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Type4_PTS

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I just watched this new video posted earlier this morning on Tony's blog.

Great video Karen and Pope! :thumbsup:


[video=youtube;DK2HPSVIvFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK2HPSVIvFo[/video]
 

Bea Kiddo

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I just watched this new video posted earlier this morning on Tony's blog.

Great video Karen and Pope! :thumbsup:


[video=youtube;DK2HPSVIvFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK2HPSVIvFo[/video]

Ah. Brings back fond memories. The first time I was on the RPF's RPF I was 17 years old. I got put on some nasty work and hard labor. We were pounding concrete slabs trying to remove them (They were raised concrete sections in the old CLO building at PAC). 10 hours a day at it.

I don't know how many times I was on the RPF's RPF. I lost count. I would say at least 5 different times between 1989 and 2001.

Then the lovely rats alley cleaning.

We need some video footage of the rats alley. There is nothing like it.
 

Type4_PTS

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Ah. Brings back fond memories. The first time I was on the RPF's RPF I was 17 years old. I got put on some nasty work and hard labor. We were pounding concrete slabs trying to remove them (They were raised concrete sections in the old CLO building at PAC). 10 hours a day at it.

I don't know how many times I was on the RPF's RPF. I lost count. I would say at least 5 different times between 1989 and 2001.

Then the lovely rats alley cleaning.

We need some video footage of the rats alley. There is nothing like it.


You got me beat Bea and it's not even close. :melodramatic:

I was on the RPF's RPF once, briefly, back at the beginning of 1989 in Clearwater.

Shortly thereafter while doing ethics conditions I realized that I wanted to prematurely end my Sea Org career. I was only about 1 year into the billion year contract.

Even though wanting to leave the S.O., I was still very much a believer at that point and had the strong (and genuine) intention of becoming a power FSM, and continuing my work to expand Scn into other countries.

But shortly after announcing my decision to leave the Sea Org I was swiftly routed over to Security and tossed out on the street (with my Goldenrod ;)

That was the best thing that anyone in Scientology EVER did for me during my 10 years in. :thumbsup:

While I greatly miss some of my friends I had within the CoS at that time, it was a great opportunity to reconnect with my family which I had alienated over the preceding 10 years by applying Scientology.
 

Karen#1

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*New video* Part 2 The Hoax of "Spiritual Advancement" by thuggery, abuse and domination.

The "Church" of Scientology believes in punishment and ABUSE. It gets away with it using 1st amendment rights "Religion" "Religious Discipline" " Ecclesiastical.." If Scientology Inc was benign, if it had any sense of self-decency and kindness, there would be nothing to talk about it. There would be no blogs, no message boards, no Scientology groups on Facebook that post horror stories, no twitter messages. no Internet rah rah. All this occurs because Scientology Inc is an abusive abhorrent hate group and the Internet is in uproar about it.

http://youtu.be/DK2HPSVIvFo
 

Boojuum

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[video=youtube_share;ThomT6rBD_U]http://youtu.be/ThomT6rBD_U[/video]

Thanks Karen, another fabulous video!

The longer I'm out of the COS, the more I have come to realize the destructive nature of the various humiliation processes.

If you're assigned a lower condition or taken off post or sent to the RPF or the RPF's RPF, you are publicly humiliated. This happens again and again and again to any staff or SO member.

I have found the long term effects to cause people to withdraw, become meek, and to readily almost eagerly admit to personal shortcomings.

The punishments of Scientology are confidence-stripping. I see it in those newly out of the cult--they carefully couch their explanations for leaving, as if leaving the cult is some horrible overt act. (That's how I felt after leaving--as if I was pleading my case to LRH, begging for understanding and forgiveness.)


I think it's a mark of recovery when someone simply states that the COS just plain sucked--no explanation, no humility, just a confident, "Boy did I screw up, I left because those guys are assholes in about 1 thousand ways."
 

