The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

One should also bear in mind that execution is a far far milder punishment than lifelong imprisonment. I would like to see anyone who murders me or my dear loves to be locked into a tiny space and kept there for as long as he can be kept alive for.

But that's just because I have a nasty streak in me sometimes.

At other times and/or in other places, what you say might be true. In the modern day USA life imprisonment may be preferable. With TV, music, gym, conjugal visits and internet access available as well as free medical care, I would choose life imprisonment over execution in a heart beat.
Lakey

 

[Ted]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

At other times and/or in other places, what you say might be true. In the modern day USA life imprisonment may be preferable. With TV, music, gym, conjugal visits and internet access available as well as free medical care, I would choose life imprisonment over execution in a heart beat.
Lakey

What you describe is also preferable to living in an old folks home paid for by one's estate or family.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Dinah Shore hosting Orson Welles in 1979

Welles talking about audiences, and winning them over

[video=youtube;V421bF698sA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V421bF698sA&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Drive In Movies

The Drive In Movie is rapidly disappearing from our landscape.

It's a crying shame.

Borrowing my mother's '63 Chrysler, with the push button transmission shift and the full length front and back seats, it was a perfect drive in car. We snuck people in the trunk, and they emerged through the back seat area. We never had to open the trunk.

There was a certain je ne sais quoi about watching a movie while laying together on the front seat. It certainly beat watching the movie, while sitting on one another's lap in a bucket seat arrangement.

Laurie Noonan and I saw "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" on a rainy night at the El Rancho Drive In. When I reached to pull the speaker to the window, I got the shock of my life. I can still, as I write this, recall vividly, the 110 volts going through my body because the speaker had a short, and the rain allowed me to be the route for the electricity to go to the ground. We found a different place to park, and view the movie.

A girl named Mimi, who saw the movie, thought E.J. Steinke, her then boyfriend, looked like Robert Redford. Everyone else thought he looked more like Sonny Bono.

Laura Hunter took me to four Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Westerns, all together,at the Winchester Drive In in one night. We were there until 4 AM. It was great. The movies were good too.

Barbara and I took her young kids to the Capitola Drive In in her Volvo. While the kids slept in the back seat, we made out in the front. I don't even remember what movies we saw.

Just a few years ago, Teri and I took our grandkids to that drive in. They slept, while we watched the movie. I doubt their kids will ever know a drive in movie.


[video=youtube;IcV-PbcZP_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcV-PbcZP_w[/video]

This next video is a current ad for Carl's Jr. It is so anachronistic. Why would any kid want to eat at Carl's Jr. after seeing this ad of a woman eating a burger at a drive in? Most kids won't even know what a drive in is.


[video=youtube;xdGsKzmCgB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdGsKzmCgB0&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[FoTi]

Re: Drive In Movies

The Drive In Movie is rapidly disappearing from our landscape.

It's a crying shame.

Borrowing my mother's '63 Chrysler, with the push button transmission shift and the full length front and back seats, it was a perfect drive in car. We snuck people in the trunk, and they emerged through the back seat area. We never had to open the trunk.

There was a certain je ne sais quoi about watching a movie while laying together on the front seat. It certainly beat watching the movie, while sitting on one another's lap in a bucket seat arrangement.

Laurie Noonan and I saw "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" on a rainy night at the El Rancho Drive In. When I reached to pull the speaker to the window, I got the shock of my life. I can still, as I write this, recall vividly, the 110 volts going through my body because the speaker had a short, and the rain allowed me to be the route for the electricity to go to the ground. We found a different place to park, and view the movie.

A girl named Mimi, who saw the movie, thought E.J. Steinke, her then boyfriend, looked like Robert Redford. Everyone else thought he looked more like Sonny Bono.

Laura Hunter took me to four Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Westerns, all together,at the Winchester Drive In in one night. We were there until 4 AM. It was great. The movies were good too.

Barbara and I took her young kids to the Capitola Drive In in her Volvo. While the kids slept in the back seat, we made out in the front. I don't even remember what movies we saw.

Just a few years ago, Teri and I took our grandkids to that drive in. They slept, while we watched the movie. I doubt their kids will ever know a drive in movie.


[video=youtube;IcV-PbcZP_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcV-PbcZP_w[/video]

Loved the drive in.

