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It's the funkiest, freakiest infomercial ever!

The sales pitch is so long, they have to break it up into segments and give it to you over decades.

What are they selling you?

Your Eternity

Can anybody actually give me a clue what they are talking about? I'm not kidding.

I have absolutely no idea.

And Scientologists don't either, but they talk about it all the time.

And threaten to take it away from you if you don't obey their orders.

What the hell does Scientology have to do with "eternity" other than they use the word a lot?
 

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Well, no, the Federal dollar might qualify, if only by the same standard of having been around a while:

Flash back to 1834:
"Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!"

From the original minutes of the Philadelphia committee of citizens sent to meet with President Jackson (February 1834), according to Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels - online PDF

Sounds somewhat like the current situation of Goldman Sach's US Federal Reserve Corporation registered in Puerto Rico...

Only this corporation has a corporate name "Church of Spiritual Technology Incorporated" - both are corporations of the money, by the money and for the money... both are confidence games.

The best solution to both problems is a concerted push to return to a Constitutional government of the people, by the people and for the people.
 

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When you have found out what eternity is all about, could you please explore "clearing the planet"?

Clearing the planet of what exactly?
As it is pretty clear that clear humans don't exist, have never existed nor will ever exist, I have to assume that the clearing means something...else?

As it is all imaginary could we not simply announce to the Scientological world that the planet is now clear and they can stop worrying about it? Go back to worrying about overdrafts or getting through the rpf.
There we go, problem solved.


Are there any definable parameters for "this sector of the universe"?
 

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Only this corporation has a corporate name "Church of Spiritual Technology Incorporated" - both are corporations of the money, by the money and for the money... both are confidence games.

Scientology is a confidence game with a very odd twist.

Normal con games require the mark's confidence to be built up to the point where they take the bait and throw down their money. Scientology has got that one covered in spades.

But, then...

Scientology makes a concerted effort to become the confident one ("total certainty") while psychologically shattering the mark's confidence with ruin-finding-tech. The glowing, all-confident state of Clear, for example, is only allowed to last a preciously short time before the bad news about OT III is dumped on them.

Now the mark is fully uncertain because they have been r-factored that they are "at great risk" unless they quickly pay for the OT levels. The Scientologists "handling" them are at this point supremely confident.

They run Scientologists on this intentional roller coaster, up and down, over and over again in order to re-boot the confidence game.

Now the Scientologist WANTS to be confident again, and in doing so, they actually become an unknowing participant in the confidence game. It's no longer the con man trying to trick them into being confident--the Scientologist is now desperately trying to "attain" confidence and so begins to con themselves.
 

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When you have found out what eternity is all about, could you please explore "clearing the planet"?

Clearing the planet of what exactly?

LOL

That is such a weirdly cool question!

"Clearing the planet of what exactly?"

ANSWER: Clearing the planet of whistleblowers who reveal that Scientology has neither the desire nor the capability of clearing the planet.

If they had the desire, they'd put all the scripture on the internet for free and slash the lavishly unaffordable auditing prices.

If they had the capability, there would be at least 1 clear after 61 years of desperately trying.
 

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Are there any definable parameters for "this sector of the universe"?


Wouldn't it be unbelievably entertaining to survey Scientologists with these questions?

1. Can you describe in specific geographic terms where "this sector" begins and ends?

2. Why does Ron only want to salvage this sector of the universe?​
 

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ANSWER: Clearing the planet of whistleblowers who reveal that Scientology has neither the desire nor the capability of clearing the planet.

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Hmmm. The headcam brigade have been trying...

So squirrelbusters are the new auditors and man's only hope?
:p

Oh. There is another one: Man's only hope.
Hope for what?
Hope for a better future? Does mankind have a collective agreement to what "better future" actually means?


I haven't seen an infomercial for about 10 years but don't they usually describe some sort of end result before you buy the product?

Annoying woman with overly white teeth: Today we have Dave in the studio with an amazing product that will change your life for the better.
So Dave, tell me a little bit about your product.

Dave: It is the best investment you will ever make! It will change your life.