Karen#1

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Courtesy of the Tampa Bay Times series entitled "The Truth Rundown."
Never once reported to Law Enforcement, Tommy Davis screams hysterically with righteous indignation while describing daily assault and battery in detail.
THEY NEVER ONCE CALLED LAW ENFORCEMENT OR REPORTED THE DAILY VIOLENCE.
They were in cahoots with a culture of violence and kept it under wraps....
This is a stunning expose of abuse at the top level of the Church of Scientology.
Listen to what goes on at the highest levels, Kicked, punched, hit, body slammed, assault and battery.
This is a "One flew over the Cuckoo's nest" Headquarters of Insanity.
This portrayal of violence is out of the mouth of their chief former spokesman Tommy Davis.
The Hoax and Scam is that they claim to make high spiritually evolved beings.
They could not even control madhouse beatings on their own turf !

http://youtu.be/6ShE3Kb2UUc
 

Boojuum

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Courtesy of the Tampa Bay Times series entitled "The Truth Rundown."
Never once reported to Law Enforcement, Tommy Davis screams hysterically with righteous indignation while describing daily assault and battery in detail.
THEY NEVER ONCE CALLED LAW ENFORCEMENT OR REPORTED THE DAILY VIOLENCE.
They were in cahoots with a culture of violence and kept it under wraps....
This is a stunning expose of abuse at the top level of the Church of Scientology.
Listen to what goes on at the highest levels, Kicked, punched, hit, body slammed, assault and battery.
This is a "One flew over the Cuckoo's nest" Headquarters of Insanity.
This portrayal of violence is out of the mouth of their chief former spokesman Tommy Davis.
The Hoax and Scam is that they claim to make high spiritually evolved beings.
They could not even control madhouse beatings on their own turf !

http://youtu.be/6ShE3Kb2UUc



Very interesting testimony. Thanks for posting!

--I don't know much about court procedures but why is it okay for someone like Tommy Davis to rant about Marty when the trial isn't about Marty?

--Tommy has once again shown what the top dog of the COS is made of, deep down he is a lying thug who has created an environment where violence and yelling and screaming and punching are part of the culture. "Hey, Scientology guys! Screaming is what people do on the Jerry Springer Show. Punching and kicking is what happens when you watch 'Goodfellas'. Church folks don't that unless they're about to be indicted which is probably what will happen to more Scienos if you keep yelling. Yelling REDUCES CREDIBILITY AND MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A THUG.":duh:

--How much coaching do you think Tommy got before this testimony?

--How many times did you roll your eyes during the testimony?

--It's the lying that bugs me. Very, very, very bad juju for Tommy.
 

RogerB

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*New video* Part 2 The Hoax of "Spiritual Advancement" by thuggery, abuse and domination.

The "Church" of Scientology believes in punishment and ABUSE. It gets away with it using 1st amendment rights "Religion" "Religious Discipline" " Ecclesiastical.." If Scientology Inc was benign, if it had any sense of self-decency and kindness, there would be nothing to talk about it. There would be no blogs, no message boards, no Scientology groups on Facebook that post horror stories, no twitter messages. no Internet rah rah. All this occurs because Scientology Inc is an abusive abhorrent hate group and the Internet is in uproar about it.

http://youtu.be/DK2HPSVIvFo

Oh . . . WOW !!!

Karen that is the most hard hitting, truthful and revealing exposé of the disgusting scenario hidden within the cult of Scientology I've seen. This tops all of the prior videos in my view.

As I now consider it, I can only say there is NO justification for that behavior by ANY group of human beings . . . it is truly an insane situation that this conduct is being carried out by the "leaders" and senior management of the Scientology cult operations against their fellow human beings.

It is such a tragedy that such power is in the hands of insane leadership and management there. I saw the beginnings of it in 1968 in the UK . . . power in the hands of the insane to which group members had no real recourse . . . even though "policy" says there is "recourse" . . . the actuality is that once you are mislabeled as an "ethics particle," you are in actuality cut off from any availability of recourse . . . that's what I saw and experienced in London/UK in '68-'69. This because "your only terminal" available to obtain recourse is from the idiots who are enforcing the wrong label on you.

And then, from '82 onwards it became even more intensely insane wherein absolute evil was added to the mix of the practice of the cult's subjugation and domination "ethics" tech.

The cult is destroying itself . . . for that is a definition of insanity: deliberate self destruction. But the tragedy is that so many fine people have been and are trapped in the system and will suffer damage in the progress of the cult's self destroy . . . .

RogerB
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

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Thank you Roger for telling us what you were aware of in 1968.

So we have at least 45 years of the developmentof this scourge. I believe it existed in the 50's from the reports I have read, and was a psychopathology carried by Hubbard himself per a glimpse we can get in the stories about how he treated Polly his first wife.

This is a chromosone if you will, or trait, that instigates and perpetrates so much harm on so many levels in the world. A core factor of man's inhumanity towards not only our species but others as well.

