Mike Rinder - the EP of scientology

[TG1]

Mike Rinder at http://www.mikerindersblog.org/class-viii-ot-viii/ :

"The real End Phenomena of involvement in the church of scientology is going ALL the way to the bottom of the bridge, sliding right off and realizing you are no longer a scientologist."​

Also, note the capitalization.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Mike Rinder at http://www.mikerindersblog.org/class-viii-ot-viii/ :

"The real End Phenomena of involvement in the church of scientology is going ALL the way to the bottom of the bridge, sliding right off and realizing you are no longer a scientologist."​

Also, note the capitalization.

Remarkable.

Soooooo damn close! I ain't complainin', but Mike is only 3 "added inapplicable" little words off from becoming a full-fledged ESMBologist (SP).

Hope Mike doesn't read this because it's really non-standard to feed someone the EP of Scientology:

"The real End Phenomena of involvement in [STRIKE]the church of [/STRIKE] scientology is going ALL the way to the bottom of the bridge, sliding right off and realizing you are no longer a scientologist."

Scientology Paradox #33: Scientologists cling desperately to the life preserver that something else (other than Hubbard and his tech) is the "source" of Scientology destroying lives. Hey, it's COB! Hey, it's the COS! It's never the COBS (Cult of Bull Shit).

 

[AnonyMary]

Remarkable.

Soooooo damn close! I ain't complainin', but Mike is only 3 "added inapplicable" little words off from becoming a full-fledged ESMBologist (SP).

Hope Mike doesn't read this because it's really non-standard to feed someone the EP of Scientology:

"The real End Phenomena of involvement in [STRIKE]the church of [/STRIKE] scientology is going ALL the way to the bottom of the bridge, sliding right off and realizing you are no longer a scientologist."

Scientology Paradox #33: Scientologists cling desperately to the life preserver that something else (other than Hubbard and his tech) is the "source" of Scientology destroying lives. Hey, it's COB! Hey, it's the COS! It's never the COBS (Cult of Bull Shit).

Hey, it takes as long as it takes

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Hey, it takes as long as it takes

True.

But some still appear to be operating on billion year contracts.

 

[Student of Trinity]

Yeah, I noticed this, too. It's the closest Rinder has come so far, as far as I can see, to saying that Scientology, even as 'a subject' as opposed to 'the Church', is a road to nowhere.

I've actually been impressed that Rinder's blog is not about Mike Rinder's own spiritual journey, or whatever. In contrast to Marty Rathbun's tendency to grandstand, Rinder seems focused and professional, documenting abuses and failures, not talking about himself. He does not appear at all to be setting himself up to be an Indy leader. For that very reason, I think, he has a lot of respect.

His own current views about Scientology would in fact be interesting. Not as a permanent topic, but as one item worth covering. Rinder was an OSA operative (and leader, as I understand), rather than an auditor, so maybe he's just not such a reflective guy. Maybe he always just kind of shrugged and did what he considered his job to be. Maybe that's the only reason his blog has been so impersonal. But still I seem to see a bit of a trend there lately, towards a somewhat more negative tilt about Scientology and Hubbard, and not just about the CofS and David Miscavige.

Not everybody has to be a philosopher. The world needs people who just get stuff done. But that makes it all the worse, when a bad philosophy sucks people into doing the wrong stuff, and thinking it's right.

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

Mike Rinder at http://www.mikerindersblog.org/class-viii-ot-viii/ :

"The real End Phenomena of involvement in the church of scientology is going ALL the way to the bottom of the bridge, sliding right off and realizing you are no longer a scientologist."​

Also, note the capitalization.

Corrected for lucidity: "The real End Phenomena of involvement in The Pestilential and Sinister Scam Cult of Scientology is going, not ALL the way to the bottom of the bridge, but anywhere on it and sliding right off and realizing you are no longer a scientologist."... At which time liberal use of profanities is quite ok, even recommended!