AW: Wow, how can I expect it to change my life?

Dave: You will need to buy it first.

AW: Oh, just a little teaser for the viewers at home...

Dave: It will guarantee your eternity!

AW: Ah, um..What does that mean?

Dave: Which word have you misunderstood?
 

Gadfly

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Wouldn't it be unbelievably entertaining to survey Scientologists with these questions?


Why does Ron only want to salvage this sector of the universe?​

You fucktard, Ron is only STARTING with this sector.

As his Highest Holiness Hubbie Hubbard has taught us, everything must be achieved on a gradient!

So, we start here on Earth. We get into some communities, we expand out into larger and larger areas. We do as Ron said and we expand our spheres of responsibility and cause OUT into the world. We move UP and take control of the higher dynamics. Just like Ron explained to us. We "clear" the mind, body and soul of negative disbelievers like yourself, so that with a UNIFIED group of similarly-minded people, our postulates with finally supercede all and manifest as the "new mechanics of tomorrow". Ron's dream, our dream, MY dream, will become the NEW REALITY.

Also, as we all known, as Capt Bill has informed us, there were 5, 6 or 7 OTHER projects beugn on OTHER planets where Scientology has also been introduced by the Planning Division of the Grand Overloads. Each of these will also expand out into their worlds. As each grows past their own planets, they will all meet, finally having fully addresed and handled THIS SECTOR. It is like the analogy where Ron tells us how the orgs are like islands, that each grow until all the islands connect together as a NEW CONTINENT of peace, knowledge and understanding. The same will happen with the various Scientology Projects that exist on these planets.

Then, in a joyous moment of sector harmony, all will move to expand out into the remaining sectors of the Universe, bringing Ron's dream to all freedom-loving beings everywhere!

Finally, after much hard work and dedicated shoulder-to-shoulder hip-hip-hooraying (and LOTS and LOTS of MONEY), the WHOLE UNIVERSE will be FREE. The Universe will smile with a big theta-grin, wallowing in its own total freedom. The Universe ITSELF will have attained ITS OWN ETERNITY! :happydance:

Oh, also numbnuts, this "sector" is defined as the closest 27 solar systems. Geez, what is so hard to understand about THAT!!!! :duh:

This is the "sector" where the nasty Xenu committed his immense 4th dynamic overt and laid in the horrible 4th dynamic engram that still effects us all to this day (and forever until ALL make it up and out the top of Ron's glorious Bridge to Total Freedom). Apparently only THIS sector suffers from the Xenu-effect. I learned from a high-level secret channeling session last week that these other sectors have their own unique "4th dynamic engrams" to deal with, thus making OT Levels I-VII different for them. But, the Bridge below and above those sections are the same, since they apply to ALL SPIRITUAL BEINGS everywhere.

Ron was one of SEVEN chosen to bring the "truth" to all planets. This Grand Design involves a long-standing Cosmic Battle, but the good hats WILL WIN.

Realize that once a certain spiritual momentum is realized by so many people and planets having successfully availed themselves of Ron's amazing "tech", a "theta-level" will be reached where a sort of "Scientology Snow Ball Effect" occurs. The THETA will reach a "critical mass" where it will explode out with a Joy and Wonder never before seen, and all non-theta people will, well for lack of a better term, simply fall down and DIE their last horrible death as part of the New Order. All naysayers will quickly drop their bodies and become the stones and cinders they have chosen to be - by refusing to help Ron help others help us each get up the Bridge!

Comparing Ron's gift of Scientology to a lowly MESTY infomercial like those promoting Tony Little's fitness machines or the newest "slicer and dicer" is just so, ummmm, so, well SUPPRESSIVE!~!!!!!! :omg:

Luckily, when Scientology finally succeeds, the decent peoples of the world won't have to deal with the negative energy of jokers and degraders like YOU! :unsure: :nervous: :ohmy:

(Note: For the dumb, not-too-bright, and/or still overly indoctrinated, the above is dramatic sarcasm). :biggrin:
 

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You fucktard, Ron is only STARTING with this sector.

