The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Gottabrain]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

CCLA Registrar Hector Carmona used to assure his prospects that for every $1 of money one donated for Scientology services, $4 would come back to you as a result of your "donating to 'theta' instead of "MEST". I never accepted that and told Hector it was "pie in the sky" or wishful thinking. Hector really believed this to be true and would answer by looking you right in the eye and telling you that if you really examine the facts objectively, you would agree with his conclusion.

I talked to Hector 3 times by phone in early 2010 and met him once in person and I brought this up to him again. He said that he once believed it very strongly but as time went by, he came to change his mind. He stressed that if he had not believed it was true, he never would have used that phrase "close" people....Lakey

Wasn't his name Hector Gonzales? I was on his Comm Ev once. We are talking about the same guy, at any rate. Wild to hear he's still around. Is he still active in COS?

He knew he was painting a big picture in order to sell, Lakey. He knew it at the time and he knew he hurt some people very much - he even knew it at the time of his Comm Ev and that was way back in the early to mid 80s.

Hector was pretty mixed up back then, but in some ways he was more of a real person than many other Scns. He showed genuine emotion because he was a very emotional guy. I could see him starting to believe his own pretty pictures he painted for others, but deep down, he always knew better. He was just stuck in the trap like the rest of us, more so than most.

Hope he's out now and found his balance.

 

[lkwdblds]

Don and Barbara Keeler to reunite with Richard Royce!!

I was at a party today in L.A. put on by a group called Scientology Muster, run by the Mongielo's.

An old friend, Richard Royce left the C of S only about 6 days ago and saw me on Facebook and as a result of that we exchanged a series of emails. After 2 days, we spoke yesterday by phone for over an hour.

One of the things Richard mentioned right away was asking me if I knew how to get in touch with Don Keeler. He also asked if Don was still married to Barbara. I told him that they were still married and that I saw them at events frequently but did not have their phone number. I called Candy to see if she had it. She mentioned that they were going to be at the party today which I planned on attending.

TWO VERY ELATED PEOPLE
I approached Don and told him that I had a big surprise for him and he was going to be extremely happy in just a few seconds. With anticipation, he perked up and asked me what the surprise was. I handed him Richard's phone number and Don just lit up like an Xmas tree. He told me about their friendship and how close they had been. They were best friends for years but when Don was "declared" by C of S, Richard and his wife had disconnected from him.

Don ran over and told his wife and they were both just thrilled and very animated. Barbara, whom I had never talked to before came over and introduced herself and thanked me profusely. She said that if they had the Royce's for dinner or something like that, she would invite me.

Now the Keelers were once extremely close friends with the Royce's. I was just a casual friend. We were both getting Expanded Dianetics at CCLA and we talked several times over coffee at the CC snack bar. We teamed up twice on making investments in the commodities market. After I left staff, I called him and we talked maybe 3 or 4 times a year by phone and I went once to visit him at his new place of work, Atelier Royce. Our last contact was in late '78 or early '79. He called me from Clearwater, telling me that he started NOTs and it was the greatest thing he had ever done. He urged me to get down there ASAP.

I came to Flag for my NOTS in '79 in response to Richard's urging. At the time I was pissed at my original FSM, Harry Frisch, who had totally dropped me as a friend for the second time so I named Richard Royce as my FSM for my trips to Flag in 1979 and the early 80's. That was it, however, I never heard any more from him after that '79 phone call until last Thursday on Facebook.

THE STORY COMES FULL CIRCLE
When Don Keeler would not pass me on my Dianetic Internship and instead initiated a fitness board against me which led me to switch from Tech Training to being in Treasury, I hated him and figured that he must be a Suppressive Person.

I wrote that he was an SP in the early part of this thread. Several peopole who I respect came forward and vouched for Don and said that he was a good man, productive and well liked, etc. I was introduced to him at an event at Aida THomas's and we shook hands and I decided he was not an SP. I wrote on ESMB that I had been wrong about him and that he was a good man.

In the early 70's both Don Keeler and myself knew Richard Royce, Don on a best friend basis and me on a just a casual basis. Don and Richard lost touch a long time ago and as soon as Richard left C of S he wanted badly to reconnected with Don and Barbara.

