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29 years out today and still going strong

Petey C

Silver Meritorious Patron
About this time 29 years ago today, I stepped off the Qantas plane in Sydney to a blinding sun and big blue skies. A few days earlier I had escaped from the Sea Org and Happy Valley.

Three months before that, I’d been called to Int from The Complex (as it’s now known, then known as PAC) for an unspecified reason following a sec check. You’d think that after eight years in the SO I would have guessed what was in store for me, but I naively thought I was going to be exonerated for whatever the unknown crimes were that had taken me off post a few weeks earlier. What was in store for me was a giant comm ev, hard labour in the fields of Int, and weeks of being woken up in the middle of the night to be harangued by Scientology’s lawyers and executives and forced to confess my crimes and high crimes. As there were none – apart from a tendency to kick against authority and to think my own thoughts – this became an exhausting process. In the relative calm of Happy Valley, stuck there with a dozen or so senior executives, I wondered what I was going to do next and how I would achieve it since I had no money, no way of getting back to LA to get my passport, and pretty much no idea of where I was exactly other than two hours out of LA.

My buddy’s young daughter, who had been separated from her mother for months, arrived at Happy Valley. Their wonderful reunion meant I had to find another buddy. Luckily I did; someone who I trusted enough to confide in, to tell about my desire to leave. Even luckier, he felt the same way and had the connections (damaging inside knowledge) and resources (i.e. money) to negotiate his own and my release. His occurred almost immediately, and before he was taken away he managed to slip me $5 and his brother’s phone number. I was taken back to Happy Valley and spent the next few days in isolation, refusing to do my chores (cooking, mainly) and waiting all dressed up and packed to be taken away. Only Kerry Gleeson tried to talk me out of leaving.

Eventually a van arrived and I was ordered in. Yes, even at the last moment, no civility was due to a pariah like me, but a pariah only because someone had deemed I was an enemy of the church. (By then, it was true.) I got in and off we drove into the evening. The driver told me he was taking me to the airport. I protested, saying that all my things including my passport were at The Complex. He shouted back nastily, saying he didn’t care, his orders were to take me to the airport. I was sitting in the back of the van, so I made my way into the front seat and eyeballed him. I was enraged. Look, I said, I’m going to start shouting out the window that I’m being kidnapped by Scientologists. Somebody’s going to call the police. Is that what you want? He growled and took me to The Complex where I had about 10 minutes to rush to my room, pick up my two suitcases and one box, and get to a phone to call my family collect. Get me a ticket, I said, I can’t answer questions but I’m on my way to the airport. I’ll call again from there.
Back in the van I tugged off my filthy jeans (I’d been wearing them for three months). Fuck you, Scientology! I screamed as I threw them out the window.

I got dumped outside the airport, even though I asked the driver to wait till I went inside the terminal to get a baggage cart. Luckily (again), my pitiful possessions were intact on the sidewalk, even though it was now dark. Inside, I got my ticket and checked my luggage. I had $5 and a phone number. I got a soda and some change, and called my number – and got voicemail. I left my message – I’m at the Qantas terminal at LAX and the plane leaves tomorrow morning. I spent the next few hours trying to stay alert though I was almost weeping with fear and relief. Towards midnight the terminal emptied and I started panicking. What if my friend didn’t show up? I became aware of a man following me as I moved from gate to gate, trying to stay with groups of people for safety. As the gates closed, I ran down the escalator thinking I could just stay close to the ticketing desks. I found them all closed and the silent. The man was coming down the escalator, his eye on me. I knew he could smell my vulnerability. Terrified, I ran outside onto the roadside and saw him following me. I turned my head and saw my friend, jauntily coming down the sidewalk towards me, a pair of ridiculous yellow sunglasses on, despite the fact it was midnight. I have never been so glad to see someone.

We got drunk and I missed my plane. (As you do.) But I did get on the plane a day or so later and then, on the 26th, landed in Sydney where I was met by my mother and sister.