As his Highest Holiness Hubbie Hubbard has taught us, everything must be achieved on a gradient!

So, we start here on Earth. We get into some communities, we expand out into larger and larger areas. We do as Ron said and we expand our spheres of responsibility and cause OUT into the world. We move UP and take control of the higher dynamics. Just like Ron explained to us. We "clear" the mind, body and soul of negative disbelievers like yourself, so that with a UNIFIED group of similarly-minded people, our postulates with finally supercede all and manifest as the "new mechanics of tomorrow". Ron's dream, our dream, MY dream, will become the NEW REALITY.

Also, as we all known, as Capt Bill has informed us, there were 5, 6 or 7 OTHER projects beugn on OTHER planets where Scientology has also been introduced by the Planning Division of the Grand Overloads. Each of these will also expand out into their worlds. As each grows past their own planets, they will all meet, finally having fully addresed and handled THIS SECTOR. It is like the analogy where Ron tells us how the orgs are like islands, that each grow until all the islands connect together as a NEW CONTINENT of peace, knowledge and understanding. The same will happen with the various Scientology Projects that exist on these planets.

Then, in a joyous moment of sector harmony, all will move to expand out into the remaining sectors of the Universe, bringing Ron's dream to all freedom-loving beings everywhere!

Finally, after much hard work and dedicated shoulder-to-shoulder hip-hip-hooraying (and LOTS and LOTS of MONEY), the WHOLE UNIVERSE will be FREE. The Universe will smile with a big theta-grin, wallowing in its own total freedom. The Universe ITSELF will have attained ITS OWN ETERNITY! :happydance:

Oh, also numbnuts, this "sector" is defined as the closest 27 solar systems. Geez, what is so hard to understand about THAT!!!! :duh:

This is the "sector" where the nasty Xenu committed his immense 4th dynamic overt and laid in the horrible 4th dynamic engram that still effects us all to this day (and forever until ALL make it up and out the top of Ron's glorious Bridge to Total Freedom). Apparently only THIS sector suffers from the Xenu-effect. I learned from a high-level secret channeling session last week that these other sectors have their own unique "4th dynamic engrams" to deal with, thus making OT Levels I-VII different for them. But, the Bridge below and above those sections are the same, since they apply to ALL SPIRITUAL BEINGS everywhere.

Ron was one of SEVEN chosen to bring the "truth" to all planets. This Grand Design involves a long-standing Cosmic Battle, but the good hats WILL WIN.

Realize that once a certain spiritual momentum is realized by so many people and planets having successfully availed themselves of Ron's amazing "tech", a "theta-level" will be reached where a sort of "Scientology Snow Ball Effect" occurs. The THETA will reach a "critical mass" where it will explode out with a Joy and Wonder never before seen, and all non-theta people will, well for lack of a better term, simply fall down and DIE their last horrible death as part of the New Order. All naysayers will quickly drop their bodies and become the stones and cinders they have chosen to be - by refusing to help Ron help others help us each get up the Bridge!

Comparing Ron's gift of Scientology to a lowly MESTY infomercial like those promoting Tony Little's fitness machines or the newest "slicer and dicer" is just so, ummmm, so, well SUPPRESSIVE!~!!!!!! :omg:

Luckily, when Scientology finally succeeds, the decent peoples of the world won't have to deal with the negative energy of jokers and degraders like YOU! :unsure: :nervous: :ohmy:

(Note: For the dumb, not-too-bright, and/or still overly indoctrinated, the above is dramatic sarcasm). :biggrin:


At first I wasn't buying into what you were saying but then after you called me fucktard and numb nuts, I cogged that you must have major altitude.

I would love to get a rundown myself in order to achieve Homo Altitudinous.

Please accept my apology for doubting your revelations about the divine message of peace, love & understanding brought to earth by Dr. Hubbard.
 

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:unsure: Alrighty Gadfly, seeing you put it like that I'll just take myself off to the nearest org and get started. Woohoo!