When I was little, in the summertime my folks would go to the drive-in early ... before it got dark. Lots of people were there early with their kids dressed in their jammies, so they would be ready for bed and would go to sleep in the car while their parents were watching the movie. There was a play area up near the screen with sand and stuff to play on for the kids in their jammies. That was fun.

Later, as a teenager, the drive in was a luscious place to go with a date....those were the days....good times....romance. Ah...the memories.

Life was different then....more pleasant, I think. What's happened to this world?

 

[Ted]

Re: Drive In Movies

[video=youtube;IcV-PbcZP_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcV-PbcZP_w[/video]

This next video is a current ad for Carl's Jr. It is so anachronistic. Why would any kid want to eat at Carl's Jr. after seeing this ad of a woman eating a burger at a drive in? Most kids won't even know what a drive in is.


[video=youtube;xdGsKzmCgB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdGsKzmCgB0&feature=player_embedded[/video][/QUOTE]


Say, where can a fella get one of those... er.. ah... Carl's Juniors?

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: Drive In Movies

The Drive In Movie is rapidly disappearing from our landscape.

It's a crying shame.

Borrowing my mother's '63 Chrysler, with the push button transmission shift and the full length front and back seats, it was a perfect drive in car. We snuck people in the trunk, and they emerged through the back seat area. We never had to open the trunk.

There was a certain je ne sais quoi about watching a movie while laying together on the front seat. It certainly beat watching the movie, while sitting on one another's lap in a bucket seat arrangement.

Laurie Noonan and I saw "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" on a rainy night at the El Rancho Drive In. When I reached to pull the speaker to the window, I got the shock of my life. I can still, as I write this, recall vividly, the 110 volts going through my body because the speaker had a short, and the rain allowed me to be the route for the electricity to go to the ground. We found a different place to park, and view the movie.

A girl named Mimi, who saw the movie, thought E.J. Steinke, her then boyfriend, looked like Robert Redford. Everyone else thought he looked more like Sonny Bono.

Laura Hunter took me to four Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Westerns, all together,at the Winchester Drive In in one night. We were there until 4 AM. It was great. The movies were good too.

Barbara and I took her young kids to the Capitola Drive In in her Volvo. While the kids slept in the back seat, we made out in the front. I don't even remember what movies we saw.

Just a few years ago, Teri and I took our grandkids to that drive in. They slept, while we watched the movie. I doubt their kids will ever know a drive in movie.


[video=youtube;IcV-PbcZP_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcV-PbcZP_w[/video]

This next video is a current ad for Carl's Jr. It is so anachronistic. Why would any kid want to eat at Carl's Jr. after seeing this ad of a woman eating a burger at a drive in? Most kids won't even know what a drive in is.


[video=youtube;xdGsKzmCgB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdGsKzmCgB0&feature=player_embedded[/video]

The first drive in I ever went to was a Blondie and Dagwood movie with my parents taking us. Clarence Rockaway and I were in our pajamas. Another early one was "Ma and Pa Kettle on the Farm" around 1951. The only line I remember was that someone asked Ma Kettle if she liked Tchaikowsky and she answered, "No, I don't eat any of those Hawaiin dishes".

In 1954, with Clarence and I age 14 and 11 respectively, a married couple who were friends of my parents had just perchased a brand new 1954 Mercury and invited our family to go to the drive in with them. The lady was from Switzerland and offered coffee to Clarence and I. I did not like it and spit mine out. We saw a movie which co starred Vera Ellen. It featured a lot of dancing and she was wearing an extremely short skirt . The man of the other couple with us commented afterward how beautiful Vera Ellen's legs were. I was already past puberty and had noticed that while watching the first dance.

I'll try and find that move on youtube and link to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIgBLtI6sRY&feature=fvst

This clip is from the 1954 movie White Christmas which I'm pretty sure is the movie we saw but I remember her in a black skirt and not a yellow one but there were a lot of dance numbers in that movie. Its amazing, seeing those great legs at age 14 and never forgetting them now some 58 years later.
Lakey

 

[Moosejewels]

Re: Drive In Movies

Say, where can a fella get one of those... er.. ah... Carl's Juniors?

That Car's Junior ad was disgusting. Got any more ?