They told me their part of the story yesterday over Christmas lunch. They had received the call one evening. They were stunned but exhilarated, and rushed around trying to find a travel agent that was open. Only my brother held a credit card – unlimited. Thank god for Amex! When I arrived home, I didn’t want to talk about anything. They said, you were determined to put it behind you and all you wanted to do was go forward. You didn’t tell us much; we didn’t want to upset you by asking. In truth, I was too ashamed about what had happened to me.

All of these years later, I carry those times with me like a scar on my body. It doesn’t hurt any more, but the scar tissue remains to remind me. Since then, like many others here I’ve sworn to help anyone I can to leave a cult and start over. I’m determined to be a witness about the dangers of Scientology and other cults. Today I celebrate being alive, being free, and being wiser than I was. And from the bottom of my heart I thank old and new friends, who helped me in a thousand ways along the journey, and whose kindnesses and insights have shown me the nature of humanity.
 

Dilettante

Patron Meritorious
I got chills when you mentioned the three songs in an earlier post, this just gives a fuller picture of what it was like. I can also guess there are MANY details you may not be able fit but your mind set is clear. So glad you made it back.
Dil
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
My God! That story brought back many memories of my tour-of-duty in the Sea Org. It reminds me of--

The stark meanness and petty spitefulness of the Sea Org with all the little Sea-Org-ites doing their best impersonations of the Commodore so he would be proud of them and take them with to Scientology heaven.

Sometimes the big moments are too crazy to take in--like being kidnapped and assigned meaningless manual labor in an isolated and guarded prison reform camp. It often comes thundering home in the small moments, like when I read about your being "ordered" to get in the van as though the Scientologists were determined to inflict their savage militarisitic control on your leaving--as if it was their decision and 'determinism' that you should leave rather than your own. Even that brief moment of contempt shown to you betrays the profound immaturity and insecurity of these cult members that they must somehow cling to any vestige of "causation" even when it is YOU that has told THEM that you are leaving!

Or that moment in the van when they barked at you that you are going to the airport even though your personal possessions and passport are in another place. It would take a lot for a public Scientologist to really understand how crazy the organization is that they have devoted their life to if they have never experienced the unfiltered madness of L. Ron Hubbard up close and personal.

I know (dear Scientologists and Indie Scientologists) it was not Ron driving that van. But, did you know that it WAS Ron driving that van in every way conceivable way even though his hands were not literally on the steering wheel?

It's why people like Charles Manson are locked up in prison for life--not because he personally murdered anyone, but because he conspired and caused others to commit those heinous crimes.

And, apologies to Indies. No, it was not David Miscavige driving the van. It was Ron Hubbard. And mankind's greatest friend is still driving the van today.

And what ever happened to gung-ho-Es-Oh-Ass-hole Kerry Gleason? Oops, that's not very Christmassy of me, was it? LOL
 

Petey C

Silver Meritorious Patron
My God! That story brought back many memories of my tour-of-duty in the Sea Org.

The stark meanness and petty spitefulness of the Sea Org with all the little Sea-Org-ites doing their best impersonations of the Commodore so he would be proud of them and take them with to Scientology heaven.

Sometimes the big moments are too crazy to take in--like being kidnapped and assigned meaningless manual labor in an isolated and guarded prison reform camp. It often comes thundering home in the small moments, like when I read about your being "ordered" to get in the van as though the Scientologists were determined to inflict their contemptible control on your leaving--as if it was their decision and 'determinism' that you should leave rather than your own. Even that brief moment of contempt shown to you betrays the profound immaturity and insecurity of these cult members that they must somehow cling to any vestige of "causation" even when it is YOU that has told THEM that you are leaving!

Or that moment in the van when they barked at you that you are going to the airport even though your personal possessions and passport are in another place. It would take a lot for a public Scientologist to really understand how crazy the organization is that they have devoted their life to if they have never experienced the unfiltered madness of L. Ron Hubbard up close and personal.

