “Genius” was that if Hisself could get all of Us to “feed” off of each each other then El Ron could “feed” on Us--all "Pyramid Schemes" follow the same motif.
I like compliments. I’m prone to spontaneously give honest and heartfelt compliments. I bask in the warmth of admiration of others when given. I feel warmer when another basks in the honest from the heart admiration I give to them. I do not seek to connive how to get a compliment from others and I do not calculate how to have another admire me...I think El Ron did and I watched Hisself do it. But, I desire to be liked and admired…not for “masturbation” of my personal being but as an affirmation that “Yes”, I have by my actions, my presence and my too often fumbling ways stumbled--with naïve sincerity--to helping another to feel better about themselves, their life and renewed determination to walk their path.
I have been taken aback by the sincerity of the compliments I have received and grace of the admiration I have received in my life...it humbles me, encourages me and honestly at times confuses me and gives me pause to reflect on the content of my own Heart…and that is, in the end, always a good thing that helps to light and mark my personal path. I sometimes wish that I was not this way as it has brought me much pain, desperation and sorrow. Unfortunately, I have not capability of changing “for the better” and will continue to live my life as a fool for the beauty, majesty and devine dignity of others’ lives and the Life I see all around me.
The constitute parts, qualities and expression of “Liked” and “Admired” are different for each of Us and the qualities, flavor and style that are “Perfect!” for each of Us are as varied as each and every one of Us is singularly unique.
I do not fault El Ron for desiring to be liked and admired. But, I personally came to abhor that “Liked” for El Ron was that all of Us would pledge “Fealty” and that “Admired” meant what ever you have earned, sacrificed for and continued to strive each day to achieve is, ultimately, Hisself’s rightful possession. That’s how Hisself saw it my friends. All of Us were Chattel and Hisself’s Gambit was that here would be a never ending supply of “Ingénues” seeking “It” so as to someday be “IT”.
5 sentences consisting of 34 words every Scn and Ex Scn has read, and probably knows by heart, that if El Ron had only but heeded the Scn Kristallnacht would never have happened.
And, quoting the old “Shake & Bake” TV commercial from years ago, “And I helped.”
In a week or so,
Shooting Stars, Part Fifteen
“Epilogue”
Peace.
Face
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Re: Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
Thanks for the latest episode.
Namaste.
Mark A. Baker
Thanks for the latest episode.
Namaste.
Mark A. Baker
Ted
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Re: Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
Face, it has become obvious that you just happen to be one of those incorrigible social personalities I hear about from time to time--a fellow human being, not afraid to be "IN" with humanity, not aloof or "exterior," experiencing all the good, bad, ugly, and beautiful that life has to offer. Your story is a good one, and there is no harm in running down LRH when and where he deserves it. That is one way we human beans can move on.
Thanks for the "takes," all bought and paid for. Much of what you have said acts as confirmation rather than condemnation.
Face, it has become obvious that you just happen to be one of those incorrigible social personalities I hear about from time to time--a fellow human being, not afraid to be "IN" with humanity, not aloof or "exterior," experiencing all the good, bad, ugly, and beautiful that life has to offer. Your story is a good one, and there is no harm in running down LRH when and where he deserves it. That is one way we human beans can move on.
Thanks for the "takes," all bought and paid for. Much of what you have said acts as confirmation rather than condemnation.
Free to shine
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Beautifully written Face. Thankyou.
HelluvaHoax!
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Re: Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
After that wonderful post, your next C/S is:
After that wonderful post, your next C/S is:
1. Fly a rud if no F/N.
2. Bask!
2. Bask!
ILove2Lurk
Lisbeth Salander
Face,
You're a "National Treasure," if you will, in our community. I can't think of a better accolade.
Please keep writing MOAR. Or you'll be giving a lot of us some bad withdrawal symptoms.
Your work is appreciated.
ILove2Lurk
You're a "National Treasure," if you will, in our community. I can't think of a better accolade.
Please keep writing MOAR. Or you'll be giving a lot of us some bad withdrawal symptoms.
Your work is appreciated.
ILove2Lurk
Lurker5
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I feel like I am getting to the end of the book - you know that sad feeling you get, when the story is almost over, and you do not want it to end . . . .
Face, I hope you will keep on writing, after you finish this one - keep on telling your stories - and maybe someday, you can tell it all, you won't have to go on protecting anyone.
Face, I hope you will keep on writing, after you finish this one - keep on telling your stories - and maybe someday, you can tell it all, you won't have to go on protecting anyone.
afaceinthecrowd
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Re: Shooting Stars, Part Fourteen (conclusion)
Thank you, my friend.