Thus I find it absolutely amazing that given the facts and perponderance of additional evidence, that there are approx 20 'educated' men and women gathered in a court room, a room meant to be used as a forum for applying reason and respect in order to guide equity and sensible actions. Yet these, our fellow educated humans, are forthrightly spitting on the very foundation which provides their livelihood.

Yes, I understand the adversarial aspect of the system, it has its merits. But to what end? This is not justice to the efforts of good men, but a teasonous effort to enable the blackness of the heartless.

Additionaly to turn the anti-slapp law on it's head. :omg:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...Edmund Burke

And

When all good people ..(insert youtube video) I've seen all good men YOUR MOVE by YES

and Universal Soldier by Buffy Saint-Marie www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGWsGyNsw00
 

Boojuum

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Oh . . . WOW !!!

Karen that is the most hard hitting, truthful and revealing exposé of the disgusting scenario hidden within the cult of Scientology I've seen. This tops all of the prior videos in my view.

As I now consider it, I can only say there is NO justification for that behavior by ANY group of human beings . . . it is truly an insane situation that this conduct is being carried out by the "leaders" and senior management of the Scientology cult operations against their fellow human beings.

It is such a tragedy that such power is in the hands of insane leadership and management there. I saw the beginnings of it in 1968 in the UK . . . power in the hands of the insane to which group members had no real recourse . . . even though "policy" says there is "recourse" . . . the actuality is that once you are mislabeled as an "ethics particle," you are in actuality cut off from any availability of recourse . . . that's what I saw and experienced in London/UK in '68-'69. This because "your only terminal" available to obtain recourse is from the idiots who are enforcing the wrong label on you.

And then, from '82 onwards it became even more intensely insane wherein absolute evil was added to the mix of the practice of the cult's subjugation and domination "ethics" tech.

The cult is destroying itself . . . for that is a definition of insanity: deliberate self destruction. But the tragedy is that so many fine people have been and are trapped in the system and will suffer damage in the progress of the cult's self destroy . . . .

RogerB

Totally true Roger. This last round in the Texas courts, regardless of outcome, is simply another dagger into the heart of the abusive COS practices.

I say, welcome to the Age of the Internet where transparency and LRH's tactics of "attack and harass" is exposed for the thuggery it is. Every day more people are seeing the abuse and the tactics that Miscavage is employing. The COS continues its self-destruction.
 

RogerB

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Thank you Roger for telling us what you were aware of in 1968.

So we have at least 45 years of the developmentof this scourge. I believe it existed in the 50's from the reports I have read, and was a psychopathology carried by Hubbard himself per a glimpse we can get in the stories about how he treated Polly his first wife.

Snipped . . .

Well, dchoice . . .

It is what I saw and experienced in late 1967 and '68. This was at the time of the first SO missions . . . it is written up elsewhere on ESMB.

Prior to the creation of the SO there was relative civility among Scientologists.

Yes, with the advent of the "management tech" of '65 and the practice of writing "ethics chits" and the Department of Inspection and Reports, there occurred an insanity of blasting away at people with make-wrong chits . . . :duh:

It is amazing how humans do drop into attacking that which they do not understand or otherwise do not comprehend . . . and that precisely because they do not understand it. It's as though the non-understanding produces in their small little minds so much charge they automatically react with attack . . . quite shocking to observe, actually.

Of course, we now know about Hubbard's ill treatment of his first wives and those he consorted with pre-1952 or so.

But it is the organizational insanity that he brought into being that is shocking . . . and to be honest, it did not particularly manifest in the outer orgs (we now know bad shit was being pulled aboard the ship just prior to then) until that first SO mission in late 1967 to GO WW and then its later trip into London.

R
 

Karen#1

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In this video I explain the concept of "Attacking the Attacker" and I role play a simulated attack on a critic. It is policy of the Church of attack and to attack relentlessly. Watch the attacks on John Sweeny by Tommy Davis ex "Church spokesman". Tommy was coached and trained and billed and drilled to make John Sweeny lose it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaZkCN5tu0
 

Anonycat

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In this video I explain the concept of "Attacking the Attacker" and I role play a simulated attack on a critic. It is policy of the Church of attack and to attack relentlessly. Watch the attacks on John Sweeny by Tommy Davis ex "Church spokesman". Tommy was coached and trained and billed and drilled to make John Sweeny lose it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaZkCN5tu0

Great video, Karen - I'm glad you included the video footage of the guy you knew. As I recall, it was originally titled something like "scientologist goes crazy", but what some people may not have known or understood, is he did exactly as he was taught. Other on-the-street videos have shown exactly the same 'what are your crimes' attacks, typically asking or telling the other person 'you're a pedophile, aren't you. You beat your wife. I can tell' and this kind of thing. It went exactly by the book.