I know (dear Scientologists and Indie Scientologists) it was not Ron driving that van. But, did you know that it WAS Ron driving that van in every way conceivable way even though his hands were not literally on the steering wheel?

It's why people like Charles Manson are locked up in prison for life--not because he personally murdered anyone, but because he conspired and caused others to commit those heinous crimes.

And, apologies to Indies. No, it was not David Miscavige driving the van. It was Ron Hubbard. And mankind's greatest friend is still driving the van today.

And what ever happened to gung-ho-Es-Oh-Ass-hole Kerry Gleason? Oops, that's not very Christmassy of me, was it? LOL

You're right, HH. In some ways, the imprisonment -- by MY OWN PEOPLE! -- was too large to take in. But the petty meanness of being ordered around and being dumped and having to argue to get my passport has stuck with me as icons of the insane and tyrannical nature of the beast and all who ride on it.

What happened to KG? If you google him, you'll see he's in Florida (Boca?) and running some sort of PEP business as he has been for years. I think he and Jill and Brooke went to Sweden or Denmark, wherever Jill came from, for a while and then settled back in the USA. Still selling Scientology.

You're so right. It was Ron driving the van. That's a great way to look at it. :yes:
 

HelluvaHoax!

Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on
--snipped--

You're so right. It was Ron driving the van. That's a great way to look at it. :yes:


Ron can't literally do everything.

But we each do what we can to 'wear Ron's hat' and 'help Ron achieve his dreams'.

Pretty good deal, if you ask me. We get to pay a half million dollars and work for a billion years to help someone else achieve their dreams.

Scientology. It's too crazy to try to understand. Because it's not meant to be understood, it's meant to be obeyed.
 

Opter

Silver Meritorious Patron
Thank you for telling part of your story.:)


What an insane asylum Scientology is. At least in a real insane asylum,they treat the patients with more respect.:omg:


Opter
 

Mest Lover

Not Sea Org Qualified
About this time 29 years ago today, I stepped off the Qantas plane in Sydney to a blinding sun and big blue skies. A few days earlier I had escaped from the Sea Org and Happy Valley.

God bless your freedom day, how sweet it is when it finds you.
 

Dukat

Patron with Honors
Thanks for sharing your story Petey. I especially liked how you said, "I’ve sworn to help anyone I can to leave a cult and start over. I’m determined to be a witness about the dangers of Scientology and other cults."

You're a good person. All the best to you in 2012!
 

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Petey - great telling of an epic story!! So glad you are out - and very happy to be back in touch with an old friend!
 

DagwoodGum

Squirreling Dervish
About this time 29 years ago today, I stepped off the Qantas plane in Sydney to a blinding sun and big blue skies. A few days earlier I had escaped from the Sea Org and Happy Valley.

Three months before that, I’d been called to Int from The Complex (as it’s now known, then known as PAC) for an unspecified reason following a sec check. You’d think that after eight years in the SO I would have guessed what was in store for me, but I naively thought I was going to be exonerated for whatever the unknown crimes were that had taken me off post a few weeks earlier. What was in store for me was a giant comm ev, hard labour in the fields of Int, and weeks of being woken up in the middle of the night to be harangued by Scientology’s lawyers and executives and forced to confess my crimes and high crimes. As there were none – apart from a tendency to kick against authority and to think my own thoughts – this became an exhausting process. In the relative calm of Happy Valley, stuck there with a dozen or so senior executives, I wondered what I was going to do next and how I would achieve it since I had no money, no way of getting back to LA to get my passport, and pretty much no idea of where I was exactly other than two hours out of LA.

My buddy’s young daughter, who had been separated from her mother for months, arrived at Happy Valley. Their wonderful reunion meant I had to find another buddy. Luckily I did; someone who I trusted enough to confide in, to tell about my desire to leave. Even luckier, he felt the same way and had the connections (damaging inside knowledge) and resources (i.e. money) to negotiate his own and my release. His occurred almost immediately, and before he was taken away he managed to slip me $5 and his brother’s phone number. I was taken back to Happy Valley and spent the next few days in isolation, refusing to do my chores (cooking, mainly) and waiting all dressed up and packed to be taken away. Only Kerry Gleeson tried to talk me out of leaving.