Of all the people in the world, I am probably the only one who could have put those two friends back in touch. For someone to help reconnect them, that person would have had to have been a regular at Celebrity Centre in the early 1970's and been friends with Richard, they also would have had to have left the Church, they would have had to be active on Facebook and they would have to know how to get in touch with Don Keeler.

Besides me, there are only two others who had even come close to having the prerequisites. One would be Candy Swanson. She has all the attributes except for one - that being that she and Richard were never friends. The other candidate is Sherry Katz. She knows Richard well and he told me last Friday that he was going to have dinner with her the next day. She was at CC and may have made friends with Richard while she was there but she was never friends with Don Keeler and would not know how to contact him (as far as I know).

A POSTULATE WORKS
Richard gets declared on March 5 and leaves C of S. On March 7, he makes a friend request to me on Facebook. On March 8, I respond and he tells me to email him. We exchange emails on March 8 and March 9. He calls me the evening of March 9 and brings up Don Keeler. I tell him I know Don but don't have his number but that I can get it from Candy. I call Candy to get the number and she tells me that Don and his wife are going to be at the Party the next day, March 11. I write down Richard's number on a "post it" and give it to Don this evening.

I can feel the intention present in this cycle. This is a Postulate, probably being made both by Richard and assisted by Don and Barbara. Richard was actively taking steps to make the postulate work. The Keelers may have only wished to see the Royce's again but they were putting out some intention towards that goal. They were caught completely off guard when I give them his phone number. It only took between March 5 and March 11, a 7 day span, for this postulate to come to fruition.

There is no way this event could happen by chance. I can feel the postulate working, sense it working and almost see and feel it. It really feels great to have participated as a medium in bringing these two couples who were once best friends back together after several decades of separation. For this long shot event to be accomplished in only 7 days makes this occurrence even more remarkable
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

William Shatner's one man show

We went to the City to see Bill Shatner's one man show. It was sold out, but I had gotten 5th row orchestra tickets. Not bad at all.

He was terrific. He told many humbling, funny, and human tales of himself and his life.

If he comes to your town, go see him. He may be 81, but he looks and acts 51.

[video=youtube;jS1B2Ofd_J4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS1B2Ofd_J4[/video]

 

[Ted]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

I was dumb/naive enough to believe that if I gave them all my money, I would "pull in" more.....that it would "Open up my money flows". I believed all their BS.

It's like priming a pump. You will get more if there's water in the well. And if there's no water there, you have just screwed yourself.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

Wasn't his name Hector Gonzales? I was on his Comm Ev once. We are talking about the same guy, at any rate. Wild to hear he's still around. Is he still active in COS?

He knew he was painting a big picture in order to sell, Lakey. He knew it at the time and he knew he hurt some people very much - he even knew it at the time of his Comm Ev and that was way back in the early to mid 80s.

Hector was pretty mixed up back then, but in some ways he was more of a real person than many other Scns. He showed genuine emotion because he was a very emotional guy. I could see him starting to believe his own pretty pictures he painted for others, but deep down, he always knew better. He was just stuck in the trap like the rest of us, more so than most.

Hope he's out now and found his balance.

On the name, Gottabrain, it is definitely Hector Carmona. Hector was CC's head Reg until 1982. He is gay and after leaving CCLA in '82, he was a reg in Hollywood for a gay Scientology Mission.

He is out now, he no longer believe that Scientology is workable but does not want anything to do with the internet. He wants his privacy and wants to be left alone. He is very nervous and tense. I gave him a massage and his upper back and neck were among the most tense I have ever seen. Hector is about 5'8", is thin with thick black hair and has always had a mustache. Does that sound like a description of the Hector which you mentioned?

He has some ex Scientology contacts who are the Many's, Chris and Nancy, and he has been known to appear at their parties. He is also friendly with Spanky Pinion and a lot of her friends. He wanted to reconnect with my brother, Clarence Rockaway and I gave him an e-mail address. They exchanged emails and in about a week they both decided mutually to cut their communication line.

