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Today is the 48th anniversary of Murray the K playing the first Beatle record on American air waves

There is a terrifically inspiring story of Suzy "Chapstick" Chaffee here:

http://www.powdermag.com/stories/reflections-with-suzy-chapstick-chaffee/
That's a happy lady doing what she loves all through her life.

Boy the difference in what was a perfect smile full of chicklets back in the day and what is in the final video. They only make smiles like that in America. :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVSR_uMhTFI&feature=player_detailpage
 
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I ran across these quotes in my reading this morning. I rather liked them.

"Patience is sustained courage."

"Wisdom is seeing many things and concentrating on one thing."

Jesse Livermore (famous old-time Wall Street trader/investor)

I suppose being a famous and successful trader on Wall Street, the above sentiments from him are appropriate in today's circumstances.

Rog
 
red tide in San Diego ////at night it is luminescent blue

[video=youtube;ZSwFapBSyC8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSwFapBSyC8&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
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This shows the red tide better... When I was young I used to love to go to the beach at night and watch this when there was a red tide.

Those little buggers really light up when they are agitated! They put on a really beautiful show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZVvIWI2psU
 
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Just posting about one of my favorite films.

" Stripes"

Just watched it again for about the 6th time.

Only Buster Keaton has been so honored by me. All major movies
watched 6 or 7 times.

Director Ivan Reitman, director of " Ghost Busters" and much else.
Starring Bill Murray, Harold Ramis, John Candy and Sean Young in an early role[ the doll from Blade Runner]


My favorite line, the asshole Bill Murray taking on the role of Drill Instructor:-

" We are Americans! What this means is that all our ancestors were kicked out of every civilized country"
 
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Just posting about one of my favorite films.

" Stripes"

Just watched it again for about the 6th time.

Only Buster Keaton has been so honored by me. All major movies
watched 6 or 7 times.

Director Ivan Reitman, director of " Ghost Busters" and much else.
Starring Bill Murray, Harold Ramis, John Candy and Sean Young in an early role[ the doll from Blade Runner]


My favorite line, the asshole Bill Murray taking on the role of Drill Instructor:-

" We are Americans! What this means is that all our ancestors were kicked out of every civilized country"
I thought Stripes was hilarious when I first saw it. NO respect for authority! Sean Young in Blade Runner left an indelible imprint on my psyche; sort of like Scarlet at Miss Mellie's party for Beau when she appeared all in red. Last night I was watching Gladiator again for the millionth time. I noticed that Ridley Scott (director of Blade Runner) is expert at painting an effect with just the right lighting. He asks himself, "how do I want the audience to 'feel' in this scene. He plays you like a violin.
Last night also, I was watching a recap of Donald Trump talking to a bunch of young 30 something entrepreneurs. He was being interviewed about the successful traits needed to become a billionaire. His first love was film. When he was in his late teens and early twenties he wanted to make movies. He had a passion for art. Then a businessman consulting him on real estate ventures pointed out to Donald that nobody had all the information he had.....and The Donald realized it was real estate capitalism that made him come alive. He loves it. As he was describing the old entrepreneurs who knew how to implement their visions and had courage and were willing to take risks, I just knew he was thinking of Buster Keaton too. :yes:

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I agree Hats, looks good.

LRH didn't like J. Edgar, must have been a good guy.:coolwink:

Dunno about that FT . . . strikes me Hubbard and JEH as a relationship is on a par with Hitler and old Joe Stalin . . . not good versus bad, but two baddies disliking each other.

R
 
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Dunno about that FT . . . strikes me Hubbard and JEH as a relationship is on a par with Hitler and old Joe Stalin . . . not good versus bad, but two baddies disliking each other.

R

Spot on Roger! I would like to add my opinion as to Hitler and Stalin disliking each other. They shared some common reality and a similar goal of world domination and since they both got pretty far on the road to world domination, they also grudgingly felt admiration for one another.
Lakey
 
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I agree Hats, looks good.

LRH didn't like J. Edgar, must have been a good guy.:coolwink:

I don't know about that. Hubbard had very little good to say about anybody from history. Very rarely does he make a positive comment about an historical figure and when he does, he often tempers it with criticism.

