RogerB
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Yes, dealing with make self-right machines is tough
R
Yes, dealing with make self-right machines is tough R
The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But
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Terril park
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Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
Yes I think you have a point.
Being natural clear the little dianetic auditing I recieved seemed to be
mocking up things a la creative processing.
With FPRD once I got into FPRD everything went whole track. This
included recalls of things pre the mest universe.
There are two other well known rundowns that delve into evil purposes, XDN and the L's.
On L-11 I expanded my FPRD wins and went to what seems to be the start of track. Leaving God or the original body of theta. L-11 is the usual start and mildest L.
I should also note that I did the FPRD on my own initiative because I read the materials and having run all this lifetime O/Ws more than once,
and still feeling some self restraint I figured I needed to run whole track
O/Ws and evil purposes.
Note that in FPRD, specially if one is running incidents without a body,
the Prior Confusion is I suspect equivalent to a shock or engram.
Yes I think you have a point.
Being natural clear the little dianetic auditing I recieved seemed to be
mocking up things a la creative processing.
With FPRD once I got into FPRD everything went whole track. This
included recalls of things pre the mest universe.
There are two other well known rundowns that delve into evil purposes, XDN and the L's.
On L-11 I expanded my FPRD wins and went to what seems to be the start of track. Leaving God or the original body of theta. L-11 is the usual start and mildest L.
I should also note that I did the FPRD on my own initiative because I read the materials and having run all this lifetime O/Ws more than once,
and still feeling some self restraint I figured I needed to run whole track
O/Ws and evil purposes.
Note that in FPRD, specially if one is running incidents without a body,
the Prior Confusion is I suspect equivalent to a shock or engram.
I told you I was trouble
Suspended animation
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Well, I was exaggerating a little.
The portrait of LRH jumped off of the wall.
Well, I was exaggerating a little.
The portrait of LRH jumped off of the wall.
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
Or vice versa.
BTW, can anyone 'splain " natural clear " when there ain't no " clear".
How can there be a "natual : version of something that doesn't exist ?
This shit, at best, is minorly amusing.
PS - without exception absolutely evet person I have personally ever known that attested to " natural clear " was a garden variety fly weight nut case.
Jus sayin'.
Or vice versa.
BTW, can anyone 'splain " natural clear " when there ain't no " clear".
How can there be a "natual : version of something that doesn't exist ?
This shit, at best, is minorly amusing.
PS - without exception absolutely evet person I have personally ever known that attested to " natural clear " was a garden variety fly weight nut case.
Jus sayin'.
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
Some people have lots of evil purposes.
Some people have lots of evil purposes.
I told you I was trouble
Suspended animation
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
Lol ...
We were all 'GVFWNC's' when we attested to (any kind of) 'Clear' ... but most of us now know that and have moved on.
Or vice versa.
BTW, can anyone 'splain " natural clear " when there ain't no " clear".
How can there be a "natual : version of something that doesn't exist ?
This shit, at best, is minorly amusing.
PS - without exception absolutely evet person I have personally ever known that attested to " natural clear " was a garden variety fly weight nut case.
Jus sayin'.
Lol ...
We were all 'GVFWNC's' when we attested to (any kind of) 'Clear' ... but most of us now know that and have moved on.
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
"The term "cargo cult" has been used metaphorically to describe an attempt to recreate successful outcomes by replicating circumstances associated with those outcomes, although those circumstances are either unrelated to the causes of outcomes or insufficient to produce them by themselves. In the former case, this is an instance of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
The metaphorical use of "cargo cult" was popularized by physicist Richard Feynman at a 1974 Caltech commencement speech, which later became a chapter in his book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!, where he coined the phrase "cargo cult science" to describe science that had some of the trappings of real science (such as publication in scientific journals) but lacked a basis in honest experimentation".
"Superstition is a belief in supernatural causality: that one event leads to the cause of another without any physical process linking the two events[citation needed]; a false conception of causality, such as astrology, omens, witchcraft, etc, that contradicts natural science".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition
Well, I was exaggerating a little.
"The term "cargo cult" has been used metaphorically to describe an attempt to recreate successful outcomes by replicating circumstances associated with those outcomes, although those circumstances are either unrelated to the causes of outcomes or insufficient to produce them by themselves. In the former case, this is an instance of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
The metaphorical use of "cargo cult" was popularized by physicist Richard Feynman at a 1974 Caltech commencement speech, which later became a chapter in his book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!, where he coined the phrase "cargo cult science" to describe science that had some of the trappings of real science (such as publication in scientific journals) but lacked a basis in honest experimentation".