Hector is a nice guy and he knows an awful lot about the early days of CCLA. He divulged a lot of his data to me in early 2010. I edited my CCLA - "Story of Origin"
thread with his new data but then Richard Royce just emerged with the key data which I was missing. I ran Richard's data past Don Keeler last night in person and Don thought that it all seemed correct. Don was also at CCLA in 1969. He said there was an Org there but it was just a shell of an Org.

Don added one new piece of data. He said that Candy was not the first CCLA auditor but was the first permanent CCLA auditor. Back in the earliest days in summer of 1969, if someone wanted a session, Yvonne would consult with various auditors who were in the building and ask if they would do a session on the spur of the moment. Sometimes she found an auditor, sometimes she did not. In this manner, some sessions were delivered before Candy showed up in April of 1970. Don told me last night that he is pretty sure he started at C/Sing in May of 1970 once they had a permanent auditor. He said that he started hanging around CC in 1969. He said he was not there for the first day but came shortly after that, maybe several weeks or a month after start up day. In 1968 he said that he did the HSDC course in St. Hill in England.

I keep learning more details on this from time to time but I think the learning phase may now be over. Probably I could get more data if I tried to contact Mario Feninger and he agreed to see me but I am not going to go that far. The man is 100 years old now and doesn't know who I am and I don't feel it would be proper to enter his life at this stage I'm just going to call it "a wrap" at this point as far as the CCLA - Story of Origin goes.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

My Multitalented Friend Richard

Richard was into art at CCLA, being a painter himself and opening a business called Atelier Royce in Santa Monica. He wanted to make it big in Art and relocated to New York City. He told me that he reached all the goals which he set for himself in Art and in 1991 he decided to give up art and he and his wife, of all things, joined the Sea Org.

That didn't work out and they were able to cancel their contract, route out on a routing form, not be declared and have their Freeloader debt waived. (I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT. THEY SHOULD DO A HAT WRITE UP!). After leaving the S.O., Richard decided to get involved with music. He already knew the guitar and loved Flamenco so he concentrated on composing Flamenco music and playing his own pieces. He says that he has achieved a lot in that genre as well. Here is a link to his own website where there are videos and audios which are available to be seen and watched:

http://www.richardroyceontheguitar.com/Favorites.html

I had no idea how accomplished Richard was, during those years when I knew him. It is great that he played such a big part in starting CCLA and that he is so talented in the Arts. Little did I know. To me he was just a likeable guy whom Yvonne seemed to like for some reason. I knew he had a background at USC in the Arts and stumbled into CC before I got there. He was friendly and we were both getting Expanded Dianetics delivered to us and he sought me out on session breaks and we chatted over coffee. He pitched to me that he had a system to win at investing in the commodities market and I put up $2k for him to invest twice.

He told me that he noticed that I seemed much more sure of myself once I started my XDN. That was music to my ears. We met in late 1972 and stayed in touch until early 1979. We were more than acquaintances, there was a friendship there but it was limited and eventually we lost touch. Never in my wildest dreams did I realize that this friend of mine was such an accomplished person and so talented. Two days after he leaves C of S, he sends me a friends request on Facebook. A week later I help him and Don and Barbara Keeler reconnect. It is really a beautiful little story. A real pleasure moment for all of us concerned and soooo unexpected.
Lakey

 

[Gottabrain]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

On the name, Gottabrain, it is definitely Hector Carmona. Hector was CC's head Reg until 1982. He is gay and after leaving CCLA in '82, he was a reg in Hollywood for a gay Scientology Mission.

He is out now, he no longer believe that Scientology is workable but does not want anything to do with the internet. He wants his privacy and wants to be left alone. He is very nervous and tense. I gave him a massage and his upper back and neck were among the most tense I have ever seen. Hector is about 5'8", is thin with thick black hair and has always had a mustache. Does that sound like a description of the Hector which you mentioned?