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Re: Drive In Movies

That Car's Junior ad was disgusting. Got any more ?

Kate Upton, is the cover model on Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit edition.

[video=youtube;U62stubaal4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U62stubaal4[/video]

[video]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012_swimsuit/video/kate-upton.html[/video]

[video=youtube;jBsPZV14I-k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBsPZV14I-k&ob=av2e[/video]

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Re: Drive In Movies

The Drive In Movie is rapidly disappearing from our landscape.

It's a crying shame.

Borrowing my mother's '63 Chrysler, with the push button transmission shift and the full length front and back seats, it was a perfect drive in car. We snuck people in the trunk, and they emerged through the back seat area. We never had to open the trunk.

There was a certain je ne sais quoi about watching a movie while laying together on the front seat. It certainly beat watching the movie, while sitting on one another's lap in a bucket seat arrangement.

Laurie Noonan and I saw "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" on a rainy night at the El Rancho Drive In. When I reached to pull the speaker to the window, I got the shock of my life. I can still, as I write this, recall vividly, the 110 volts going through my body because the speaker had a short, and the rain allowed me to be the route for the electricity to go to the ground. We found a different place to park, and view the movie.

A girl named Mimi, who saw the movie, thought E.J. Steinke, her then boyfriend, looked like Robert Redford. Everyone else thought he looked more like Sonny Bono.

Laura Hunter took me to four Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Westerns, all together,at the Winchester Drive In in one night. We were there until 4 AM. It was great. The movies were good too.

Barbara and I took her young kids to the Capitola Drive In in her Volvo. While the kids slept in the back seat, we made out in the front. I don't even remember what movies we saw.

Just a few years ago, Teri and I took our grandkids to that drive in. They slept, while we watched the movie. I doubt their kids will ever know a drive in movie.


[video=youtube;IcV-PbcZP_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcV-PbcZP_w[/video]

Loved the drive in.

When I was little, in the summertime my folks would go to the drive-in early ... before it got dark. Lots of people were there early with their kids dressed in their jammies, so they would be ready for bed and would go to sleep in the car while their parents were watching the movie. There was a play area up near the screen with sand and stuff to play on for the kids in their jammies. That was fun.

Later, as a teenager, the drive in was a luscious place to go with a date....those were the days....good times....romance. Ah...the memories.

Life was different then....more pleasant, I think. What's happened to this world?

[video=youtube;eqmoAyVcLlE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqmoAyVcLlE[/video]

the post war (WWII) years were rather nice.

I remember going for popcorn at the drive in, as a tyke. It was a safe adventure.

What happened?

I'd be inclined to say that the politicians, across the globe, found ways to spend more than the respective governments took in. This lead to inflation and higher taxes. That lead to more hours to work, and less quality of life for everyone.

"Pay as you go." is not the way to get re elected.

 

[RogerB]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

One should also bear in mind that execution is a far far milder punishment than lifelong imprisonment. I would like to see anyone who murders me or my dear loves to be locked into a tiny space and kept there for as long as he can be kept alive for.

But that's just because I have a nasty streak in me sometimes.

Yes, well . . . I was going to answer Lakey's invite to comment on how murderers were dealt with by commenting that they were dealt with REACTIVELY!

Not a lot of thought, just reaction and often with hatred.

But I think you beat me to the punch

The rest is all a matter of folks venting their opinions and various degrees of "kindness versus hatred or couldn't care-lessness."

R

 

[Ted]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Yes, well . . . I was going to answer Lakey's invite to comment on how murderers were dealt with by commenting that they were dealt with REACTIVELY!

Not a lot of thought, just reaction and often with hatred.

But I think you beat me to the punch

The rest is all a matter of folks venting their opinions and various degrees of "kindness versus hatred or couldn't care-lessness."

R

Which is to say, not enough love.

But are we setup to exude love?

I think yes, and no. As the videos below will help to clarify, we are in a transition stage.

Alan Walter had an observation and a tech for addressing environments (with terminals) that created an individual in an undesirable image or thing. Roger could give an overview or statement of the exact name of this tech. Causative beings create or manage their environments, the environment feeds back as created by self and others to create the individual until the matrix is broken.