Now, this behavior is known by many more than before, and it is important to know -- especially now, and how it fits into the court cases. Attack those suing, attack the lawyers, the witnesses, and anyone else that is part of the opposition. But in this scenario, it's also their job to get the Judge to rule in their favor. These two things are not compatible. We are now seeing Judges get smart to their antics very quickly, and the fear they'd worked so long and hard for is all but forgotten. 15 lawyers will not impress a Judge, but it may illustrate the loose money, and desperation to prevail. Both bad indications of good morals.

Thanks for another great, and timely video.
 

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Boojuum

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In this video I explain the concept of "Attacking the Attacker" and I role play a simulated attack on a critic. It is policy of the Church of attack and to attack relentlessly. Watch the attacks on John Sweeny by Tommy Davis ex "Church spokesman". Tommy was coached and trained and billed and drilled to make John Sweeny lose it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaZkCN5tu0

Thanks for posting Karen.

To an ex-Scieno, like myself, this is actually a very important tape.

While in, one becomes so indoctrinated into compartmentalizing thinking that you don't realize how much of your own thinking you shut off.

For example, if I were confronted with someone who questioned whether Scientology was valid, I would immediately go into some sort of pre-programmed handling AND pre-programmed understanding. I would handle my response extremely carefully.

If someone had said, "Scientology is just a money making scam for L Ron Hubbard." Internally, my brain would jump to a variety of canned conclusions or methods because I'd want to avoid any bad PR or any PTS situation and I'd be quite scared that I'd mis-handle it OR I'd be overly hopeful that I could handle it and end up with a new Scientologist.

The last thing I'd do would be to simply speak to the person like a normal human being.

The OTVIII in the video was frantically throwing out any ammunition he could think of and his responses were irrelevant to the questions being asked. If he wasn't a member of a paranoid group (Scientology), he could have simply answered the questions in a friendly manner. It's not a crime to get auditing or believe that it works.

A key problem with being a Scientologist is that the belief in the workability of Scientology gets thrown into believing that the practices of the COS is a very good thing. It's very cultish.:omg:
 

Karen#1

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Meet Gary Weber, Former Guardian's Office staff who has come forward
Gary Weber is former Sea Org member and Guardian's Office staff member. This is a first video in an ongoing series.
The illusion that violence within has only occurred in the last 20 years is false. Scientology Inc covers up assault and battery that occurs inside the fortresses does not report it to Law Enforcement because it is "bad Public Relations."
Abortions were ordered wholesale. Gary will be giving more details of the women ordered on to vans, seating 12 of them, and 2 vans with 24 women were herded to Abortion clinics as arranged and ordered by management.

http://youtu.be/6wrb4EX2TqQ
 

Karen#1

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Gary Weber shares with us what happened when his wife got pregnant. In his first video he shared how he was instrumental in the organizing of pregnant women into vans , 12 in a van to various free abortion clinics around Clearwater.
In this video he describes how his wife was punished by being sent to the Gulag. This very baby who his wife was pregnant with in this story is now a young adult who has
Disconnected from him under Church manipulation.
***New Video***
http://youtu.be/zb7Gpzl0cLY
 
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dchoiceisalwaysrs

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Thank you Karen and team.

So many levels of fraud precipitating so many levels of (IRS sanctioned charitable levels of harm :puke::screwy: ). Totally obvious that the men and women in Congress in Washington are abnegating their responsibility while they have coffee with the lobbyist from Scientology front groups. Will any of them stand up and be a true representative or are they all a bunch of wimps fawning over the sly foxes prowling their offices and plying psychopolitical campaigns which are as far as I know sufficient reason for removal of charitable status.

Thank you Gary Weber. :hattip:

Gary Weber shares with us what happened when his wife got pregnant. In his first video he shared how he was instrumental in the organizing of pregnant women into vans , 12 in a van to carious free abortion clinics around Clearwater.
In this video he describes how his wife was punished by being sent to the Gulag. This very baby who his wife was pregnant with in this story is now a young adult who has
Disconnected from him under Church manipulation.
***New Video***
http://youtu.be/zb7Gpzl0cLY
 
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