Yes, Lakey, definitely the same Hector. So it was Cordona then, not Gonzales. My mistake. He left after the Comm Ev. That's really weird. I'd like to know how it all happened. We had originally recommended offload (I never believed in RPFing anyone) but IJC had changed it and kept him on as reg at CCLA because he was Kha Khan. Apparently after that, the recommendations were changed AGAIN. So from what you're saying, he left right after that and worked as a reg at a mission. Was he happy then? At least for a while?

Hector was high strung & tense and highly emotional back then, too. Yes, he is gay. We didn't state it in the Comm Ev, didn't think it was anyone's business unless Hector chose to tell others, but he was very honest with us. It wasn't that he was gay that was a problem and I won't say more because I think the entire comm ev was very painful for him. He struck me as a tragic figure at the time and you can tell him that all of us on the comm ev had compassion for him. We tried our best to do what was best for him, all things considered. The SO environment was killing him and he was on a bit of a destructive binge to self and others at the time.

Lakey, please tell Hector if he wants to chat with me, I'm happy to talk to him. These days, I'd recommend he get some professional therapy. Definitely no Scn in any form, but he needs to do something about his anxiety for his own good. Nobody should ever have to live that way.

 

[FoTi]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

It's like priming a pump. You will get more if there's water in the well. And if there's no water there, you have just screwed yourself.

Yeh....well I screwed myself.

Well....I was somehow led to believe that there was water, water, everywhere....no such thing as an empty well......and if I only gave them what I had, then more would just flow in.....like magic. "The principle of flows"??? Is that written in the tech anywhere? Outflow = inflow? Where the hell did they get the idea to use that method of regging? Hector may have been the first to introduce me to that idea, but other regges used it as well.

 

[FoTi]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

On the name, Gottabrain, it is definitely Hector Carmona. Hector was CC's head Reg until 1982. He is gay and after leaving CCLA in '82, he was a reg in Hollywood for a gay Scientology Mission.

He is out now, he no longer believe that Scientology is workable but does not want anything to do with the internet. He wants his privacy and wants to be left alone. He is very nervous and tense. I gave him a massage and his upper back and neck were among the most tense I have ever seen. Hector is about 5'8", is thin with thick black hair and has always had a mustache. Does that sound like a description of the Hector which you mentioned?

He has some ex Scientology contacts who are the Many's, Chris and Nancy, and he has been known to appear at their parties. He is also friendly with Spanky Pinion and a lot of her friends. He wanted to reconnect with my brother, Clarence Rockaway and I gave him an e-mail address. They exchanged emails and in about a week they both decided mutually to cut their communication line.

Hector is a nice guy and he knows an awful lot about the early days of CCLA. He divulged a lot of his data to me in early 2010. I edited my CCLA - "Story of Origin"
thread with his new data but then Richard Royce just emerged with the key data which I was missing. I ran Richard's data past Don Keeler last night in person and Don thought that it all seemed correct. Don was also at CCLA in 1969. He said there was an Org there but it was just a shell of an Org.

Don added one new piece of data. He said that Candy was not the first CCLA auditor but was the first permanent CCLA auditor. Back in the earliest days in summer of 1969, if someone wanted a session, Yvonne would consult with various auditors who were in the building and ask if they would do a session on the spur of the moment. Sometimes she found an auditor, sometimes she did not. In this manner, some sessions were delivered before Candy showed up in April of 1970. Don told me last night that he is pretty sure he started at C/Sing in May of 1970 once they had a permanent auditor. He said that he started hanging around CC in 1969. He said he was not there for the first day but came shortly after that, maybe several weeks or a month after start up day. In 1968 he said that he did the HSDC course in St. Hill in England.

I keep learning more details on this from time to time but I think the learning phase may now be over. Probably I could get more data if I tried to contact Mario Feninger and he agreed to see me but I am not going to go that far. The man is 100 years old now and doesn't know who I am and I don't feel it would be proper to enter his life at this stage I'm just going to call it "a wrap" at this point as far as the CCLA - Story of Origin goes.
Lakey

Thanks for the info, Lakey......but...I don't think it's a....very a....ah....fair to Hector to post online on ESMB ...that he's gay. That's kind of his private info and would be for him to post it, if he wanted to, but I think you're kind of out of place to do this publicly in regards to his private life sex life. It kind of gives me a yucky feeling that you did this......unless he said it was okay. I liked Hector a lot.