It is no wonder that our ghettos are riddled with crime. A kid doesn't have much of a chance for a breakout. It is no wonder when we send freshmen to Washington expecting some change, then end up going "WTF?" as the system sucks them up.

Check this out. It's pertinent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmXJyZoaz20&feature=related

And:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkLJ8wk0Ipw&feature=channel_video_title

 

[Ted]

The Senator (tree)

I like things, from life and relationships to machinery, that last a long time. Usually I think that our supposed problems with overpopulation are really problems and weaknesses in management/government. The situation below gives me cause to think that maybe we are overpopulated. The tree in question is out of the way. It would take some effort to reach. Then again, if drugs were legal there would have been no need to go far out of the way to hide in their use.

The tree in question is immediately down the road from where I live:

The Senator (tree)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Senator was the oldest pond cypress tree in the world, located in Big Tree Park, Longwood, Florida. At the time of its demise, it was 125 feet (38 m) tall, with a trunk diameter of 17.5 feet (5.3 m). The tree fell due to a fire on January 16, 2012.

History
The Seminole Indians and other Native American Indians who lived throughout Central Florida used this tree as a landmark. In the late 19th century, the tree attracted visitors even though much of the surrounding land was swamp; reaching the tree was done by leaping from log to log. A walkway was later constructed by the Works Progress Administration. In 1925, a hurricane destroyed the top of the tree, reducing its original height of 165 feet (50 m) to a height of 118 feet (36 m). The Senator was named for Florida State Senator Moses Overstreet, who donated the tree and surrounding land to Seminole County for a park in 1927. In 1929, former president Calvin Coolidge visited The Senator and dedicated the site with a commemorative bronze plaque. The plaque and portions of an iron fence were stolen by vandals in 1945 and never recovered.

Fire and collapse
On January 16, 2012, a fire was reported at the top of the Senator tree, which burned from the inside out, "like a chimney." Firefighters arrived to try to extinguish the blaze, but the tree collapsed. The charred remains of the tree now stand only 20 to 25 feet (6.1 to 7.6 m) tall.

Arrest
On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, The Division of Forestry said they arrested 26 year old Sara Barnes in relation to the fire of The Senator. Barnes said she regularly went to the tree site to use drugs and lit a fire the night of the fire so she could see but that it got out of control. Officials said they found images of the fire being started on Barnes' laptop and on her cellphone.

Further Information After Fire
Some people believe that the tree is still alive. They have spotted saplings at the base of the big tree. Officials also said that the tree was cloned at one point, and they are searching to bring the clones back.

Statistics
As of 1993, The Senator was estimated to be 3,400-3,600 years old, the 5th oldest tree in the world. The tree's volume had previously been estimated at 4,300 cubic feet (120 m3), but a 2006 survey by Will Blozan of the Native Tree Society has measured the volume at well over 5,100 cubic feet (140 m3), making The Senator not only the largest Pond Cypress in the United States, but also the largest tree of any species east of the Mississippi River.

Neighbor
Located 40 feet (12 m) from where The Senator stood is another old cypress in the same Big Tree Park named Lady Liberty. It is 89 feet (27 m) high 10 feet (3.0 m) in diameter, and is estimated to be 2000 years old; another one of the oldest trees in the world.​

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Yes, well . . . I was going to answer Lakey's invite to comment on how murderers were dealt with by commenting that they were dealt with REACTIVELY!

Not a lot of thought, just reaction and often with hatred.

But I think you beat me to the punch

The rest is all a matter of folks venting their opinions and various degrees of "kindness versus hatred or couldn't care-lessness."

R

"Kindness" did play a role in the dialogue but senior to that was fairness and senior to that would be for legislative bodies to enact laws that are equitable. In our present society, many new laws are being enacted yearly, both at the federal and state levels. Few of these focus on objectivity or optimum equitability. Most are designed to forward some particular law maker's "hobby horse" or to benefit some specific lobbying group's agenda..
Lakey

 

[FoTi]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Sounds like the Senator isn't really dead if there are saplings at the base. I love trees. Long live the Senator!!!

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Code of a Sceintologist - Drastically Rewrtten!

I just visited Claire Swazey's Scientology Forum message board and learned that "THE CODE OF A SCIENTOLOGIST" his been completely rewritten and is now being introduced to people on the latest version of the HQS Course.

