Religious Child Sex Slavery

[GreyWolf]

This is practiced today in India and Islamic countries.

The video broke my heart.

http://worldcultwatch.org/islam-and...sex-slavery-is-a-shame-on-humanity-worldwide/

Thank you.

Rob

 

[lotus]

I've recently seen documentary with fundamentalist Jews and Islamic sects about little girls 6-8 years old.

All leaders of our countries know about it - unfortunately they don't want to offend such large fundamentalist leaders
for keeping good economic relationships.

Thanks for the link, being aware of it may at least help to grow a lobby against any children abuse from any sect-cult-religion

 

[Lulu Belle]

This is practiced today in India and Islamic countries.

The video broke my heart.

http://worldcultwatch.org/islam-and...sex-slavery-is-a-shame-on-humanity-worldwide/

Thank you.

Rob

God. Great video. Thank you.

 

[Leland]

275 12 year old Christan and Islamic girls were kidnapped last week from a school in Africa by some Islamic Fundamentalist group. It's all over the News. The President of Nigeria has asked for Obamas help to get them back.

 

[Enthetan]

275 12 year old Christan and Islamic girls were kidnapped last week from a school in Africa by some Islamic Fundamentalist group. It's all over the News. The President of Nigeria has asked for Obamas help to get them back.

The group's name is Boko Haram (meaning "Western education is sinful"). They are against any sort of education other than Islamic religious education. In that, they are similar to Scientologists who disdain non-Scn education.

Good luck on getting the girls back. One report has them already across the border in a Muslim area of Chad.

The Nigerian Christians need to arm themselves so they can defend themselves. The government there is ineffective in protecting them.

 

[Enthetan]

This is practiced today in India and Islamic countries.

The video broke my heart.

http://worldcultwatch.org/islam-and...sex-slavery-is-a-shame-on-humanity-worldwide/

Thank you.

Rob

Thank Mohammed for that. He "married" a six year old girl (consummating the marriage when she was nine, and he was in his fifties and she was still playing with dolls). Since Mohammed is declared by Islam to be the perfect man, the practice CANNOT be abolished, because to criticize the practice is to criticize Mohammed, which criticism would be declared to be apostasy, with the critic being subject to death.

Again, somewhat like Scientology.

Mohammed also "married" a 17 year old newlywed Jewish girl, after his forces had raided her village and killed all the men, including her husband (she was the most beautiful of the captives, so he took her for himself). This precedent makes it legitimate for the Boko Haram terrorists to marry off the captured Nigerian girls. Captured infidel women are the property of the Muslims who take them.

 

[Churchill]

This is so tragic. And these types of outrageously barbaric attacks against, in this case, young Christian schoolgirls by Muslim Jihadists cry out for a response from the civilized world.

 

[The_Fixer]

This is so tragic. And these types of outrageously barbaric attacks against, in this case, young Christian schoolgirls by Muslim Jihadists cry out for a response from the civilized world.

Sorry to say, but it did.

Afghanistan.

End result?

Replaced one barbaric regime with another barbaric regime.

Despite everything, it's business as usual.....

Consider this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1DgGAMbIY

The journos are really cheesy, but the point of it is significant.

And something else just as tragic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G39FA4XfgoE

 

[Churchill]

Sorry to say, but it did.

Afghanistan.

End result?

Replaced one barbaric regime with another barbaric regime.

Despite everything, it's business as usual.....

Consider this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1DgGAMbIY

The journos are really cheesy, but the point of it is significant.

And something else just as tragic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G39FA4XfgoE

Well, an effective response, then.

I'm sorry, but no civilization can or should tolerate the kidnaping and sexual slavery of 15 year old girls, and there is no sophistry that can justify it.
The logic that says Afghanistan
was a shithole, and is still one, is only instructive regarding a specific failure of American Foreign policy.
all I said was that the civilized world needs to respond to these outrageous atrocities.

 

[Enthetan]

Well, an effective response, then.

I'm sorry, but no civilization can or should tolerate the kidnaping and sexual slavery of 15 year old girls, and there is no sophistry that can justify it.
The logic that says Afghanistan
was a shithole, and is still one, is only instructive regarding a specific failure of American Foreign policy.
all I said was that the civilized world needs to respond to these outrageous atrocities.

Here's the reality: The United States (and looking at these situations, it's generally the US which provides the majority of troops, equipment, and funding for these kinds of operations) just flat out does not have the resources to fix the world. Not and still maintain our own domestic welfare programs and try to maintain the peace in our own cities.

We just don't.

Just trying to pacify Iraq and Afghanistan has worn us out, and we didn't succeed. You CANNOT pacify a country whose people need a (brave and incorruptible) police officer watching them 24/7 to prevent them from raping, murdering (and perhaps eating) their neighbors. After WW2, we were able to occupy and pacify Germany and Japan, but we were only able to do so because those two societies had law-abiding, orderly cultures.

And now we import the pathologies of the rest of the world's cultures into our own. The UK Telegraph reported in 2009:

UK is violent crime capital of Europe

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.
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Although homicides are lower than the US, the UK's current violent crime rate (robbery, burglary, assault, etc) is much higher than the US rate.