One little question:
Oh, also numbnuts, this "sector" is defined as the closest 27 solar systems. Geez, what is so hard to understand about THAT!!!! :duh:

Was that the closest 27 solar systems now, or 75 million years ago because some of them might have gone boom-goodbye from supernova and the like.

Also, do these solar systems include those with life or can we count the ones that are just rock and gas circling a star?

What do we do with the life that doesn't have hands do we have instructions on how to strap the cans on?

Another quick question, why did Xenu have to fly all the way here to chuck people in volcanoes. Didn't they have volcanoes there? Or some closer?

Or they could have just placed the interstellar travelling DC8-like spaceship on auto-pilot and flown into the sun, or a close by star. Saved the hassle of a round trip and the expense of fuel?

Thank you Mr Gadfly sir, can't wait to talk to you some more about all this awesome stuff.

ml,
Mog.
 

Gadfly

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At first I wasn't buying into what you were saying but then after you called me fucktard and numb nuts, I cogged that you must have major altitude.

I would love to get a rundown myself in order to achieve Homo Altitudinous.

Please accept my apology for doubting your revelations about the divine message of peace, love & understanding brought to earth by Dr. Hubbard.

Well, before YOU can get any auditing rundowns to help you achieve the states of certainty necessary to realize full Homo Altitudinous you will first have to clean up your piss-ass poor ethics. You have a long proven record and history of working hard against Mankind's spiritual freedom.

Sorry, but a simple apology from you is not sufficient. It will be working from Confusion on up through Liability - THREE TIMES! And, if you are not already declared a suppressive person, which you SHOULD be, you must walk into your nearest Org, tell them WHO you are, and then wait for your SP Declare Order. Once you receive it, THEN you can do what will be a VERY stringent A-E.

See, as Ron also taught us, one must properly spot the correct condition if one is to be able to address and handle it with the proper and relevant LRH tech. In YOUR case, the ONLY tech that will apply for a very long time to come is ETHICS TECH. You should start liquidating all of your possessions now, sell off all stocks and life insurance, and save up for a BIG DONATION to the only group on the planet that is actually working hard to reverse the dwindling spiral.

Making up the damage will be long and arduous for YOU, because the INT Data Base has NUMEROUS Knowledge Reports from MANY caring current and ex-Scientologists who have been led astray by your "humor", which they accidentally came across while innocently surfing the Net.

Joking about Ron and clearing this degraded planet would be like joking about Mother Theresa and starving children. :omg:

So, as a first step you must STOP COMMITTING PRESENT TIME OVERTS, which is what each of you degraded DBs on ESMB should do, by speaking out in public here on ESMB about Scientology and Dr. Hubbard. Every post you place on ESMB is a step backwards for the realization of peace, love & understanding on Earth! How can you NOT see and know that? :nervous: :unsure: :confused2:

If you don't straighten up and knock off the out-ethics very soon, you will be the very fist to receive the newest "award" for the "eternal downstat" - Homo Degradus.

Yes, the door is left open a crack for even YOU, but realize that you will need a VERY LARGE DOOR to be able to push through all of the money that YOU will have to donate to even start to making up the damage YOU have caused Ron's worthy mission.
 
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Gadfly

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:unsure: Alrighty Gadfly, seeing you put it like that I'll just take myself off to the nearest org and get started. Woohoo!

One little question:

Was that the closest 27 solar systems now, or 75 million years ago because some of them might have gone boom-goodbye from supernova and the like.

Also, do these solar systems include those with life or can we count the ones that are just rock and gas circling a star?

What do we do with the life that doesn't have hands do we have instructions on how to strap the cans on?

Another quick question, why did Xenu have to fly all the way here to chuck people in volcanoes. Didn't they have volcanoes there? Or some closer?

Or they could have just placed the interstellar travelling DC8-like spaceship on auto-pilot and flown into the sun, or a close by star. Saved the hassle of a round trip and the expense of fuel?

Thank you Mr Gadfly sir, can't wait to talk to you some more about all this awesome stuff.

ml,
Mog.