"Superstition is a belief in supernatural causality: that one event leads to the cause of another without any physical process linking the two events[citation needed]; a false conception of causality, such as astrology, omens, witchcraft, etc, that contradicts natural science".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition
Veda
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
And the was at the 2011 Freezone Convention.
Can you link to which portrait of LRH it was?
Well, I was exaggerating a little.
And the was at the 2011 Freezone Convention.
Can you link to which portrait of LRH it was?
I told you I was trouble
Suspended animation
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
I believe it was this one Veda (I expect all that jiggling about would have done it).
I believe it was this one Veda (I expect all that jiggling about would have done it).
lkwdblds
Crusader
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
Whatever it takes to get someone to leave, almost by definition would be valid tech.
Lakey
Whatever it takes to get someone to leave, almost by definition would be valid tech.
Lakey
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
Auditor's Toad
Clear as Mud
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Cargo cult... does that mean it was designed for people with baggage ?
"The term "cargo cult" has been used metaphorically to describe an attempt to recreate successful outcomes by replicating circumstances associated with those outcomes, although those circumstances are either unrelated to the causes of outcomes or insufficient to produce them by themselves. In the former case, this is an instance of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
The metaphorical use of "cargo cult" was popularized by physicist Richard Feynman at a 1974 Caltech commencement speech, which later became a chapter in his book Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!, where he coined the phrase "cargo cult science" to describe science that had some of the trappings of real science (such as publication in scientific journals) but lacked a basis in honest experimentation".
"Superstition is a belief in supernatural causality: that one event leads to the cause of another without any physical process linking the two events[citation needed]; a false conception of causality, such as astrology, omens, witchcraft, etc, that contradicts natural science".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition
Cargo cult... does that mean it was designed for people with baggage ?
Smilla
Ordinary Human
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
Maybe Ron will answer people's prayers and come back, but not like a picture falling off a wall?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDYeKrgg8Q
Maybe Ron will answer people's prayers and come back, but not like a picture falling off a wall?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDYeKrgg8Q
FoTi
Crusader
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
What does GVFWNC mean?
Lol ...
We were all 'GVFWNC's' when we attested to (any kind of) 'Clear' ... but most of us now know that and have moved on.
What does GVFWNC mean?
The_Fixer
Class Clown
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
garden variety fly weight nut case.
Refer to post #15688.
Hope that helps FoTi.
garden variety fly weight nut case.
Refer to post #15688.
Hope that helps FoTi.
RogerB
Crusader
Re: Ken Ogger, The Pilot speaks from the dead
Oh, Toady . .
I see you are back to your rare, among we humans, delightful, pugnacious, hilarious, brilliant form
You are one of the few who cause me to often burst into laughter on reading your posts . . . hey Ted, your missing some fun!
R
Oh, Toady . .
I see you are back to your rare, among we humans, delightful, pugnacious, hilarious, brilliant form
You are one of the few who cause me to often burst into laughter on reading your posts . . . hey Ted, your missing some fun!
R
afaceinthecrowd
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973
This post has absolutely nothing to do what so ever with Ted’s post the other day...I was already planning on writing this post a few days ago but just hadn’t gotten around to it.
The only reason I came back around was to correct something for the Historical record on the Thread. That having been done--in my opinion most splendidly thanks to yet another Above and Beyond the Call Grand Confection served up by Cakemaker--I’m gonna go back to reader mode.
I’ll pipe up if something Scn historical or strong personal interest comes up and will post a Link when I post something on the Board that is germane to the OP of this Thread and its historical vein.
I’ve already previously bid my adieus.
Later Gators.
Peace.
Face
This post has absolutely nothing to do what so ever with Ted’s post the other day...I was already planning on writing this post a few days ago but just hadn’t gotten around to it.
The only reason I came back around was to correct something for the Historical record on the Thread. That having been done--in my opinion most splendidly thanks to yet another Above and Beyond the Call Grand Confection served up by Cakemaker--I’m gonna go back to reader mode.
I’ll pipe up if something Scn historical or strong personal interest comes up and will post a Link when I post something on the Board that is germane to the OP of this Thread and its historical vein.
I’ve already previously bid my adieus.
Later Gators.
Peace.
Face
Helena Handbasket
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So What Did Happen To Ken Ogger?
Helena
I contacted Ken in solo session years after his death. He had been put into a state where he was miserable, unable to pick up a new body, and unable to do anything about it. Using advanced solo techniques, I was able to find the specific charge that did this and run it out. I don't know what happened to him after that, but I'd like to think he was able to move on and start a new lifetime if he wanted to.
Helena
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