LRH on how to get a murder confession with an e-meter/auditing

[Anonycat]

In this 1958 lecture, LRH answers questions including some about auditing. He mentions the auditing question: "is there something I shouldn't ask you?", and he comes back to it here:

"Is there something I shouldn't ask you. By the way, that's a wonderful parlor game. You wanna you wanna put somebody on a lie detector sometime because you suspect him of something and get him to take a hold of a pair uh of cans. Uh, you shouldn't launch into the sordid details of the whole thing because the surprise will amount to an ARC break and (obscure?) the meter which will been there not to been there read for you. (??)

Is there something I shouldn't ask you, you know you say well, um do you do this and that and uh uh squeeze the cans and uh uh uh put him through a little drill one kind 'nother and say: is there something I shouldn't ask you.

They don't interpret this at once as a frontal attack - but this is the one thing they're thinking of! There's something he shouldn't say!

Now if there's a big withhold here, or a lie or a mis-demeanor of some kind or another, that is right there boy, that thing will start falling off the pin you can stand there a half hour straightening it out - and the person - being guilty as hell - being detected utterly, will sit right there holding the cans, it just never occurs to him to put the cans down. He's so engrossed! In this uh defeating you from asking this question.

It's quite remarkable and what is the question I shouldn't ask you? Well, he'll think about it ya know right straight on and you'll give him another drop and you can shake out the answers; he'll sit right there. It's just as though as if he's being asked to step up and confess he committed murder, you know, duh he'll he'll, he'll step right up and confess that he's committed murder.

Uh, you don't take a pair uh cans and say now I'm going to find out whether or not you swiped the crockery. You know, or whether or not you got in the cookie jar. No, because he'll throw the cans down. See about the only possible approach is, is there something that I shouldn't ask you.

 

[Anonycat]

give him

Correction: *GET another drop.

 

[ClearedSP]

I find it kind of fascinating, the way LRH got totally obsessed with sec checking and o/w pulling during a period when he was repeatedly getting caught, cheating on his auditor.

 

[Anonycat]

I find it kind of fascinating, the way LRH got totally obsessed with sec checking and o/w pulling during a period when he was repeatedly getting caught, cheating on his auditor.

There is more "creepy" to mine from this lecture!

LRH, 1958 at the same Q&A with auditors and PCs present.

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it's uh, uh pretty wild - it's pretty wild. And uh the other one uh is what else are you doing there too I (gibberish) handed the other out and all your instructors know it "what else are you doing", heh ... fine, you're doing the command but what else are you doing? "you must understand the process, not the incantation."

 

[Idle Morgue]

and remind them that they have been around for 76 fucking trillion years... surely there will be a read at some point

 

[Anonycat]

Why you wouldn't want to apply scientology to a marriage!

More from the same lecture:

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PC came in sat down one time my PC chair and he says, uh, well, he says: we gotta get at this in a hurry. And he said we've got to get something done today, because I've got to prove it to my wife that I haven't been wasting all of my money. (smattering of laughter)

You know what he got for the next two and a half hours! (smattering of laughter)

He got his wife run. (silence) We got her off case, therefore we got 2 and a half hours of auditing. (Of five?). Worked perfectly.

When he got home? (nagging voice: ) Well, I suppose you wasted some more money yap yap yap this stuff ya know CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP!
Arc breaks ARC breaks, dramatize dramatize, more ARC breaks ya know? He told me the next morning he'd coolly told her: Well, for two and a half hours we ran you! (loud laughter)

Nagging voice: well what about me jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab inignogh.

We ran problems of comparable magnitude to you. (laughter)