Hubbard issued the Code in 1954 and there were a couple of revisions, the last one being in 1973.

The Code had 20 precepts; of those DM kept intact only 1 to 3, totally rewrote 7 through 10 and deleted 11 through 20. Here are the changes, I will write the original item first and follow it with the new item in blue:

#4 I pledge to decry and do all I can to aboliish any and all abuses against life and Mankind. changed to "I pledge to deter to the fullest extent of my power anyone misusing or degrading Scientology to harmful ends."

#5 I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all physically damaging practices in the field of mental health. changed to "I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all physically damaging practices in the field of mental "

#6 I pledge to help clean up and keep clean the field of mental health. changed to "I promise to discourage the abuse of Scientology in the Press."

#7 I pledge to bring about an atmosphere of safety and security in the field of mental health by eradicating its abuses and brutatlity. changed to "I pledge to employ Scientology in the greatest good of the greatest humber of dynamics."

In this set, numbers 4 thru 7, LRH had was more expansive, seeming to shoot for bringing up world standards or standards of all groups worldwide in the items being addressed. DM, on the other hand, focusses only on the Church of Scientology and omits references to any other group or the world at large.

Items 8 thru 10, DM seems directly opposed to LRH's approach. LRH is emphasizing the words "for all" and "humanitarian endeavors". This concepts seems to be repulsive to DM and he seems to go out of his way to totally eliminate them and redirects the new 8 thru 10 to only apply to a course room or auditing room or a dispute with the "uninformed".

#8 I pledge to support humanitarian endeavors in the fields of human rights. changed to "I pledge to render good processing, sound training and good disicpline to those students or peoples entrusted to my care."

#9 I pledge to embrace the policy of equal justice for all. changed to"I pledge to refuse to impart the person secrets of my preclear's

#10 I pledge to work for freedom of speech in the world. changed to "I pledge to engage in no unseemly disputes with the uninformed on the subject of my profession.

THE TEN DELETED ITEMS
#11 To actively decry the suppression of knowledge, wisdom, philosophy or data which would help mankind.
#12 TO SUPPORT THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION
#13 To help Scio orgs and groups ally themselves with public groups.
#14 To teach Scio at a level it can be understood and used by the recipients
#15 To stress the freedom to use Scio as a philosophy in all its applications and variations in the humanities.
#16 To insist upon standard and unvaried Scio as an applied activity in ethics, processing and admin in Scio organizations.
#17 To take my share of responsibility for the impact of Scio upon the world.
#18 To increase the numbers and strength of Scio over the world.
#19 To set an example of the effectiveness and wisdom of Scio.
#20 To make the world a saner, better place.

I am just guessing but probably some staff and a lot of the public and staff, especially the newer public, were bringing up this Code in knowledge reports where they saw that the C of S was not following policy. DM probably just got tired of the Code being used against him and decided to do a total rewrite. You can almost feel his frustration when he changed those items applying to all mankind, the current state of the field, and all people.

The rewrite reveals the loathing and contempt which DM seems to have for ordinary people and the world at large. He had to have balls to delete all such references. Even so, by doing this the subject of Scientology becfomes less attractive to a many public people. Of all the people who joined up with Scientology, a large number were attracted by Hubbard's altruistic statements made in the Code. With those items gone, the Code will be less attractive to many new prospects.

DM therefore decided to withhold the introduction of the Code until people started the HQS course. He proably figured that by that time, the people would have enought wins on HAS and would have made enough new friends that they would stay in even if they weren't turned on by the Code.

The new Code also gives an extremely good look at what DM considers important and what he detests. The Code is a sort of a "battle plan" for what church member will be asked to do as well as what they will not be allowed to do.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Code of a Sceintologist - Drastically Rewrtten!

I just visited Claire Swazey's Scientology Forum message board and learned that "THE CODE OF A SCIENTOLOGIST" his been completely rewritten and is now being introduced to people on the latest version of the HQS Course.

Hubbard issued the Code in 1954 and there were a couple of revisions, the last one being in 1973.