Trying to think of people whom he complimented, the list I come up with is short. I remember some comments about Freud whom he compliments as the "Grand Old Man" of mental therapy. It is sort of a left handed compliment because he states that Freud was the first one to think that something COULD be done about it. As to what Freud came up with as his treatment, Hubbard is less than enthusiastic about it.

I remember some positive things said about George Bernard Shaw, a tiny bit of admiration for Samuel Goldwyn, the movie mogul, great praise for the Brithish blueblood, Tony Armstrong Jones, for taking a spectacular photograph in the mid 1960's. There is a minor mention that J.S. Bach had an uncanny ability to come up with the right notes at the right places in his musical compostions. He also raves a lot about Commander Snake Thompson who he claims taught him Freudian therapy. He sometimes mentions Sir Isaac Newton in a positive light. Buddha is mentioned favorably but then LRH claims that HE was Buddha so that is just self gratification. -THOSE ARE ALL THE POSITIVE REFERENCES I CAN COME UP WITH.

Note that none of the great leaders or statesmen in history is ever mentioned in a positive manner. This includes Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin and Lincoln from US history or Winston Churchill of Brittain. You hear nothing mentioned of Archimedes, Euripides or any of the great people of Ancient Greece and Rome. Nothing is ever mentioned about the Hebrews, the Chinese, the Indians, the Japanese, the great scientists or the great mathematicians, etc. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle are mentioned in passing in a manner similar to Freud. LRH credits them for starting "Philosophy" but then claims that they fell far short in developing that subject and suggests that it was left to him to finish development of the subject.

He goes out of his way to bash Franklin Roosevelt at every opportunity and ditto for Albert Einstein! I believe that he resented those two particularly because they had achieved what he sought after so desperately. Roosevelt achieiving great acclaim as a stateman and a key figure in defeating facism and Einstein receiving great acclaim as a genius from the Scientific community.

So in closing, if he chose to bash J. Edgar Hoover, that does not necessarily mean that Hoover was good or bad. Mainly, he bashed everbody
Lakey
 
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Re: Lectures and a radio interview by John McMaster

No direct access through these links. What is the folder addy?

I just clicked on the links with a computer with no history.

One needs to log in to Dropbox to download them. The screen you get, gives you a button to log in, and if you don't have a Dropbox account, it gives you the choice of creating one.

Dropbox is a free service that I use to transfer / sync files effortlessly from my laptop to my iPod to my desktop computer.

These lectures and one radio interview I've been listening to over and over for the past few days. They are some of the best Post / Para Scientology talks that I've ever heard.

I am finding them to be really rekindling older purposes in me. Listening to them brings me back to my youthful, uncollapsed, feeling of positive hope for the future.
 
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I just clicked on the links with a computer with no history.

One needs to log in to Dropbox to download them. The screen you get, gives you a button to log in, and if you don't have a Dropbox account, it gives you the choice of creating one.

Dropbox is a free service that I use to transfer / sync files effortlessly from my laptop to my iPod to my desktop computer.

These lectures and one radio interview I've been listening to over and over for the past few days. They are some of the best Post / Para Scientology talks that I've ever heard.

I am finding them to be really rekindling older purposes in me. Listening to them brings me back to my youthful, uncollapsed, feeling of positive hope for the future.

The links you posted don't work. They work for you because they lead into your private account, not your public folder. It sounds like you copied and pasted the links in your browser window -- that's not how you link to DropBox stuff. Here is how you make a link everyone can use: https://www.dropbox.com/help/16

I would really be interested in hearing the talks!
 
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Didn't mean to give the impression that I believed that J. Edgar was good. I was being facetious which was the purpose of the emoticon wink. it was more of a slap at Hubbard. I believe J. Edgar was devious in his own ways.
Dunno about that FT . . . strikes me Hubbard and JEH as a relationship is on a par with Hitler and old Joe Stalin . . . not good versus bad, but two baddies disliking each other.

R
 
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I don't know about that. Hubbard had very little good to say about anybody from history. Very rarely does he make a positive comment about an historical figure and when he does, he often tempers it with criticism.

