A Mail from OSA

[Nicole]

Last week I got a mail from the German OSA Boss, Jürg Stettler. Because I would breaking laws in Germany, I won't publish.

He linked to an OSA page, where OSA tells lies about critics and exes and asked me if I know this side.

He asked me some questions, about my Scientology past. Why he asks me? :confused2: It isn't my problem that they have always problems with their "bookkeeping" and that they don't know what exes have done in the Cult.

He also asked me if I work together with the German Secret Service.

He also wants to talk with me.

It is the same rumour that exists ca 5 years about me, what he was talking about... The same rumour they spread about Christian Markert and others.


Why does Scientology have so much problems with critics, imo "the truth needs no defense".

Nicole

 

[Lermanet_com]

"Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person's mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the "golden mean" between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. "
Page 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski

 

[Enthetan]

Last week I got a mail from the German OSA Boss, Jürg Stettler. Because I would breaking laws in Germany, I won't publish.

He linked to an OSA page, where OSA tells lies about critics and exes and asked me if I know this side.

He asked me some questions, about my Scientology past. Why he asks me? :confused2: It isn't my problem that they have always problems with their "bookkeeping" and that they don't know what exes have done in the Cult.

He also asked me if I work together with the German Secret Service.

He also wants to talk with me.

It is the same rumour that exists ca 5 years about me, what he was talking about... The same rumour they spread about Christian Markert and others.


Why does Scientology have so much problems with critics, imo "the truth needs no defense".

[
Nicole

Just ignore them.

The more you interact with them, the more they think they will be able to get something on you which will cause you to obey them.

 

[Knows]

"Reverse Blockade: emphatically insisting upon something which is the opposite of the truth blocks the average person's mind from perceiving the truth. In accordance with the dictates of healthy common sense, he starts searching for meaning in the "golden mean" between truth and its opposite, winding up with some satisfactory counterfeit. People who think like this do not realize that this effect is precisely the intent of the person who subjects them to this method. "
Page 104, Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski

In other words, Scientology is a RELIGION (where people come in to find the TRUTH and expect the TRUTH) but are subjected to a mind fuck of epic-ness w/o their knowing due to TRUSTING the leaders who are suppose to tell the TRUTH.

The LIES start with the scum (founder and leader) at the top! Hence the ole saying "Shit rolls downhill"

So the guy/gal, being fed the LIES and BELIEVES THEM (cuz who would eva suspect an SP at the top of the scam religion ) perpetuates the LIES with some "justification" that will settle in their shattered and fractured minds to make some sort of sense of the whole thing...hence the "SP's out to git em because we are saving man kind"...so attack, never defend and continue the Endless Witchhunt to find the SP's.

Does that sum it up?

 

[Knows]

Last week I got a mail from the German OSA Boss, Jürg Stettler. Because I would breaking laws in Germany, I won't publish.

He linked to an OSA page, where OSA tells lies about critics and exes and asked me if I know this side.

He asked me some questions, about my Scientology past. Why he asks me? :confused2: It isn't my problem that they have always problems with their "bookkeeping" and that they don't know what exes have done in the Cult.

He also asked me if I work together with the German Secret Service.

He also wants to talk with me.

It is the same rumour that exists ca 5 years about me, what he was talking about... The same rumour they spread about Christian Markert and others.


Why does Scientology have so much problems with critics, imo "the truth needs no defense".

Nicole

I sincerely want to know ~why you can't copy and past the letter from OSA and send it viral?

Did you sign something and agree to never showing their communications to anyone?

Are they threatening you? If so, maybe tell them you feel like they are threatening you and that is extortion and the government officials of Germany may not like to see the letter from the "religion" threatening you if you show their "threats" to the public.

Then SHOW IT!! LOL

 

[ClearedSP]

"the truth needs no defense"

But truthiness does, and Hubbard is probably the most prolific publisher of truthiness in human history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness

 

[Smurf]

Last week I got a mail from the German OSA Boss, Jürg Stettler. Because I would breaking laws in Germany, I won't publish.

Ignore him. He's baiting you.

 

[Jump]

Ignore him. He's baiting you.

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I agree. Being a scientologist, he is most probably a master baiter.

 

[FoTi]

Ignore him. He's baiting you.

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Who dat?

 

[Nicole]

I sincerely want to know ~why you can't copy and past the letter from OSA and send it viral?

It is forbidden by German law to publish private Mails (imo). http://www.rechtzweinull.de/archive...oeffentlichungen-von-E-Mails-im-Internet.html
But I am not a lawyer and not 100% sure, if it is possible to publish a Mail, where somebody threats me. Before Stettler sent me that Mail some German/Austrian OTs threats me, with telling eg, they would create a "society" against me and so on.

Did you sign something and agree to never showing their communications to anyone?

No.

Are they threatening you? If so, maybe tell them you feel like they are threatening you and that is extortion and the government officials of Germany may not like to see the letter from the "religion" threatening you if you show their "threats" to the public.

I won't answer Stettler and if other Scientologist threats me, I won't answer too. Don't know what they are doing with things I write them. They are making their truth as they want.

Then SHOW IT!! LOL

I would lovely do it. It would be some great Blog posts. Maybe a German lawfag knows better about it than me. :confused2:

 

[The_Fixer]

Ignore him. He's baiting you.

