43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Planet

[Reasonable]

Scientology Suppressive person list

If you are considering Scientology here is a good reason not to do it.

I am a very middle of the road person about Scientology. I think it has good and bad points. But the bad is really really bad.

Here is a link to a site of What the Church of Scientology calls “Suppressive Persons “or Suppressive Groups.

A Suppressive person is supposed to be 2% of the population who are truly evil like Hitler.

But Scientologists consider people who are against Scientology as Suppressive.

Therefore if you are against Scientology you are Hitler.

This link below is a List of “Suppressive People and Groups” This insane List is 43 pages long and it is from 1991. So it must be 1043 pages by now.

This is the true insanity of Scientology. Everyone is out to get them any differing opinion is a Hitler. This list has individuals and groups.

Groups like “The Spiritual Awareness Center-----Hitler
Spiritual Holistic Education center-----Hitler—better call homeland security
Revitalization Center---All So Suppressive
The Hunger Project sounds dangerous

So if you go into Scientology be prepared to have your name slandered if you change your mind later on down the road.

http://www.antisectes.net/suppressive-groups-and-individual-soed-2830-1991.pdf

 

[Bea Kiddo]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

I'll bet there are thousands more since the Golden Age of Tech, released 1996!

My dad is on that list above, name misspelled. Ha ha.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

My dad is on that list above, name misspelled. Ha ha.

MY name is also misspelled.

Maybe I can contact IJC's office to see if they can correct the spelling.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

The Hunger Project sounds dangerous

Yes, it really does.

They're attempting to feed downstat people who haven't flowed money to CoS!

 

[dianaclass8]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

I'll bet there are thousands more since the Golden Age of Tech, released 1996!

My dad is on that list above, name misspelled. Ha ha.

My name is not on the list, despite the fact I was declared several years ago. It took them ten years to declare me after I "comitted many supressive acts" LOL

There are too many names missing. A friend told me recently that he was declared and he didn't even know until a friend of his went to Flag and they told him. I think that after those long lists were published the Orgs started hiding the SP 'stats'

 

[Dean Blair]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

It has been twenty years since that list of SPs was created. There have been thousands more who should be added to the list now and the number will only continue to grow.

 

[NonScio]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

Ah, at last! An actual "upstat" for the cult...the ever expanding list
of SPs! Truly, the Golden Age of SPs!

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

This one's 20 years old. I wanna see a new one. I wanna be on it.

I bet it would be a thousand pages long.

 

[Gadfly]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

This one's 20 years old. I wanna see a new one. I wanna be on it.

I bet it would be a thousand pages long.

Yeah me too. I would love to see the most recent listing out of EVERY DECLARED SP. I doubt the Church management will ever let it out of its sight, because such a LONG LIST might not make sense to some or many of the still lemming-like followers.

How can so MANY people, many of whom once took an interest in Scientology, and who took it seriously, NOW look at it so differently. It really throws into question severely Hubbard's 2 1/2 percent statement. It also would throw into question the entire "theory" of SPs as Hubbard defined it.

Such a long list would probably be more of the nature of "bad PR" than "good PR".

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

SPs are being declared faster than new people are coming in to start.

 

[pomfritz]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

I wonder if there is a master list somewhere? If so I can't imagine they would give it out even on a restricted basis. It getting out would be a real eye-opener and really cause some light bulbs to go off. Even those select few who get it would really have to question WTF?

 

[anonomog]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

They've scrapped the list now, the 2 TB Word document was crashing computers all over the base, and opted for the Golden Age of Non-Supressive Listing instead.
The whole list sits neatly in 2 A4 pages double spaced.

This revolutionary, planet saving success will be explained at a mandatory event. Refreshments will be served.

 

[Operating DB]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

It's so nice to see so many of my friends on that list.

I was looking for some other friends and noticed there is no page 17 where two of my friends would be on.

Is being declared SP a worse fate than being expelled?

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

They've scrapped the list now, the 2 TB Word document was crashing computers all over the base, and opted for the Golden Age of Non-Supressive Listing instead.
The whole list sits neatly in 2 A4 pages double spaced.

This revolutionary, planet saving success will be explained at a mandatory event. Refreshments will be served.

You beat me to it.

I was going to say that it would be easier for CoS to issue a list of people who are NOT SP's.

What would be nice is if someone produced a really nice high quality magazine with a picture of the Old Saint Hill staff on the cover - with the headline:
"Old Saint Hill Staff - Where are They Now?" (or something like that)

Something that can be passed out to all CoS Scientologists, or just left around their orgs, on windshields or something.

Then on the inside it can detail what the situation is with each of those staff, 98% of whom have been Declared SP, including some who were friends of Ron.

If I was a half-way decent commercial artist I'd do it myself, and make it look like a legitimate Scn magazine so it takes them a while to realize it's not published by CoS.

 

[anonomog]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

You beat me to it.

I was going to say that it would be easier for CoS to issue a list of people who are NOT SP's.

What would be nice is if someone produced a really nice high quality magazine with a picture of the Old Saint Hill staff on the cover - with the headline:
"Old Saint Hill Staff - Where are They Now?" (or something like that)

Something that can be passed out to all CoS Scientologists, or just left around their orgs, on windshields or something.

Then on the inside it can detail what the situation is with each of those staff, 98% of whom have been Declared SP, including some who were friends of Ron.

If I was a half-way decent commercial artist I'd do it myself, and make it look like a legitimate Scn magazine so it takes them a while to realize it's not published by CoS.

Quite amazing what some people can do with the pdf version of a magazine and acrobat pro nowadays...

 

[Type4_PTS]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

Quite amazing what some people can do with the pdf version of a magazine and acrobat pro nowadays...

Maybe one day if I get some time and the help of a friend who is a great commercial artist I can make this happen.

If someone wants to beat me to it though then that is ok also.

I'd also include other stories in the magazine as well. Maybe an update on the life of Ron's Great Grandson - Jamie DeWolf.

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

If goldenrod were posted on the board outside the MAA office as it used to be?

No, would not work as it would block the entire hallway.

Seriously, there are so many declares it would just not be possible to post them - or even make an accurate list as it changes constantly.

Meanwhile, pretty easy to make a list of who finished what OT level 1 through 8and be pretty dang sure it ix very very accurate ...... that should be a clue !

 

[Mystic]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

I've been on this list in one way or another since the early '80s.

I am among some wonderful friends.

 

[Bea Kiddo]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

It's so nice to see so many of my friends on that list.

I was looking for some other friends and noticed there is no page 17 where two of my friends would be on.

Is being declared SP a worse fate than being expelled?

Expelled, as far as I know, means they will never ever be able to come back.

An SP can do the A to E steps and return. Expelled is OUT, OUT, OUT.

I believe it is the highest possible status award! Anyone expelled should be bowed down to! They earned it! LOL.

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Re: 43 page Supressive person /Group list from the Most PAranoid Church on the Plane

Expelled, as far as I know, means they will never ever be able to come back.

An SP can do the A to E steps and return. Expelled is OUT, OUT, OUT.

I believe it is the highest possible status award! Anyone expelled should be bowed down to! They earned it! LOL.

You may bow my way - LOL !

I think, in the eyes of the church, 'the door is always left open a crack'....and that either expelled oe declared one can do A to E.

That said...again, in the eyes of the church, a person expelled is just thrown out of the church while a person labelled SP is an evil person.

However, in reality, both are viewed and handled the same by the church although there is distinctly different PLs from Hubbard for each ( which OSA could not explain ).

I got expelled and then a declare thrown on top of it. Didn't matter then. Doesn't matter now - as I knew at the time I was on the road to be persona non gratus in that little group.