The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

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1. My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE .
"If you're going to kill each other, do it outside. I just finished cleaning."

2. My mother taught me RELIGION.
"You better pray that will come out of the carpet."

3. My mother taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!"

4. My mother taught me LOGIC.
"Because I said so, that's why."

5. My mother taught me MORE LOGIC.
"If you fall out of that swing and break your neck, you're not going to the store with me."

6. My mother taught me FORESIGHT.
"Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case you're in an accident."

7. My mother taught me IRONY.
"Keep crying, and I'll give you something to cry about."

8. My mother taught me about the science of OSMOSIS.
"Shut your mouth and eat your supper."

9. My mother taught me about CONTORTION-ISM.
"Will you look at that dirt on the back of your neck!"

10. My mother taught me about STAMINA.
"You'll sit there until all that spinach is gone."

11. My mother taught me about WEATHER.
"This room of yours looks as if a tornado went through it."

12. My mother taught me about HYPOCRISY.
"If I told you once, I've told you a million times. Don't exaggerate!"

13. My mother taught me the CIRCLE OF LIFE.
"I brought you into this world, and I can take you out."

14. My mother taught me about BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION.
"Stop acting like your father!"

15. My mother taught me about ENVY.
"There are millions of less fortunate children in this world who don't have wonderful parents like you do."

16. My mother taught me about ANTICIPATION.
"Just wait until we get home."

17. My mother taught me about RECEIVING.
"You are going to get it when you get home!"

18. My mother taught me MEDICAL SCIENCE.
"If you don't stop crossing your eyes, they are going to get stuck that way."

19. My mother taught me ESP.
"Put your sweater on; don't you think I know when you are cold?"

20. My mother taught me HUMOR.
"When that lawn mower cuts off your toes, don't come running to me."

21. My mother taught me HOW TO BECOME AN ADULT .
"If you don't eat your vegetables, you'll never grow up."

22. My mother taught me GENETICS.
"You're just like your father."

23. My mother taught me about my ROOTS.
"Shut that door behind you. Do you think you were born in a barn?"

24. My mother taught me WISDOM.
"When you get to be my age, you'll understand."

And my favorite:



25. My mother taught me about JUSTICE.
"One day you'll have kids, and I hope they turn out just like you!"

Only you folks my age understand these profound statements.
But, there is one missing from this list~~My personal all time favorite!

My mother taught me about CHOICE.
"Do you want me to stop this car?"

Great Ted, these are all hillarious!! If I didn't know better, I would have guessed this stuff came from a Jewish mother. Every single one of those lines was used on the kids in our family and by most parents in our neighborhood as well. Most of those lines resonated with the culture of the 40's and 50's and probably the 30's (before my time). Nowadays, I bet they would all be deemed outmoded by current authorities. They all seem to be politically incorrect or insensitive by today's standards.

The one that always puzzled me the most is #3, "If you don't straighten out, I am going to knock you into the middle of next week." That was usually said by Fathers , not Mothers in my neighborhood. I just didn't get what it meant and asked my Dad several times to clarify what he meant.

I can't resist adding two more items:

The first is ABOUT ETHICS, and is very similar in meaning to your #3 above. "If you don't straighten out, I am going to hit you so hard that you won't know whether you are on foot or on horseback."

The second one is ABOUT TELLING LIES. "If I find out that you are lying to me, I will wash your mouth out with soap." BTW, this threat was actually carried out several times in our family by our Mom.

Try saying those to a modern kid and they either wouldn't know what it meant and/or they would consider you a wierdo.
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

The Usual Suspects

To:
The Usual Suspects

Subject:
What have you told your children? / What example did you give them? / How would you do it over?

I'm mulling this over, and will give my answer(s) shortly.




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[Ted]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

Great Ted, these are all hillarious!! If I didn't know better, I would have guessed this stuff came from a Jewish mother. Every single one of those lines was used on the kids in our family and by most parents in our neighborhood as well. Most of those lines resonated with the culture of the 40's and 50's and probably the 30's (before my time). Nowadays, I bet they would all be deemed outmoded by current authorities. They all seem to be politically incorrect or insensitive by today's standards.

The one that always puzzled me the most is #3, "If you don't straighten out, I am going to knock you into the middle of next week." That was usually said by Fathers , not Mothers in my neighborhood. I just didn't get what it meant and asked my Dad several times to clarify what he meant.

