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the secret of exteriorization

petal

Patron Meritorious
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that most people, are most of the time exterior. Ha, Ha, ha!

They do not know it.

All the old tech was not to exteriorize the person from the body but to become aware that one was already exterior.
Ha, ha, ha.

petal
 

CO2

Patron Meritorious
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that most people, are most of the time exterior. Ha, Ha, ha!

They do not know it.

All the old tech was not to exteriorize the person from the body but to become aware that one was already exterior.
Ha, ha, ha.

petal

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as Dr. Watson was fond of saying, "No shit?! Sherlock"
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that most people, are most of the time exterior. Ha, Ha, ha!

They do not know it.

All the old tech was not to exteriorize the person from the body but to become aware that one was already exterior.
Ha, ha, ha.

petal


This is true.
 

Gib

Crusader
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that most people, are most of the time exterior. Ha, Ha, ha!

They do not know it.

All the old tech was not to exteriorize the person from the body but to become aware that one was already exterior.
Ha, ha, ha.

petal

The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that [STRIKE]most people, are most of the time exterior.[/STRIKE] there is no reactive mind. Ha, Ha, ha!

But people do react. Ha Ha Ha!
 

Ogsonofgroo

Crusader
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that most people, are most of the time exterior. Ha, Ha, ha!

They do not know it.

All the old tech was not to exteriorize the person from the body but to become aware that one was already exterior.
Ha, ha, ha.

petal


Okay, I'm bored so I'll spend a second or three on this one.

It is not a secret, though suppressed by numerous abstractions over the years/centuries, the answers have been there. Unfortunately for humanity, such creatures as Scientology exist.
To me, our 'exterioirization', is not so much that you are leaving your body to go trip around/what-ever, but that as your sense of awareness expands around you, into the world, a part of you does, or can, indeed project an awareness beyond the confines of one's body.
It is my humble opinion that in order to do this there are several considerations to be made before you can become yourself and connect with such a device of nature, primarily words, the chatter around you, the chatter in your own brain. Unless you learn to use them/it, it tends to take people away from their inner center (through many devices imho), a being ends up dividing it's own self with them.

I suggest that Hubbard never conquered words. He created a bunch, he used them like a lawn-mower, and he bloated his con with them, but his mind was plagued with them, so badly that he could never, ever, become his real self, and, though it seemed like a good idea at the time, he poisoned the possibilities of many a good person, by creating more shit to think about.
It is my opinion that words divide people, internally, thusly, that there is a point where either you control how and why you use them, or they will use you. In the latter instance, when you are used by words, you become a thinkin' machine, the less control you have over it, the further you travel from the inner being you actually are, the words become a bit more than your world, but end up cutting you off from it.
Try looking at it this way: When you think (in words) to yourself, you, or part of you maybe, is sending a message, and receiving the message. Who. Is. Receiving. It.? That'd be the 'real you' imho. The person inside. The one, who in simpler times/lives, could pick and choose the thoughts they hold, and use the 'thinking' as a tool of communication rather than abstraction. The consciousness has become divided.
Nobody did it better than Hubbard, because its still going on. Hitler (ack godwin!), Stalin, Mao, Caesar, and many more don't have a thing on the old windbag. He tried to control natural beings in his work, his favorite thingy (control), as because it is so flawed and abstract, has done more damage than good in the world. In fact, the 'good' parts are so spread out and diffused, they have no substance imho, none,nada, sweet-fuck-all.
The great over-think happened, as many times before, and it is never a pretty thing.
Though this is probably a fairly convoluted thought, hell, my mission is to say the same thought a thousand different ways, same almost as a 'thousand cuts' only not that.

'Self-centered' can mean a lot of different things,the ideal can be surprising. Namaste , please get better brother.

I leave you with this wee thought Petal, in hopes you can one day find yourself.

Adios non-comprende!

:cheers: All!
 
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Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that [STRIKE]most people, are most of the time exterior.[/STRIKE] there is no reactive mind. Ha, Ha, ha!

But people do react. Ha Ha Ha!


You can go on with this for quite a while and eventually . . . you will realize . . . that there is no . . . physical universe.

It is all illusion.
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
You can go on with this for quite a while and eventually . . . you will realize . . . that there is no . . . physical universe.

It is all illusion.

Are you willing to let someone pull an R2-45 on you and find out?

That is the only exteriorizarion possible in this body - the thinking, feeling part of you, the bits of the meat body that contain sensations and emotions that earlier, superstitious generations called spirit or soul, but was really a control mechanism on the intellect, goes flying out of you body, along with 220 grains of lead at over 800 feet per second.

Unfortunately, you can only do it once, solipsistic pieties to the contrary notwithstanding.
 

Teanntás

Silver Meritorious Patron
Are you willing to let someone pull an R2-45 on you and find out?

That is the only exteriorizarion possible in this body - the thinking, feeling part of you, the bits of the meat body that contain sensations and emotions that earlier, superstitious generations called spirit or soul, but was really a control mechanism on the intellect, goes flying out of you body, along with 220 grains of lead at over 800 feet per second.

Unfortunately, you can only do it once, solipsistic pieties to the contrary notwithstanding.

"earlier, superstitious generations called spirit or soul"

What planet are you on?
 

SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
The big secret is one of simplicity. It is a secret of immense laughter and joy. the secret is that most people, are most of the time exterior. Ha, Ha, ha!

They do not know it.

All the old tech was not to exteriorize the person from the body but to become aware that one was already exterior.
Ha, ha, ha.

petal
Not exactly.. It's peoples bodies that doesn't exist, bodies are an illusion. So of course they can't help but being exterior.. It's no laughing matter, however. Laughing is a physical effect that the body can make, and since the body doesn't exist! - The good news is that the whole fripping intire physical universe doesn't exist either, which means that the stinking scientology orgs, too, don't exist!

:yes:
 

Helena Handbasket

Gold Meritorious Patron
Okay, so it may be true that we're already exterior. But I don't feel exterior. And I'm NOT talking about perception or havingness, either.

Helena
 

anonomog

Gold Meritorious Patron
Why isn't right here, right now, experiencing life through the vehicle of our existence enough?

If the soul intended for us to live without a body, why did it bother to choose one and go through the tedious years of learning, feeding and caring? Why bother with a body at all?
 
This is true.

yes it is true that at least a large percentage of the population is exterior some of the time but exterior with perception is uncommon and i have looked around and i really don't see any other spiritual director who has come up with as effective a system for producing and enhancing exteriorization...

nor as good a nomenclature...

it isn't easy working up a vocabulary for spiritual realities and lrh/csi has done well here
 
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