I don't think the UK was that way 40 years ago.

 

[Churchill]

Here's the reality: The United States (and looking at these situations, it's generally the US which provides the majority of troops, equipment, and funding for these kinds of operations) just flat out does not have the resources to fix the world. Not and still maintain our own domestic welfare programs and try to maintain the peace in our own cities.

We just don't.

Just trying to pacify Iraq and Afghanistan has worn us out, and we didn't succeed. You CANNOT pacify a country whose people need a (brave and incorruptible) police officer watching them 24/7 to prevent them from raping, murdering (and perhaps eating) their neighbors. After WW2, we were able to occupy and pacify Germany and Japan, but we were only able to do so because those two societies had law-abiding, orderly cultures.

And now we import the pathologies of the rest of the world's cultures into our own. The UK Telegraph reported in 2009:

UK is violent crime capital of Europe

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

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Although homicides are lower than the US, the UK's current violent crime rate (robbery, burglary, assault, etc) is much higher than the US rate.

I don't think the UK was that way 40 years ago.

You are, sadly, absolutely correct about the U.K.

I think that Iraq was a case where we managed to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. By not securing a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi government, we ceded American influence to the Mullahs in Iran.

One of many geopolitical blunders of an inept administration.

Afghanistan, on the other hand (the graveyard of Empires) was a futile exercise in nation-building, or mission creep as it is called.

Instead of relying on our own Special Forces, and air superiority, including the much maligned drones to decimate the Jihadists, we essentially integrated the Taliban into our ranks, (losing an essential bulwark against Pakistan) the result being that most Allied forces are being killed by Afghan so-called "security" forces.

Afghanistan will revert to the Taliban.

Iraq will fall further under Iranian influence.

An obscene waste of thousands of our bravest who were undone politically.

One person's opinion, but history will judge.

The civilizational war between Radical Islam and Liberal Democracies will last a long, long time,

and unfortunately is a zero sum endeavor.

 

[The_Fixer]

Well, an effective response, then.

I'm sorry, but no civilization can or should tolerate the kidnaping and sexual slavery of 15 year old girls, and there is no sophistry that can justify it.
The logic that says Afghanistan
was a shithole, and is still one, is only instructive regarding a specific failure of American Foreign policy.
all I said was that the civilized world needs to respond to these outrageous atrocities.

I do not disagree with you here.

How do we effect change?

 

[The_Fixer]

Check out this one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6U2nrRJ4HU

Shitty stuff.

EDIT: The girl's got gumption though. Don't see too much of that in the Middle East. Good for her.

 

[Enthetan]

Check out this one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6U2nrRJ4HU

Shitty stuff.

The second episode illustrates the basic problem of Islamic marriage. A groom is required by Islamic law to pay something for his bride (called mahr). This sum is supposed to be the property of the bride, and she keeps it in the event of divorce (think of it as pre-paid alimony). But, as was seen in the second segment at about the 7 minute mark, the father is the one who often keeps the mahr. So, effectively, the father sells the daughter into marriage.

This practice also explains a lot about "honor killing" in Islam, where a girl who loses her virginity outside marriage, even if she was raped, is likely to be killed by her family. Her economic value as a prospective bride has gone to close to zero.

The practice of mahr also accounts for much of the practice of first-cousin marriages. If a girl marries her father's brother's son, then the mahr stays in the extended family.

A poor man with no assets to use for mahr will have extreme difficulty in finding a girl to marry, while a wealthy man will have multiple wives. The issue of the poor man unable to pay for a wife was solved in early Islam by the practice of capturing infidel women and "marrying" them. You see this practice in present day in Nigeria, where close to 300 young Christian schoolgirls were abducted by Muslim raiders, to be sold into marriage.

 

[The_Fixer]

So under all these circumstances, it does become difficult to find an effective solution.

 

[Enthetan]

So under all these circumstances, it does become difficult to find an effective solution.

In the thread "Obamacare and Health Insurance for Sea Org & Staff (USA)" thread, I posted:

The solution to getting health insurance for Scn staff and SO is really very simple.

My message to staff members is:

Leave staff. Just leave. Over the long term, being on staff will destroy your life and health, with or without Obamacare. Just get a real job, with real health insurance, which will also pay you enough to eat food healthier than rice and beans, and have enough free time to get proper sleep, exercise, and recreation.

Have a life. Get married and have some kids.
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It's a similar deal with Islam. It cannot be fixed, it can only be left. One of the primary foundations of Islam is that the Qur'an was dictated by Allah to Mohammad. As such, one cannot say "Oh, that's old data. We've moved beyond that". Can't do it. Can't change what was "dictated by God", as being an eternal truth.

The Qur'an also specifies Mohammad as being the model of conduct to be followed. Mohammad is THE ideal person, so all Muslims should strive to be like him.

And who was Mohammad? Mohammad made his living robbing caravans and looting villages. He was a rapist, murderer, and pedophile. He was a classic psychopath. He hit his child-bride Aisha for leaving the house without permission. The Qur'an explicitly prescribes that arrogant wives are to be beaten.

Islam cannot be "reformed", It can only be left.