You are obviously requesting strange solutions about the materials and displaying confusion. WHAT DO YOUR FUCKING MATERIALS STATE?????? :omg: :ohmy:

WHAT WORD OR SYMBOL HAVE YOU GONE PAST THAT WAS NOT FULLY UNDERSTOOD? :angry: :angry: :angry:

Are you trying to coax me into committing a High Crime by providing you with Verbal Data! I will NOT fall for your sleasy attempt to pull a dedicated follower of Ron off the "clearly taped path" he has provided for us all.

Okay, I will answer one question because the answer is so obvious. Of course they were all flown here to be blown up on Earth's volcanoes, because first, Earth had a reputation as an effective "prison planet", second, to really solve the difficult problem of this sector's over-population, it was thought best to dump them all in ONE PLACE, thus keeping them AWAY from all of the "other places", and third, Xenu has always held a special place in his heart for this beautiful blue orb.

Also, about life forms without hands, the more "advanced civilizations" that have taken and implemented Ron's glorious tech on a wide planetary scale have solved this by permanently implanting small "jacks" into strategic locations on the body, so that the wires to the E-meter can be directly plugged into the life form! No more problems with dry hands, creams or difficult foot pads. Once a planet reaches the advanced stage of total agreement with Ron, then all conscious life forms, who are able to receive auditing, are outfitted with permanent meter connections somewhere in their bodies. Great for the routine Sec Checks and HCO E-meter checks that are always needed to keep the "planet clean".

Though it does make me wonder. If ALL the thetans were collected and taken HERE to Earth, squashed together and then compacted in Xenu's implant machinery, how could there be ANY others on ANY other planet who suffer from the clustering? Shouldn't this condition and OT III - VII handling apply ONLY to Earth? Since they were all brought here in the cute DC8s? Just sayin' . . . . :confused2:

I'M SORRY. My bad. I am reporting to Qual immediately to clear my MUs and handle any disagreement that I might have with the materials! :duh:
 

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You are obviously requesting strange solutions about the materials and displaying confusion. WHAT DO YOUR FUCKING MATERIALS STATE?????? :omg: :ohmy:

WHAT WORD OR SYMBOL HAVE YOU GONE PAST THAT WAS NOT FULLY UNDERSTOOD? :angry: :angry: :angry:

Are you trying to coax me into committing a High Crime by providing you with Verbal Data! I will NOT fall for your sleasy attempt to pull a dedicated follower of Ron off the "clearly taped path" he has provided for us all.


OOH I just LOVE a man with such ALTITUDE. If I ask more questions will you get angry again...:blush:
:biglove::rose::biglove:



:dieslaughing:
 

Gadfly

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It's the funkiest, freakiest infomercial ever!

The sales pitch is so long, they have to break it up into segments and give it to you over decades.

What are they selling you?

Your Eternity

Can anybody actually give me a clue what they are talking about? I'm not kidding.

I have absolutely no idea.

And Scientologists don't either, but they talk about it all the time.

And threaten to take it away from you if you don't obey their orders.

What the hell does Scientology have to do with "eternity" other than they use the word a lot?

OK, let me try to answer the original question (instead of getting off on severe J & D tangents - which ARE fun in their own right).

Well, I always understood it to mean "my condition as a thetan" throughout the REST of my unavoidable "eternity".

Hubbard mentions in a few LRH EDs and other places that this "eternity will find you either in good shape or bad". He mentions that he has seen what happens to the folks who do NOT take advantage of his Bridge - they end up unconscious, as cinders, dying painful deaths over and over, alone in the dark forever.

The idea is that you are going to exist no matter what. The idea is that you already ARE an "eternal being" (or at least part of such a thing). But, due to your own many past postulates, considerations and agreements, along the Eight Dynamics, you have CREATED your own limitations, weaknesses, disabilites and unawareness. Strangely, that aligns with other Vedic views, and may not actually be that far from the "truth". :confused2:

What Hubbard & Scientology push, which is also similar to Vedic ideas in certain regards, is the notion that the universe is "getting worse" (Kali Yuga of the Vedas - last, most degraded stage), and that unless you do something extra and added, unless YOU take a personal initiative to address and handle what it is about YOURSELF that allows you to continue along with the momentum of the rest of "sinking humanity", you will NOT end up well. Though in Vedic views, it always recycles. It ends and just starts all over again, cycling through the four Yugas. So, nobody EVER ends up "alone suffering forever". All IS change, incuding any temporary pain and suffering (from the Vedic view).