I can't resist adding two more items:

The first is ABOUT ETHICS, and is very similar in meaning to your #3 above. "If you don't straighten out, I am going to hit you so hard that you won't know whether you are on foot or on horseback."

The second one is ABOUT TELLING LIES. "If I find out that you are lying to me, I will wash your mouth out with soap." BTW, this threat was actually carried out several times in our family by our Mom.

Try saying those to a modern kid and they either wouldn't know what it meant and/or they would consider you a wierdo.
Lakey

"I'm going to tell your father when he gets home."

In all the above, the threat was always worse than the punishment. None of it, however, carried any weight unless you knew your mom loved and cared about you.

 

[Terril park]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Re Buster Keaton, my favorite film maker. I've seen all his films at least 7 times, back when I had to pay and go to a movie theater. And some times since.

"In 1999, the American Film Institute ranked Keaton the 21st-greatest male star of all time. Critic Roger Ebert wrote of Keaton's "extraordinary period from 1920 to 1929, [when] he worked without interruption on a series of films that make him, arguably, the greatest actor-director in the history of the movies."[2]

Orson Welles stated that Keaton's The General is "the greatest comedy ever made, the greatest Civil War film ever made, and perhaps the greatest film ever made."[4]"

This of course is commentary on " Gone with the Wind" and
"Citizen Kane", the latter made by Orson and for decades, and probably still considered by most film critics as the greatest movie ever made.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton

Just recently bought a copy to send to some dear friends, but after discovered its available for free download, as probably all his movies are!

http://www.archive.org/details/TheGeneral

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Re Buster Keaton, my favorite film maker. I've seen all his films at least 7 times, back when I had to pay and go to a movie theater. And some times since.

"In 1999, the American Film Institute ranked Keaton the 21st-greatest male star of all time. Critic Roger Ebert wrote of Keaton's "extraordinary period from 1920 to 1929, [when] he worked without interruption on a series of films that make him, arguably, the greatest actor-director in the history of the movies."[2]

Orson Welles stated that Keaton's The General is "the greatest comedy ever made, the greatest Civil War film ever made, and perhaps the greatest film ever made."[4]"

This of course is commentary on " Gone with the Wind" and
"Citizen Kane", the latter made by Orson and for decades, and probably still considered by most film critics as the greatest movie ever made.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton

Just recently bought a copy to send to some dear friends, but after discovered its available for free download, as probably all his movies are!

http://www.archive.org/details/TheGeneral

Thanks for posting this Carmelo. I've heard of Buster Keaton of course, but never have seen any of his work that I know of. I had no idea that he was one of the all time greats. I am going to have to watch "The General" and see what makes it tick as one of the greatest of all time. I wonder why his stuff was not promoted to kids of my generation, the way Charlie Chaplin's movies were, or for that matter "Laurel and Hardy" movies. I guess it was too sophisticated for children but then Keaton was not played much in the art movie house in the 60's and 70's, at least not to my knowledge.

On "Citizen Kane", I lived in the Los Feliz area of L.A. near Griffith Park between 1968 and 1970. There was an art movie theatre on North Vermont Ave. just south of Los Feliz Blvd (BTW, it is still there and still featuring art movies!) One day, I drove home from work and had nothing planned for the evening and saw the words "Citizen Kane" staring Orson Wells on the theatre marquee. I ate dinner at home and went by myself to see "Citizen Kane". It was simply the greatest movie which I had ever seen! I believe it is over 2 hours long but the time went by as if it was less than an hour. For decades, I rated it my #1 movie of all time. It is just a great piece of art and it is a tour de force for Orson Welles many talents.

In more modern times, there have a few movies which I have liked just as much. One in particular is the "Shawshank Redemption" staring Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman. It is not as fine of a movie as Citizen Kane but the Shawshank story by Steven King is just totally my favorite story and makes up for any shortcomings the movie might have, which are very few.

The story is based on the same murder in L.A. in 1949 as the old TV series, "The Fugitive" starring David Janssen and the Fugitive move starring Harrison Ford. However, in the Fugitive series, the falsely accused killer never goes to prison but is on the run trying to prove his innocence. In the Shawshank story, the plot revolves around the falsely convicted killer planning and executing his escape from prison.

For those who know the Citizen Kane plot, the word "Rosebud" has tremendous meaning. Kane's last word on his death bed was "Rosebud" and no one could figure out why that would be his dying word. On reporter searched the entire world and and interviewed all of Kane's friends and couldn't find what that word signified in Kane's life. In the last scene in the movie, the reporter is standing about 5 feet from an object which would reveal the answer to his search. The object is hanging on a hook on the back of the door in Kane's hospital room and the door is ajar and is open enough to see the object from inside the room. Will the reporter see it and finally solve the mystery which he has spent much of his life chasing down?