Face
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Thank you, Scooter.
I'm reading your new thread and learning...G-r-e-a-t S-t-u-f-f!
Face
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Thanks, Petey C. All we ever have is what's in our hearts...and that's a real bitch...at least for me.
Face
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I'm still learning.:confused2: And, your one of the folks I'm learning from...big time.
Face
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Thank you, FTS. This means much to me. Writing well is one thing but to write beautifully is, to me, a most humbling compliment.
Face
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Too, too cool, HH!
The rud didn't F/N but damn, if I'm not "basking".
I appreciate all that you "put up" and your "takes" more than you will ever know. Your stuff always "reaches home" with me.
Face
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There's some moar...damn, if you keep posting such good stuff...as you always do...I'll just have to judiciously tell another story or two.
Face
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Your'e so kind. "Shooting Stars, Epilogue" gonna take a few posts.
Okay, I guess I'll have to tell a couple more "El Ron" stories...you little bugger you.
Face
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If I'd never found ESMB, and folks like you, I'd had a very fortunate life...a blessed life. But, being here with all y'all, as I continually and surprisingly come to know is part of completing my "circle". I probably never met you, IL2L, but we probably trod some of the same ground.
I wish you well and your words are more than kind, your words reaffirm that here, on ESMB, are the folks I "joined up with" in the first place.
Face
Thanks for the latest episode.
Namaste.
Mark A. Baker
Thank you, my friend.
Face
---------- Post added at 03:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:46 PM ----------
Thank you, Scooter.
I'm reading your new thread and learning...G-r-e-a-t S-t-u-f-f!
Face
---------- Post added at 03:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:48 PM ----------
Thanks, Petey C.
All we ever have is what's in our hearts...and that's a real bitch...at least for me.Face
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Face, it has become obvious that you just happen to be one of those incorrigible social personalities I hear about from time to time--a fellow human being, not afraid to be "IN" with humanity, not aloof or "exterior," experiencing all the good, bad, ugly, and beautiful that life has to offer. Your story is a good one, and there is no harm in running down LRH when and where he deserves it. That is one way we human beans can move on.
Thanks for the "takes," all bought and paid for. Much of what you have said acts as confirmation rather than condemnation.
I'm still learning.:confused2: And, your one of the folks I'm learning from...big time.
Face
---------- Post added at 04:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:54 PM ----------
Thank you, FTS. This means much to me. Writing well is one thing but to write beautifully is, to me, a most humbling compliment.
Face
---------- Post added at 04:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:00 PM ----------
Too, too cool, HH!
The rud didn't F/N but damn, if I'm not "basking".
I appreciate all that you "put up" and your "takes" more than you will ever know. Your stuff always "reaches home" with me.
Face
---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:05 PM ----------
There's some moar...damn, if you keep posting such good stuff...as you always do...I'll just have to judiciously tell another story or two.
Face
---------- Post added at 04:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:11 PM ----------
I feel like I am getting to the end of the book - you know that sad feeling you get, when the story is almost over, and you do not want it to end . . . .
Face, I hope you will keep on writing, after you finish this one - keep on telling your stories - and maybe someday, you can tell it all, you won't have to go on protecting anyone.
Your'e so kind.
"Shooting Stars, Epilogue" gonna take a few posts.Okay, I guess I'll have to tell a couple more "El Ron" stories...you little bugger you.
Face
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Face,
You're a "National Treasure," if you will, in our community. I can't think of a better accolade.
Please keep writing MOAR. Or you'll be giving a lot of us some bad withdrawal symptoms.
Your work is appreciated.
ILove2Lurk
If I'd never found ESMB, and folks like you, I'd had a very fortunate life...a blessed life. But, being here with all y'all, as I continually and surprisingly come to know is part of completing my "circle". I probably never met you, IL2L, but we probably trod some of the same ground.
I wish you well and your words are more than kind, your words reaffirm that here, on ESMB, are the folks I "joined up with" in the first place.
Face
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Hatshepsut
Crusader
Brilliant writing Face. I've just caught up.
:wink2:
Your posts just keep getting better and better!
Awaiting Shooting Stars part 15
Roll em, roll em, roll em.... keep those posts a movin. Write em in! ___ Move em out !!
I am very impressed,
Hat
Your posts just keep getting better and better!
Awaiting Shooting Stars part 15
Roll em, roll em, roll em.... keep those posts a movin. Write em in! ___ Move em out !!
I am very impressed,
Hat
afaceinthecrowd
Gold Meritorious Patron
wow - i finally reached the end of this thread!
great insights face, thank you
Thank you, Al.
Face