I never heard there was a gay Scientology mission in Hollywood. What happened to it?

 

[Ted]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

Yeh....well I screwed myself.

Well....I was somehow led to believe that there was water, water, everywhere....no such thing as an empty well......and if I only gave them what I had, then more would just flow in.....like magic. "The principle of flows"??? Is that written in the tech anywhere? Outflow = inflow? Where the hell did they get the idea to use that method of regging? Hector may have been the first to introduce me to that idea, but other regges used it as well.

If memory serves, I believe outflow=inflow is a condensation of things Hubbard actually said or wrote, a reg tool. There is no direct correlation between outflow and inflow.

If you outflow all your money, you had better be setup to inflow some more. The setup is all important. Someone with a business, like the WISE clients I used to have, could be setup to outflow some money then reap the benefit of training or auditing. The people who got audited were for the most part a breeze to consult. The pc's I used to have who were in sales or some sort were in similar positions to business owners. They could always earn more as they got their act together and fine-tuned.

Comparatively speaking, the pc's I used to have who were on fixed incomes must have suffered cognitive dissonance hearing about outflow=inflow. Even a job change comes with limitations of salary or other compensation.

 

[FoTi]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

If memory serves, I believe outflow=inflow is a condensation of things Hubbard actually said or wrote, a reg tool. There is no direct correlation between outflow and inflow.

If you outflow all your money, you had better be setup to inflow some more. The setup is all important. Someone with a business, like the WISE clients I used to have, could be setup to outflow some money then reap the benefit of training or auditing. The people who got audited were for the most part a breeze to consult. The pc's I used to have who were in sales or some sort were in similar positions to business owners. They could always earn more as they got their act together and fine-tuned.

Comparatively speaking, the pc's I used to have who were on fixed incomes must have suffered cognitive dissonance hearing about outflow=inflow. Even a job change comes with limitations of salary or other compensation.

They always seemed so positive about it and so sure of it and I was so gullible.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

Thanks for the info, Lakey......but...I don't think it's a....very a....ah....fair to Hector to post online on ESMB ...that he's gay. That's kind of his private info and would be for him to post it, if he wanted to, but I think you're kind of out of place to do this publicly in regards to his private life sex life. It kind of gives me a yucky feeling that you did this......unless he said it was okay. I liked Hector a lot.

I never heard there was a gay Scientology mission in Hollywood. What happened to it?

You are correct and if Hector was concealing that he is gay, I definitely would not have mentioned it. Pretty much everybody knew that even back in the 70's. In today's world, being gay is much more accepted than it was then. Society is viewing it as an alternative lifestyle, fully equal to being "straight" in the eyes of the law and in all other ways.

Hector brought up his gayness immediately when I contacted him in 2010. We discussed it openly. It is part of who he is. He has no problem with discussing it and has no hang ups about it. I would go so far as to say that he is proud of being gay. Believe me, had he made it known to me that he did not want that info to get out, or if I wasn't certain whether he want it revealed or not, I would not have mentioned it.

For Gottabrain, around August of 2010, Hector invited me to a party of ex CCLA staff which Spanky Pinion was hosting. Without asking anybody, I invited Candy because she is ex CCLA staff. In turn she invited Johnny Rafanello. Hector said it was okay for me to bring Candy but said that they only had room for a limited number of people and to un-invite Johnny. The next day, Hector called and said that Candy could not come either. I told him that was ridiculous, she was ex CC staff and I already invited her. He insisted that she could not come. I said that if she doesn't come, I'm not coming. He said "Fine!" and hung up on me. That ended
our newly rekindled friendship!

I believe that I wrote up Hector's experiences with the Hollywood mission on this thread around August, 2010. Maybe if you run a search on this thread's search box, you may find that. He did mentioned your mission and the Committee of Evidence which was held with him as the interested party. I believe he did mention that you guys tried to be fair.
Lakey

PS: Gottabrain, his last name is not Gonzales or even Cadona, it is Carmona, Hector Carmona!