It is such a powerful and haunting scene for someone to be seeking something for years, even devoting his life to it, and then be standing only a few feet from the answer he is looking for without noticing it. 43 years after first seeing the movie, that scene at the end of "Citizen Kane" is still haunting me. What film making! Orson Welles - what a guy!
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Re Buster Keaton, my favorite film maker. I've seen all his films at least 7 times, back when I had to pay and go to a movie theater. And some times since.

"In 1999, the American Film Institute ranked Keaton the 21st-greatest male star of all time. Critic Roger Ebert wrote of Keaton's "extraordinary period from 1920 to 1929, [when] he worked without interruption on a series of films that make him, arguably, the greatest actor-director in the history of the movies."[2]

Orson Welles stated that Keaton's The General is "the greatest comedy ever made, the greatest Civil War film ever made, and perhaps the greatest film ever made."[4]"

This of course is commentary on " Gone with the Wind" and
"Citizen Kane", the latter made by Orson and for decades, and probably still considered by most film critics as the greatest movie ever made.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buster_Keaton

Just recently bought a copy to send to some dear friends, but after discovered its available for free download, as probably all his movies are!

http://www.archive.org/details/TheGeneral

OMG!

how utterly cool!

In our neighborhood, we have the Stanford Theater, which plays old movies.

Silents and talkies.

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There is no comparison between "The Big Screen" and a TV set.

Whether it is Buster Keaton, Harold Lloyd, Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, Cary Grant, Audrey Hepburn, James Garner, Doris Day, Rock Hudson, or anyone else.

A movie theatre is the place to see MOVIES.

Not only is the REALITY of the movie more real, the added benefits of the audience laughter, gasping, emotion, experience - a part of the complete experience.

The quiet enjoyment.

and let us not forget, the shared experience, with our girl friend / boyfriend and the greater audience. the memories, that no one can take away.

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as God is my witness, I never never fail to cry in "Gone With The Wind" and "Casablanca."



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[CarmeloOrchards]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Thanks for posting this BB. I've heard of Buster Keaton of course, but never have seen any of his work that I know of. I had no idea that he was one of the all time greats. I am going to have to watch "The General" and see what makes it tick as one of the greatest of all time. I wonder why his stuff was not promoted to kids of my generation, the way Charlie Chaplin's movies were, or for that matter "Laurel and Hardy" movies. I guess it was too sophisticated for children but then Keaton was not played much in the art movie house in the 60's and 70's, at least not to my knowledge.

On "Citizen Kane", I lived in the Los Feliz area of L.A. near Griffith Park between 1968 and 1970. There was an art movie theatre on North Vermont Ave. just south of Los Feliz Blvd (BTW, it is still there and still featuring art movies!) One day, I drove home from work and had nothing planned for the evening and saw the words "Citizen Kane" staring Orson Wells on the theatre marquee. I ate dinner at home and went by myself to see "Citizen Kane". It was simply the greatest movie which I had ever seen! I believe it is over 2 hours long but the time went by as if it was less than an hour. For decades, I rated it my #1 movie of all time. It is just a great piece of art and it is a tour de force for Orson Welles many talents.

In more modern times, there have a few movies which I have liked just as much. One in particular is the "Shawshank Redemption" staring Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman. It is not as fine of a movie as Citizen Kane but the Shawshank story by Steven King is just totally my favorite story and makes up for any shortcomings the movie might have, which are very few.

The story is based on the same murder in L.A. in 1949 as the old TV series, "The Fugitive" starring David Janssen and the Fugitive move starring Harrison Ford. However, in the Fugitive series, the falsely accused killer never goes to prison but is on the run trying to prove his innocence. In the Shawshank story, the plot revolves around the falsely convicted killer planning and executing his escape from prison.

For those who know the Citizen Kane plot, the word "Rosebud" has tremendous meaning. Kane's last word on his death bed was "Rosebud" and no one could figure out why that would be his dying word. On reporter searched the entire world and and interviewed all of Kane's friends and couldn't find what that word signified in Kane's life. In the last scene in the movie, the reporter is standing about 5 feet from an object which would reveal the answer to his search. The object is hanging on a hook on the back of the door in Kane's hospital room and the door is ajar and is open enough to see the object from inside the room. Will the reporter see it and finally solve the mystery which he has spent much of his life chasing down?