Trying to think of people whom he complimented, the list I come up with is short. I remember some comments about Freud whom he compliments as the "Grand Old Man" of mental therapy. It is sort of a left handed compliment because he states that Freud was the first one to think that something COULD be done about it. As to what Freud came up with as his treatment, Hubbard is less than enthusiastic about it.

I remember some positive things said about George Bernard Shaw, a tiny bit of admiration for Samuel Goldwyn, the movie mogul, great praise for the Brithish blueblood, Tony Armstrong Jones, for taking a spectacular photograph in the mid 1960's. There is a minor mention that J.S. Bach had an uncanny ability to come up with the right notes at the right places in his musical compostions. He also raves a lot about Commander Snake Thompson who he claims taught him Freudian therapy. He sometimes mentions Sir Isaac Newton in a positive light. Buddha is mentioned favorably but then LRH claims that HE was Buddha so that is just self gratification. -THOSE ARE ALL THE POSITIVE REFERENCES I CAN COME UP WITH.

Note that none of the great leaders or statesmen in history is ever mentioned in a positive manner. This includes Washington, Jefferson, Ben Franklin and Lincoln from US history or Winston Churchill of Brittain. You hear nothing mentioned of Archimedes, Euripides or any of the great people of Ancient Greece and Rome. Nothing is ever mentioned about the Hebrews, the Chinese, the Indians, the Japanese, the great scientists or the great mathematicians, etc. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle are mentioned in passing in a manner similar to Freud. LRH credits them for starting "Philosophy" but then claims that they fell far short in developing that subject and suggests that it was left to him to finish development of the subject.
Lakey

He goes out of his way to bash Franklin Roosevelt at every opportunity and ditto for Albert Einstein! I believe that he resented those two particularly because they had achieved what he sought after so desperately. Roosevelt achieiving great acclaim as a stateman and a key figure in defeating facism and Einstein receiving great acclaim as a genius from the Scientific community.

So in closing, if he chose to bash J. Edgar Hoover, that does not necessarily mean that Hoover was good or bad. Mainly, he bashed everbody


Pretty good summation, Lakey.

Hubbard makes a snide comment about Hemingway, too. If only Hubbard was as popular. You can hear the envy in Hubbard's voice. Another snide comment about "Frankie Boy" Roosevelt, if only Hubbard could wield that much power and influence. I think that was another point of envy, or perhaps he detested serving in the war. About Churchill, he compliments the Brits in general for the Battle of Britain, but no specific reference to Churchill that I recall. This I take as an oblique pat on the back to dedicated staff because if they have that level of commitment that gains his admiration. He once defined wog as Worthy Oriental Gentleman painting a word picture of an obsequious, humble, non-causative Chinaman.

Just like any good magician, Hubbard attempted to control perceptions at every opportunity. In Hubbard's case, it was him on top, others below. Or it was him in opposition to those things many people were naturally opposed to: nuclear war, war in general, ... then later squirrels, SPs (that he defined), and so on.

I enjoyed Hubbard's general observations about life and people. From those observations he developed processes, programs, rundowns, and training courses then offered them up as a solution. Sometimes that was good, sometimes not. His observations I liked, his solutions not so much. For example, everyone does not run Dianetics well. For some it just goes nowhere, and that is not because they are already Clear, or not sufficiently prepped with a C/S-1, or out-ethics, or out-Int., or out-lists, or out-ruds, and so on. Dianetics is just not their process.

The other side of the Hubbard coin is one that promotes disaffection. If you like those things that Hubbard likes, that's a hook on the positive. That one is hard to spit out. If you dislike those things Hubbard dislikes, that's a hook into the negative--also hard to spit out. Listening to Hubbard one can become disaffected with different things, people, elements of life where no disaffection existed before. This is one way Scientologists get weird. Taking Hubbard to heart about Hemingway, for example, a Scientologist might never have the pleasure of studying one of America's great writers. And so it goes... "Don't look over there," says the magician. "Look here!"

Bottom line: In studying Hubbard, beware of his seeds of disaffection. And, beware of the smoke being blown up your ass.

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