 

[FoTi]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

You are correct and if Hector was concealing that he is gay, I definitely would not have mentioned it. Pretty much everybody knew that even back in the 70's. In today's world, being gay is much more accepted than it was then. Society is viewing it as an alternative lifestyle, fully equal to being "straight" in the eyes of the law and in all other ways.

Hector brought up his gayness immediately when I contacted him in 2010. We discussed it openly. It is part of who he is. He has no problem with discussing it and has no hang ups about it. I would go so far as to say that he is proud of being gay. Believe me, had he made it known to me that he did not want that info to get out, or if I wasn't certain whether he want it revealed or not, I would not have mentioned it.

For Gottabrain, around August of 2010, Hector invited me to a party of ex CCLA staff which Spanky Pinion was hosting. Without asking anybody, I invited Candy because she is ex CCLA staff. In turn she invited Johnny Rafanello. Hector said it was okay for me to bring Candy but said that they only had room for a limited number of people and to un-invite Johnny. The next day, Hector called and said that Candy could not come either. I told him that was ridiculous, she was ex CC staff and I already invited her. He insisted that she could not come. I said that if she doesn't come, I'm not coming. He said "Fine!" and hung up on me. That ended
our newly rekindled friendship!

I believe that I wrote up Hector's experiences with the Hollywood mission on this thread around August, 2010. Maybe if you run a search on this thread's search box, you may find that. He did mentioned your mission and the Committee of Evidence which was held with him as the interested party. I believe he did mention that you guys tried to be fair.
Lakey

PS: Gottabrain, his last name is not Gonzales or even Cadona, it is Carmona, Hector Carmona!

Oh...okay. I Googled Hector's name and I see it's already public info.

I had accidentally run into Hector almost 30 years ago on the phone from where I was working at the time. I was surprised that he was no longer in the SO. He explained to me that he was kicked out because of his inability to make up his mind sexually and told me that he had lots of auditing on it and they tried to handle him every way they could think of in session, but nothing worked to change him......the tech DIDN'T WORK for him or on him as regards this issue. I was sorry he got kicked out of the SO because I thought he was the best Reg I'd ever known and I felt they had been unfair to him and he seemed kind of bitter about it, but I didn't know the whole scene, if there was more...I only knew what he told me.

I didn't know that he was so open about all this and proud of it. For some reason I got the idea that he was kind of a private person and not wanting to be up for public display in regards to his private life.

I'm sorry to hear he is so up tight and tense. He used to seem kind of laid back when he was a Reg at CC....at least that's the impression I got. He was always very nice to me and willing to spend time to talk to me, which is more than I can say for other staff members and I got that he really cared about people and wanted them to do better in life. I really liked Hector.

Scientology was more fun back then....in the early 70's when SO seemed less pressured and they were allowed to socialize with the public some of the time. We were all more individual people with less restrictions than the public and SO of today, who are tightly regimented and micro managed every waking hour of the day, making life miserable for everybody.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Old Days 1973-Part 5-The $65,000 Reg Cycle

Oh...okay. I Googled Hector's name and I see it's already public info.

I had accidentally run into Hector almost 30 years ago on the phone from where I was working at the time. I was surprised that he was no longer in the SO. He explained to me that he was kicked out because of his inability to make up his mind sexually and told me that he had lots of auditing on it and they tried to handle him every way they could think of in session, but nothing worked to change him......the tech DIDN'T WORK for him or on him as regards this issue. I was sorry he got kicked out of the SO because I thought he was the best Reg I'd ever known and I felt they had been unfair to him and he seemed kind of bitter about it, but I didn't know the whole scene, if there was more...I only knew what he told me.

I didn't know that he was so open about all this and proud of it. For some reason I got the idea that he was kind of a private person and not wanting to be up for public display in regards to his private life.

I'm sorry to hear he is so up tight and tense. He used to seem kind of laid back when he was a Reg at CC....at least that's the impression I got. He was always very nice to me and willing to spend time to talk to me, which is more than I can say for other staff members and I got that he really cared about people and wanted them to do better in life. I really liked Hector.