It is such a powerful and haunting scene for someone to be seeking something for years, even devoting his life to it, and then be standing only a few feet from the answer he is looking for without noticing it. 43 years after first seeing the movie, that scene at the end of "Citizen Kane" is still haunting me. What film making! Orson Welles - what a guy!
Lakey

Citizen Kane was about William Randolph Hearst.

Hearst's mistress was the actress, Marion Davies.

His nickname for her clitoris was "Rosebud."

 

[Terril park]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Citizen Kane was about William Randolph Hearst.

Hearst's mistress was the actress, Marion Davies.

His nickname for her clitoris was "Rosebud."

Lol! Didn't know that.

The General was Busters.

 

[FoTi]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I used to listen to my Dylan albums at age 15 and then go to the theater where it was all quiet and dark just before the afternoon matinee'. I 'd bring my notebook and write my adolescent poetry there..... regarded as being so deeeeeep.

'In this desert land of soft and golden crystal sands
Where majesties of mountains grand
On my heated soul their coolness fans

.........SNIPPED.......

I grasp the traces left by me
And slumber to eternity
Where seas of sand and sands of seas
Sublime me in ubiguiity :
.....

Hillarious that I still remember some words.


Oh....'nother one

A dead racoon lies side of the road
His tangled body more rigid than cold
yadda yadda

THOSE WERE THE DAYS!

And THEN came the sad yrs colored by the war where all the songs reeked of melancholia.

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I loved Dylan's music!!!

And I really like your poetry!!!

 

[FoTi]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

Great Ted, these are all hillarious!! If I didn't know better, I would have guessed this stuff came from a Jewish mother. Every single one of those lines was used on the kids in our family and by most parents in our neighborhood as well. Most of those lines resonated with the culture of the 40's and 50's and probably the 30's (before my time). Nowadays, I bet they would all be deemed outmoded by current authorities. They all seem to be politically incorrect or insensitive by today's standards.

The one that always puzzled me the most is #3, "If you don't straighten out, I am going to knock you into the middle of next week." That was usually said by Fathers , not Mothers in my neighborhood. I just didn't get what it meant and asked my Dad several times to clarify what he meant.

I can't resist adding two more items:

The first is ABOUT ETHICS, and is very similar in meaning to your #3 above. "If you don't straighten out, I am going to hit you so hard that you won't know whether you are on foot or on horseback."

The second one is ABOUT TELLING LIES. "If I find out that you are lying to me, I will wash your mouth out with soap." BTW, this threat was actually carried out several times in our family by our Mom.

Try saying those to a modern kid and they either wouldn't know what it meant and/or they would consider you a wierdo.
Lakey

"Quit crying or I'll give you something to cry about."

 

[Ted]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

"Quit crying or I'll give you something to cry about."

Yep. I heard that one!

 

[Hatshepsut]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

Yep. I heard that one!

Me too!

And this one...
"If you want my attention it's gonna be the WRONG kind."

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

Me too!

And this one...
"If you want my attention it's gonna be the WRONG kind."

How about a few more classics. Dad says, "You better shape up or I am going to have to take you out to the wood shed."

Dad takes you out to the wood shed and before he swats you he says, "This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you." One time I argued with him and said, "Dad, that's not true, it's going to hurt me more, why don't you just admit it.

Mom or Dad lay a GUILT TRIP on you if you feel sick and don't want to go to school, i.e. "When I was your age, I had to walk 5 miles to school in the snow and you won't even let me drive you to school just because you don't feel good."

What about a classic, GO SIT IN THE CORNER, done by Moms, Dads and teachers at school. You do something wrong or question some orders you are given and the parent or teacher orders you to go sit in the corner until they tell you that it is okay to return to your seat.

Another one based on the concept that IT TAKES TWO TO START A FIGHT. A sibling or friend starts a fight with you, you fight back and your Dad comes over and swats both of you. Each kid says that the other kid started it. The Dad says, "I don't care who started it but I am going to finish it!"

This actually happened to me when I was 5 1/2 or 6 and I was driving in the back seat of our car with the girl across the street, Joanie. My Dad and Joanie's Dad were in the front seat. For no reason, Joanie pinched near my butt. I immediately counterattacked and pinched her. My Dad was driving and wheeled around and whacked me very hard and yelled for me to stop fighting. I protested that Joanie started it and she countered that I started it. I had never lied in my life and my Dad made no effort to find the truth and ordered us to both shut up using the exact phrase I mentioned above.