 

[Cat Daddy]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/tannerin1/Frnd/JimnTCv1.gif

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Having achieved the EP...can I also be the "duke of earl"
http://youtu.be/j9PoUsRibtE

 

[CommunicatorIC]

Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Mike Rinder: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/class-viii-ot-viii/

Excerpts:

Kathy-Feshbach-Student-HatKathy, you are the perfect example — you have done virtually everything there is no both sides of the Grade Chart.

You still haven’t achieved the promised land — so back to the beginning and start all over again. Are you going to retread the Levels and Briefing Course and Class VIII? Not to mention restudy the Basics and PTS/SP and Solo Course. After all, you OBVIOUSLY didn’t know how to study when you false attested to all those courses. Right? Are you re-doing the Purif yet? Objectives?

There can be only one point to this. If you can get people to do things that are against their own interest, you have power over them.

It’s what cults do.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Having achieved the EP...can I also be the "duke of earl"
http://youtu.be/j9PoUsRibtE

As I walk through this world

Nothing can stop the Duke of Earl.....

​

"Nothing can stop" = "Total Cause" = "OT" = EP of Scientology

Who knew? Ron had OT fully taped way back in 1962!

 

[FoTi]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Mike Rinder: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/class-viii-ot-viii/

Excerpts:

1. Don't go past any misunderstood words......clear any MUs using a dictionary - clear up word chains if necessary.......use definitions in sentences.....until one feels good about it or F/Ns.

2. Lack of mass phenomenon......have actual object studying......clay demo and/or draw picture of subject to gain mass on subject.

Isn't that basically what the study tech is about?

How could she possibly have made it up the bridge and through all her training without knowing and using the study tech as it's taught in that course?.....and she's thrilled to have to do it again? What kind of a friggin' moron is that woman?

How in the hell do they get people to redo the training they have already done and also pay for it again, even if it is half price for a retrain.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

1. Don't go past any misunderstood words......clear any MUs using a dictionary - clear up word chains if necessary.......use definitions in sentences.....until one feels good about it or F/Ns.

2. Lack of mass phenomenon......have actual object studying......clay demo and/or draw picture of subject to gain mass on subject.

Isn't that basically what the study tech is about?

How could she possibly have made it up the bridge and through all her training without knowing and using the study tech as it's taught in that course?.....and she's thrilled to have to do it again? What kind of a friggin' moron is that woman?

How in the hell do they get people to redo the training they have already done and also pay for it again, even if it is half price for a retrain.

Answer: Scientologists are extraordinarily suggestible.

And they are extremely proud of having mastered Hubbard's concept that "Reality is Agreement" and making it their own.

They think suggestibility is a big win.

 

[anonomog]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

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How could she possibly have made it up the bridge and through all her training without knowing and using the study tech as it's taught in that course?.....and she's thrilled to have to do it again? What kind of a friggin' moron is that woman?

How in the hell do they get people to redo the training they have already done and also pay for it again, even if it is half price for a retrain.

Glad you brought up the moronic bit. But it isn't just the mark that is the fool and I think she is the lesser of the two.

Here is a highly visible, presumably well known individual to churchies, who should be able to walk on water after all her completions. Yes?

Here is the church applauding her for only now being able to study and understand properly. LOLWOT? They are admitting a failure of epic proportions.

Sure, it is always the fault of the person and not the tech, but this is the real world. As much as they don't like that idea.
They are admitting that the highly trained staff training her all the way up the bridge somehow missed that she didn't know here (figurative) ABC's. They let her loose into the wild with all the gifts that OT-ness brings and they are advertising the fact that she probably hadn't a clue what to do with it. Oh, the horror of it!

That the church doesn't understand that the glossy pic of a thrilled thetan holding up a certificate signals their failure on so many levels, is itself further evidence of Scientology's failure. Why not just take out a television ad that says with all the service and services money can buy, even with the best auditing, we failed to train this woman and failed to notice she wasn't trained, all the way up the bridge.

 

[ThetanExterior]

For over 60 years now they've been told that Hubbard's tech is mankind's only hope yet even the most gullible of them must have noticed that the planet is just as fucked-up as it ever was and psychiatry still hasn't been obliterated.

So, they fall for the WHY as being the tech not being used correcty.