Scientology was more fun back then....in the early 70's when SO seemed less pressured and they were allowed to socialize with the public some of the time. We were all more individual people with less restrictions than the public and SO of today, who are tightly regimented and micro managed every waking hour of the day, making life miserable for everybody.

On the income and outflow thing, besides the general case which Y'all have been discussing, Hubbard had another use of those words when discussing the Treasury Division of the Org, especially the Department of Income. One of the Treasury VFP's (Valuable Final Products) was "Income greater than outgo plus reserves" This meant that the Org's Income must be greater than its amount spent for goods, services and payroll plus the amounts it needed to allocate to Org reserves.

This VFP was definitely sane. If an Org was regularly spending more than it earned and not making allocations and set asides to reserves and to pay off its debts, that Org was not going to survive for very long. The U.S. government should take notice.

Governments can prolong the process because they have the added "advantage" of being able to print currency. I don't know if this is good or bad but they sure have the power to do it.

Hector told me the exact same info which he told you. No matter how hard the Org tried and he tried, he just could not alter being gay. Also, he said that when he first joined staff he was just an expediter. One day the recruiter did not come in and Yvonne appointed Hector as a temp recruiter. That day, Hector recruited someone to join C.O. Joyce Meyers then appointed him to fill in for someone else for a day and that day he got a great product. People began joking about how able he was - the Org "go to guy". Shortly thereafter, Yvonne called him aside and said that she was making him a registrar. Again on his first day he sold a good sized package to a Celebrity. That is how he got to be the lead reg.

Yvonne then told him that he needed to dress like a Celebrity Reg and that he needed to fix up the Reg Office with luxury touches. Hector began wearing slacks, dress shirt and tie with a very nice sports coat. He started getting his hair and mustache styled professionally. Next he went to work on his office. Elegant furniture was procured and then a silver coffee and tea service complete with a linen tablecloth and silver stirring spoons. (Miscavige would have been thrilled, the registrars' office began to look like an IDEAL ORG!) Finally, when I joined Sea Org and gave up my apartment, I was trying to sell a large sea scape painting which I had purchased. Hector offered me $100 for it and I sold it to him and it was in his office for years.

Hector was quite a guy, virtually everyone's favorite reg of all time!
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

apropos of nothing

[video=youtube;hN0AAbV502s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN0AAbV502s&feature=fvsr[/video]

 

[Leon]

Squirrel course supervising

I was reminded this morning of an incident that happened years and years ago at the Org in Cape Town. In the academy - before the policy on What is a Course was dreamed up.

A particular student always rocked up late for class. Always. He just couldn't handle time. So one day when this guy showed up late the supervisor stopped the class and had the guy who was late get up and stand on a desk. Then everyone present was told to admire the guy for his amazing ability to always be late. So they clapped and applauded and cheered andtotally flowed admiration to this fellow for his ability. Then he started laughing too and blew his stuckness on it all. He was never late again and told all how it had become effortless to be punctual.

An action such as this by the super is now completely illegal and will get him busted. Guys have to go to ethics for punishment and amends projects. That 's what "Standard Tech" is now.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: apropos of nothing

[video=youtube;hN0AAbV502s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN0AAbV502s&feature=fvsr[/video]

This was a landmark song!
I remember this song very well. As I recall, it was one of the earliest songs which became referred to as rhythm and blues.

There was a weekly TV Show, something like "Your Hit Parade" which played the top ten songs of the week. I recall one of the singers was Snookie Lanson, another was Julius La Rosa and one of the women singers was Teresa Brewer.

In 1951 and 1952, there was nothing even approaching 50's rhythm and blues. The top hits were songs by Frankie Lane, Patti Page, Peggy Lee. Some of the ones I remember well were "Ghost Riders in the Sky" and "Wild Goose" by Laine, "Manana", "Glow Little Glow Worm" and "How much is that Doggie in the Window". Frank Sinatra even had "Love and Marriage", Dean Martin had, "I Only Have Eyes for You". Nat "King" Cole had "Mona Lisa".