Eventually a van arrived and I was ordered in. Yes, even at the last moment, no civility was due to a pariah like me, but a pariah only because someone had deemed I was an enemy of the church. (By then, it was true.) I got in and off we drove into the evening. The driver told me he was taking me to the airport. I protested, saying that all my things including my passport were at The Complex. He shouted back nastily, saying he didn’t care, his orders were to take me to the airport. I was sitting in the back of the van, so I made my way into the front seat and eyeballed him. I was enraged. Look, I said, I’m going to start shouting out the window that I’m being kidnapped by Scientologists. Somebody’s going to call the police. Is that what you want? He growled and took me to The Complex where I had about 10 minutes to rush to my room, pick up my two suitcases and one box, and get to a phone to call my family collect. Get me a ticket, I said, I can’t answer questions but I’m on my way to the airport. I’ll call again from there.
Back in the van I tugged off my filthy jeans (I’d been wearing them for three months). Fuck you, Scientology! I screamed as I threw them out the window.

I got dumped outside the airport, even though I asked the driver to wait till I went inside the terminal to get a baggage cart. Luckily (again), my pitiful possessions were intact on the sidewalk, even though it was now dark. Inside, I got my ticket and checked my luggage. I had $5 and a phone number. I got a soda and some change, and called my number – and got voicemail. I left my message – I’m at the Qantas terminal at LAX and the plane leaves tomorrow morning. I spent the next few hours trying to stay alert though I was almost weeping with fear and relief. Towards midnight the terminal emptied and I started panicking. What if my friend didn’t show up? I became aware of a man following me as I moved from gate to gate, trying to stay with groups of people for safety. As the gates closed, I ran down the escalator thinking I could just stay close to the ticketing desks. I found them all closed and the silent. The man was coming down the escalator, his eye on me. I knew he could smell my vulnerability. Terrified, I ran outside onto the roadside and saw him following me. I turned my head and saw my friend, jauntily coming down the sidewalk towards me, a pair of ridiculous yellow sunglasses on, despite the fact it was midnight. I have never been so glad to see someone.

We got drunk and I missed my plane. (As you do.) But I did get on the plane a day or so later and then, on the 26th, landed in Sydney where I was met by my mother and sister.

They told me their part of the story yesterday over Christmas lunch. They had received the call one evening. They were stunned but exhilarated, and rushed around trying to find a travel agent that was open. Only my brother held a credit card – unlimited. Thank god for Amex! When I arrived home, I didn’t want to talk about anything. They said, you were determined to put it behind you and all you wanted to do was go forward. You didn’t tell us much; we didn’t want to upset you by asking. In truth, I was too ashamed about what had happened to me.

All of these years later, I carry those times with me like a scar on my body. It doesn’t hurt any more, but the scar tissue remains to remind me. Since then, like many others here I’ve sworn to help anyone I can to leave a cult and start over. I’m determined to be a witness about the dangers of Scientology and other cults. Today I celebrate being alive, being free, and being wiser than I was. And from the bottom of my heart I thank old and new friends, who helped me in a thousand ways along the journey, and whose kindnesses and insights have shown me the nature of humanity.
I am very interested in what you have to say as you got out a few years after me. I got on lines in 1972 and saw such a chasm of difference between the promised states of being and what I saw in the eyes of those that returned from L.A. doing advanced courses in admin and tech that my erroneous beliefs succumbed to the factual realities that i witnessed. Thank God I was capable of that, so many were not, and perhaps still are not. I hope you, in particular, continue to fill us in on what it was like for you.
 

Petey C

Silver Meritorious Patron
Mick Wenlock
Re: 29 years out today and still going strong

Petey - great telling of an epic story!! So glad you are out - and very happy to be back in touch with an old friend!