But those of us who have graduated from Scientology have got the real Clear cognition - "I was duped".

 

[Terril park]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

1. Don't go past any misunderstood words......clear any MUs using a dictionary - clear up word chains if necessary.......use definitions in sentences.....until one feels good about it or F/Ns.

2. Lack of mass phenomenon......have actual object studying......clay demo and/or draw picture of subject to gain mass on subject.

Isn't that basically what the study tech is about?

How could she possibly have made it up the bridge and through all her training without knowing and using the study tech as it's taught in that course?.....and she's thrilled to have to do it again? What kind of a friggin' moron is that woman?

How in the hell do they get people to redo the training they have already done and also pay for it again, even if it is half price for a retrain.

from Mike Rinder:-

"There can be only one point to this. If you can get people to do things that are against their own interest, you have power over them.

It’s what cults do."

Also consult Hans Christian Andersons childrens tale
The Emperor's New Clothes.

 

[AnonyMary]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Mike Rinder: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/class-viii-ot-viii/

Excerpts:

I wonder if the IRS knows Kathleen Feshbach is giving the cult money which they claimed they didn't have, instead of paying off this interest rising IRS tax lien

Matthew L.Feshbach & Kathleen Feshbach IRS Lien Discharge on Home Sold, Leaving IRS Lien Balance of $ 3,568,951.90

Published by Mary McConnell
Scientology Super Power grad Matthew L. Feshbach & wife Kathleen Feshbach IRS Lien Discharge on Home Sold, Leaving IRS Lien Balance of $ 3,568,951.90 down from $4,254,558.90 as of June 2008. Matthew is Founder, Chairman, and Chief Investment Officer, MLF Investments, LLC .According to his...
( read on and see document )
http://www.scribd.com/doc/71740947/...Sold-Leaving-IRS-Lien-Balance-of-3-568-951-90

My Feshbach collection of docs
http://www.scribd.com/AnonyMary/search?query=feshbach

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

I wonder if the IRS knows Kathleen Feshbach is giving the cult money which they claimed they didn't have, instead of paying off this interest rising IRS tax lien

Matthew L.Feshbach & Kathleen Feshbach IRS Lien Discharge on Home Sold, Leaving IRS Lien Balance of $ 3,568,951.90

Published by Mary McConnell
Scientology Super Power grad Matthew L. Feshbach & wife Kathleen Feshbach IRS Lien Discharge on Home Sold, Leaving IRS Lien Balance of $ 3,568,951.90 down from $4,254,558.90 as of June 2008. Matthew is Founder, Chairman, and Chief Investment Officer, MLF Investments, LLC .According to his...
( read on and see document )
http://www.scribd.com/doc/71740947/...Sold-Leaving-IRS-Lien-Balance-of-3-568-951-90

My Feshbach collection of docs
http://www.scribd.com/AnonyMary/search?query=feshbach

Thanks.

And bankrupt Matt Feshbach is still giving Scientology hopefuls at the orgs his seminars on "How to Achieve Financial Prosperity".

If anyone tried to think of something as stupid as this, it simply wouldn't be possible.

Scientology: Think of the stupidest thing you can. Now think of people going bankrupt in order to study it.

 

[TG1]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

Scientology: Think of the stupidest thing you can. Now think of people going bankrupt in order to study it.

That. Says. It. All.

 

[Gib]

Re: Class VIII, OT VIII, 3 L’s Beginning Scientologist. "It’s what cults do."

How could she possibly have made it up the bridge and through all her training without knowing and using the study tech as it's taught in that course?.....and she's thrilled to have to do it again? What kind of a friggin' moron is that woman?

How in the hell do they get people to redo the training they have already done and also pay for it again, even if it is half price for a retrain.

I guess she forgot about "Arbitraries cancelled" RTC bulletin from June 6, 1999 (15 years ago).

"In many instances this resulted in Clears being programed DOWN the Bridge."

Here's the full document:

https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/arbitraries-cancelled.110536/

Don't forget everybody is being programed to do the purif and the "Survival rundown" or Objectives no matter the case level.