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Ay yi yi!!!! Now that is ugly.

 

[Ogsonofgroo]

I cannot see how there'd be any laws against unsolicited e-mails being spread far and wide, especially if the meta-data (ie. sender/recipient information/return e-mail) is stripped, and imho fuckery like this should be exposed and spread far and wide.
Nicole, it should only take you a minute or two to phone your local police and ask them, or consult a local public defender, or maybe Ursela C., it should be very easy to figure out and cost nothing for such info.
I would also suggest you mark such e-mails as 'spam', or even better as 'phishing scam' (then that IP will be banned/blocked all over and possibly investigated) . Rem cult motto~ 'Foot-bullets R' Us!'
My 0.02$ du-jour.
Don't let the bastards rattle yer cage hon, its what they want, intimidation is high on the cult's arsenal of buffoonery, never forget that.

Cheers!

Ogs

 

[Nicole]

I cannot see how there'd be any laws against unsolicited e-mails being spread far and wide, especially if the meta-data (ie. sender/recipient information/return e-mail) is stripped, and imho fuckery like this should be exposed and spread far and wide.


Nicole, it should only take you a minute or two to phone your local police and ask them, or consult a local public defender, or maybe Ursela C., it should be very easy to figure out and cost nothing for such info.

Done. I can publish Mails if I anonymize them. This will be a fun. Jürg Stettler wrote the Mail in the name of the Scientology "Church", so it is a commercial mail, what is much better to publish, than a private Mail.

I would also suggest you mark such e-mails as 'spam', or even better as 'phishing scam' (then that IP will be banned/blocked all over and possibly investigated) . Rem cult motto~ 'Foot-bullets R' Us!'

Ok.

My 0.02$ du-jour.
Don't let the bastards rattle yer cage hon, its what they want, intimidation is high on the cult's arsenal of buffoonery, never forget that.

Cheers!

Ogs

Thx.

 

[Ogsonofgroo]

Excellent!

 

[Nicole]

This is the text for google translate from the Mail that was sent from the Scientology Organization. At the end of this post you can see the screenshot of it.

sehr geehrte Frau Scheffler



Ihre Webseite enthält eine Beschreibung Ihres Lebens bei Scientology. Sie informieren auch über das Leben Ihres Vaters bei Scientology.


Gemäss meinen eingeholten Informationen sind aber weder Sie noch Ihr Vater bei den Scientology Kirchen in Deutschland bekannt und es bestand offenbar nie eine Mitgliedschaft.


Es macht den Eindruck, dass hier eine Aussteiger Story wie bei Herrn Makert und bei L. Bombonato gestrickt wurde, die mit der Realität nichts zu tun hat.
Sie kennen sicher auch die www.scientology-fakten.de Webseite auf der wir diese falschen Aussteiger Geschichten veröffentlicht haben.


Ich bitte Sie mitzuteilen, in welcher Kirche Sie und Ihr Vater denn Mitglied waren, oder wer innerhalb Scientology mir bestätigen könnte, dass Sie wirklich mal Mitglied waren?


Arbeiten Sie mit dem Verfassungsschutz zusammen?


Ich bin auch gerne bereit mich mal mit Ihnen zusammenzusetzen.


Bitte lassen Sie mich wissen.


mit freundlichen Grüssen


XXX

Scientology Kirche Deutschland e.V.

 

[Ogsonofgroo]

translation plox?

 

[Nicole]

Some days ago I have made a Blog post about an OT, who has sent weird Mails. He wanted to create a "society" (Verein) against me. (I am getting often Mails from Cult Scientologist, but this was harming.)

Today I republished it. I am sorry it is German. Regulary I don't publish private Mails, but I felt harmed and I believe there exists a public interest.

http://kindseininscientology.wordpress.com/2014/04/26/post-von-einem-scientologen/

 

[He-man]

translation plox?

Madam Scheffler

Google translate:

Your website includes a description of your life in Scientology. Also inform you about the life of your father in Scientology.


But according to my information gathered are neither you nor your father in the Churches of Scientology in Germany known and it apparently was never a member.


It gives the impression that there is a drop-out story was knitted as Mr. makert and L. Bombonato , which has nothing to do with reality .
You sure know the www.scientology - fakten.de website on which we have published these false stories dropouts .


I ask you to indicate in which church you and your father were you a member , or who could confirm within Scientology to me that you were really times a member?


Work together with the Protection of the Constitution ?


I am also willing me to assemble times with you.


Please let me know .


with best regards


XXX

Church of Scientology Germany e.V.

 

[hummingbird]

What a jerk!

It sounds to me, Nicole, that if you were to engage in any sort of "proof" with this individual, that would just open the door to more annoyances. This sounds like the opening salvo of a battle.

So ignore. It was fun to read tho! And I am *sure* that "fakten" website had nothing but the truth on it, richtig?

 

[He-man]

What a jerk!

It sounds to me, Nicole, that if you were to engage in any sort of "proof" with this individual, that would just open the door to more annoyances. This sounds like the opening salvo of a battle.

So ignore. It was fun to read tho! And I am *sure* that "fakten" website had nothing but the truth on it, richtig?

Ignore until a factual threat is delivered. Then go to the police.