In pure Scientology terms, the basic assumption is that the awareness of any person, and of all Mankind taken as a whole, is reducing - thus the "dwindling spiral". It is getting worse. That tendency will supposedly continue unless corrected by hard personal "work". Hubbard claims to provide a way to address and solve THAT problem for you.

He is not selling you "eternity". He is selling you a way to be "in this eternity" in a "far better state and level of awareness and cause" than you would otherwise. Part of this package deal is the notion of "Total Feedom", which is really stupid, because Hubbard himself explains in other places that any thetan would get horribly bored with "total freedom" (at the Top of the Awareness Levels, at the Top of the Tone Scale, No Games Condition, Total Serenity of Beingness, etc.). He also explains in other places that the aim of Scientology is NOT to take you forever out of the game, but to improve your ability to PLAY ANY GAME. Of course, as long as you are in ANY game in this universe, you will probably suffer the effects of birth and death. So, THAT is NOT the same result as Buddha was selling.

As we all know, there are MANY contradictions in Scientology.

I can make some sense of the idea that a spiritual system could or should work to improve a person's awareness and ability, so that his or her future existances might be "better" throughout the "rest of eternity". THAT is what Scientology sells and claims to provide - though, sadly, it doesn't deliver the goods.

The "total freedom" thing is absurd.

In the end I think Hubbard was ALWAYS using his PR tech. These are BUTTONS that get BIG READS. These are ideas with lots of attached emotional energy. He used them because of THAT.

Also, and this is major, the behavior of Scientologists is heavily monitored & controlled so that there is NO DISCUSSION of things like this, other than rah-rah-rah agreement at events, briefings and promo. NO Verbal Data means that NOBODY can share opinions and views about ideas like "total freedom" or "my eternity". In truth, just as you said, if a survey were actually conducted where each person answered HONESTLY, without trying to impress or steer clear of ethics, I am pretty sure that there would be an amazingly WIDE range of ideas about these concepts. In fact, people would have very different ideas about these.

But the fact of differing ideas is never made known to most, because they are NOT allowed to ever discuss it, not with anything other than 100% agreement and enthusiasm for Ron's "pure" statements. In the end you would be told to shut up, sent to ethics, and told to refer to your materials, and to KEEP whatever you think in your OWN SPACE. See, a bunch of subjective views, that are KEPT subjective, never would notice when and if they disagreed with each other. In Scientology "comparing notes" is heavily discouraged. Any confusion or disagreement is addressed in the courseroom, in Qual or in Ethics, and NOT EVER by casual discussion with others.

These ideas are big buttons that each person attaches different meaning and significance to. In the end nobody could possibly agree because there is NO "shared observable reality" for things like"total freedom" or "my eternity". The only common things are Hubbard's general claims and statements. In the end these IDEAS relate and refer to no actual thing, having never been experienced, and have no existance outside of the imagination of a thinking mind. They are IDEAS. They are ONLY ideas. Like a unicorn or Santa Claus, which do not exist outside of fiction and the imaginations of people. Of course, people can talk about Santa Claus, make movies about unicorns, and draw paintings of the Easter Bunny, but they do NOT exist. That is basically what people do when they entertain ideas about Hubbard's "total freedom" or "my eternity".

There are always two aspects, or flip sides to any of this. There is 1) what will happen if you just let nature take its course, which is pain, suffering, eternal damnation, unconsciousness, becoming MEST, losing the ability to cause, and then there is 2) the salvation, the answer, the positive things that will occur if you DO WHAT IS NECESSARY to address and avoid the part outlines in "1".