After reading your story, Mick, I think your escape was by far more traumatic, specially with two young kids to look after and no place to go. I was never in any real danger -- the worst that would have happened to me was having to sleep overnight at LAX. So more power to you too, my friend.

I am very interested in what you have to say as you got out a few years after me. I got on lines in 1972 and saw such a chasm of difference between the promised states of being and what I saw in the eyes of those that returned from L.A. doing advanced courses in admin and tech that my erroneous beliefs succumbed to the factual realities that i witnessed. Thank God I was capable of that, so many were not, and perhaps still are not. I hope you, in particular, continue to fill us in on what it was like for you.

Thanks Dagwood -- I did write up a brief version of my story two years ago or so, it was one of the first of my posts on ESMB and if I knew how to, I'd find the link and include it here.

Tell us more of your story too!
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
<snip> Thanks Dagwood -- I did write up a brief version of my story two years ago or so, it was one of the first of my posts on ESMB and if I knew how to, I'd find the link and include it here. <snip>
Click your own 'name' in the upper left corner of every post. Click 'View Forum Posts' and there's a list of all your posts.. I found your very first one:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?10639-New-on-board

Thank's for the escape story! :) - The absolutely biggest WIN I ever had in scientology was escaping!

<edit> (Ah.. FTS beat me to it.. Mmmkaye..)
:yes:
 

vumba

Danielle Chamberlin
You're right, HH. In some ways, the imprisonment -- by MY OWN PEOPLE! -- was too large to take in. But the petty meanness of being ordered around and being dumped and having to argue to get my passport has stuck with me as icons of the insane and tyrannical nature of the beast and all who ride on it.

What happened to KG? If you google him, you'll see he's in Florida (Boca?) and running some sort of PEP business as he has been for years. I think he and Jill and Brooke went to Sweden or Denmark, wherever Jill came from, for a while and then settled back in the USA. Still selling Scientology.

You're so right. It was Ron driving the van. That's a great way to look at it. :yes:
Kerry and Jill have been out for a long time but even today when I see them the restim is still prevalent from how he treated us on the Apollo
 

Cherished

Silver Meritorious Patron
What a marvellous post, Petey. Congratulations on your escape and on getting to the place where you could have that conversation yesterday with your mother and sister.

We got drunk and I missed my plane. (As you do.) But I did get on the plane a day or so later and then, on the 26th, landed in Sydney where I was met by my mother and sister.

They told me their part of the story yesterday over Christmas lunch. They had received the call one evening. They were stunned but exhilarated, and rushed around trying to find a travel agent that was open. Only my brother held a credit card – unlimited. Thank god for Amex! When I arrived home, I didn’t want to talk about anything. They said, you were determined to put it behind you and all you wanted to do was go forward. You didn’t tell us much; we didn’t want to upset you by asking. In truth, I was too ashamed about what had happened to me.
I bet they loved cracking open that secret yesterday and being able to ask you about it now.
 

Petey C

Silver Meritorious Patron
Your story thread: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?16482-My-life-at-FLANZO-Flag-and-Int.

You can go to your (or someone else's) profile and find all the threads or posts you have made.

Yours is a hell of a story, and as mest Lover says, your 'freedom' day is celebrated at Xmas. Nice.

Thanks FTS. I know how to do that, but the question is, how do I do when I'm in the middle of a message? Use the back button? How does someone save the message you're on? (Blush)
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
Just open another window or tab with ESMB in it, find what you wanr, copy it (highlight then Ctrl C), go back to your original (half-written post) window and paste (Ctrl V) it in.
Works for me. :)
 

Zhent

Leakus Maximus
Thanks FTS. I know how to do that, but the question is, how do I do when I'm in the middle of a message? Use the back button? How does someone save the message you're on? (Blush)

Just open in a new browser tab, middle mouse button in Firefox. :)


Edit: Panda beat me to it by 30 seconds :|
 
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