The Code had 20 precepts; of those DM kept intact only 1 to 3, totally rewrote 7 through 10 and deleted 11 through 20. Here are the changes, I will write the original item first and follow it with the new item in blue:

#4 I pledge to decry and do all I can to aboliish any and all abuses against life and Mankind. changed to "I pledge to deter to the fullest extent of my power anyone misusing or degrading Scientology to harmful ends."

#5 I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all physically damaging practices in the field of mental health. changed to "I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all physically damaging practices in the field of mental "

See correction for #5 below - I stated the old precept twice.

#6 I pledge to help clean up and keep clean the field of mental health. changed to "I promise to discourage the abuse of Scientology in the Press."

#7 I pledge to bring about an atmosphere of safety and security in the field of mental health by eradicating its abuses and brutatlity. changed to "I pledge to employ Scientology in the greatest good of the greatest humber of dynamics."

See correction for #7 below. I reversed the old and the new above.


In this set, numbers 4 thru 7, LRH was more expansive, seeming to shoot for bringing up world standards or standards of all groups worldwide in the items being addressed. DM, on the other hand, focusses only on the Church of Scientology and omits references to any other group or the world at large.

Items 8 thru 10, DM seems directly opposed to LRH's approach. LRH is emphasizing the words "for all" and "humanitarian endeavors". This concepts seems to be repulsive to DM and he seems to go out of his way to totally eliminate them and redirects the new 8 thru 10 to only apply to a course room or auditing room or a dispute with the "uninformed".

#8 I pledge to support humanitarian endeavors in the fields of human rights. changed to "I pledge to render good processing, sound training and good disicpline to those students or peoples entrusted to my care."

#9 I pledge to embrace the policy of equal justice for all. changed to"I pledge to refuse to impart the person secrets of my preclear's

#10 I pledge to work for freedom of speech in the world. changed to "I pledge to engage in no unseemly disputes with the uninformed on the subject of my profession.

THE TEN DELETED ITEMS
#11 To actively decry the suppression of knowledge, wisdom, philosophy or data which would help mankind.
#12 To Support the Freedom of Religion. (interesting that DM deleted this one)
#13 To help Scio orgs and groups ally themselves with public groups.
#14 To teach Scio at a level it can be understood and used by the recipients
#15 To stress the freedom to use Scio as a philosophy in all its applications and variations in the humanities.
#16 To insist upon standard and unvaried Scio as an applied activity in ethics, processing and admin in Scio organizations.
#17 To take my share of responsibility for the impact of Scio upon the world.
#18 To increase the numbers and strength of Scio over the world.
#19 To set an example of the effectiveness and wisdom of Scio.
#20 To make the world a saner, better place.

I am just guessing but probably some staff and a lot of the public and staff, especially the newer public, were bringing up this Code in knowledge reports where they saw that the C of S was not following policy. DM probably just got tired of the Code being used against him and decided to do a total rewrite. You can almost feel his frustration when he changed those items applying to all mankind, the current state of the field, and all people to local items for things going on in the Orgs.

The rewrite reveals the loathing and contempt which DM seems to have for ordinary people and the world at large. He had to have balls to delete all such references. Even so, by doing this the subject of Scientology becomes less attractive to many public people. Of all the people who joined up with Scientology, a large number were attracted by Hubbard's altruistic statements made in the Code. With those items gone, the Code will be less attractive to many new prospects.

DM therefore decided to withhold the introduction of the Code until people started the HQS course. He proably figured that by that time, the people would have enough wins on HAS and would have made enough new friends so that they would stay in even if they weren't turned on by the Code.

The new Code also gives an extremely good look at what DM considers important and what he detests. The Code is a sort of a "battle plan" for what church member will be asked to do as well as what they will not be allowed to do.
Lakey

I need to clean up some errors I made: #5 and #7 are wrong. They should be:
#5 I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all abuses against life and Mankind changes to "I pledge to prevent the use of Scio in advertisements of other products."

#7 should be: I pledge to bring about an atmospher of safety and security in the field of mental health by eradicating its abuses and brutality changes to "I pledge to employ Scientology to the greatest good of the greatest number of dynamics."

I also edited the post, fixed some grammar and spelling errors, etc. For precept #12 about freedom of religion, it is remarkable that DM deleted it! There again, however, he is consistent in that the Code has only to do with activities in an Org and has nothing to say about the world at large.
Lakey

 

[Ted]

Re: The Code of a Sceintologist - Drastically Rewrtten!