There is the 1) DOOM AND GLOOM. And then there is 2) how wonderful it all will be if and when you take the necessary actions to create a different future outcome. The same sort of dichotomy exists in Christianity and Islam. And, the FEAR of THREAT of ending up in Hell, or eternally damned, or "alone in the dark forever" is what often acts to motivate people to do whatever is required of the "path to salvation", "road to freedom", or "Bridge to Total Freedom". Fear, and threats of doom and gloom have always been potent forces in nudging along behaviors towards the future ideal, hope and/or utopia.

This involves the metaphotical Yin and Yang of control by religious beliefs. The 1) horrible reality you will experience UNLESS you take advantage of "the path" and redirect to 2) a far better tomorrow.
 
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Sindy

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:unsure: Alrighty Gadfly, seeing you put it like that I'll just take myself off to the nearest org and get started. Woohoo!

One little question:


Was that the closest 27 solar systems now, or 75 million years ago because some of them might have gone boom-goodbye from supernova and the like.

Also, do these solar systems include those with life or can we count the ones that are just rock and gas circling a star?

What do we do with the life that doesn't have hands do we have instructions on how to strap the cans on?

Another quick question, why did Xenu have to fly all the way here to chuck people in volcanoes. Didn't they have volcanoes there? Or some closer?

Or they could have just placed the interstellar travelling DC8-like spaceship on auto-pilot and flown into the sun, or a close by star. Saved the hassle of a round trip and the expense of fuel?

Thank you Mr Gadfly sir, can't wait to talk to you some more about all this awesome stuff.

ml,
Mog.

If only Xenu had had the good fortune of knowing Scientology Admin Tech. He would have seen the various "outpoints" in his depopulation mini-program. He really didn't think things through.

Personally, and of course this is just my opinion, seeing that eternal batteries existed even back in Xenu's day, why not employ those to eternally trap all of mankind? It just seems so much cleaner, more efficient, and totally hands free. Why involve the enormous amount of planes, alcohol and glycol that must have been necessary?

Possibly I'm just thinking too gosh darn hard about this and certainly Xenu has had time, now, to see the error of his ways. I apologize to the universe and its galactic warlords if my Monday Morning Quarterbacking seems a bit pompous.
 

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Imagine the utter foolishness of trusting Scientology to "Safeguard Your Eternity" when the Founder could not even safeguard his own wife and son from federal prison and suicide.

Consider the utter absurdity of relying on Scientology to protect your "Eternity" when they can't even protect their own elite SO members from being held captive, psychologically tortured and physically beaten.

Try to conceive of the utter stupidity of believing that Scientologists have your "Your Eternity" when all they really have is some fancy buildings bought by defrauding their own parishioners.

To be fair, real estate is not all that Scientology has--they also have the well-deserved reputation as the world's most hated and ridiculed religion.

Yeah, considering the amazing results they are getting for themselves, I think Scientologists are definitely the people I would like to manage my personal Eternity. LOLOL
 

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If only Xenu had had the good fortune of knowing Scientology Admin Tech. He would have seen the various "outpoints" in his depopulation mini-program. He really didn't think things through.

Personally, and of course this is just my opinion, seeing that eternal batteries existed even back in Xenu's day, why not employ those to eternally trap all of mankind? It just seems so much cleaner, more efficient, and totally hands free. Why involve the enormous amount of planes, alcohol and glycol that must have been necessary?

Possibly I'm just thinking too gosh darn hard about this and certainly Xenu has had time, now, to see the error of his ways. I apologize to the universe and its galactic warlords if my Monday Morning Quarterbacking seems a bit pompous.


Wouldn't it have been so much easier for Xenu to solve overpopulation by simply using Ron's 2nd Dynamic tech and issuing a single policy like they have in the Sea Org prohibiting having children? No kids = No overpopulation.

As a matter of fact, Xenu could have done what Ron did, enforce a bulletin on "Pain & Sex" and send everyone to Ethics to do lower conditions and amends for having sex or jerking off. Then most of the people in that overpopulated sector would have left on their own volition, just like Scientologists who voluntarily blow Scientology.

Ron actually did have workable tech to get rid of overpopulation. Ever notice that Scientology orgs are a virtual ghost town?
 
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