That incident really arrested my growth. I am still partially stuck in it. It was really terrible parenting by my Dad. He was a good parent for the most part but really blew it on that incident.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I think in our day the parents were too overwhelmed to bother to INSPECT what was really going on. They did not want the TRUTH necessarily, they just wanted everyone to knock off the ruckus. Hell, cloth diapers were still in use and there was no microwave or dishwasher and many folks HAD to get married because we insinuated ourselves. A non self-determined change in a person's life can give them a sour mood. Repeated and repeated again in unfavorable circumstances one might have been lucky that mom and pop allowed you into this world at all .

I grew up Catholic on the Great Lakes and having Irish or Italian dads working ten hours a day in the steel mills we all learned to skidaddle at 5 pm and be scarce.

We weren't concerned about unfair edicts but were more occupied with knowing how far away was beyond an ARM's length.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

childhood

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[CarmeloOrchards]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

This actually happened to me when I was 5 1/2 or 6 and I was driving in the back seat of our car with the girl across the street, Joanie. My Dad and Joanie's Dad were in the front seat. For no reason, Joanie pinched near my butt. I immediately counterattacked and pinched her. My Dad was driving and wheeled around and whacked me very hard and yelled for me to stop fighting. I protested that Joanie started it and she countered that I started it. I had never lied in my life and my Dad made no effort to find the truth and ordered us to both shut up using the exact phrase I mentioned above.

That incident really arrested my growth. I am still partially stuck in it. It was really terrible parenting by my Dad. He was a good parent for the most part but really blew it on that incident.

I'm not an auditor, but I play one on TV.

If I heard that ^^^^ in session, I would move right into that incident and the prior identity that you were wearing.

Let me explain, with a childhood "incident" from my childhood.

I was a productive farm kid up to the night, that my father cut my hair, so that I could "go to school" the next day. My hair had been long up to then. When I saw a picture of "Tarzan," I knew how my hair should be.

That hair cutting and the cutting of ties to my daily farm life routines crashed me into oblivion.

My self image, p to that point, was a responsible member of the family, with responsibilities and a wide range of activities that wasn't just "kid stuff." -- think driving a tractor, collecting eggs, cutting up a cow for meat, milking, doing a plumbing or electrical project, fixing a tractor.

Kindergarten, the next day, just reinforced the new fact, that I was bupkis. I didn't know how to read or draw. I was NOT in charge of what I did, the teacher was. I became nobody in an instant.

I abandoned my life, and set up a spiritual teammate in my place. This was not me, not my life. I hated school.

I faked sickness for the next 12 years to avoid school, and do what I wanted. I could coast through school on native smarts. i never studied, but was most often in the smartest group. School offered NO SELF ESTEEM. I didn't take pride in breathing. I certainly, didn't take pride in school work.

Only when I was 14, and discovered philosophy (Sartre, Rand, Emerson, Thoreau, Huxley), did I pull myself from that tank of oblivion. That was when I began to recover all of me.

Back to you, Lakey.

Find who you were prior to the incident. Find who you became. See if you substituted a Spiritual Teammate for you after that. Is the ST still running some of the show. Look at problems this created, solutions for those problems. How would you have done things, had you remained present, and handled the incident and later life.

These are all areas to look at. Best done with an auditor, who is willing for you to be your full self, not just pigeon holed into a certain identity.

so much for my sermon for today.

gotta go see the tax guy

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I think in our day the parents were too overwhelmed to bother to INSPECT what was really going on. They did not want the TRUTH necessarily, they just wanted everyone to knock off the ruckus. Hell, cloth diapers were still in use and there was no microwave or dishwasher and many folks HAD to get married because we insinuated ourselves. A non self-determined change in a person's life can give them a sour mood. Repeated and repeated again in unfavorable circumstances one might have been lucky that mom and pop allowed you into this world at all .

I grew up Catholic on the Great Lakes and having Irish or Italian dads working ten hours a day in the steel mills we all learned to skidaddle at 5 pm and be scarce.

We weren't concerned about unfair edicts but were more occupied with knowing how far away was beyond an ARM's length.