Around mid 1953 "Mr. Sandman" appeared as well as "Shaboom". Those two had much more of a beat. They were pretty tame by today's standards but by 50's standards, but by the standards of 1954 they were wild and outrageous. They formed the bridge to the age of 50's type Rock and Roll. Within a year, the whole record industry was completely remade with 50's type Rock and Roll. Elvis arrived along with Fats Domino, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Rick Nelson and a huge number of talented and memorable groups.
Lakey

 

[FoTi]

Re: apropos of nothing

This was a landmark song!
I remember this song very well. As I recall, it was one of the earliest songs which became referred to as rhythm and blues.

There was a weekly TV Show, something like "Your Hit Parade" which played the top ten songs of the week. I recall one of the singers was Snookie Lanson, another was Julius La Rosa and one of the women singers was Teresa Brewer.

In 1951 and 1952, there was nothing even approaching 50's rhythm and blues. The top hits were songs by Frankie Lane, Patti Page, Peggy Lee. Some of the ones I remember well were "Ghost Riders in the Sky" and "Wild Goose" by Laine, "Manana", "Glow Little Glow Worm" and "How much is that Doggie in the Window". Frank Sinatra even had "Love and Marriage", Dean Martin had, "I Only Have Eyes for You". Nat "King" Cole had "Mona Lisa".

Around mid 1953 "Mr. Sandman" appeared as well as "Shaboom". Those two had much more of a beat. They were pretty tame by today's standards but by 50's standards, but by the standards of 1954 they were wild and outrageous. They formed the bridge to the age of 50's type Rock and Roll. Within a year, the whole record industry was completely remade with 50's type Rock and Roll. Elvis arrived along with Fats Domino, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Rick Nelson and a huge number of talented and memorable groups.
Lakey

I loved all these old songs of the 40's and 50's. They used to play "Mr Sandman" on the radio the last thing before they went off the air at night.....I used to listen to it every night before I went to sleep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umfRT7MgTu0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-_8XOrvTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsA7HQXXBE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPTa278dZY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjZHBiuNPg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0zc7x434Aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDjAN8sKb1A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPLSo3U46Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oq0-5c9YdA&feature=related

Oops....guess I got kind of carried away here.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: apropos of nothing

I loved all these old songs of the 40's and 50's. They used to play "Mr Sandman" on the radio the last thing before they went off the air at night.....I used to listen to it every night before I went to sleep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umfRT7MgTu0&feature=related

........snipped..........

Oops....guess I got kind of carried away here.

WHAT IS GREATNESS?

When you talk about the 40's, you are talking the Andrews Sisters, Patti, Laverne and Maxine from Minneapolois.

They made it big with a #1 hit, "Bei mir bist du schoen" (To me you are pretty) in both Yiddish and German. In 1941 they co-starred in their first movie, Buck Privates, starng Abbot and Costello. In that movie, they had another huge #1 hit song, "The Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B". The video of that song, taken from the movie, is shown below. BTW, Patti Andrews, the groups lead singer, is still living and is 95 years old now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfCFU3Mqww

I saw this movie at age 6 1/2 or 7 in 1946 or 1947. When this number came up, it made a huge impression on me which I have never forgot. My brother Clarence Rockaway is a great Andrews Sisters fan. In the days of 8 track tapes, he bought up everything they ever sang in the 8 track format. I think they are the best singing sisters group of all time!

Am I imagining it or is their more spirit alive in the air back there in 1941 than there is now? The spirit of play and really having fun seems to be very present on that movie set. The persona seemed to be aware that it was all a game and nobody looks very serious. Maybe it was just the excitement of working in Hollywood on a movie set like that.
Lakey

 

[Ted]

Re: apropos of nothing

WHAT IS GREATNESS?

[...]

Am I imagining it or is their more spirit alive in the air back there in 1941 than there is now? The spirit of play and really having fun seems to be very present on that movie set. The persona seemed to be aware that it was all a game and nobody looks very serious. Maybe it was just the excitement of working in Hollywood on a movie set like that.
Lakey

It's just a different culture.

Check out the Pupinni Sisters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVTpeYjJEPs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvpThS7zfQ8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP12M_NDHBc&feature=related