I need to clean up some errors I made: #5 and #7 are wrong. They should be:
#5 I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all abuses against life and Mankind changes to "I pledge to prevent the use of Scio in advertisements of other products."

#7 should be: I pledge to bring about an atmospher of safety and security in the field of mental health by eradicating its abuses and brutality changes to "I pledge to employ Scientology to the greatest good of the greatest number of dynamics."

I also edited the post, fixed some grammar and spelling errors, etc. For precept #12 about freedom of religion, it is remarkable that DM deleted it! There again, however, he is consistent in that the Code has only to do with activities in an Org and has nothing to say about the world at large.
Lakey

None of these codes would mean much of anything if the intended target, the people, did not resonate with them. Some of the codes are just outright commands reflecting the desire of the author, not necessarily the people.

As has been accomplished with some of our national laws, Scientology will eventually be redefined into a subject completely opposed to original, published, intent.

 

[FoTi]

Re: The Code of a Sceintologist - Drastically Rewrtten!

I need to clean up some errors I made: #5 and #7 are wrong. They should be:
#5 I pledge to expose and help abolish any and all abuses against life and Mankind changes to "I pledge to prevent the use of Scio in advertisements of other products."

#7 should be: I pledge to bring about an atmospher of safety and security in the field of mental health by eradicating its abuses and brutality changes to "I pledge to employ Scientology to the greatest good of the greatest number of dynamics."

I also edited the post, fixed some grammar and spelling errors, etc. For precept #12 about freedom of religion, it is remarkable that DM deleted it! There again, however, he is consistent in that the Code has only to do with activities in an Org and has nothing to say about the world at large.
Lakey

Thanks for the info Lakey. This is interesting. The Code of a Scientologist is one of the things that really had me sold in the beginning along with the Aims of Scientology and the Auditor's Code..... because these thing included the rest of the world.....gave me the idea that Scientology was going to make a better world for everybody. Had I not been given that impression, I would never have gotten involved with it.

I would imagine that the King Squirrel changing the codes would really turn off a lot of those still in.....especially those that have been in for a long time. DM couldn't have made it more blatant that he is replacing LRH tech for his own. How will he ever explain this to those who know better? Does he think people won't notice the difference?

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Code of a Sceintologist - Drastically Rewrtten!

Thanks for the info Lakey. This is interesting. The Code of a Scientologist is one of the things that really had me sold in the beginning along with the Aims of Scientology and the Auditor's Code..... because these thing included the rest of the world.....gave me the idea that Scientology was going to make a better world for everybody. Had I not been given that impression, I would never have gotten involved with it.

I would imagine that the King Squirrel changing the codes would really turn off a lot of those still in.....especially those that have been in for a long time. DM couldn't have made it more blatant that he is replacing LRH tech for his own. How will he ever explain this to those who know better? Does he think people won't notice the difference?

Tyrants taking over a country or a movement go slowly at first. If their take over is not a complete revolt they usually pay a lot of lip service to what existed earlier so as to reassure and win over the members of their group.

The first steps to change things are usually small, sort of "baby steps". As those meet with success, the tryrant is emboldened and takes bigger steps. When that person becomes firmly entrenched and the last of the people who were present during the previous era are gone the tyrant "takes off his gloves" and does whatever the hell he wants, operating on a total "knows best"

I wonder if the "Aims of Scientology" and the "Auditors' Code" have been changed yet. It seems to me that by the COB of an organization chaniging the fundamental documents of that organization he is giving parishioners and staff license to quit the organization without any penalty.

A person sees that an Organization supports the freedom of religion, supports true humanitarian endeavors in the field of human rights and is taking responsibility for cleaning up the field of mental health. He signs on to become a member. A new leader enters and cancels all the above tenets as being supported. WHY WOULD IT BE MANDATORY FOR A MEMBER TO STAY IN THE NEWER ORGANIZATION? The member should have the right to reevaluate whether he wants to remain in or not. Some will stay but others will chose to leave and they should not be penalized for doing so!!!

Invoking this type of thinking should hold up in court of law and could also apply to getting back donations for such things as the IAS and various building funds.
Lakey