Thanks Hats! You make some excellent points which actually made me feel better about that incident. The following remark of yours also sets the stage for another pearl of wisdom said by Mom's and Dad's of those days: Here is your remark, we all learned to skidaddle at 5 pm and be scarce and here is the associated item having to do with THE PURPOSE OF CHILDREN, "Children are meant to be seen but are not meant to be heard." Its not a perfect match because skidaddling involves both not being heard and not being seen but still it ties in somewhat. That one is really pretty ugly. In its day, it was taken as being sort of tongue in cheek and sort of light hearted. From today's perspective it looks more like an attempt to nullify a kid's beingness and suppress his very existence.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: I just reconnected with a lost friend from the old CCLA days!

Yesterday on my Facebook, someone contacted me who I knew in my 1972 and 1973 days at Celebrity Centre. He made my CCLA list of best people to hang out with. He is an artist and was very active at CCLA in the early days but never did join staff. I am talking about Richard Royce. My last contact with him was a phone call he made to me from Flag in early 1978.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: Why I Owe My Mother

I'm not an auditor, but I play one on TV.

If I heard that ^^^^ in session, I would move right into that incident and the prior identity that you were wearing.

Let me explain, with a childhood "incident" from my childhood.

I was a productive farm kid up to the night, that my father cut my hair, so that I could "go to school" the next day. My hair had been long up to then. When I saw a picture of "Tarzan," I knew how my hair should be.

That hair cutting and the cutting of ties to my daily farm life routines crashed me into oblivion.

My self image, p to that point, was a responsible member of the family, with responsibilities and a wide range of activities that wasn't just "kid stuff." -- think driving a tractor, collecting eggs, cutting up a cow for meat, milking, doing a plumbing or electrical project, fixing a tractor.

Kindergarten, the next day, just reinforced the new fact, that I was bupkis. I didn't know how to read or draw. I was NOT in charge of what I did, the teacher was. I became nobody in an instant.

I abandoned my life, and set up a spiritual teammate in my place. This was not me, not my life. I hated school.

I faked sickness for the next 12 years to avoid school, and do what I wanted. I could coast through school on native smarts. i never studied, but was most often in the smartest group. School offered NO SELF ESTEEM. I didn't take pride in breathing. I certainly, didn't take pride in school work.

Only when I was 14, and discovered philosophy (Sartre, Rand, Emerson, Thoreau, Huxley), did I pull myself from that tank of oblivion. That was when I began to recover all of me.

Back to you, Lakey.

Find who you were prior to the incident. Find who you became. See if you substituted a Spiritual Teammate for you after that. Is the ST still running some of the show. Look at problems this created, solutions for those problems. How would you have done things, had you remained present, and handled the incident and later life.

These are all areas to look at. Best done with an auditor, who is willing for you to be your full self, not just pigeon holed into a certain identity.

so much for my sermon for today.

gotta go see the tax guy

Thanks Carmelo, I'll give it a try. Maybe I can get Candy to run it on me! Just a cursory scan of it reveals that two stable datum I had at age 5 1/2 were knocked out at that point. First, I believed that if one told the truth they were doing the right thing and that things would turn out well. Second, had to do with my Dad. I looked up to him and my whole world revolved around him. I thought that he could do no wrong and would always see that I got a fair shake.

Those 2 stable datum got knocked out right there in that incident.
Lakey

 

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Re: childhood

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Ah, yes....snakes under the bed.

Nobody ever told me or said there were snakes under the bed, but I was sure afraid of them. There were a lot of them under my bed. I had to make sure I stayed on the bed and didn't put my feet on the floor when it was dark because I was sure they were under my bed and would bite me if I put one foot on the floor or even let my foot hang over the edge of the bed anywhere near the floor. One night I woke up in the middle of the night and had to go to the bathroom.....but the snakes.....how would I get safely past the snakes? I stood up on my bed, took a flying leap, in the dark, in the direction of the path to the bathroom, landed on the floor in a dead run, around the corner to the left, out the bedroom door, turn right, down the hallway, right into the bathroom...and BAM! :shock:.. in the dark I ran smack dab into the edge of the bathroom door ....never saw it coming....miscalculated and couldn't see where I was going....surprised the hell out of me.....my mom came running to see what happened and I forgot all about having to go to the bathroom, since I was now more concerned with the recent crash, the pain and the damage to my face. I had a line down the middle of my face for a while. After that night, I always had a nightlight in my room when I went to bed, until I got married and had a husband to protect me. The nightlight gave me a great deal of comfort and it was funny how the light made the snakes disappear.....never any more snakes. Those vipers sure had me scared for a while, though.

Unlike Cosby.....I never liked being scared.